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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2013 - 4:52 PM ET #1

    Good evening folks,

    I've been a long time reader of this page and not really an active participant but I'm a huge boxing guy. I lost the password to my old account but I really want to make this place live again. Ignore this jersey jerk off and let's bring back what made this place so special. So without further ado, let's get to tonights picks. 

    Judah-Malignaggi (Zab -160)
    I think that Malignaggi's potshots won't be enough to deter or steal enough rounds from Judah. I feel like Paulie struggles with a certain kind of fighter and Zab fits into that category. Sure, Judah is on the back end of his career but I still think he has enough explosiveness left and enough stamina to take a close but clear decision victory.

    Kirkland-Tapia (Kirkland -105)
    I'll be honest, I am not too familiar with Tapia. I watched a couple of videos on youtube to really create an opinion on him but I just feel that Kirkland is the crisper fighter if that chin can hold up. In this one I am going with Kirkland by late stoppage

    Sturm-Barker (Barker -125)
    I had Geale in his fight against Barker, and I was really impressed by Darren. I was especially impressed with how he got up after that tough body shot. I think this is it for Sturm. Unless he gets another gift decision from the German judges (always a possibility) I think Barker takes a clear unanimous decision. 

    I don't really have an opinion on Lara-Trout as I think they are very similar fighters. If anything, I think Lara has the power edge. 

    Please come back with any input. Thanks a lot guys and hopefully we can bring this page back to where it belongs.

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Good evening folks,

    I've been a long time reader of this page and not really an active participant but I'm a huge boxing guy. I lost the password to my old account but I really want to make this place live again. Ignore this jersey jerk off and let's bring back what made this place so special. So without further ado, let's get to tonights picks. 

    Judah-Malignaggi (Zab -160)
    I think that Malignaggi's potshots won't be enough to deter or steal enough rounds from Judah. I feel like Paulie struggles with a certain kind of fighter and Zab fits into that category. Sure, Judah is on the back end of his career but I still think he has enough explosiveness left and enough stamina to take a close but clear decision victory.

    Kirkland-Tapia (Kirkland -105)
    I'll be honest, I am not too familiar with Tapia. I watched a couple of videos on youtube to really create an opinion on him but I just feel that Kirkland is the crisper fighter if that chin can hold up. In this one I am going with Kirkland by late stoppage

    Sturm-Barker (Barker -125)
    I had Geale in his fight against Barker, and I was really impressed by Darren. I was especially impressed with how he got up after that tough body shot. I think this is it for Sturm. Unless he gets another gift decision from the German judges (always a possibility) I think Barker takes a clear unanimous decision. 

    I don't really have an opinion on Lara-Trout as I think they are very similar fighters. If anything, I think Lara has the power edge. 

    Please come back with any input. Thanks a lot guys and hopefully we can bring this page back to where it belongs.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2013 - 5:37 PM ET #2

    Well I am off to a great start on this fine evening. Barker exposed and KO'd in 2. (0-1 -125)
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    Well I am off to a great start on this fine evening. Barker exposed and KO'd in 2. (0-1 -125)
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2013 - 5:37 PM ET #3

    Darren Barker just got crumpled.  Cuffed on the ear and his equilibrium was toast.
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    Darren Barker just got crumpled.  Cuffed on the ear and his equilibrium was toast.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2013 - 5:44 PM ET #4

    I think he was saying his ankle was injured after that second knockdown. Regardless, clearly outclassed and pushed back into irrelevance. 
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    I think he was saying his ankle was injured after that second knockdown. Regardless, clearly outclassed and pushed back into irrelevance. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2013 - 7:52 PM ET #5

    LetsGetItOn, They need to get rid of that nitwit on this forum. Personally, I look for Lara to win tonight and I really like the Paulie- Zab fight inside the distance at 4- 1 odds. Devon should shine tonight and finally ITD on Tapia- Kirkland. What a great night of boxing, lets just hope the fighters decide the results and not these friggin judges.

    GL everyone, except the asswipe from Jersey

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    LetsGetItOn, They need to get rid of that nitwit on this forum. Personally, I look for Lara to win tonight and I really like the Paulie- Zab fight inside the distance at 4- 1 odds. Devon should shine tonight and finally ITD on Tapia- Kirkland. What a great night of boxing, lets just hope the fighters decide the results and not these friggin judges.

