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    An idea for the already 33% system !!!

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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2008 - 5:55 PM ET #1

    First of all any help would be appreciated... Well for what I have read in different sources this system takinf favorite/over and Underdog/Under if the line is at least 33% of the total you would hit about 65% of the games making it very profitable, the problem is where you can place this bets well you gotta find that out but yourself but I got another idea...here it is:
     
    In 1 game you have 2 parlays each one between 30-35% chance of hitting it, so lets say if you play both you have like 65% chance of hitting 1 of those for a payout 1-2.6 now if you instead of making just 2 parlays in 1 single game what about if you make a 4 4-team parlay in 2 games with a 1-10 odds? Lets make the math with a 65% chance of hitting 1 out of 2 in each game !!!
     
    Game A: 65%
    Game B: 65%
     
    Probabilitie of hitting 1 of the 4 4-team parlay= 0.65 * 0.65 = 0.4225 = 42.25% ... Now lets put 100 bets at $100 each parlay !!!
     
    With a 2 team parlay you would have 65 winners and (35 * 2) + 65 loosers ... that would be 65 winners and  135 loosers for a payout like this:
     
    Win = 65 * 100 * 2.6 = $16,900
    Loose = 135 * 100 = $13500
    Profit = $3400
     
    Now wit 4 4-team plarlays would be:
     
    At 42.25% chance of winning 1 of those 4 lets say in 100 bets(4 parlays) you win 42 times and loose 58 times...with 1-10 odds..
     
    Win = 42 * 100 * 10 = $42000
    Loose = ( (58 * 4) + (42 * 3) ) * 100 = $35800
    Profit = 42000 - 35800 = $6200
     
    Risking the same amount there is a big difference in the profit, of course the variance increases but is it worthly? what do you think? Another point is that there is a huge number of combinations you could do in a week of 10 games that qualify making combinations of 4 team parlays with these 10 teams would be a lot and you would require a huge bankroll if you want to keep playing at 100 each one...Now what about if you place for example in a week of 10 game you place 5-2 games combinations making 20 parlays that would be the same as making 10-1 game parlays for a total of 20 parlays... Am I missing something? help me out if you got any ideas or opinions !!!
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    First of all any help would be appreciated... Well for what I have read in different sources this system takinf favorite/over and Underdog/Under if the line is at least 33% of the total you would hit about 65% of the games making it very profitable, the problem is where you can place this bets well you gotta find that out but yourself but I got another idea...here it is:
     
    In 1 game you have 2 parlays each one between 30-35% chance of hitting it, so lets say if you play both you have like 65% chance of hitting 1 of those for a payout 1-2.6 now if you instead of making just 2 parlays in 1 single game what about if you make a 4 4-team parlay in 2 games with a 1-10 odds? Lets make the math with a 65% chance of hitting 1 out of 2 in each game !!!
     
    Game A: 65%
    Game B: 65%
     
    Probabilitie of hitting 1 of the 4 4-team parlay= 0.65 * 0.65 = 0.4225 = 42.25% ... Now lets put 100 bets at $100 each parlay !!!
     
    With a 2 team parlay you would have 65 winners and (35 * 2) + 65 loosers ... that would be 65 winners and  135 loosers for a payout like this:
     
    Win = 65 * 100 * 2.6 = $16,900
    Loose = 135 * 100 = $13500
    Profit = $3400
     
    Now wit 4 4-team plarlays would be:
     
    At 42.25% chance of winning 1 of those 4 lets say in 100 bets(4 parlays) you win 42 times and loose 58 times...with 1-10 odds..
     
