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    fubah2
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2022 - 5:26 PM ET #226

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

     

    @UNIMAN.

    Boy, your an impatient little booger aren't you. I've been watching The Secret Life of the Cruise on Prime & haven't been refreshing Covers every 2 minutes unlike others in here.

      That was your buddy 3rdeye who mentioned UN soldiers being shipped to Canada which was total bullshit.

    As far as you're concerned, you insinuated our Pentagon didn't have "exceptional detail" of Russia's invasion plans while providing no proof to the contrary.

    The vaccines have outlived their usefulness which is also bullshit. People are still lining up for the vaccine while another booster shot is in the works.

    You continuously post individual state data regarding the virus which is far from reliable but that doesn't stop you.

    You quote unnamed Ottawa police supposedly bragging about roughing up people but when someone else mention info from a "reliable source" you question who it is. You can't have it both ways bro.

    I've got more but what's the use. Back to the documentary...

                   an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

     

    @UNIMAN.

    Boy, your an impatient little booger aren't you. I've been watching The Secret Life of the Cruise on Prime & haven't been refreshing Covers every 2 minutes unlike others in here.

      That was your buddy 3rdeye who mentioned UN soldiers being shipped to Canada which was total bullshit.

    As far as you're concerned, you insinuated our Pentagon didn't have "exceptional detail" of Russia's invasion plans while providing no proof to the contrary.

    The vaccines have outlived their usefulness which is also bullshit. People are still lining up for the vaccine while another booster shot is in the works.

    You continuously post individual state data regarding the virus which is far from reliable but that doesn't stop you.

    You quote unnamed Ottawa police supposedly bragging about roughing up people but when someone else mention info from a "reliable source" you question who it is. You can't have it both ways bro.

    I've got more but what's the use. Back to the documentary...

                   an_light

     
    melossinglet
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2022 - 6:34 PM ET #227

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @melossinglet  Are you an illegal alien?

     

    huh??wut??what a bizarre question...why would i be?is that an opener for you with every random person you encounter on the interwebbz?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @melossinglet  Are you an illegal alien?

     

    huh??wut??what a bizarre question...why would i be?is that an opener for you with every random person you encounter on the interwebbz?

     
    melossinglet
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2022 - 6:56 PM ET #228

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Well since there are not really health risks to the vaccine anywhere near what the virus has, that is a disingenuous statement and entirely inaccurate. Also how do you figure the vaccine is not working? It is in fact keeping people from having the worst outcomes from covid. A uninformed and uneducated statement. Unfortunately there is a thing with people that the more you try to convince them of the truth the more that they think that the truth is a conspiracy. In this case the truth is science. As far as the the truckers themselves They’re only inconveniencing other truckers. Few are crossing the border for pleasure.

     

    new_laugh_crynew_laugh_crynew_laugh_crynew_poopnew_poopnew_poop

     

    bahaha..the delusion is real.there have been hundreds and hundreds of thousands of injuries reported worldwide,tens of thousands of deaths within close proximity to injection and the worst is yet to come,bet your life on that.and historically the under reporting of vaccine injuries is conservatively estimated at 10% of actual numbers.....only small problem is that none of it will ever be investigated so no causality can ever be proven because....ummm.....oh,what is it.....ah yes,thats right."THEY" DONT GIVE A FLYING FUCC ABOUT THE HEALTH OF THE PUBLIC OR WHAT POSSIBLE HARM THEIR PRODUCT MAY HAVE DONE.....thats the benefit you get when the government allows you ZERO LIABILITY and ZERO proof of efficacy through trial data.oh,what a lark.to rake in over 50 billion fuccing dollars from this and bear no culpability at all.

    unfortunately autopsies are obviously expensive and a whole lot of time and effort would have to be spent to positively confirm a link between the injection and the inflated global death rates and injuries being now reported by insurance companies everywhere so thats nice and convenient for dummies like yourself to just go on pretending like everythings fine and dandy.lining up for your next 10 booster shots like the mouth breathing dunce you are.

     

    in the end,if you are young and healthy and have no ailments or conditions then you were never at much risk at all from the virus and when there is CLEAR AND OBVIOUS RISK,no matter how small,from the unproven experimental "vaccine" then the choice should be entirely yours..many people in that category could reasonably calculate that they are better off foregoing the injection and taking their chances....right or wrong,its their mind and body with which to make that choice.

    your overlords LITERALLY CHANGED THE DEFINITION of the word vaccine and you are here asking how it is "not working"???for most people thats a pretty darn good indicator that it didnt work as expected...not even close.up till now vaccines achieved a certain objective and met certain criteria....this one DOESNT adequately sterilise the virus,DOESNT stop contraction or transmission,DOESNT work beyond a few months and DOESNT adapt to any variation/mutation...its basically useless in the way that we understand vaccines to have always performed..but you go on and keep telling yourself how wonderful it is cos it ticked one out of 10 boxes...good grief,its no wonder we are doomed with folk like you ready to swallow absolutely anything fed to you.

