I think the criticism is unfair Sentinel just keep plugging along hey you made it this far and still grinding for a long time I don't understand all the gripe. Not like your putting a gun to these guys head to bet this play. Were all trying to win not compete against each other.
Nothing wrong with criticism. But they simply dont get how I opperate. Ive been in a hole as late as june in a season. Then once im at 1200--1300 UNITS watch how quickly things move up. They will only understand once im at my target in November. Thats why I keep saying all this premature criticism is pointless. Ive started a season and dropped as low as 780 UNITS from a 1000 UNIT start and still prevailed over those 1700 plus bets. The last 3 to 4 hundred are where the real growth takes place. They simply have to sit back and watch it happen. I dont need to say another word. And neither do they. Just watch. Then wade in with the judgment on November 30th.
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Quote Originally Posted by Choosenone21:
I think the criticism is unfair Sentinel just keep plugging along hey you made it this far and still grinding for a long time I don't understand all the gripe. Not like your putting a gun to these guys head to bet this play. Were all trying to win not compete against each other.
Nothing wrong with criticism. But they simply dont get how I opperate. Ive been in a hole as late as june in a season. Then once im at 1200--1300 UNITS watch how quickly things move up. They will only understand once im at my target in November. Thats why I keep saying all this premature criticism is pointless. Ive started a season and dropped as low as 780 UNITS from a 1000 UNIT start and still prevailed over those 1700 plus bets. The last 3 to 4 hundred are where the real growth takes place. They simply have to sit back and watch it happen. I dont need to say another word. And neither do they. Just watch. Then wade in with the judgment on November 30th.
To quote you, you might lose 5 but NEVER 6, right?So if you did lose 5 by your logic the next play would be a guaranteed winner so you and I should go all in right? Or am I missing something?I will in fact go all in on the bet that any response will be rambling illogical and irrelevant and won't answer the simple question!
You sound like his ex girlfriend, just being a dumb f luck. Are you really that stupid
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Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:
To quote you, you might lose 5 but NEVER 6, right?So if you did lose 5 by your logic the next play would be a guaranteed winner so you and I should go all in right? Or am I missing something?I will in fact go all in on the bet that any response will be rambling illogical and irrelevant and won't answer the simple question!
You sound like his ex girlfriend, just being a dumb f luck. Are you really that stupid
To quote you, you might lose 5 but NEVER 6, right?So if you did lose 5 by your logic the next play would be a guaranteed winner so you and I should go all in right? Or am I missing something?I will in fact go all in on the bet that any response will be rambling illogical and irrelevant and won't answer the simple question!
No ive lost more than 5 twice in 11,600 bets. If I ever lost 5 straight I would suvk up the loss and continue. The point youre missing is HOW MANY TIMES I lose 3 but not 4 or 5. Thats the secret of my longterm success. Already ive had SEVEN losing streaks of THREE this year that havent converted to FOUR. If you were super patient and just waited for those tripple streaks before you start betting. You have the bookmakers slaughtered. But no even im that patient. We all want more action. But to give you some idea how consistent this is. Over the last 100 times I have had a losing streak of 3. Only 6 of them have converted to 4 or more. Thats a hit rate of 94%. But CAN YOU WAIT FOR THEM. Thats the million dollar ??????
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Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:
To quote you, you might lose 5 but NEVER 6, right?So if you did lose 5 by your logic the next play would be a guaranteed winner so you and I should go all in right? Or am I missing something?I will in fact go all in on the bet that any response will be rambling illogical and irrelevant and won't answer the simple question!
No ive lost more than 5 twice in 11,600 bets. If I ever lost 5 straight I would suvk up the loss and continue. The point youre missing is HOW MANY TIMES I lose 3 but not 4 or 5. Thats the secret of my longterm success. Already ive had SEVEN losing streaks of THREE this year that havent converted to FOUR. If you were super patient and just waited for those tripple streaks before you start betting. You have the bookmakers slaughtered. But no even im that patient. We all want more action. But to give you some idea how consistent this is. Over the last 100 times I have had a losing streak of 3. Only 6 of them have converted to 4 or more. Thats a hit rate of 94%. But CAN YOU WAIT FOR THEM. Thats the million dollar ??????
