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Posted: May. 20, 2012 - 5:40 PM ET #376

Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

"9/11: Blueprint For Truth architects and engineers for 911 truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vb7o-OOe20"

Why do you constantly refer to videos as evidence, SRH? You seem like a bright dude, you have to realize the inherent propaganda that you are watching. The people making these videos have a clear predetermined conclusion and are not just "asking questions". Video is one of the easiest media avenues to manipulate.

"They’ve done simulations with actual pilots to see if what the 911 commission said was possible and it was proven that it couldn’t be done. It’s been proven without a doubt that it is impossible for a plane to attack the pentagon. There isn’t a pilot ALIVE that could strike the pentagon"

Can you please post a link to something that discusses this, preferably not a youtube video? I'd love to see the studies that they did if you have links to them.

"The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) are poising people and giving vaccines that have formaldehyde and can cause cancer. There is poison in the food and water."

You state this as if it is occurring currently, is that what you are saying? If so, again, I'd love to see what you are relying on for these conclusions.

"Seventy-five percent of the passengers had connections with the military and the Pentagon; not only on flight 77 but also on all the other flights and 16 of the passengers on flight 77 were retired navy, marines, national security, technicians, architects, national defense, military physicists, scientists, and engineers. They were able to man handle people with these credentials with box cutters and knifes"

Where is your evidence that 75% of passengers on ALL the other flights had "connections" to the military and Pentagon -- and what does that mean, "connections"?

"Al Qaeda – an intelligent organization that’s made up of cave dwellers that wear sandals but they were able to orchestrate the most sophisticated attack on the US. "

Oh SRH, this is where you are either the most wrong or just uninformed about the nature of Al-Qaeda. AQ is run and directed currently by an educated man, perhaps you have heard of him -- Ayman al-Zawahiri? He's a university educated physician. You wholly and significantly underestimate these radical jihadists and their sophistication if you merely think they are cave dwellers. That's just ignorant and uninformed. Why are they cave dwellers? Because they are from the Middle East, and all Middle Easterners are cave dwellers? Come on man

AGREE

al Qaeda

leaders able to evaluate, approve, and supervise the planning and direction of a major operation;
a personnel system that could recruit candidates, indoctrinate them, vet them, and give them the necessary training;
communications sufficient to enable planning and direction of operatives and those who would be helping them;
an intelligence effort to gather required information and form assessments of enemy strengths and weaknesses;
the ability to move people great distances; and
the ability to raise and move the money necessary to finance an attack.

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Posted: May. 20, 2012 - 6:17 PM ET #377

Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

"9/11: Blueprint For Truth architects and engineers for 911 truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vb7o-OOe20"

Why do you constantly refer to videos as evidence, SRH? You seem like a bright dude, you have to realize the inherent propaganda that you are watching. The people making these videos have a clear predetermined conclusion and are not just "asking questions". Video is one of the easiest media avenues to manipulate.

"They’ve done simulations with actual pilots to see if what the 911 commission said was possible and it was proven that it couldn’t be done. It’s been proven without a doubt that it is impossible for a plane to attack the pentagon. There isn’t a pilot ALIVE that could strike the pentagon"

Can you please post a link to something that discusses this, preferably not a youtube video? I'd love to see the studies that they did if you have links to them.

"The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) are poising people and giving vaccines that have formaldehyde and can cause cancer. There is poison in the food and water."

You state this as if it is occurring currently, is that what you are saying? If so, again, I'd love to see what you are relying on for these conclusions.

"Seventy-five percent of the passengers had connections with the military and the Pentagon; not only on flight 77 but also on all the other flights and 16 of the passengers on flight 77 were retired navy, marines, national security, technicians, architects, national defense, military physicists, scientists, and engineers. They were able to man handle people with these credentials with box cutters and knifes"

Where is your evidence that 75% of passengers on ALL the other flights had "connections" to the military and Pentagon -- and what does that mean, "connections"?

"Al Qaeda – an intelligent organization that’s made up of cave dwellers that wear sandals but they were able to orchestrate the most sophisticated attack on the US. "

Oh SRH, this is where you are either the most wrong or just uninformed about the nature of Al-Qaeda. AQ is run and directed currently by an educated man, perhaps you have heard of him -- Ayman al-Zawahiri? He's a university educated physician. You wholly and significantly underestimate these radical jihadists and their sophistication if you merely think they are cave dwellers. That's just ignorant and uninformed. Why are they cave dwellers? Because they are from the Middle East, and all Middle Easterners are cave dwellers? Come on man