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Well since there are not really health risks to the vaccine anywhere near what the virus has, that is a disingenuous statement and entirely inaccurate. Also how do you figure the vaccine is not working? It is in fact keeping people from having the worst outcomes from covid. A uninformed and uneducated statement. Unfortunately there is a thing with people that the more you try to convince them of the truth the more that they think that the truth is a conspiracy. In this case the truth is science. As far as the the truckers themselves They’re only inconveniencing other truckers. Few are crossing the border for pleasure.

     

    new_laugh_crynew_laugh_crynew_laugh_crynew_poopnew_poopnew_poop

     

    bahaha..the delusion is real.there have been hundreds and hundreds of thousands of injuries reported worldwide,tens of thousands of deaths within close proximity to injection and the worst is yet to come,bet your life on that.and historically the under reporting of vaccine injuries is conservatively estimated at 10% of actual numbers.....only small problem is that none of it will ever be investigated so no causality can ever be proven because....ummm.....oh,what is it.....ah yes,thats right."THEY" DONT GIVE A FLYING FUCC ABOUT THE HEALTH OF THE PUBLIC OR WHAT POSSIBLE HARM THEIR PRODUCT MAY HAVE DONE.....thats the benefit you get when the government allows you ZERO LIABILITY and ZERO proof of efficacy through trial data.oh,what a lark.to rake in over 50 billion fuccing dollars from this and bear no culpability at all.

    unfortunately autopsies are obviously expensive and a whole lot of time and effort would have to be spent to positively confirm a link between the injection and the inflated global death rates and injuries being now reported by insurance companies everywhere so thats nice and convenient for dummies like yourself to just go on pretending like everythings fine and dandy.lining up for your next 10 booster shots like the mouth breathing dunce you are.

     

    in the end,if you are young and healthy and have no ailments or conditions then you were never at much risk at all from the virus and when there is CLEAR AND OBVIOUS RISK,no matter how small,from the unproven experimental "vaccine" then the choice should be entirely yours..many people in that category could reasonably calculate that they are better off foregoing the injection and taking their chances....right or wrong,its their mind and body with which to make that choice.

    your overlords LITERALLY CHANGED THE DEFINITION of the word vaccine and you are here asking how it is "not working"???for most people thats a pretty darn good indicator that it didnt work as expected...not even close.up till now vaccines achieved a certain objective and met certain criteria....this one DOESNT adequately sterilise the virus,DOESNT stop contraction or transmission,DOESNT work beyond a few months and DOESNT adapt to any variation/mutation...its basically useless in the way that we understand vaccines to have always performed..but you go on and keep telling yourself how wonderful it is cos it ticked one out of 10 boxes...good grief,its no wonder we are doomed with folk like you ready to swallow absolutely anything fed to you.

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2022 - 7:09 PM ET #229

     

    HERE IS A SNAPSHOT OF RECENT WEEKLY DATA THAT CAME OUT TODAY. BASED ON THIS DATA WHY WOULD ANY GOVERNMENT STAND FIRM ON MANDATED VACCINATIONS?

    Minnesota's weekly covid breakthrough case data. This data is for the week of Jan 16th;

                             CASES.       HOSPITALIZATIONS.                DEATHS

    UNVACCINATED.   20591.                     715.                           64

    VACCINATED.      38683.                    756.                            75

    3,739,833 ARE VACCINATED,  1,899,799 ARE UNVACCINATED

    AS SOME LIKE CASES PER 100,000 PER GROUP I CONVERTED THE ABOVE NUMBERS.

                  CASES.               HOSPITALIZATIONS.                DEATHS

    UNVACCINATED. 1084 PER 100,000.      37.6 PER 100,000.                     3.369 PER 100,000

    VACCINATED.      1026 PER 100,000.       20.2 PER 100,000.                   2.01 PER 100,000

    Minnesota college basketball; starting Jan 26th,  If you want to attend a game you must prove your not carrying covid with a negative test.....unless your vaccinated, just show your card, your clean! Do the above numbers backup this requirement? confused

    THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI FROM JAN 12 TO FEB 8 HAD 39.5% OF COVID DEATHS WERE THE VACCINATED. THEY WERE 50% VAXED IN THAT STATE.