The problem is this system is not mathematically practical. In order to utilize a system like this you would need a sizable bankroll at multiple shops. Good luck getting major action on ITF challenger events at one book...especially if you are a winning bettor. With bitcoin it's easier to move money between books but it still requires time and organization.
Also, $25 a unit and a $25,000 bankroll is about the highest you could go without having serious limit issues on chases. If $100 was used you would see major issues if 5 or 6 were lost in a row. I suspect the book would catch on fast to the strategy and the next time you lost 5 or 6 in a row they would cut your limits down to nothing.
Also reading the conversation the OP clearly doesn't understand math. Math doesn't have a memory... you could possibly lose 20 in a row. If you want the odds at 1.50 just go 3x3x3 and multiply another 3 for each in a row to get the actual odds. Certainly the odds of losing 6-7 or more in a row are slim. But it can and will happen most likely at some point. Also each time a win occurs the OP is only recovering half of that wagered. Meaning:
If they lose 3-6-12-24 units and then win the 48 unit chase they are only recovering the units lost on the previous wager and would still be down 21 units on that streak. This is why the OP is even or a little down despite large win streaks.
Can this system be utilized and be profitable? yes
Can the average Covers poster use this system? no
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The problem is this system is not mathematically practical. In order to utilize a system like this you would need a sizable bankroll at multiple shops. Good luck getting major action on ITF challenger events at one book...especially if you are a winning bettor. With bitcoin it's easier to move money between books but it still requires time and organization.
Also, $25 a unit and a $25,000 bankroll is about the highest you could go without having serious limit issues on chases. If $100 was used you would see major issues if 5 or 6 were lost in a row. I suspect the book would catch on fast to the strategy and the next time you lost 5 or 6 in a row they would cut your limits down to nothing.
Also reading the conversation the OP clearly doesn't understand math. Math doesn't have a memory... you could possibly lose 20 in a row. If you want the odds at 1.50 just go 3x3x3 and multiply another 3 for each in a row to get the actual odds. Certainly the odds of losing 6-7 or more in a row are slim. But it can and will happen most likely at some point. Also each time a win occurs the OP is only recovering half of that wagered. Meaning:
If they lose 3-6-12-24 units and then win the 48 unit chase they are only recovering the units lost on the previous wager and would still be down 21 units on that streak. This is why the OP is even or a little down despite large win streaks.
Can this system be utilized and be profitable? yes
The problem is this system is not mathematically practical. In order to utilize a system like this you would need a sizable bankroll at multiple shops. Good luck getting major action on ITF challenger events at one book...especially if you are a winning bettor. With bitcoin it's easier to move money between books but it still requires time and organization.Also, $25 a unit and a $25,000 bankroll is about the highest you could go without having serious limit issues on chases. If $100 was used you would see major issues if 5 or 6 were lost in a row. I suspect the book would catch on fast to the strategy and the next time you lost 5 or 6 in a row they would cut your limits down to nothing.Also reading the conversation the OP clearly doesn't understand math. Math doesn't have a memory... you could possibly lose 20 in a row. If you want the odds at 1.50 just go 3x3x3 and multiply another 3 for each in a row to get the actual odds. Certainly the odds of losing 6-7 or more in a row are slim. But it can and will happen most likely at some point. Also each time a win occurs the OP is only recovering half of that wagered. Meaning:If they lose 3-6-12-24 units and then win the 48 unit chase they are only recovering the units lost on the previous wager and would still be down 21 units on that streak. This is why the OP is even or a little down despite large win streaks.Can this system be utilized and be profitable? yesCan the average Covers poster use this system? no
You make some good points. But there are several ways to approach things. As I said before you could simply wait until Ive lost two or three in a row and then proceed. And you will be assured of success. The problem that even I have sparty44 IS THE WAITING. Lets say I were to only post up a pick after I had recorded two losses. They the strikerate would be fantastic. The the wait for the picks would sometimes be 3 or 4 days.
