Having been involved in thousands of hires over my career, here is the rub.
We had a guy who was convicted of a felony because he scewed an underage chick. It was 10 years ago and he has been clean since (went through counseling, etc.). Let's say a company hires him and he ends up sleeping with an employees 15 year old girl. And the employee finds out that the company hired this guy even though they knew about it. The company gets their ass sued to high heaven.
Unfortunately most companies won't touch people who have felonies related to violence, sexual misconduct or theft/dishonesty. It's too easy to get whacked for negligent hiring.
The many (people who just need a chance and likely will not be any sort of a problem) get screwed by the few (the folks who haven't changed their ways). A company has no way to know one from the other so they just ignore them all. It's a bummer, but I know why it happens.
Having been involved in thousands of hires over my career, here is the rub.
We had a guy who was convicted of a felony because he scewed an underage chick. It was 10 years ago and he has been clean since (went through counseling, etc.). Let's say a company hires him and he ends up sleeping with an employees 15 year old girl. And the employee finds out that the company hired this guy even though they knew about it. The company gets their ass sued to high heaven.
Unfortunately most companies won't touch people who have felonies related to violence, sexual misconduct or theft/dishonesty. It's too easy to get whacked for negligent hiring.
The many (people who just need a chance and likely will not be any sort of a problem) get screwed by the few (the folks who haven't changed their ways). A company has no way to know one from the other so they just ignore them all. It's a bummer, but I know why it happens.
Understood.
But there has to be a solution. You cant expect someone who cannot make a living to be anything but a total drain on the society that is rejecting them.
I dont know what the answer is, but to say there is no answer isnt acceptable either.
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Understood.
But there has to be a solution. You cant expect someone who cannot make a living to be anything but a total drain on the society that is rejecting them.
I dont know what the answer is, but to say there is no answer isnt acceptable either.
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Having been involved in thousands of hires over my career, here is the rub.
We had a guy who was convicted of a felony because he scewed an underage chick. It was 10 years ago and he has been clean since (went through counseling, etc.). Let's say a company hires him and he ends up sleeping with an employees 15 year old girl. And the employee finds out that the company hired this guy even though they knew about it. The company gets their ass sued to high heaven.
Unfortunately most companies won't touch people who have felonies related to violence, sexual misconduct or theft/dishonesty. It's too easy to get whacked for negligent hiring.
The many (people who just need a chance and likely will not be any sort of a problem) get screwed by the few (the folks who haven't changed their ways). A company has no way to know one from the other so they just ignore them all. It's a bummer, but I know why it happens.
To the original poster....learn a skilled trade and go from there....your actions in the past have you put in this situation so what can you do to prove to a potential employer looking to hire you that you have changed your ways?
Being active in the community and maybe even speaking to troubled youth would look good on a resume and would show that you are trying to right your past....simply applying for work where background checks are done is not going to get it done....I, myself, like Hutch are in the hiring business and this is the best thing I can tell people we come across like you and you status....most of the jobs that hire felons are going to be manual labor positions so the ditch digger comment is not too far off.....
People need to see the visible change in you before they will ever think about taking a chance on your past....you have to remember that you were a theif.....what person in their right mind would want to hire a known theif to come work for them knowing that you could potentially rob them? The answer is no smart business person....so think about what you can do to show others that you are past it all....
Having been involved in thousands of hires over my career, here is the rub.
We had a guy who was convicted of a felony because he scewed an underage chick. It was 10 years ago and he has been clean since (went through counseling, etc.). Let's say a company hires him and he ends up sleeping with an employees 15 year old girl. And the employee finds out that the company hired this guy even though they knew about it. The company gets their ass sued to high heaven.
Unfortunately most companies won't touch people who have felonies related to violence, sexual misconduct or theft/dishonesty. It's too easy to get whacked for negligent hiring.
The many (people who just need a chance and likely will not be any sort of a problem) get screwed by the few (the folks who haven't changed their ways). A company has no way to know one from the other so they just ignore them all. It's a bummer, but I know why it happens.
To the original poster....learn a skilled trade and go from there....your actions in the past have you put in this situation so what can you do to prove to a potential employer looking to hire you that you have changed your ways?
Being active in the community and maybe even speaking to troubled youth would look good on a resume and would show that you are trying to right your past....simply applying for work where background checks are done is not going to get it done....I, myself, like Hutch are in the hiring business and this is the best thing I can tell people we come across like you and you status....most of the jobs that hire felons are going to be manual labor positions so the ditch digger comment is not too far off.....