     

     

    Reply

     

    HERE IS A SNAPSHOT OF RECENT WEEKLY DATA THAT CAME OUT TODAY. BASED ON THIS DATA WHY WOULD ANY GOVERNMENT STAND FIRM ON MANDATED VACCINATIONS?

    Minnesota's weekly covid breakthrough case data. This data is for the week of Jan 16th;

                             CASES.       HOSPITALIZATIONS.                DEATHS

    UNVACCINATED.   20591.                     715.                           64

    VACCINATED.      38683.                    756.                            75

    3,739,833 ARE VACCINATED,  1,899,799 ARE UNVACCINATED

    AS SOME LIKE CASES PER 100,000 PER GROUP I CONVERTED THE ABOVE NUMBERS.

                  CASES.               HOSPITALIZATIONS.                DEATHS

    UNVACCINATED. 1084 PER 100,000.      37.6 PER 100,000.                     3.369 PER 100,000

    VACCINATED.      1026 PER 100,000.       20.2 PER 100,000.                   2.01 PER 100,000

    Minnesota college basketball; starting Jan 26th,  If you want to attend a game you must prove your not carrying covid with a negative test.....unless your vaccinated, just show your card, your clean! Do the above numbers backup this requirement? confused

    THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI FROM JAN 12 TO FEB 8 HAD 39.5% OF COVID DEATHS WERE THE VACCINATED. THEY WERE 50% VAXED IN THAT STATE.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2022 - 7:13 PM ET #230

    The State of Florida issued 35,000 vaccine dosages last week.

    Wonder what changed their minds to get the vaccine?

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    The State of Florida issued 35,000 vaccine dosages last week.

    Wonder what changed their minds to get the vaccine?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2022 - 9:15 PM ET #231

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN.

    Boy, your an impatient little booger aren't you. I've been watching The Secret Life of the Cruise on Prime & haven't been refreshing Covers every 2 minutes unlike others in here.

      That was your buddy 3rdeye who mentioned UN soldiers being shipped to Canada which was total bullshit.

    As far as you're concerned, you insinuated our Pentagon didn't have "exceptional detail" of Russia's invasion plans while providing no proof to the contrary.

    The vaccines have outlived their usefulness which is also bullshit. People are still lining up for the vaccine while another booster shot is in the works.

    You continuously post individual state data regarding the virus which is far from reliable but that doesn't stop you.

    You quote unnamed Ottawa police supposedly bragging about roughing up people but when someone else mention info from a "reliable source" you question who it is. You can't have it both ways bro.

    I've got more but what's the use. Back to the documentary...

     

     

                   an_light

    The story reported on social media and mentioned on Fox News  and OAN about the UN supposedly sending troops to Canada upon request by Trudeau was in fact total BS

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN.

    Boy, your an impatient little booger aren't you. I've been watching The Secret Life of the Cruise on Prime & haven't been refreshing Covers every 2 minutes unlike others in here.

      That was your buddy 3rdeye who mentioned UN soldiers being shipped to Canada which was total bullshit.

    As far as you're concerned, you insinuated our Pentagon didn't have "exceptional detail" of Russia's invasion plans while providing no proof to the contrary.

    The vaccines have outlived their usefulness which is also bullshit. People are still lining up for the vaccine while another booster shot is in the works.

    You continuously post individual state data regarding the virus which is far from reliable but that doesn't stop you.

    You quote unnamed Ottawa police supposedly bragging about roughing up people but when someone else mention info from a "reliable source" you question who it is. You can't have it both ways bro.

    I've got more but what's the use. Back to the documentary...

     

     

                   an_light

    The story reported on social media and mentioned on Fox News  and OAN about the UN supposedly sending troops to Canada upon request by Trudeau was in fact total BS

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2022 - 2:32 AM ET #232

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    The State of Florida issued 35,000 vaccine dosages last week. Wonder what changed their minds to get the vaccine?

    an_roll_laughCherry picking the news. Full story; Meanwhile, vaccinations have stalled across Florida. The state set a new low last week with fewer than 35,000 residents receiving a shot, with about half of those getting their first shot. 

    If the 17,000 who got their first shot actually saw the ACTUAL DATA instead of lying misinformation................

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    The State of Florida issued 35,000 vaccine dosages last week. Wonder what changed their minds to get the vaccine?

    an_roll_laughCherry picking the news. Full story; Meanwhile, vaccinations have stalled across Florida. The state set a new low last week with fewer than 35,000 residents receiving a shot, with about half of those getting their first shot. 