Thats the trade off. Who on here can wait up to 4 days to virtually gaurantee they win in a maximum of two bets 90% of the time? Very few. And thats the PROBLEM...
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Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:
The problem is this system is not mathematically practical. In order to utilize a system like this you would need a sizable bankroll at multiple shops. Good luck getting major action on ITF challenger events at one book...especially if you are a winning bettor. With bitcoin it's easier to move money between books but it still requires time and organization.Also, $25 a unit and a $25,000 bankroll is about the highest you could go without having serious limit issues on chases. If $100 was used you would see major issues if 5 or 6 were lost in a row. I suspect the book would catch on fast to the strategy and the next time you lost 5 or 6 in a row they would cut your limits down to nothing.Also reading the conversation the OP clearly doesn't understand math. Math doesn't have a memory... you could possibly lose 20 in a row. If you want the odds at 1.50 just go 3x3x3 and multiply another 3 for each in a row to get the actual odds. Certainly the odds of losing 6-7 or more in a row are slim. But it can and will happen most likely at some point. Also each time a win occurs the OP is only recovering half of that wagered. Meaning:If they lose 3-6-12-24 units and then win the 48 unit chase they are only recovering the units lost on the previous wager and would still be down 21 units on that streak. This is why the OP is even or a little down despite large win streaks.Can this system be utilized and be profitable? yesCan the average Covers poster use this system? no
You make some good points. But there are several ways to approach things. As I said before you could simply wait until Ive lost two or three in a row and then proceed. And you will be assured of success. The problem that even I have sparty44 IS THE WAITING. Lets say I were to only post up a pick after I had recorded two losses. They the strikerate would be fantastic. The the wait for the picks would sometimes be 3 or 4 days.
Thats the trade off. Who on here can wait up to 4 days to virtually gaurantee they win in a maximum of two bets 90% of the time? Very few. And thats the PROBLEM...
You make some good points. But there are several ways to approach things. As I said before you could simply wait until Ive lost two or three in a row and then proceed. And you will be assured of success. The problem that even I have sparty44 IS THE WAITING. Lets say I were to only post up a pick after I had recorded two losses. They the strikerate would be fantastic. The the wait for the picks would sometimes be 3 or 4 days.
Thats the trade off. Who on here can wait up to 4 days to virtually gaurantee they win in a maximum of two bets 90% of the time? Very few. And thats the PROBLEM...
Not how stats work dude.
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Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel3:
You make some good points. But there are several ways to approach things. As I said before you could simply wait until Ive lost two or three in a row and then proceed. And you will be assured of success. The problem that even I have sparty44 IS THE WAITING. Lets say I were to only post up a pick after I had recorded two losses. They the strikerate would be fantastic. The the wait for the picks would sometimes be 3 or 4 days.
Thats the trade off. Who on here can wait up to 4 days to virtually gaurantee they win in a maximum of two bets 90% of the time? Very few. And thats the PROBLEM...
You're still not understanding math again. No matter how many wagers people wait, the odds based on your lines are going to be 66% wins per wager. The odds don't change just because you have lost 2-3 or whatever in a row. Your logic is some of the worst betting logic. The same logic losing bettors use with roulette ... "look Mike red has come up 10 times in a row, no way it can lose again"....and then it loses 5 more times in a row.
How much is a unit for you?
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You're still not understanding math again. No matter how many wagers people wait, the odds based on your lines are going to be 66% wins per wager. The odds don't change just because you have lost 2-3 or whatever in a row. Your logic is some of the worst betting logic. The same logic losing bettors use with roulette ... "look Mike red has come up 10 times in a row, no way it can lose again"....and then it loses 5 more times in a row.
