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    Who is the biggest liar?

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    DogbiteWilliams
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2016 - 9:43 PM ET #1

    It is Ben Carson.  I checked Politifact, the Pulitzer-Prize-winning website.  I just netted out the truths and lies.  Here are the "Final 7" with the overall and "Pants on Fire" scores.

          Carson -70 (-15)
    HRC +44 (-1)
          Cruz -32 (-7)
    Kasich +37 (-5)
    Rubio +15 (-3)
    Sanders +38 (none)
          Trump -56 (-20)

    Shame on millions of low information GOP voters who prefer Trump to Kasich.  This nation deserves better.
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    It is Ben Carson.  I checked Politifact, the Pulitzer-Prize-winning website.  I just netted out the truths and lies.  Here are the "Final 7" with the overall and "Pants on Fire" scores.

          Carson -70 (-15)
    HRC +44 (-1)
          Cruz -32 (-7)
    Kasich +37 (-5)
    Rubio +15 (-3)
    Sanders +38 (none)
          Trump -56 (-20)

    Shame on millions of low information GOP voters who prefer Trump to Kasich.  This nation deserves better.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2016 - 9:52 PM ET #2

    hillary doesnt believe in truth and lies, to her and politico neither is true or false only an arguements debate argument.
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    hillary doesnt believe in truth and lies, to her and politico neither is true or false only an arguements debate argument.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2016 - 10:14 PM ET #3

    https://www.politifact.com/
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    https://www.politifact.com/
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2016 - 12:23 AM ET #4

    Like Kasich the best of the 'pubs, but he just doesn't have the kind of appeal evidently needed nowadays. Sad stuff when a blustery fraud like Trump generates this kind of support, regardless of how understandable it might be.
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    Like Kasich the best of the 'pubs, but he just doesn't have the kind of appeal evidently needed nowadays. Sad stuff when a blustery fraud like Trump generates this kind of support, regardless of how understandable it might be.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2016 - 8:05 PM ET #5

    carson liar? waw a "priest" I didn t know him realy but when he speach he seems the most thinking calm and perhaps truth I am surprising but in reality when you know a lot of priest hide they are pedophile I should not be estonigh
    Cruz face don t inspire me truth and Hillary who smile and say yes to everybody is the less credible I never believe people who smile to everybody that s not possible it could not be true
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    carson liar? waw a "priest" I didn t know him realy but when he speach he seems the most thinking calm and perhaps truth I am surprising but in reality when you know a lot of priest hide they are pedophile I should not be estonigh
    Cruz face don t inspire me truth and Hillary who smile and say yes to everybody is the less credible I never believe people who smile to everybody that s not possible it could not be true
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2016 - 8:53 PM ET #6

    Shame on the millions of low information/low education voters that prefer anyone with a (D) after their name...
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    Shame on the millions of low information/low education voters that prefer anyone with a (D) after their name...
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2016 - 9:12 PM ET #7

    Well when people in the world will understand that it is not about a color or a party  there is no rules or true

    one party not detains all true  it is like religious! you have good things in a party and some bad things

    on my mind I am just waiting a candidate in europe who can mix a trump+sanders 

    but I think it is time now to people write itself his own constitution politician doesn t need to have the power a lot of time and with less money

    citizen draw is the best
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    Well when people in the world will understand that it is not about a color or a party  there is no rules or true

    one party not detains all true  it is like religious! you have good things in a party and some bad things

    on my mind I am just waiting a candidate in europe who can mix a trump+sanders 

    but I think it is time now to people write itself his own constitution politician doesn t need to have the power a lot of time and with less money

    citizen draw is the best
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2016 - 9:30 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by cashin:

    Like Kasich the best of the 'pubs, but he just doesn't have the kind of appeal evidently needed nowadays. Sad stuff when a blustery fraud like Trump generates this kind of support, regardless of how understandable it might be.
    Or Cruz who seems to think he and only he is a true American even though he was not even born here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cashin:

    Like Kasich the best of the 'pubs, but he just doesn't have the kind of appeal evidently needed nowadays. Sad stuff when a blustery fraud like Trump generates this kind of support, regardless of how understandable it might be.
    Or Cruz who seems to think he and only he is a true American even though he was not even born here.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 7, 2016 - 3:10 PM ET #9

    Sign of the times 
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    Sign of the times 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2016 - 11:55 PM ET #10

    Trump is so ignorant that he doesn't know if he's lying or not. Just keeps dangling the shiny object to grab the attention of his supporters
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    Trump is so ignorant that he doesn't know if he's lying or not. Just keeps dangling the shiny object to grab the attention of his supporters
     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2016 - 3:46 AM ET #11


    What a choice chore the American people will undertake...
    Deciding between Trump and HRC.
    One's a born liar and the other is convicted.