    If the 17,000 who got their first shot actually saw the ACTUAL DATA instead of lying misinformation................

     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2022 - 3:18 AM ET #233

    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:

    there have been  thousands of injuries reported and the worst is yet to come,....and historically the under reporting of vaccine injuries..... problem is that none of it will ever be investigated so no causality can ever be proven ..... ZERO LIABILITY and ZERO proof of efficacy through trial data..... the inflated global death rates and injuries being now reported by insurance companies..... if you are young and healthy  then you were never at much risk  from the virus and when there is OBVIOUS RISK ,from the unproven experimental "vaccine" ....  vaccine didnt work as expected..,DOESNT stop transmission,DOESNT work beyond a few months and DOESNT adapt to any variation/mutation...its basically useless

    Anti-vaxers misuse data from Vaccine adverse event reporting system to exaggerate deaths and injuries from vaccines.  VAERS disclaimer warns that reports are unreliable.  After investigations, only a tiny fraction of injuries are real or linked to vaccination.  Serious side effects are very rare.  Most people experience minor discomfort within a few days.  Historically, no vaccine side effect has ever occurred beyond two months.  Since vaccine benefits far outweigh risks, countries protect vaccine makers by compensating for injuries but most claims fail.  Insurance isn't denied to vaccinated people.  Excess deaths are caused by the pandemic and not from vaccines. 

    Even young and healthy people are vulnerable.  Vast majority of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur in unvaccinated population.  Approved vaccines must pass safety and efficacy requirements of countries.  This has been confirmed by clinical trials involving thousands of people and billions of vaccinations worldwide.  Actually, vaccines have worked better than expected even against variants.  According to Commonwealth fund, over one million deaths and millions of hospitalizations have been prevented in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:

    there have been  thousands of injuries reported and the worst is yet to come,....and historically the under reporting of vaccine injuries..... problem is that none of it will ever be investigated so no causality can ever be proven ..... ZERO LIABILITY and ZERO proof of efficacy through trial data..... the inflated global death rates and injuries being now reported by insurance companies..... if you are young and healthy  then you were never at much risk  from the virus and when there is OBVIOUS RISK ,from the unproven experimental "vaccine" ....  vaccine didnt work as expected..,DOESNT stop transmission,DOESNT work beyond a few months and DOESNT adapt to any variation/mutation...its basically useless

    Anti-vaxers misuse data from Vaccine adverse event reporting system to exaggerate deaths and injuries from vaccines.  VAERS disclaimer warns that reports are unreliable.  After investigations, only a tiny fraction of injuries are real or linked to vaccination.  Serious side effects are very rare.  Most people experience minor discomfort within a few days.  Historically, no vaccine side effect has ever occurred beyond two months.  Since vaccine benefits far outweigh risks, countries protect vaccine makers by compensating for injuries but most claims fail.  Insurance isn't denied to vaccinated people.  Excess deaths are caused by the pandemic and not from vaccines. 

    Even young and healthy people are vulnerable.  Vast majority of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur in unvaccinated population.  Approved vaccines must pass safety and efficacy requirements of countries.  This has been confirmed by clinical trials involving thousands of people and billions of vaccinations worldwide.  Actually, vaccines have worked better than expected even against variants.  According to Commonwealth fund, over one million deaths and millions of hospitalizations have been prevented in the US.

     
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     I agree that many deaths may have been caused by virus after effects. But I also have huge concerns that heart issues could result from vaccinations especially in young men

    The United States has a history of rarely compensating those with claims.

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     I agree that many deaths may have been caused by virus after effects. But I also have huge concerns that heart issues could result from vaccinations especially in young men

    The United States has a history of rarely compensating those with claims.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Anti-vaxers misuse data from Vaccine adverse event reporting system to exaggerate deaths and injuries from vaccines.

    VAERS disclaimer warns that reports are unreliable.

    After investigations, only a tiny fraction of injuries are real or linked to vaccination. Serious side effects are very rare. Most people experience minor discomfort within a few days. Historically, no vaccine side effect has ever occurred beyond two months. Since vaccine benefits far outweigh risks, countries protect vaccine makers by compensating for injuries but most claims fail. Insurance isn't denied to vaccinated people. Excess deaths are caused by the pandemic and not from vaccines.

    100% factual Thirdperson!  thumbs_up

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Anti-vaxers misuse data from Vaccine adverse event reporting system to exaggerate deaths and injuries from vaccines.

    VAERS disclaimer warns that reports are unreliable.