You're still not understanding math again. No matter how many wagers people wait, the odds based on your lines are going to be 66% wins per wager. The odds don't change just because you have lost 2-3 or whatever in a row. Your logic is some of the worst betting logic. The same logic losing bettors use with roulette ... "look Mike red has come up 10 times in a row, no way it can lose again"....and then it loses 5 more times in a row.
How much is a unit for you?
You fail to understand, you cannot compare sports betting to a game of chance like roulette. The facts are simple. Over the span of 11,605 bets I have to date. There have been 360 losing streaks of 3 or more. Here's the breakdown.
Losing streaks of 3=331
Losing streaks of 4=23
Losing streaks of 5=4
Losing streaks of 6=1
Losing streaks of 7=1
That's a STRIKERATE of 92% for losing streaks of 3. That's what waits for the man or woman with SUPREME PATIENCE. Only 360 bets in 8 years. But you would have won 92% of them. So don't talk to me about math. Master THE LOSING STREAK. And you will ALWAYS win in the LONGTERM...
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Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:
You're still not understanding math again. No matter how many wagers people wait, the odds based on your lines are going to be 66% wins per wager. The odds don't change just because you have lost 2-3 or whatever in a row. Your logic is some of the worst betting logic. The same logic losing bettors use with roulette ... "look Mike red has come up 10 times in a row, no way it can lose again"....and then it loses 5 more times in a row.
How much is a unit for you?
You fail to understand, you cannot compare sports betting to a game of chance like roulette. The facts are simple. Over the span of 11,605 bets I have to date. There have been 360 losing streaks of 3 or more. Here's the breakdown.
Losing streaks of 3=331
Losing streaks of 4=23
Losing streaks of 5=4
Losing streaks of 6=1
Losing streaks of 7=1
That's a STRIKERATE of 92% for losing streaks of 3. That's what waits for the man or woman with SUPREME PATIENCE. Only 360 bets in 8 years. But you would have won 92% of them. So don't talk to me about math. Master THE LOSING STREAK. And you will ALWAYS win in the LONGTERM...
Spare us quoting stats that have no validity. Only stats that have validity are that which are posted here.Nobody with a reasonable brain thinks you are actually betting this.How much is a unit for you?
Theyll have validity with the passage of time. 10 pounds is a unit. There are always people like you who think you know how its going to turn out. When we arrive at NOVEMBER 30TH. Will you be ready to concede you dont?
I will not waste another post bickering with any negative people on here. From now to November 30th. The power and the validity of mastering the losing streak will be illustrated. And thats my final word on the matter. The numbers will now prove my point...
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Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:
Spare us quoting stats that have no validity. Only stats that have validity are that which are posted here.Nobody with a reasonable brain thinks you are actually betting this.How much is a unit for you?
Theyll have validity with the passage of time. 10 pounds is a unit. There are always people like you who think you know how its going to turn out. When we arrive at NOVEMBER 30TH. Will you be ready to concede you dont?
I will not waste another post bickering with any negative people on here. From now to November 30th. The power and the validity of mastering the losing streak will be illustrated. And thats my final word on the matter. The numbers will now prove my point...
You're still not understanding math again. No matter how many wagers people wait, the odds based on your lines are going to be 66% wins per wager. The odds don't change just because you have lost 2-3 or whatever in a row. Your logic is some of the worst betting logic. The same logic losing bettors use with roulette ... "look Mike red has come up 10 times in a row, no way it can lose again"....and then it loses 5 more times in a row.How much is a unit for you?
