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    Trump is exposing the American political system for what it has has become.

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    bulldozer10
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2017 - 9:16 AM ET #1

    These guys are not folks who have VALUES and fight for them. The Democrats just simply want to ruin America, and the Republicans stand by  (wink, wink)  and say, we don't like this, but we'll try and pretend we do.




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    These guys are not folks who have VALUES and fight for them. The Democrats just simply want to ruin America, and the Republicans stand by  (wink, wink)  and say, we don't like this, but we'll try and pretend we do.




     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2017 - 7:16 PM ET #2

    listen both sides are corrupt.  Honestly how can you even say this tax bill is a good thing for the working man.  The republicans spend thier whole time in office trying to figure out ways to take from the 99 percent of the population and give it to the 1 percenters.  Now if you are a 1 percenter, then you will be happy as a pig in crap, but if you are one of the other 99 percent, within in 2 years you will be paying higher taxes.  I honestly am starting to believe the human race is very dumb, where people keep on voting against their own self interests and instead enjoy seeing the rich get their money
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    listen both sides are corrupt.  Honestly how can you even say this tax bill is a good thing for the working man.  The republicans spend thier whole time in office trying to figure out ways to take from the 99 percent of the population and give it to the 1 percenters.  Now if you are a 1 percenter, then you will be happy as a pig in crap, but if you are one of the other 99 percent, within in 2 years you will be paying higher taxes.  I honestly am starting to believe the human race is very dumb, where people keep on voting against their own self interests and instead enjoy seeing the rich get their money
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2017 - 8:36 PM ET #3

    OMFG..a CD sighting....


     u controversial..........................
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    OMFG..a CD sighting....


     u controversial..........................
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2017 - 9:19 PM ET #4

    God is using President Trump to expose everything in America...including the church
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    God is using President Trump to expose everything in America...including the church
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 6:46 PM ET #5

    What is he exposing?  Some of you people need to wake up.  Mean while hes put all corrupt billionaires in powerful posts to run things. Seriously how stupid are some of you.  A circus con artist has so many people brain washed, its down right comical.  Actuakky its gonna be funny when this tax bill destroys the very idiots that voted for trump
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    What is he exposing?  Some of you people need to wake up.  Mean while hes put all corrupt billionaires in powerful posts to run things. Seriously how stupid are some of you.  A circus con artist has so many people brain washed, its down right comical.  Actuakky its gonna be funny when this tax bill destroys the very idiots that voted for trump
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2017 - 7:51 PM ET #6

    Destroy? 

    Ummm, no. 

    The people you’re calling “corrupt billionaires put in powerful posts” are the perfect people to deregulate. That’s why they’re there. 

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    Destroy? 

    Ummm, no. 

    The people you’re calling “corrupt billionaires put in powerful posts” are the perfect people to deregulate. That’s why they’re there. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2017 - 1:07 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    What is he exposing?  Some of you people need to wake up.  Mean while ... Actuakky its gonna be funny when this tax bill destroys the very idiots that voted for trump


    you can barely form words, let alone a sentence. you need to wake up, stop watching the main stream news, and see that he's cleaning out ur $hithole country
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    What is he exposing?  Some of you people need to wake up.  Mean while ... Actuakky its gonna be funny when this tax bill destroys the very idiots that voted for trump


    you can barely form words, let alone a sentence. you need to wake up, stop watching the main stream news, and see that he's cleaning out ur $hithole country
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2017 - 3:21 PM ET #8

    More like Trump is a total reflection & beneficiary of what our politics have become. You don't drain the swamp with a large swamp rat...
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    More like Trump is a total reflection & beneficiary of what our politics have become. You don't drain the swamp with a large swamp rat...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2017 - 8:23 AM ET #9

    Cd329 is right that GOP tax plan is flawed.  Congress budget office and most economists agree that tax cuts can lead to more federal deficits, debt, income inequality and spending cuts to vital programs   Possibly higher taxes as in Kansas after tax cuts.

    Myth of voodoo economics is that tax cuts would pay for themselves by boosting economic growth and jobs creation.  According to 65 years study by Congress research service, there is no correlation between tax cuts and economic growth.  Actually, big tax cutting countries such as the US didn't have faster economic growth than countries that kept taxes high.
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    Cd329 is right that GOP tax plan is flawed.  Congress budget office and most economists agree that tax cuts can lead to more federal deficits, debt, income inequality and spending cuts to vital programs   Possibly higher taxes as in Kansas after tax cuts.

    Myth of voodoo economics is that tax cuts would pay for themselves by boosting economic growth and jobs creation.  According to 65 years study by Congress research service, there is no correlation between tax cuts and economic growth.  Actually, big tax cutting countries such as the US didn't have faster economic growth than countries that kept taxes high.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2017 - 9:03 AM ET #10

    The CBO is a joke, no one should ever reference that office.

    How did they do with their prediction regarding the ACA's ability to self sustain? 

    There are literally millions of dynamic factors which can not be fully accounted for when a huge tax overhaul is taken on. The only way to determine the success/viability of tax reform is in hindsight. And even that is flawed because there are so many numbers that can be manipulated to further someones argument.

    For every argument for, there is an argument against.
    For every example for, there is an example against.

    The truth is, no one knows with certainty if tax overhaul is good, bad, or indifferent for the masses. 
    NO ONE!!!

    Stop swallowing the BS that the MSM feeds you, it will make you fat with ignorance.

    When it comes to taxes there are only three absolutes ...
    1) if the right lowers them the left will whine
    2) if the left raises them the right will whine
    3) I'm paying them

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    The CBO is a joke, no one should ever reference that office.