    After investigations, only a tiny fraction of injuries are real or linked to vaccination. Serious side effects are very rare. Most people experience minor discomfort within a few days. Historically, no vaccine side effect has ever occurred beyond two months. Since vaccine benefits far outweigh risks, countries protect vaccine makers by compensating for injuries but most claims fail. Insurance isn't denied to vaccinated people. Excess deaths are caused by the pandemic and not from vaccines.

    100% factual Thirdperson!  thumbs_up

     
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    The biggest REAL PROBLEM is main stream media and lying politicians have eroded any trust. From bounties on the military, a laptop being Russian misinformation, border agents on horseback whipping people, to fraudulent FISA warrants to attack a President. All blatant lies.

    It is no wonder so many totally distrust today's government and government health organizations.

    I know I distrust them. 

    I have a 13 yr old French Bulldog. As a young dog, this dog had adverse reactions to vaccinations. Swelling, vomiting occurred. Now she has skin tumors on two areas where the shots when in. One grows to the size of a ping-pong ball, scabbed's over and falls off only to regrow again. About a 1.5 yr cycle. I have had several dogs over the years and never saw this before.

    So,yes, no reason to think some people will have adverse reactions and some that could linger a lifetime. THAT IS WHY IT IS WRONG TO MAKE IT MANDATORY, besides the current data showing the virus now easily infects the vaccinated. THERE IS NO GREATER GOOD VACCINATING EVERYONE, as the Premier of Ontario said; you can get 10 jabs and still get covid.

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    The biggest REAL PROBLEM is main stream media and lying politicians have eroded any trust. From bounties on the military, a laptop being Russian misinformation, border agents on horseback whipping people, to fraudulent FISA warrants to attack a President. All blatant lies.

    It is no wonder so many totally distrust today's government and government health organizations.

    I know I distrust them. 

    I have a 13 yr old French Bulldog. As a young dog, this dog had adverse reactions to vaccinations. Swelling, vomiting occurred. Now she has skin tumors on two areas where the shots when in. One grows to the size of a ping-pong ball, scabbed's over and falls off only to regrow again. About a 1.5 yr cycle. I have had several dogs over the years and never saw this before.

    So,yes, no reason to think some people will have adverse reactions and some that could linger a lifetime. THAT IS WHY IT IS WRONG TO MAKE IT MANDATORY, besides the current data showing the virus now easily infects the vaccinated. THERE IS NO GREATER GOOD VACCINATING EVERYONE, as the Premier of Ontario said; you can get 10 jabs and still get covid.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:   vaccine didnt work as expected..,DOESNT stop transmission,DOESNT work beyond a few months and DOESNT adapt to any variation/mutation...its basically useless

     

     

    Anti-vaxers misuse data from Vaccine adverse event reporting system to exaggerate deaths and injuries from vaccines.  VAERS disclaimer warns that reports are unreliable.  After investigations, only a tiny fraction of injuries are real or linked to vaccination.  Serious side effects are very rare.  Most people experience minor discomfort within a few days.  Historically, no vaccine side effect has ever occurred beyond two months.  Since vaccine benefits far outweigh risks, countries protect vaccine makers by compensating for injuries but most claims fail.  Insurance isn't denied to vaccinated people.  Excess deaths are caused by the pandemic and not from vaccines. 

    Even young and healthy people are vulnerable.  Vast majority of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur in unvaccinated population.  Approved vaccines must pass safety and efficacy requirements of countries.  This has been confirmed by clinical trials involving thousands of people and billions of vaccinations worldwide.  Actually, vaccines have worked better than expected even against variants.  According to Commonwealth fund, over one million deaths and millions of hospitalizations have been prevented in the US.

    thx for keeping the record straight with the relevent facts  thirdperson peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:   vaccine didnt work as expected..,DOESNT stop transmission,DOESNT work beyond a few months and DOESNT adapt to any variation/mutation...its basically useless

     

     

    Anti-vaxers misuse data from Vaccine adverse event reporting system to exaggerate deaths and injuries from vaccines.  VAERS disclaimer warns that reports are unreliable.  After investigations, only a tiny fraction of injuries are real or linked to vaccination.  Serious side effects are very rare.  Most people experience minor discomfort within a few days.  Historically, no vaccine side effect has ever occurred beyond two months.  Since vaccine benefits far outweigh risks, countries protect vaccine makers by compensating for injuries but most claims fail.  Insurance isn't denied to vaccinated people.  Excess deaths are caused by the pandemic and not from vaccines. 