    Win = 42 * 100 * 10 = $42000
    Loose = ( (58 * 4) + (42 * 3) ) * 100 = $35800
    Profit = 42000 - 35800 = $6200
     
    Risking the same amount there is a big difference in the profit, of course the variance increases but is it worthly? what do you think? Another point is that there is a huge number of combinations you could do in a week of 10 games that qualify making combinations of 4 team parlays with these 10 teams would be a lot and you would require a huge bankroll if you want to keep playing at 100 each one...Now what about if you place for example in a week of 10 game you place 5-2 games combinations making 20 parlays that would be the same as making 10-1 game parlays for a total of 20 parlays... Am I missing something? help me out if you got any ideas or opinions !!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2008 - 9:38 PM ET #2

    i say stick with 2 teams but u do have some valid points but its all personal opinion
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    i say stick with 2 teams but u do have some valid points but its all personal opinion
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2008 - 3:16 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by GmoNavarro:

    First of all any help would be appreciated... Well for what I have read in different sources this system takinf favorite/over and Underdog/Under if the line is at least 33% of the total you would hit about 65% of the games making it very profitable, the problem is where you can place this bets well you gotta find that out but yourself but I got another idea...here it is:
     
    In 1 game you have 2 parlays each one between 30-35% chance of hitting it, so lets say if you play both you have like 65% chance of hitting 1 of those for a payout 1-2.6 now if you instead of making just 2 parlays in 1 single game what about if you make a 4 4-team parlay in 2 games with a 1-10 odds? Lets make the math with a 65% chance of hitting 1 out of 2 in each game !!!
     
    Game A: 65%
    Game B: 65%
     
    Probabilitie of hitting 1 of the 4 4-team parlay= 0.65 * 0.65 = 0.4225 = 42.25% ... Now lets put 100 bets at $100 each parlay !!!
     
    With a 2 team parlay you would have 65 winners and (35 * 2) + 65 loosers ... that would be 65 winners and  135 loosers for a payout like this:
     
    Win = 65 * 100 * 2.6 = $16,900
    Loose = 135 * 100 = $13500
    Profit = $3400
     
    Now wit 4 4-team plarlays would be:
     
    At 42.25% chance of winning 1 of those 4 lets say in 100 bets(4 parlays) you win 42 times and loose 58 times...with 1-10 odds..
     
    Win = 42 * 100 * 10 = $42000
    Loose = ( (58 * 4) + (42 * 3) ) * 100 = $35800
    Profit = 42000 - 35800 = $6200
     
    Risking the same amount there is a big difference in the profit, of course the variance increases but is it worthly? what do you think? Another point is that there is a huge number of combinations you could do in a week of 10 games that qualify making combinations of 4 team parlays with these 10 teams would be a lot and you would require a huge bankroll if you want to keep playing at 100 each one...Now what about if you place for example in a week of 10 game you place 5-2 games combinations making 20 parlays that would be the same as making 10-1 game parlays for a total of 20 parlays... Am I missing something? help me out if you got any ideas or opinions !!!

     

    Your thought process is great. The thing I have a little concern over is the 65% estimate. Is this actually the rate at which these in-game parlays hit? Id go back a few years, probably 10 in fact, then Id plug that oct into your system to decide the best option.

     

    Thee are lots of different ways to bet to gain small advantages here and there as opposed to the customary way of betting, basically better payouts. Let me know if you ever come up with that percentage, GL

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    Quote Originally Posted by GmoNavarro:

    First of all any help would be appreciated... Well for what I have read in different sources this system takinf favorite/over and Underdog/Under if the line is at least 33% of the total you would hit about 65% of the games making it very profitable, the problem is where you can place this bets well you gotta find that out but yourself but I got another idea...here it is:
     
    In 1 game you have 2 parlays each one between 30-35% chance of hitting it, so lets say if you play both you have like 65% chance of hitting 1 of those for a payout 1-2.6 now if you instead of making just 2 parlays in 1 single game what about if you make a 4 4-team parlay in 2 games with a 1-10 odds? Lets make the math with a 65% chance of hitting 1 out of 2 in each game !!!
     
