the MSM/Gov. disseminated information that the majority of the public believes is accepted, and not censored? Why is the alternative information believed by less people demonized and shut out? Why can't both sides be treated equally? Let's say neither side can prove all their points, but each side should be able to express their views unbridled. What is this called? Communism? Fascism? The new United States of America? Something needs to change, and fast!!!!!
WHY IS IT..............
the MSM/Gov. disseminated information that the majority of the public believes is accepted, and not censored? Why is the alternative information believed by less people demonized and shut out? Why can't both sides be treated equally? Let's say neither side can prove all their points, but each side should be able to express their views unbridled. What is this called? Communism? Fascism? The new United States of America? Something needs to change, and fast!!!!!
Frustrating isn’t it? Where were you when GWB & Co rammed the “Patriot Act” up our arses???
Biden not only voted for the 2001 Patriot Act, he, on many occasions, claimed credit for writing it
Frustrating isn’t it? Where were you when GWB & Co rammed the “Patriot Act” up our arses???
Biden not only voted for the 2001 Patriot Act, he, on many occasions, claimed credit for writing it
@I_Need_A_Detox
Biden most certainly DID NOT write the Patriot Act but that’s never stopped you from rewriting history across these forums.
@I_Need_A_Detox
Biden most certainly DID NOT write the Patriot Act but that’s never stopped you from rewriting history across these forums.
@TheGoldenGoose Where were you?
i was here. Same place I’ve been for 19 years here at covers. If you’re a true Libertarian, like you claim to be, then you should have been absolutely livid when the Bush & Cheney mob lied about weapons of mass destruction to get everyone on board.
Don’t give us this “don’t tread on me” BS and then claim ignorance when the SHTF.
@TheGoldenGoose Where were you?
i was here. Same place I’ve been for 19 years here at covers. If you’re a true Libertarian, like you claim to be, then you should have been absolutely livid when the Bush & Cheney mob lied about weapons of mass destruction to get everyone on board.
Don’t give us this “don’t tread on me” BS and then claim ignorance when the SHTF.
@I_Need_A_Detox Biden most certainly DID NOT write the Patriot Act but that’s never stopped you from rewriting history across these forums.
I think you misunderstood what he said. He didn’t say that Biden did. He said Biden said he did.
Biden, in fact, has repeatedly taken credit and supported it. Etc., etc.
@I_Need_A_Detox Biden most certainly DID NOT write the Patriot Act but that’s never stopped you from rewriting history across these forums.
I think you misunderstood what he said. He didn’t say that Biden did. He said Biden said he did.
Biden, in fact, has repeatedly taken credit and supported it. Etc., etc.
For example:
Joe Biden admits, “I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up [the Patriot Act] was my bill”.
Biden himself draws parallels between his 1995 bill and its 2001 cousin. “I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill,” he said when the Patriot Act was being debated, according to the New Republic, which described him as “the Democratic Party’s de facto spokesman on the war against terrorism.”
Biden’s chronology is not accurate: the bombing took place in April 1995 and his bill had been introduced in February 1995. But it’s true that Biden’s proposal probably helped to lay the groundwork for the Bush administration’s Patriot Act.
Along with most of his colleagues in the Congress — including Sen. John McCain but not Rep. Ron Paul — Biden voted for the Patriot Act and the Real ID Act (which was part of a larger spending bill). Obama voted for the bill containing the Real ID Act, but wasn’t in the U.S. Senate in 2001 when the original Patriot Act vote took place.
Etc., etc.
For example:
Joe Biden admits, “I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up [the Patriot Act] was my bill”.
Biden himself draws parallels between his 1995 bill and its 2001 cousin. “I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill,” he said when the Patriot Act was being debated, according to the New Republic, which described him as “the Democratic Party’s de facto spokesman on the war against terrorism.”
Biden’s chronology is not accurate: the bombing took place in April 1995 and his bill had been introduced in February 1995. But it’s true that Biden’s proposal probably helped to lay the groundwork for the Bush administration’s Patriot Act.
Along with most of his colleagues in the Congress — including Sen. John McCain but not Rep. Ron Paul — Biden voted for the Patriot Act and the Real ID Act (which was part of a larger spending bill). Obama voted for the bill containing the Real ID Act, but wasn’t in the U.S. Senate in 2001 when the original Patriot Act vote took place.
Etc., etc.
You can watch Biden, himself, say it here:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4876107/user-clip-joe-biden-wrote-patriot-act
You can watch Biden, himself, say it here:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4876107/user-clip-joe-biden-wrote-patriot-act
You can watch Biden, himself, say it here: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4876107/user-clip-joe-biden-wrote-patriot-act
That shows you how BOTH parties are liars.
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You can watch Biden, himself, say it here: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4876107/user-clip-joe-biden-wrote-patriot-act
That shows you how BOTH parties are liars.
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Never liked Cheney.
Still waiting for that scumbag to kick the bucket so I can pizz on his grave.
Never liked Cheney.
Still waiting for that scumbag to kick the bucket so I can pizz on his grave.
Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: You can watch Biden, himself, say it here: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4876107/user-clip-joe-biden-wrote-patriot-act That shows you how BOTH parties are liars.
How so? That was just Biden in the video. Did a Republican also lie about writing the Patriot Act?
Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: You can watch Biden, himself, say it here: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4876107/user-clip-joe-biden-wrote-patriot-act That shows you how BOTH parties are liars.
How so? That was just Biden in the video. Did a Republican also lie about writing the Patriot Act?
WASN'T JUST THE GOVERNMENT
2004, The Gaurdian;
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2004/may/26/pressandpublishing.usnews
New York Times: we were wrong on Iraq
Ah yes the NYT almost guaranteeing Iraq had WMD.
The New York Times today admitted he had introduced reporters to exiles bent on "regime change" in Iraq. They lied, we believed.
And it said that when other journalists wrote stories that appeared to contradict claims of a WMD programme in Iraq, their reports were buried.
Recent research showed more than half of all national news journalists and 46% of local news reporters in the US "believe that journalism is going in the wrong direction".-2004 ![]()
WASN'T JUST THE GOVERNMENT
2004, The Gaurdian;
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2004/may/26/pressandpublishing.usnews
New York Times: we were wrong on Iraq
Ah yes the NYT almost guaranteeing Iraq had WMD.
The New York Times today admitted he had introduced reporters to exiles bent on "regime change" in Iraq. They lied, we believed.
And it said that when other journalists wrote stories that appeared to contradict claims of a WMD programme in Iraq, their reports were buried.
Recent research showed more than half of all national news journalists and 46% of local news reporters in the US "believe that journalism is going in the wrong direction".-2004 ![]()
Quote Originally Posted by jpot34: @TheGoldenGoose Where were you? i was here. Same place I’ve been for 19 years here at covers. If you’re a true Libertarian, like you claim to be, then you should have been absolutely livid when the Bush & Cheney mob lied about weapons of mass destruction to get everyone on board. Don’t give us this “don’t tread on me” BS and then claim ignorance when the SHTF.
Thanks to HRC and her friends.
Quote Originally Posted by jpot34: @TheGoldenGoose Where were you? i was here. Same place I’ve been for 19 years here at covers. If you’re a true Libertarian, like you claim to be, then you should have been absolutely livid when the Bush & Cheney mob lied about weapons of mass destruction to get everyone on board. Don’t give us this “don’t tread on me” BS and then claim ignorance when the SHTF.
Thanks to HRC and her friends.
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