    Even young and healthy people are vulnerable.  Vast majority of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur in unvaccinated population.  Approved vaccines must pass safety and efficacy requirements of countries.  This has been confirmed by clinical trials involving thousands of people and billions of vaccinations worldwide.  Actually, vaccines have worked better than expected even against variants.  According to Commonwealth fund, over one million deaths and millions of hospitalizations have been prevented in the US.

    thx for keeping the record straight with the relevent facts  thirdperson peace_5

     
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    If and when a trucker Convoy starts in the United States you will see a big difference. 

    The radical left will attempt to violently engage them every step of the way and the media will blame truckers for the violence just like they blame Trump for everything under the sun.

    an_popcorn

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    If and when a trucker Convoy starts in the United States you will see a big difference. 

    The radical left will attempt to violently engage them every step of the way and the media will blame truckers for the violence just like they blame Trump for everything under the sun.

    an_popcorn

     
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    @UNIMAN

     It didn't start off to well in Pennsylvania this morning as only 1 trucker showed up with 2 flat tires. On his way to DC, 7 other trucks joined him. 

    Is this planned protest about mandates?

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    @UNIMAN

     It didn't start off to well in Pennsylvania this morning as only 1 trucker showed up with 2 flat tires. On his way to DC, 7 other trucks joined him. 

    Is this planned protest about mandates?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN  It didn't start off to well in Pennsylvania this morning as only 1 trucker showed up with 2 flat tires. On his way to DC, 7 other trucks joined him.  Is this planned protest about mandates?

    You wouldn't know. You hate America, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Get lost loser communist propaganda creep.

    Relax. I'm unvaxxed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN  It didn't start off to well in Pennsylvania this morning as only 1 trucker showed up with 2 flat tires. On his way to DC, 7 other trucks joined him.  Is this planned protest about mandates?

    You wouldn't know. You hate America, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Get lost loser communist propaganda creep.

     
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    I don't know who already reported this user but thanks!

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    I don't know who already reported this user but thanks!

    thumbs_up

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet: there have been  thousands of injuries reported and the worst is yet to come,....and historically the under reporting of vaccine injuries..... problem is that none of it will ever be investigated so no causality can ever be proven ..... ZERO LIABILITY and ZERO proof of efficacy through trial data..... the inflated global death rates and injuries being now reported by insurance companies..... if you are young and healthy  then you were never at much risk  from the virus and when there is OBVIOUS RISK ,from the unproven experimental "vaccine" ....  vaccine didnt work as expected..,DOESNT stop transmission,DOESNT work beyond a few months and DOESNT adapt to any variation/mutation...its basically useless Anti-vaxers misuse data from Vaccine adverse event reporting system to exaggerate deaths and injuries from vaccines.  VAERS disclaimer warns that reports are unreliable.  After investigations, only a tiny fraction of injuries are real or linked to vaccination.  Serious side effects are very rare.  Most people experience minor discomfort within a few days.  Historically, no vaccine side effect has ever occurred beyond two months.  Since vaccine benefits far outweigh risks, countries protect vaccine makers by compensating for injuries but most claims fail.  Insurance isn't denied to vaccinated people.  Excess deaths are caused by the pandemic and not from vaccines.  Even young and healthy people are vulnerable.  Vast majority of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur in unvaccinated population.  Approved vaccines must pass safety and efficacy requirements of countries.  This has been confirmed by clinical trials involving thousands of people and billions of vaccinations worldwide.  Actually, vaccines have worked better than expected even against variants.  According to Commonwealth fund, over one million deaths and millions of hospitalizations have been prevented in the US.

     

    lielielienew_poopnew_poopnew_poop

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet: there have been  thousands of injuries reported and the worst is yet to come,....and historically the under reporting of vaccine injuries..... problem is that none of it will ever be investigated so no causality can ever be proven ..... ZERO LIABILITY and ZERO proof of efficacy through trial data..... the inflated global death rates and injuries being now reported by insurance companies..... if you are young and healthy  then you were never at much risk  from the virus and when there is OBVIOUS RISK ,from the unproven experimental "vaccine" ....  vaccine didnt work as expected..,DOESNT stop transmission,DOESNT work beyond a few months and DOESNT adapt to any variation/mutation...its basically useless Anti-vaxers misuse data from Vaccine adverse event reporting system to exaggerate deaths and injuries from vaccines.  VAERS disclaimer warns that reports are unreliable.  After investigations, only a tiny fraction of injuries are real or linked to vaccination.  Serious side effects are very rare.  Most people experience minor discomfort within a few days.  Historically, no vaccine side effect has ever occurred beyond two months.  Since vaccine benefits far outweigh risks, countries protect vaccine makers by compensating for injuries but most claims fail.  Insurance isn't denied to vaccinated people.  Excess deaths are caused by the pandemic and not from vaccines.  Even young and healthy people are vulnerable.  Vast majority of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur in unvaccinated population.  Approved vaccines must pass safety and efficacy requirements of countries.  This has been confirmed by clinical trials involving thousands of people and billions of vaccinations worldwide.  Actually, vaccines have worked better than expected even against variants.  According to Commonwealth fund, over one million deaths and millions of hospitalizations have been prevented in the US.

