My friend said last night that all welfare recipients need to be drug tested.

Corruption/fraud are present in all aspects of society. That is human nature. The thought of supporting someone's drug habit via welfare is certainly troubling to say the least.

BUT. The crux of the argument is whether it is worth spending millions in an effort to save a few hundred thousand. Common sense and fiscal responsibility trumps principle. It just doesn't make financial sense to conduct this type of program.

Yes, that means that your tax dollars will support a few addicts. At least those addicts aren't running the streets committing crimes to support their habit. It is also cheaper to maintain these people on the outside, opposed to housing them in a correctional facility.  In the end, drug abuse is a health problem and the US isn't in the business of treating it as such, which is a larger problem altogether.

You need to stop wasting time with him. He is not only what you say he is, but one of the most narrow-minded sad sack here. His view is the only view

100 percent right. 

Nobody is more creative than drug users.. they can pass any drug test in a heartbeat.. they tried this is Florida and something like .04 percent failed the test.. It cost the state millions in drug testing fees,, which a politicians or his family had ownership in.. Kinda like that judge from PA who sent all the kids to juvie and it turned out he owned the tax funded place.  In the real world only the middle class and poor get drug tests. those with real influence and power in the world are free to do whatever they want

  coming from a drug addicted junkie.  wouldnt expect any other type of answer.  Let the welfare people take the money that is coming from taxpayers that is supposed to be used to feed them and their kids and let them just piss it away on drugs  excellent solution.

Gee i would have never guessed a drug user would hate drug tests.

Maybe steel when you actually become a tax payer, then you will be mad about your money being wasted away on drugs.  Oh wait, that will never happen, because you will never get a good job since you would have to take a drug test

Your comprehension skills could use some work Steel. Try to read AND understand the point being made. I know, for you, that isn't easy, but try

     I appreciate that wmi.  I'll try harder.  And thank you for looking out for me. 

     Hey guys I just had a great idea.  And I think cd and wmi will like this too.  I don't want welfare recipients being lazy, doing illicit drugs, and collecting taxpayers' money.  I also do not want them spending money on luxuries such as alcohol, tobacco, snacks, soft drinks, and such.  I also don't want them sitting on the couch watching TV.  They need to be looking for jobs.

     Here's the solution.  We build low cost housing for them.  We dictate what food they can buy.  The housing units will have small cheap computers to use to look for jobs and they'll have filters on them.  They'll be given a cot to sleep on and nothing more.  No TV, no couch, no snacks... none of the above.  They don't deserve any of it.  You get laid off and need government assistance, it's the law that you need to move to one of these units. 

     Let me know what you think guys

     That will get them motivated and pretty soon, nobody will need government funding  We'll fix everything. 

Hey wmi... you never answered that question above.  I'm waiting...

None of these people should be getting any welfare at all, and if I had ever paid income tax I'd be pissed.

Quote Originally Posted by I-Got-5-On-It:

kids leaving school today should become prison officers when they graduate
why bother becoming a teacher,nurse,firefighter etc when all the government seems to be spending money on is prisons

As sad as it is... you nailed it right on the head.