    Game A: 65%
    Game B: 65%
     
    Probabilitie of hitting 1 of the 4 4-team parlay= 0.65 * 0.65 = 0.4225 = 42.25% ... Now lets put 100 bets at $100 each parlay !!!
     
    With a 2 team parlay you would have 65 winners and (35 * 2) + 65 loosers ... that would be 65 winners and  135 loosers for a payout like this:
     
    Win = 65 * 100 * 2.6 = $16,900
    Loose = 135 * 100 = $13500
    Profit = $3400
     
    Now wit 4 4-team plarlays would be:
     
    At 42.25% chance of winning 1 of those 4 lets say in 100 bets(4 parlays) you win 42 times and loose 58 times...with 1-10 odds..
     
    Win = 42 * 100 * 10 = $42000
    Loose = ( (58 * 4) + (42 * 3) ) * 100 = $35800
    Profit = 42000 - 35800 = $6200
     
    Risking the same amount there is a big difference in the profit, of course the variance increases but is it worthly? what do you think? Another point is that there is a huge number of combinations you could do in a week of 10 games that qualify making combinations of 4 team parlays with these 10 teams would be a lot and you would require a huge bankroll if you want to keep playing at 100 each one...Now what about if you place for example in a week of 10 game you place 5-2 games combinations making 20 parlays that would be the same as making 10-1 game parlays for a total of 20 parlays... Am I missing something? help me out if you got any ideas or opinions !!!

     

    Your thought process is great. The thing I have a little concern over is the 65% estimate. Is this actually the rate at which these in-game parlays hit? Id go back a few years, probably 10 in fact, then Id plug that oct into your system to decide the best option.

     

    Thee are lots of different ways to bet to gain small advantages here and there as opposed to the customary way of betting, basically better payouts. Let me know if you ever come up with that percentage, GL

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2008 - 12:18 PM ET #4

    very smart thinking but here is why your system wont work:

    what if in a 4 game parlay, you have one game that wins the system and one game that loses the system.  well, you lose everything!  so at $100 per parlay, you lose $400 total.

    regularly with a 2 game parlay betting $100, you would only lose $40.

    Big difference!
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    very smart thinking but here is why your system wont work:

    what if in a 4 game parlay, you have one game that wins the system and one game that loses the system.  well, you lose everything!  so at $100 per parlay, you lose $400 total.

    regularly with a 2 game parlay betting $100, you would only lose $40.

    Big difference!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2008 - 6:15 PM ET #5

    For kicks lets see how the system would do with tonights games. 

    USC -24 O/U - 52.5 45%
    Tulane -18.5 O/U - 50 37%

    Both are over the 33% mark. What would the parlay be??

    SC/OVER and TUL/OVER
    OSU/UNDER and SMU/UNDER
    SMU/UNDER and SC/OVER
    OSU/UNDER and TUL/OVER

    We'll put 1 unit on each
    RISK = 4 UNITS
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    For kicks lets see how the system would do with tonights games. 

    USC -24 O/U - 52.5 45%
    Tulane -18.5 O/U - 50 37%

    Both are over the 33% mark. What would the parlay be??

    SC/OVER and TUL/OVER
    OSU/UNDER and SMU/UNDER
    SMU/UNDER and SC/OVER
    OSU/UNDER and TUL/OVER

    We'll put 1 unit on each
    RISK = 4 UNITS
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2008 - 6:43 PM ET #6

    Never mind I over thought that.. forget all that...
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    Never mind I over thought that.. forget all that...
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2008 - 11:34 AM ET #7

    naw man, you had a good scenario going there.  but as you can see, the outcome resulted in one game winning and the other game losing.  so all for of your bets would have lost resulting in minus 4 units.  The regular way of doing it would have only cost you .4 units.  Again, big difference!
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    naw man, you had a good scenario going there.  but as you can see, the outcome resulted in one game winning and the other game losing.  so all for of your bets would have lost resulting in minus 4 units.  The regular way of doing it would have only cost you .4 units.  Again, big difference!
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