     

    lielielienew_poopnew_poopnew_poop

     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2022 - 8:02 PM ET #243

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN  It didn't start off to well in Pennsylvania this morning as only 1 trucker showed up with 2 flat tires. On his way to DC, 7 other trucks joined him.  Is this planned protest about mandates?

     

    no     its a MAGA protest  against democratic governance

    they want  donnie chump instead

     

    and so does putin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN  It didn't start off to well in Pennsylvania this morning as only 1 trucker showed up with 2 flat tires. On his way to DC, 7 other trucks joined him.  Is this planned protest about mandates?

     

    no     its a MAGA protest  against democratic governance

    they want  donnie chump instead

     

    and so does putin

     
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     nobody with an actual functioning brain here believes you are real.they dont want you here or like you...as for everybody else,well who cares about them?they are brainless and can be convinced of anything....getting your 5 "buddies" to come in here and echo your complete propagandistic bullshi.t and give your ego a stroke with an upvote is doing NOTHING to convince any actual conscious being of anything you are spewing.

     

    and also LOL!!!!..."excess deaths are caused by the pandemic"...mmm,yep of course .yeah thats right.huge increases reported by insurance companies of up to 30% in most age groups all below 60...yet the "pandemic" kills people with an average age of 80....yeeeup,that adds up.thumbs_upan_roll_laugh

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    @thirdperson

     nobody with an actual functioning brain here believes you are real.they dont want you here or like you...as for everybody else,well who cares about them?they are brainless and can be convinced of anything....getting your 5 "buddies" to come in here and echo your complete propagandistic bullshi.t and give your ego a stroke with an upvote is doing NOTHING to convince any actual conscious being of anything you are spewing.

     

    and also LOL!!!!..."excess deaths are caused by the pandemic"...mmm,yep of course .yeah thats right.huge increases reported by insurance companies of up to 30% in most age groups all below 60...yet the "pandemic" kills people with an average age of 80....yeeeup,that adds up.thumbs_upan_roll_laugh

     
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    fubah,midnight,3rdperson and kelly are one sad,disgusting group of individuals..what a bunch of yummy boys,all posting one after another,CAPITALIZING in ridiculous large font the utter unproven garbage (like that makes a point valid,its about the same as shouting louder and thinking that makes you more correct)and circle-jerking each other with upvotes...pathetic.like a group of 10 year olds thinking they are the "cool kids" just cos they found some others dumb enough to go along with their tripe.

     

    imagine being so dishonest that you comment on claims about vaccine injury reports that are NOT BEING THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATED AT ALL AND ARE IN FACT BEING SUPPRESSED IN A MAJOR WAY and writing the words "100% factual"."great debunk,buddy".

     

    sick,filthy,hateful people.

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    fubah,midnight,3rdperson and kelly are one sad,disgusting group of individuals..what a bunch of yummy boys,all posting one after another,CAPITALIZING in ridiculous large font the utter unproven garbage (like that makes a point valid,its about the same as shouting louder and thinking that makes you more correct)and circle-jerking each other with upvotes...pathetic.like a group of 10 year olds thinking they are the "cool kids" just cos they found some others dumb enough to go along with their tripe.

     

    imagine being so dishonest that you comment on claims about vaccine injury reports that are NOT BEING THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATED AT ALL AND ARE IN FACT BEING SUPPRESSED IN A MAJOR WAY and writing the words "100% factual"."great debunk,buddy".

     

    sick,filthy,hateful people.

     
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    Buh-bye

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    Buh-bye

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:
    there have been  thousands of injuries reported and the worst is yet to come,....and historically the under reporting of vaccine injuries..... ...its basically useless

     

    Anti-vaxers misuse data from Vaccine adverse event reporting system to exaggerate deaths and injuries from vaccines.  VAERS disclaimer warns that reports are unreliable.  After investigations, only a tiny fraction of injuries are real or linked to vaccination.  Serious side effects are very rare.  Most people experience minor discomfort within a few days.  Historically, no vaccine side effect has ever occurred beyond two months.  Since vaccine benefits far outweigh risks, countries protect vaccine makers by compensating for injuries but most claims fail.  Insurance isn't denied to vaccinated people.  Excess deaths are caused by the pandemic and not from vaccines. 