    Without even looking I knew Trump would be the "pants on fire" King.

      Building a Mexican Wall.

    Common sense logistics anybody???

    You guys hold the Fort.  I'll be watching this system closely from Belize.






    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    What a choice chore the American people will undertake...
    Deciding between Trump and HRC.
    One's a born liar and the other is convicted.

    Without even looking I knew Trump would be the "pants on fire" King.

      Building a Mexican Wall.

    Common sense logistics anybody???

    You guys hold the Fort.  I'll be watching this system closely from Belize.






     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2016 - 9:41 AM ET #12

    I wish we could count when a candidate uses a play on words or simply being disingenuous. They would all add to the count but HRC would be the Golden State Warriors of fabrication.

    War on women is a farce.
    War on minorities is a farce.
    Pay inequality is real but not an issue for government to regulate.


    Clintons are born with the ability to use word play.

    I guess it depends on what your definition of 'is' is.
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    I wish we could count when a candidate uses a play on words or simply being disingenuous. They would all add to the count but HRC would be the Golden State Warriors of fabrication.

    War on women is a farce.
    War on minorities is a farce.
    Pay inequality is real but not an issue for government to regulate.


    Clintons are born with the ability to use word play.

    I guess it depends on what your definition of 'is' is.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2016 - 4:31 PM ET #13

    Hillary Rotten Clinton at +44 and Dr Carson at -70 says Pulitzer Prize winning Politifact.

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    Hillary Rotten Clinton at +44 and Dr Carson at -70 says Pulitzer Prize winning Politifact.

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2016 - 7:05 PM ET #14

    Update on 2016-05-10

    HRC:  Total 29%, Pants on Fire 2%

    https://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/

    Trump:  Total 76%, Pants on Fire 19%

    https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

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    Update on 2016-05-10

    HRC:  Total 29%, Pants on Fire 2%

    https://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/

    Trump:  Total 76%, Pants on Fire 19%

    https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2016 - 9:38 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:



      Politifact, the Pulitzer-Prize-winning website.




    This group at PolitiFact is not the same ones that won the Pulitzer Prize.... the ones there now are very bias..Florida journalists with liberal leaning tendencies....

    PolitiFact started off as a partnership of Congressional Quarterly and the Tampa Bay Times formed in 2007, the outfit a won a Pulitzer Prize for its coverage of the 2008 election.

    The partnership dissolved shortly after when The Poynnter Institute – the parent company of both outfits – sold off Congressional Quarterly..

      Bill Adair, editor of PolitiFact needed a fire extinguisher for his pants when he told a lie himself on CBS News’ The Early Show while introducing PolitiFact's  “Lie Of The Year,” award....

    ....https://www.mediaite.com/online/politifact-editor-lies-while-unveiling-lie-of-the-year-that-republicans-voted-to-end-medicare/
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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:



      Politifact, the Pulitzer-Prize-winning website.




    This group at PolitiFact is not the same ones that won the Pulitzer Prize.... the ones there now are very bias..Florida journalists with liberal leaning tendencies....

    PolitiFact started off as a partnership of Congressional Quarterly and the Tampa Bay Times formed in 2007, the outfit a won a Pulitzer Prize for its coverage of the 2008 election.

    The partnership dissolved shortly after when The Poynnter Institute – the parent company of both outfits – sold off Congressional Quarterly..

      Bill Adair, editor of PolitiFact needed a fire extinguisher for his pants when he told a lie himself on CBS News’ The Early Show while introducing PolitiFact's  “Lie Of The Year,” award....

