This is the oldest debate my wife and I have, back to even before we dated. She was vehemently against it. I was like, "Man, I think these dudes are sitting around on death row longer than Snoop. We need to start killing these dudes off. We were diametrically opposed. When the Christmas Day massacre happened, I think it hit close to home for familial reasons. And I think she was able to see my viewpoint personified.
I don't watch much "news" but I'm visiting friends, and they tend to have the "news" on. I'm looking at this Subway shooter and I'm thinking, "Fuck, put the needle in this dude's arm right now. I'm well aware that it makes me a horrible human being but alas.
R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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This is the oldest debate my wife and I have, back to even before we dated. She was vehemently against it. I was like, "Man, I think these dudes are sitting around on death row longer than Snoop. We need to start killing these dudes off. We were diametrically opposed. When the Christmas Day massacre happened, I think it hit close to home for familial reasons. And I think she was able to see my viewpoint personified.
I don't watch much "news" but I'm visiting friends, and they tend to have the "news" on. I'm looking at this Subway shooter and I'm thinking, "Fuck, put the needle in this dude's arm right now. I'm well aware that it makes me a horrible human being but alas.
I don't believe executions deter future crimes & the possibility of killing an innocent person exists. I believe in God and think only he can punch someone's ticket.
Morally speaking, there was a time in my life when I was a strong proponent of an "eye for an eye" but after seeing so much death I have indeed mellowed. At the same time, if a member of my family was murdered, all bets would be off as to how I would behave. I would be consumed by vengeance until I got my shit together.
Waiting for all the appeals to be heard would never bring closure in the timeframe I'd want/expect. I would also fund the commissary of any inmate that could do me favors to the person who took someone I love.
I'll take a swing Stu....
I don't believe executions deter future crimes & the possibility of killing an innocent person exists. I believe in God and think only he can punch someone's ticket.
Morally speaking, there was a time in my life when I was a strong proponent of an "eye for an eye" but after seeing so much death I have indeed mellowed. At the same time, if a member of my family was murdered, all bets would be off as to how I would behave. I would be consumed by vengeance until I got my shit together.
Waiting for all the appeals to be heard would never bring closure in the timeframe I'd want/expect. I would also fund the commissary of any inmate that could do me favors to the person who took someone I love.
Very similar rationale to the Mrs, brother. I am very much eye for an eye, but only in particularly heinous smoking gun cases. This subway shooter I would arrest on a Monday and execute that Wednesday.
R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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Very similar rationale to the Mrs, brother. I am very much eye for an eye, but only in particularly heinous smoking gun cases. This subway shooter I would arrest on a Monday and execute that Wednesday.
I can see both sides on this.In certain situations (McVeigh-terrorist attacks where a lot of innocent people including kids are purposely killed),cook the mf'er and make a public display of it, so people know what the consequences are for those kind of actions.But I also see the other side of it where I can't get behind it,because I believe the justice system does make mistakes,and innocent people would eventually be put to death for something they are innocent of doing.I personally do not believe in any god,so I'm not to worried about how he would view it.I can see the point of, if you take another persons life,I can't see how you could complain when someones looking to take yours.The problem in most cases is I don't know if your ever 100% sure of someones guilt,mistakes are always made.I don't think they should try and sell it as a deterrent so others don't kill people(it's a tough sell to say,"We're gonna kill someone who killed someone,to teach people,that killing someone is wrong),but as a punishment for your actions of killing someone.
I can see both sides on this.In certain situations (McVeigh-terrorist attacks where a lot of innocent people including kids are purposely killed),cook the mf'er and make a public display of it, so people know what the consequences are for those kind of actions.But I also see the other side of it where I can't get behind it,because I believe the justice system does make mistakes,and innocent people would eventually be put to death for something they are innocent of doing.I personally do not believe in any god,so I'm not to worried about how he would view it.I can see the point of, if you take another persons life,I can't see how you could complain when someones looking to take yours.The problem in most cases is I don't know if your ever 100% sure of someones guilt,mistakes are always made.I don't think they should try and sell it as a deterrent so others don't kill people(it's a tough sell to say,"We're gonna kill someone who killed someone,to teach people,that killing someone is wrong),but as a punishment for your actions of killing someone.
South Carolina courts gave Richard Moore eight days to decide exactly how he wants to die, and on Friday he made his choice. Moore, who has been on South Carolina’s death row for 21 years, is scheduled for execution on April 29. By state law, the 57-year-old Spartanburg man had to determine which execution method will be responsible for ending his life: the state’s 110-year-old electric chair or a three-man firing squad. Moore picked the newest option offered by the state, the firing squad. Lethal injection was not an option.
He killed a convenience store clerk during a robbery & was prosecuted by former member of the House Trey Gowdy. The jurors decided the case in 2 days, found him guilty & recommended the death sentence in 2 hours.
He will be executed by a 3 person firing squad. A lethal injection wasn't an option as it's "unavailable" because manufacturers will not provide it to the state.
Just saw this report....
South Carolina courts gave Richard Moore eight days to decide exactly how he wants to die, and on Friday he made his choice. Moore, who has been on South Carolina’s death row for 21 years, is scheduled for execution on April 29. By state law, the 57-year-old Spartanburg man had to determine which execution method will be responsible for ending his life: the state’s 110-year-old electric chair or a three-man firing squad. Moore picked the newest option offered by the state, the firing squad. Lethal injection was not an option.
He killed a convenience store clerk during a robbery & was prosecuted by former member of the House Trey Gowdy. The jurors decided the case in 2 days, found him guilty & recommended the death sentence in 2 hours.
He will be executed by a 3 person firing squad. A lethal injection wasn't an option as it's "unavailable" because manufacturers will not provide it to the state.
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