    Those facts are confirmed.  peace_5

    But the same people who believe in the BIG LIE also believe the vaccines are dangerous.

    Odd, considering Trump wants credit and accolades for those same vaccines.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:
    there have been  thousands of injuries reported and the worst is yet to come,....and historically the under reporting of vaccine injuries..... ...its basically useless

     

    Anti-vaxers misuse data from Vaccine adverse event reporting system to exaggerate deaths and injuries from vaccines.  VAERS disclaimer warns that reports are unreliable.  After investigations, only a tiny fraction of injuries are real or linked to vaccination.  Serious side effects are very rare.  Most people experience minor discomfort within a few days.  Historically, no vaccine side effect has ever occurred beyond two months.  Since vaccine benefits far outweigh risks, countries protect vaccine makers by compensating for injuries but most claims fail.  Insurance isn't denied to vaccinated people.  Excess deaths are caused by the pandemic and not from vaccines. 

    Those facts are confirmed.  peace_5

    But the same people who believe in the BIG LIE also believe the vaccines are dangerous.

    Odd, considering Trump wants credit and accolades for those same vaccines.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Those facts are confirmed. But the same people who believe in the BIG LIE also believe the vaccines are dangerous. Odd, considering Trump wants credit and accolades for those same vaccines.

    There it is again. A belief that if your pro- Trump EVERYTHING Trump says MUST SOMEHOW always be followed. Explains a lot here. Where in the face of overwhelming data no matter what, no matter what your eyes and ears see,  these folks strickly following the party line. Like goosestepping nazi's. 

    And when someone speaks their own mind...........puzzlement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

    Those facts are confirmed. But the same people who believe in the BIG LIE also believe the vaccines are dangerous. Odd, considering Trump wants credit and accolades for those same vaccines.

    There it is again. A belief that if your pro- Trump EVERYTHING Trump says MUST SOMEHOW always be followed. Explains a lot here. Where in the face of overwhelming data no matter what, no matter what your eyes and ears see,  these folks strickly following the party line. Like goosestepping nazi's. 

    And when someone speaks their own mind...........puzzlement.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN  It didn't start off to well in Pennsylvania this morning as only 1 trucker showed up with 2 flat tires. On his way to DC, 7 other trucks joined him.  Is this planned protest about mandates?

    I really don't expect much of a protest when Democrat Gov's, especially those running for re- election, have now dropped mandates. Sisolak in Nevada has promised parents voices will be heard on school issues and police budgets will be increased and they need a raise. an_roll_laughElection years, gotta love it.

    I, like most of America do not want to see any roads shutdown by protesters. A peaceful protest OK. But I do kinda want to see it just to see the radical left cause violence and damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @UNIMAN  It didn't start off to well in Pennsylvania this morning as only 1 trucker showed up with 2 flat tires. On his way to DC, 7 other trucks joined him.  Is this planned protest about mandates?

    I really don't expect much of a protest when Democrat Gov's, especially those running for re- election, have now dropped mandates. Sisolak in Nevada has promised parents voices will be heard on school issues and police budgets will be increased and they need a raise. an_roll_laughElection years, gotta love it.

    I, like most of America do not want to see any roads shutdown by protesters. A peaceful protest OK. But I do kinda want to see it just to see the radical left cause violence and damage.

     
     
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    @UNIMAN

     This forum doesn't stop people from saying what's on their minds. Some may jump on your wagon while others don't. For example, you & I have agreed/disagreed on various topics. However, Trump is a lightning rod.

    Trump's values & morals are not mine. I don't like liars or draft dodgers or someone who steals from kids etc. etc.

    One of the problems as I see it, is that pro-Trump fans rarely criticize him & follow him blindly like he is some kind of infallible being.

    I despise him & everyone in his complicit circle.

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    @UNIMAN

     This forum doesn't stop people from saying what's on their minds. Some may jump on your wagon while others don't. For example, you & I have agreed/disagreed on various topics. However, Trump is a lightning rod.

    Trump's values & morals are not mine. I don't like liars or draft dodgers or someone who steals from kids etc. etc.

    One of the problems as I see it, is that pro-Trump fans rarely criticize him & follow him blindly like he is some kind of infallible being.

    I despise him & everyone in his complicit circle.

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