    ....https://www.mediaite.com/online/politifact-editor-lies-while-unveiling-lie-of-the-year-that-republicans-voted-to-end-medicare/
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2016 - 9:59 PM ET #16

    Politifact rating system is based on analysis of politicians comments and the truth.  In 2015, Trump was biggest liar of the year.  Republicans call him a con man. He has a history of lawsuits.  According to yahoo, next lawsuit is about defrauding students who took his real estate course.
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    Politifact rating system is based on analysis of politicians comments and the truth.  In 2015, Trump was biggest liar of the year.  Republicans call him a con man. He has a history of lawsuits.  According to yahoo, next lawsuit is about defrauding students who took his real estate course.
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2016 - 12:12 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Trump is so ignorant that he doesn't know if he's lying or not. Just keeps dangling the shiny object to grab the attention of his supporters

    Just like "Hope & Change" and "I will have the most transparent administration in history"... I'm sure you've been pointing this out as a non-partisan independent, (the guy you admitted voting for in round 1 btw) 
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Trump is so ignorant that he doesn't know if he's lying or not. Just keeps dangling the shiny object to grab the attention of his supporters

    Just like "Hope & Change" and "I will have the most transparent administration in history"... I'm sure you've been pointing this out as a non-partisan independent, (the guy you admitted voting for in round 1 btw) 
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2016 - 5:41 PM ET #18

    Didn't see Obama on the board. 
    Was just commenting on the topic.

    Didn't want to look like a sad desperate partisan lemmings douchebagg trying to bring things and people beyond the thread to try to push a prescribed partisan rhetoric.

    That just isn't what a non-partisan independent like myself would do.  I would hate to choose to post like that I look like such a douchebagg.  

    I guess I can leave that to you
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    Didn't see Obama on the board. 
    Was just commenting on the topic.

    Didn't want to look like a sad desperate partisan lemmings douchebagg trying to bring things and people beyond the thread to try to push a prescribed partisan rhetoric.

    That just isn't what a non-partisan independent like myself would do.  I would hate to choose to post like that I look like such a douchebagg.  

    I guess I can leave that to you
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2016 - 7:06 PM ET #19

    Trump has claimed to be an honor student at Wharton, but there is not a shred of evidence to support that.  He has refused to disclose his transcript.

    https://fortune.com/2015/08/14/donald-trump-wharton/
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    Trump has claimed to be an honor student at Wharton, but there is not a shred of evidence to support that.  He has refused to disclose his transcript.

    https://fortune.com/2015/08/14/donald-trump-wharton/
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2016 - 7:34 PM ET #20

    This is just an opinion piece, but it does help explain why so many of Trump's fans don't care about the facts:

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/donald-trumps-genius-is-making-facts-irrelevant-2016-05-12


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    This is just an opinion piece, but it does help explain why so many of Trump's fans don't care about the facts:

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/donald-trumps-genius-is-making-facts-irrelevant-2016-05-12


     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2016 - 9:09 PM ET #21

    Trump pretended to be his own spokesperson:

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/05/13/trump-has-posed-as-his-own-spokesperson/

    And then he lied about his own lies.
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    Trump pretended to be his own spokesperson:

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/05/13/trump-has-posed-as-his-own-spokesperson/

    And then he lied about his own lies.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2016 - 2:41 PM ET #22

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/07/02/fact-checker-finds-most-trump-statements-are-false/

    Trump's lie tally has now risen to 78%.  He is either clueless or delusional, not exactly Presidential material.
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    https://politicalwire.com/2016/07/02/fact-checker-finds-most-trump-statements-are-false/

    Trump's lie tally has now risen to 78%.  He is either clueless or delusional, not exactly Presidential material.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2016 - 8:39 PM ET #23

    But as you've seen on this thread a biased emotional liar maybe the candidate that best represents who the GOP base is in their identity and the values they have...

    Not over generalizing, just observing the thread
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    But as you've seen on this thread a biased emotional liar maybe the candidate that best represents who the GOP base is in their identity and the values they have...

    Not over generalizing, just observing the thread
     
     
    DogbiteWilliams
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    Posted: Jul. 8, 2016 - 8:28 PM ET #24

    Trump is trying to win over women, and he said, "I think I'm doing really well."

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/07/07/trump-says-hes-working-to-win-over-women/

    We are approaching a record-setting gender gap:

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/07/07/a-record-setting-gender-gap/

    Trump is either lying, delusional or has no idea what is happening in this country.  Not exactly Presidential material.

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    Trump is trying to win over women, and he said, "I think I'm doing really well."

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/07/07/trump-says-hes-working-to-win-over-women/

    We are approaching a record-setting gender gap:

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/07/07/a-record-setting-gender-gap/

    Trump is either lying, delusional or has no idea what is happening in this country.  Not exactly Presidential material.

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