    GL everyone, except the asswipe from Jersey

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2013 - 8:06 PM ET #6

    Agreed LRM. The guy is a cancer but there are trolls on every one of these forums. He's more pronounced I guess because boxing prizefights are more infrequent. I'll be shocked if the Judah-Malignaggi fight, barring an accidental headbutt or something like that, ends in anything other than a decision. Regardless, best of luck on your plays. 
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    Agreed LRM. The guy is a cancer but there are trolls on every one of these forums. He's more pronounced I guess because boxing prizefights are more infrequent. I'll be shocked if the Judah-Malignaggi fight, barring an accidental headbutt or something like that, ends in anything other than a decision. Regardless, best of luck on your plays. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2013 - 11:15 PM ET #7

    It's a shame that kid had to take that last round in the Kirkland fight. Shame on his corner for putting him out there like a sitting duck.
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    It's a shame that kid had to take that last round in the Kirkland fight. Shame on his corner for putting him out there like a sitting duck.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2013 - 11:51 PM ET #8

    I really Like Paulie tonight..My 2 cents..Look for some drama with the scorecard also!~!
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    I really Like Paulie tonight..My 2 cents..Look for some drama with the scorecard also!~!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2013 - 12:07 AM ET #9

    I know Zab fights in spurts but I expected him to be a bit more aggressive without having to fear Malignaggi's power. Judah looks like he just doesn't care.
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    I know Zab fights in spurts but I expected him to be a bit more aggressive without having to fear Malignaggi's power. Judah looks like he just doesn't care.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2013 - 12:42 AM ET #10

    Pay day for Judah
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    Pay day for Judah
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2013 - 1:31 AM ET #11

    Congratulations on your Malignaggi bets and the distance pick. I can't understand why Judah didn't absorb a little to get his shots in. All in all Dirrell was the only bout I thought the judges got wrong. I'm just glad this thread was free of the nonsense.
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    Congratulations on your Malignaggi bets and the distance pick. I can't understand why Judah didn't absorb a little to get his shots in. All in all Dirrell was the only bout I thought the judges got wrong. I'm just glad this thread was free of the nonsense.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2013 - 6:23 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by LetsGetItOn:

    It's a shame that kid had to take that last round in the Kirkland fight. Shame on his corner for putting him out there like a sitting duck.

    he should have been saved from himself by his corner. he couldn't get Kirkland out of there when he was fresh. smoger knew he was done a couple rounds earlier. he took way to much punishment. to bad it wasn't the boxing forum jerseyboy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LetsGetItOn:

    It's a shame that kid had to take that last round in the Kirkland fight. Shame on his corner for putting him out there like a sitting duck.

    he should have been saved from himself by his corner. he couldn't get Kirkland out of there when he was fresh. smoger knew he was done a couple rounds earlier. he took way to much punishment. to bad it wasn't the boxing forum jerseyboy.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2013 - 8:41 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    I can't understand why Judah didn't absorb a little to get his shots in. 

     

    Judah has always been A+ level in physical attributes, but often against weak opposition, he performed on their level (or just a little less than them causing such losses). Alexander reminds me of Judah although he doesn't have the same superior athleticism, but the same lack of mental smarts, awareness and toughness. The only bet I made very well on Judah was his rematch against Cory Spinks. RJJ made a well known but very accurate comment about boxers fighting in their hometown. He stated when they are even money or highly favored, they try to do to much to impress hometown fans and often lose sight of the goal, winning. When they are considered decent underdogs it plays to their advantage (via Shawn Porter and nice post by LarryParker; I stated Devon's mental weakness in strategy and toughness could play a part if Porter showed he can compete in top level opposition).

    When Cory Spinks won the first bout against Judah in Las Vegas, his rematch was in his hometown. The opening odds were Judah -160 and over 11.5 -250. Spinks being way over-rated, and now in his home town and the champion, I found online odds of Judah from -110 to +120 when Pinnacle and other sportsbooks were at their peak before a late 2006 shutdown of US bettors. I found props of Judah to win within the distance, included a DQ, etc, all but a NC, which I'd lose. Judah was +375 to win ITD which a small prop bet (15% of my straight wager) made it a little more exciting, but I didn't think it was a high +EV play at all. Judah at even money still scared me with his lack of mental focus, but I felt he had less mental pressure and Spinks now had all the mental pressure, and I was hoping a regression to the means would pay off, and it did, of all the fighters with him! LOL

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    I can't understand why Judah didn't absorb a little to get his shots in. 

     

    Judah has always been A+ level in physical attributes, but often against weak opposition, he performed on their level (or just a little less than them causing such losses). Alexander reminds me of Judah although he doesn't have the same superior athleticism, but the same lack of mental smarts, awareness and toughness. The only bet I made very well on Judah was his rematch against Cory Spinks. RJJ made a well known but very accurate comment about boxers fighting in their hometown. He stated when they are even money or highly favored, they try to do to much to impress hometown fans and often lose sight of the goal, winning. When they are considered decent underdogs it plays to their advantage (via Shawn Porter and nice post by LarryParker; I stated Devon's mental weakness in strategy and toughness could play a part if Porter showed he can compete in top level opposition).