You fail to understand, you cannot compare sports betting to a game of chance like roulette. The facts are simple. Over the span of 11,605 bets I have to date. There have been 360 losing streaks of 3 or more. Here's the breakdown.Losing streaks of 3=331Losing streaks of 4=23Losing streaks of 5=4Losing streaks of 6=1Losing streaks of 7=1That's a STRIKERATE of 92% for losing streaks of 3. That's what waits for the man or woman with SUPREME PATIENCE. Only 360 bets in 8 years. But you would have won 92% of them. So don't talk to me about math. Master THE LOSING STREAK. And you will ALWAYS win in the LONGTERM...
You said a couple pages back that you NEVER lose six in a row. The above contradicts this
Prove to us that you understand your system that you laud. Why is your strike rate 92% on a three game losing streak? What do you do differently?
You don't know do you?
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Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel3:
Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:
You're still not understanding math again. No matter how many wagers people wait, the odds based on your lines are going to be 66% wins per wager. The odds don't change just because you have lost 2-3 or whatever in a row. Your logic is some of the worst betting logic. The same logic losing bettors use with roulette ... "look Mike red has come up 10 times in a row, no way it can lose again"....and then it loses 5 more times in a row.How much is a unit for you?
You fail to understand, you cannot compare sports betting to a game of chance like roulette. The facts are simple. Over the span of 11,605 bets I have to date. There have been 360 losing streaks of 3 or more. Here's the breakdown.Losing streaks of 3=331Losing streaks of 4=23Losing streaks of 5=4Losing streaks of 6=1Losing streaks of 7=1That's a STRIKERATE of 92% for losing streaks of 3. That's what waits for the man or woman with SUPREME PATIENCE. Only 360 bets in 8 years. But you would have won 92% of them. So don't talk to me about math. Master THE LOSING STREAK. And you will ALWAYS win in the LONGTERM...
You said a couple pages back that you NEVER lose six in a row. The above contradicts this
Prove to us that you understand your system that you laud. Why is your strike rate 92% on a three game losing streak? What do you do differently?
You're still not understanding math again. No matter how many wagers people wait, the odds based on your lines are going to be 66% wins per wager. The odds don't change just because you have lost 2-3 or whatever in a row. Your logic is some of the worst betting logic. The same logic losing bettors use with roulette ... "look Mike red has come up 10 times in a row, no way it can lose again"....and then it loses 5 more times in a row.How much is a unit for you?
You fail to understand, you cannot compare sports betting to a game of chance like roulette. The facts are simple. Over the span of 11,605 bets I have to date. There have been 360 losing streaks of 3 or more. Here's the breakdown.Losing streaks of 3=331Losing streaks of 4=23Losing streaks of 5=4Losing streaks of 6=1Losing streaks of 7=1That's a STRIKERATE of 92% for losing streaks of 3. That's what waits for the man or woman with SUPREME PATIENCE. Only 360 bets in 8 years. But you would have won 92% of them. So don't talk to me about math. Master THE LOSING STREAK. And you will ALWAYS win in the LONGTERM...
You said a couple pages back that you NEVER lose six in a row. The above contradicts thisProve to us that you understand your system that you laud. Why is your strike rate 92% on a three game losing streak? What do you do differently?You don't know do you?
You dont do anything but wait for the streak. Im not doing anything. Im simply waiting for that tripple loss. The fact that the strikerate is vastly superior to betting every single play is because youre being much more selective in the parameters that qualify a bet. Its an example of quality over quantity. And lets get something else straight. For both you and the other math head sparty44. Ive never LOST 6 IN A ROW. Because I would not continue betting beyond 4. Only a fool tries to outlive a long losing streak.
My upcoming success by November will be garnered from the absolute fact. That far more losing streaks come to rest between 2 and 3. Than go BEYOND 3. In fact theres been 15 already this year in only 200 plays. And zero streaks of 4 or more. Already it should start to be realized.
By the time ive posted 1800 picks on here. Both you and Sparty44 will have a lesson how you really win at sports betting even when you have NO EDGE in strikerate. And the only thing I will wait for is some degree of acknowledgement from you. No matter how clever you think youre at math and statistics. You will not be able to refute my results. NOVEMBER 30TH. Thats the last betting day of the season for me. And a day of realization for all negative beings on these forums...