People need to see the visible change in you before they will ever think about taking a chance on your past....you have to remember that you were a theif.....what person in their right mind would want to hire a known theif to come work for them knowing that you could potentially rob them? The answer is no smart business person....so think about what you can do to show others that you are past it all....
To the original poster....learn a skilled trade and go from there....your actions in the past have you put in this situation so what can you do to prove to a potential employer looking to hire you that you have changed your ways?
Being active in the community and maybe even speaking to troubled youth would look good on a resume and would show that you are trying to right your past....simply applying for work where background checks are done is not going to get it done....I, myself, like Hutch are in the hiring business and this is the best thing I can tell people we come across like you and you status....most of the jobs that hire felons are going to be manual labor positions so the ditch digger comment is not too far off.....
People need to see the visible change in you before they will ever think about taking a chance on your past....you have to remember that you were a theif.....what person in their right mind would want to hire a known theif to come work for them knowing that you could potentially rob them? The answer is no smart business person....so think about what you can do to show others that you are past it all....
yea i understand that...who wants a thief?? but i have more to offer than the average person and getting rejected from places such as pizza hut and jiffy lube is just bad for morale...sometimes i feel like since im being rejected i might as well continue to commit crimes...maybe thats just immature...
To the original poster....learn a skilled trade and go from there....your actions in the past have you put in this situation so what can you do to prove to a potential employer looking to hire you that you have changed your ways?
Being active in the community and maybe even speaking to troubled youth would look good on a resume and would show that you are trying to right your past....simply applying for work where background checks are done is not going to get it done....I, myself, like Hutch are in the hiring business and this is the best thing I can tell people we come across like you and you status....most of the jobs that hire felons are going to be manual labor positions so the ditch digger comment is not too far off.....
People need to see the visible change in you before they will ever think about taking a chance on your past....you have to remember that you were a theif.....what person in their right mind would want to hire a known theif to come work for them knowing that you could potentially rob them? The answer is no smart business person....so think about what you can do to show others that you are past it all....
yea i understand that...who wants a thief?? but i have more to offer than the average person and getting rejected from places such as pizza hut and jiffy lube is just bad for morale...sometimes i feel like since im being rejected i might as well continue to commit crimes...maybe thats just immature...
yea that sounds nice...im just tenative to move far away without knowing a single person and don't have a guaranteed source of income...
yea that sounds nice...im just tenative to move far away without knowing a single person and don't have a guaranteed source of income...
Hey man, I do feel for your situation but from reading some of your posts I don't think your looking at the right places for a job. Of course Pizza Hut and Jiffy lube and other corporate places aren't going to hire you. Most of them will do a background check because they are big business corporations. They have the money to conduct checks on all applicants. A couple suggestions for you:
1. Work at a bar/restaurant. No not Applebee's or another corporation but a smaller named place. There's a ton of places around the cities that are always hiring server's, bus boys, bartender's, cooks, even dishwashers.
2. Landscaping or other construction work. A lot of the smaller businesses will pay you cash. And if you do good work you get more jobs. A lot of these companies also do snow removal in the winter. They pay $20/hr and up.
3. Work at a public golf course. You better hurry if you want this but golf courses always look for seasonal help. They will not do a background check I can guarantee it.
Good luck to you man, I'm sure if you put your mind to it and work hard at it someone will hire you. Just don't tell them in the interview that your a convicted felon. Don't give them a reason not to hire you. If they actually do a check on you the worst thing they can say is no.
Hey man, I do feel for your situation but from reading some of your posts I don't think your looking at the right places for a job. Of course Pizza Hut and Jiffy lube and other corporate places aren't going to hire you. Most of them will do a background check because they are big business corporations. They have the money to conduct checks on all applicants. A couple suggestions for you:
1. Work at a bar/restaurant. No not Applebee's or another corporation but a smaller named place. There's a ton of places around the cities that are always hiring server's, bus boys, bartender's, cooks, even dishwashers.
2. Landscaping or other construction work. A lot of the smaller businesses will pay you cash. And if you do good work you get more jobs. A lot of these companies also do snow removal in the winter. They pay $20/hr and up.
3. Work at a public golf course. You better hurry if you want this but golf courses always look for seasonal help. They will not do a background check I can guarantee it.
Good luck to you man, I'm sure if you put your mind to it and work hard at it someone will hire you. Just don't tell them in the interview that your a convicted felon. Don't give them a reason not to hire you. If they actually do a check on you the worst thing they can say is no.