    When Cory Spinks won the first bout against Judah in Las Vegas, his rematch was in his hometown. The opening odds were Judah -160 and over 11.5 -250. Spinks being way over-rated, and now in his home town and the champion, I found online odds of Judah from -110 to +120 when Pinnacle and other sportsbooks were at their peak before a late 2006 shutdown of US bettors. I found props of Judah to win within the distance, included a DQ, etc, all but a NC, which I'd lose. Judah was +375 to win ITD which a small prop bet (15% of my straight wager) made it a little more exciting, but I didn't think it was a high +EV play at all. Judah at even money still scared me with his lack of mental focus, but I felt he had less mental pressure and Spinks now had all the mental pressure, and I was hoping a regression to the means would pay off, and it did, of all the fighters with him! LOL

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2013 - 11:36 PM ET #14

    Fixzer, your response didn't have anything to do with what I posted. But it was great to hear about your good fortune. WTF
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    Fixzer, your response didn't have anything to do with what I posted. But it was great to hear about your good fortune. WTF
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2013 - 1:34 AM ET #15

    Judah despite previously great physical attributes, he performs below par. He has never adjusted, nor will he this point in his career. You asked why he didn't take a few light shots to get in, I believe he fights one way and if it doesn't go his way he won't chance anything.

    Judah won't absorb a little as he never has if he had the option, therefore making a fighter with great physical attributes an under-achiever. He seems to let fighters much weaker than him dictate the fight. Sorry if it didn't fit your question you were looking for, or statement! Judah let me down enough twice, that I took one shot on him against the rematch with Spinks and stayed away from him unless betting against him. Devon Alexander lets fighters dictate the tempo also despite some good physical attributes. Judah doesn't adjust his game plan pre-fight, he lacks the ability to change during the fight (not very many fighters can do this well enough to change a fight).Malignaggi lacks in the physical attributes but he makes up for it being strategic and tough minded, and is also a good ring technician. What he lacks in physical attributes, he compensates much more with his mentality. 

    I remember Evander when he moved up to Heavyweight stating, boxing is 90% mental, in regards to training, preparation, using any means (especially elbows and headbutts) to win the fight. Hopkins is nearing age 50, exposed undefeated Cloud as a typical fighter unable to fight while moving. He did the same to Pavlik and so many others. On athletes using weed... I think that would hurt them "Michigan Commission changes the result from a TKO after 2 for Tyson to an NC, due to Tyson testing positive for marijuana after the fight.") I would love my opponents to be smoking herb during training and during the fight.

    Zab lacks mental awareness, focus, ring smarts, etc... nearly every category in mental abilities, takes the great physical abilities (or what he was in his prime) and diminishes them as if he didn't possess them.

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    Judah despite previously great physical attributes, he performs below par. He has never adjusted, nor will he this point in his career. You asked why he didn't take a few light shots to get in, I believe he fights one way and if it doesn't go his way he won't chance anything.

    Judah won't absorb a little as he never has if he had the option, therefore making a fighter with great physical attributes an under-achiever. He seems to let fighters much weaker than him dictate the fight. Sorry if it didn't fit your question you were looking for, or statement! Judah let me down enough twice, that I took one shot on him against the rematch with Spinks and stayed away from him unless betting against him. Devon Alexander lets fighters dictate the tempo also despite some good physical attributes. Judah doesn't adjust his game plan pre-fight, he lacks the ability to change during the fight (not very many fighters can do this well enough to change a fight).Malignaggi lacks in the physical attributes but he makes up for it being strategic and tough minded, and is also a good ring technician. What he lacks in physical attributes, he compensates much more with his mentality. 

    I remember Evander when he moved up to Heavyweight stating, boxing is 90% mental, in regards to training, preparation, using any means (especially elbows and headbutts) to win the fight. Hopkins is nearing age 50, exposed undefeated Cloud as a typical fighter unable to fight while moving. He did the same to Pavlik and so many others. On athletes using weed... I think that would hurt them "Michigan Commission changes the result from a TKO after 2 for Tyson to an NC, due to Tyson testing positive for marijuana after the fight.") I would love my opponents to be smoking herb during training and during the fight.

    Zab lacks mental awareness, focus, ring smarts, etc... nearly every category in mental abilities, takes the great physical abilities (or what he was in his prime) and diminishes them as if he didn't possess them.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2013 - 3:34 PM ET #16

    ZOUK is at it again
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    ZOUK is at it again
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

    ZOUK is at it again

     

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