Kaponofor3,

Pilots For 9/11 Truth Co-Founder Rob Balsamo along with Core Members Captain Rusty Aimer and Dwain Deets were recently invited by Gov. Jesse Ventura to discuss and attempt to recreate the attack on the Pentagon for the latest investigation into the events of September 11, 2001. Unlike outdated simulator recreations offered by others, this attempt is based on the actual data being provided through the Freedom of Information Act.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNMakBEECqA&feature=player_embedded

https://www.physics911.net/omholt

https://pilotsfor911truth.org/

https://pilotsfor911truth.org/pentagon.html

https://pilotsfor911truth.org/american_77_hijack_impossible.html

https://www.voltairenet.org/Surprising-number-of-passengers-on
https://www.infowars.com/poison-tap-water/

https://www.naturalnews.com/008511.html

https://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Articles/Vaccine_Genocide.html

I just don’t take Al-Qaeda seriously. Zawahiri might have a degree but the members of Al-Qaeda are a bunch of skinny weak malnourished UN-educated losers that can’t read, write, and don’t even know how to shoot a gun with proper form in dirty sheets, wearing sandals, and going cave to cave. Everything we are told about them is government bullshit.

There isn't a single picture or video of a plane striking the pentagon. Yet I'm supposed to believe it without question because my government says so? I’ve seen nothing but documentaries. I’m not going to go through every single site looking for stuff that the documentaries I watched used. I'm just saying ask questions and I will keep on asking.

My point was that just because the government says it doesn’t mean that that’s what happened. I used the "9/11: Blueprint For Truth architects and engineers for 911 truth” video to prove that there are experienced and well educated architects and engineers that dispute the findings by the 911 commission and National Institute of Standards and Technology. It can’t be called a fact if it can be disputed. That was the point I was trying to make.

I don’t want the government presenting theories, I want facts!

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Posted: May. 21, 2012 - 12:06 AM ET #378

"I just don’t take Al-Qaeda seriously"

August 1998: A van packed with explosives blows up outside the US embassy in Nairobi, Kenya, killing 219 people, and it is followed minutes later by an explosion at the sister embassy in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, causing a further 12 deaths. About 5,000 people are injured in the two blasts.

October 2000: Seventeen American sailors die and 39 are injured when suicide bombers steer a boat packed with explosives into the USS Cole in Yemen, blowing a 40sq ft hole in the ship’s hull. Al-Qaeda later claims responsibility.

September 2001: Four aeroplanes are hijacked by men believed to be working for al-Qaeda. Two are flown into the World Trade Center in New York and one hits the Pentagon in Washington, while the fourth is brought down in a field in Pennsylvania. 3,000 people are killed in the attacks, the worst ever on American soil.

December 2001: Richard Reid, later dubbed the “shoe bomber”, is restrained by fellow passengers as he tries to ignite explosives concealed in his shoes while on board a flight from Paris to Miami. In court the Briton declares his loyalty to Bin Laden. He is jailed for life.

October 2002: Two bombs explode in a busy nightclub area on the Indonesian island of Bali, killing 202 people, including 28 Britons. The south east Asian terror group Jemaah Islamiyah, which has been linked to al-Qaeda, was blamed for the attacks.

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Posted: May. 21, 2012 - 12:07 AM ET #379

"I just don’t take Al-Qaeda seriously"

March 2004: A series of bombs is detonated on four commuter trains in Madrid, killing more than 200 people and wounding 1,500. It is claimed that the attacks were carried out by a terrorist cell inspired by al-Qaeda.

March 2004: Police make a wave of arrests in Operation Crevice, amid reports that Pakistani terrorists are operating in southern England. Five men are later found guilty of plotting to blow up the Bluewater shopping centre and Ministry of Sound nightclub with fertiliser bombs.

August 2004: Dhiren Barot, a British Muslim, is arrested and accused of plotting a series of coordinated terrorist attacks in this country and abroad, including one which was to involve a radioactive “dirty bomb”. He becomes the first Muslim accused of plotting explosions in this country to plead guilty.

July 2005: Bombs on three underground trains and a double decker bus in London on July 7 claim 52 lives, injuring 700 more. Weeks later on July 21, a similar plot is foiled when explosives in rucksacks carried onto underground trains and buses by four men fail to detonate.

August 2006: British police make a series of arrests to prevent the planned bombing of at least seven trans-Atlantic airliners destined for cities across the US and Canada. Eight men are given life sentences.

August 2007: Al Qaida are linked to the deaths of 400 Yazidis - an ancient muslim sect regarded as infidels by extremists - killed in bombings in the Sinjar area of Iraq.

March 2009: Police arrest an al-Qaeda cell of Pakistani students in Manchester who were plotting a bomb attack on shoppers in Manchester. It later emerged the plan was part of a wider series of coordinated attacks in New York and Scandinavia.

October 2009: At least 155 victims die when al Qaida carries out a double suicide bombing in Baghdad. Two months later the group is linked to a series of car bombs in the centre of Baghdad which kill at least 127 people.

December 2009: Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, 23, a Nigerian graduate, tries to blow up an aeroplane. Wearing explosives in his underwear he sets himself alight in a packed Airbus approaching Detroit, in an attack orchestrated by al Qaeda in Yemen.