Judge agreed to reduce the offense to a misdemeanor after a year assuming parole is 5 star. What's the big deal?![]()
Carry on with your life.
No...i screwed up my probation and the felony is going nowhere![]()
Judge agreed to reduce the offense to a misdemeanor after a year assuming parole is 5 star. What's the big deal?![]()
Carry on with your life.
No...i screwed up my probation and the felony is going nowhere![]()
Understood.
But there has to be a solution. You cant expect someone who cannot make a living to be anything but a total drain on the society that is rejecting them.
I dont know what the answer is, but to say there is no answer isnt acceptable either.
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Funny how this thread popped up. We just made an offer (on behalf of our client) to a guy who had a 5th degree assault conviction. The most minor conviction possible. It was 6 years ago and he explained it completely. He was with a gal who had the urge to call 911 whenever they got in a fight. He got out of the relationship and married a gal he met while scuba diving in the far east. 100% believeable story...guy was totally forthcoming. Our client said, "no thanks."
Sorry, but how is a person who makes a minor mistake like that......and who has talents that companies need.....supposed to get a job if every company takes such a short-sighted approach?
Understood.
But there has to be a solution. You cant expect someone who cannot make a living to be anything but a total drain on the society that is rejecting them.
I dont know what the answer is, but to say there is no answer isnt acceptable either.
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Funny how this thread popped up. We just made an offer (on behalf of our client) to a guy who had a 5th degree assault conviction. The most minor conviction possible. It was 6 years ago and he explained it completely. He was with a gal who had the urge to call 911 whenever they got in a fight. He got out of the relationship and married a gal he met while scuba diving in the far east. 100% believeable story...guy was totally forthcoming. Our client said, "no thanks."
Sorry, but how is a person who makes a minor mistake like that......and who has talents that companies need.....supposed to get a job if every company takes such a short-sighted approach?
Hey taco
I feel for you. Similar situation. When I was 18 years old I got pulled over by a cop and was scared and tried to get away. Fleeing, resisting arrest, wreckless endangerment.
This was in 1987. I did fine in life until about 2003. As we entered the electronic age I found myself having great interviews but then being turned down for jobs.
Today I apply for something online and once you answer "yes" to a felony or misdemeanor conviction you are cooked. People think you can "just go in and talk to the hiring manager" - what a joke that is so "1980s".
Today I work three jobs. Which sucks. None do background checks. Never been hired by a place that does a background check or knows about my one single "incident" 25 years ago.
Go with small places (the big ones all do background checks) and don't mention it at all (do not check the box either unless you know they do a background check)
I do food delivery six days a week and work at two different newspaper loading docks (one Sun-Tues the other Wed- Sat) so I am obviously employable but if you think you are getting one single job with insurance that pays enough to pay the bills I don't believe any of us in this position will find one.
Hey taco
I feel for you. Similar situation. When I was 18 years old I got pulled over by a cop and was scared and tried to get away. Fleeing, resisting arrest, wreckless endangerment.
This was in 1987. I did fine in life until about 2003. As we entered the electronic age I found myself having great interviews but then being turned down for jobs.
Today I apply for something online and once you answer "yes" to a felony or misdemeanor conviction you are cooked. People think you can "just go in and talk to the hiring manager" - what a joke that is so "1980s".
Today I work three jobs. Which sucks. None do background checks. Never been hired by a place that does a background check or knows about my one single "incident" 25 years ago.
Go with small places (the big ones all do background checks) and don't mention it at all (do not check the box either unless you know they do a background check)
I do food delivery six days a week and work at two different newspaper loading docks (one Sun-Tues the other Wed- Sat) so I am obviously employable but if you think you are getting one single job with insurance that pays enough to pay the bills I don't believe any of us in this position will find one.
Not true. I once hired a guy who had been convicted of manslaughter. He got drunk, got in an car accident, and killed a person. He served his time....and he passed his drug test.
If you are worth your salt as a hiring manager or an HR person, you evaluate each case on its own merits. I won't argue.....most will err on the side of caution. But to say that everyone just tosses anyone who has a record in the round file is wrong based on my experience.
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Not true. I once hired a guy who had been convicted of manslaughter. He got drunk, got in an car accident, and killed a person. He served his time....and he passed his drug test.
If you are worth your salt as a hiring manager or an HR person, you evaluate each case on its own merits. I won't argue.....most will err on the side of caution. But to say that everyone just tosses anyone who has a record in the round file is wrong based on my experience.
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