    How did they do with their prediction regarding the ACA's ability to self sustain? 

    There are literally millions of dynamic factors which can not be fully accounted for when a huge tax overhaul is taken on. The only way to determine the success/viability of tax reform is in hindsight. And even that is flawed because there are so many numbers that can be manipulated to further someones argument.

    For every argument for, there is an argument against.
    For every example for, there is an example against.

    The truth is, no one knows with certainty if tax overhaul is good, bad, or indifferent for the masses. 
    NO ONE!!!

    Stop swallowing the BS that the MSM feeds you, it will make you fat with ignorance.

    When it comes to taxes there are only three absolutes ...
    1) if the right lowers them the left will whine
    2) if the left raises them the right will whine
    3) I'm paying them

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2017 - 10:21 AM ET #11

    According to factcheck.org, Congress buddget office actually estimated the impacts of Obamacare reasonably close.  According to wikipedia, consensus among economists is that CBO has historically issued credible forecasts of both democrat and republican legislative proposals.  Generally, CBO often did better than what Trump have you believe.  Besides, most people trust nonpartisan CBO more than the white house.
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    According to factcheck.org, Congress buddget office actually estimated the impacts of Obamacare reasonably close.  According to wikipedia, consensus among economists is that CBO has historically issued credible forecasts of both democrat and republican legislative proposals.  Generally, CBO often did better than what Trump have you believe.  Besides, most people trust nonpartisan CBO more than the white house.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2017 - 10:48 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by packers1992:

    God is using President Trump to expose everything in America...including the church


    GOD and TRUMP in the same sentence 

    watch out for Lightning Brother 
    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by packers1992:

    God is using President Trump to expose everything in America...including the church


    GOD and TRUMP in the same sentence 

    watch out for Lightning Brother 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2017 - 11:06 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to factcheck.org, Congress buddget office actually estimated the impacts of Obamacare reasonably close.  According to wikipedia, consensus among economists is that CBO has historically issued credible forecasts of both democrat and republican legislative proposals.  Generally, CBO often did better than what Trump have you believe.  Besides, most people trust nonpartisan CBO more than the white house.

    https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2923825/posts

    I don't listen to anything Trump says, just as you shouldn't believe the biased BS that you mistakenly believe to be impartial. 
    bigreds daddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to factcheck.org, Congress buddget office actually estimated the impacts of Obamacare reasonably close.  According to wikipedia, consensus among economists is that CBO has historically issued credible forecasts of both democrat and republican legislative proposals.  Generally, CBO often did better than what Trump have you believe.  Besides, most people trust nonpartisan CBO more than the white house.

    https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2923825/posts

    I don't listen to anything Trump says, just as you shouldn't believe the biased BS that you mistakenly believe to be impartial. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2017 - 11:35 PM ET #14

    If there were a,election today Trump would be a distant 2nd. Putin is the one smart sob.
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    If there were a,election today Trump would be a distant 2nd. Putin is the one smart sob.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2017 - 11:47 PM ET #15

    Goldman Sachs evaluation of the tax cut bill even says it will add 500 billion to 1 trillion to the deficit.
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    Goldman Sachs evaluation of the tax cut bill even says it will add 500 billion to 1 trillion to the deficit.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2017 - 12:20 AM ET #16

    Tilt’s taxes are probably going increase a little bit. Unlike the vast majority of you in this forum.  

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    Tilt’s taxes are probably going increase a little bit. Unlike the vast majority of you in this forum.  

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2017 - 9:40 PM ET #17

    As long as PUBLIC  Unions exist YOUR taxes will always go up with the salary and benefits of the PUBLIC union. That is not Fake News 
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    As long as PUBLIC  Unions exist YOUR taxes will always go up with the salary and benefits of the PUBLIC union. That is not Fake News 
     
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    What many people don't understand is the big difference between “ordinary income” (from wages, a salary, short-term capital gains and interest) and “passive income” (from stock dividends and long-term capital gains). The federal government taxes ordinary income at up to 35 percent and passive income at 15 percent.



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    What many people don't understand is the big difference between “ordinary income” (from wages, a salary, short-term capital gains and interest) and “passive income” (from stock dividends and long-term capital gains). The federal government taxes ordinary income at up to 35 percent and passive income at 15 percent.



     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2017 - 11:51 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    If there were a,election today Trump would be a distant 2nd. Putin is the one smart sob.

    Do you watch the news? Just curious... Seriously, you couldn't possibly think the corrupt Frump would win today? The people that said they'd accept the election results continue to refuse the election results.

    If the same election was held today, he'd win bigger....

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    If there were a,election today Trump would be a distant 2nd. Putin is the one smart sob.

    Do you watch the news? Just curious... Seriously, you couldn't possibly think the corrupt Frump would win today? The people that said they'd accept the election results continue to refuse the election results.

    If the same election was held today, he'd win bigger....

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2017 - 12:12 AM ET #20

    You got that right Killer_B..

    If, the same election was held today,the people of America would choose Trump over the Frump.......





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    You got that right Killer_B..

    If, the same election was held today,the people of America would choose Trump over the Frump.......





     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2017 - 9:10 PM ET #21

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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2017 - 1:07 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    If there were a,election today Trump would be a distant 2nd. Putin is the one smart sob.


    actually he would win by more than the landslide he won by in the first place. what planet are you from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    If there were a,election today Trump would be a distant 2nd. Putin is the one smart sob.


    actually he would win by more than the landslide he won by in the first place. what planet are you from?
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