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Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:
Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel3:
Quote Originally Posted by sparty444:
You're still not understanding math again. No matter how many wagers people wait, the odds based on your lines are going to be 66% wins per wager. The odds don't change just because you have lost 2-3 or whatever in a row. Your logic is some of the worst betting logic. The same logic losing bettors use with roulette ... "look Mike red has come up 10 times in a row, no way it can lose again"....and then it loses 5 more times in a row.How much is a unit for you?
You fail to understand, you cannot compare sports betting to a game of chance like roulette. The facts are simple. Over the span of 11,605 bets I have to date. There have been 360 losing streaks of 3 or more. Here's the breakdown.Losing streaks of 3=331Losing streaks of 4=23Losing streaks of 5=4Losing streaks of 6=1Losing streaks of 7=1That's a STRIKERATE of 92% for losing streaks of 3. That's what waits for the man or woman with SUPREME PATIENCE. Only 360 bets in 8 years. But you would have won 92% of them. So don't talk to me about math. Master THE LOSING STREAK. And you will ALWAYS win in the LONGTERM...
You said a couple pages back that you NEVER lose six in a row. The above contradicts thisProve to us that you understand your system that you laud. Why is your strike rate 92% on a three game losing streak? What do you do differently?You don't know do you?
You dont do anything but wait for the streak. Im not doing anything. Im simply waiting for that tripple loss. The fact that the strikerate is vastly superior to betting every single play is because youre being much more selective in the parameters that qualify a bet. Its an example of quality over quantity. And lets get something else straight. For both you and the other math head sparty44. Ive never LOST 6 IN A ROW. Because I would not continue betting beyond 4. Only a fool tries to outlive a long losing streak.
My upcoming success by November will be garnered from the absolute fact. That far more losing streaks come to rest between 2 and 3. Than go BEYOND 3. In fact theres been 15 already this year in only 200 plays. And zero streaks of 4 or more. Already it should start to be realized.
By the time ive posted 1800 picks on here. Both you and Sparty44 will have a lesson how you really win at sports betting even when you have NO EDGE in strikerate. And the only thing I will wait for is some degree of acknowledgement from you. No matter how clever you think youre at math and statistics. You will not be able to refute my results. NOVEMBER 30TH. Thats the last betting day of the season for me. And a day of realization for all negative beings on these forums...
Sentinel why are you even breaking your head explaining to these fools your system...it's either they follow you or not, your not forcing anyone to tail you...when you had a winning streak of 11 or 12 nobody was giving negative comments suddenly these clowns are coming out expectinf you to always win. This shows people in this forum have no idea what sports betting is...you win some you lose some. So for those greedy rats that come here to complain if you dont like his system or picks nobodies forcing you to follow them, im pretty sure you all have garbage picks and never win so dont expect a God to make you win in gambling...not gonna happen. Swallow the losses and be grateful for ur wins. Thats it.
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Sentinel why are you even breaking your head explaining to these fools your system...it's either they follow you or not, your not forcing anyone to tail you...when you had a winning streak of 11 or 12 nobody was giving negative comments suddenly these clowns are coming out expectinf you to always win. This shows people in this forum have no idea what sports betting is...you win some you lose some. So for those greedy rats that come here to complain if you dont like his system or picks nobodies forcing you to follow them, im pretty sure you all have garbage picks and never win so dont expect a God to make you win in gambling...not gonna happen. Swallow the losses and be grateful for ur wins. Thats it.
Just ignore the noise Sentinel, that's all it is... What matches are you looking at this afternoon? I keep missing your plays when you post them and I can't get it my wagers on time. Appreciate what you do!
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Just ignore the noise Sentinel, that's all it is... What matches are you looking at this afternoon? I keep missing your plays when you post them and I can't get it my wagers on time. Appreciate what you do!
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