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    The Middle East Will Not Talk to joe!

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    sundance
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 12:42 PM ET #1

    Are you surprised? Saudi Arabia and the UAE refuse to take calls from our illegitimate President! joe and kamala need to import more oil. Saudi Arabia and the UAE refuse to help the United States in their/our time of much need! Will they dump the dollar? The powers in the Middle East know that joe, kamala, Blinken et al are just small time puppets for the leaders of the Deep State entrenched in DC. Who can joe convince in the Middle East to increase their oil production? An oil starved nation patiently waits for an answer as the price of a gallon of gas in the US goes up dramatically each and every day. 

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    Are you surprised? Saudi Arabia and the UAE refuse to take calls from our illegitimate President! joe and kamala need to import more oil. Saudi Arabia and the UAE refuse to help the United States in their/our time of much need! Will they dump the dollar? The powers in the Middle East know that joe, kamala, Blinken et al are just small time puppets for the leaders of the Deep State entrenched in DC. Who can joe convince in the Middle East to increase their oil production? An oil starved nation patiently waits for an answer as the price of a gallon of gas in the US goes up dramatically each and every day. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 12:58 PM ET #2

    we already have an array of divisive threads on the forum but sundance adds another

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    we already have an array of divisive threads on the forum but sundance adds another

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 1:07 PM ET #3

    Why use the word divisive? The proper way to state this is 'difference of opinion.' I am not in lock step with you. Next.  The Middle East will not talk to joe! Please prove me wrong. Also. 81M people did not vote for the daily sheet show delivered from the White House.

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    Why use the word divisive? The proper way to state this is 'difference of opinion.' I am not in lock step with you. Next.  The Middle East will not talk to joe! Please prove me wrong. Also. 81M people did not vote for the daily sheet show delivered from the White House.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 1:41 PM ET #4

    Detox Meds and Unibrow already beat this BS topic to a dead horse and see where they ended up today. It is getting old fast, we get it, you want to see Biden fail. an_light

    This is another useless thread. 

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    Detox Meds and Unibrow already beat this BS topic to a dead horse and see where they ended up today. It is getting old fast, we get it, you want to see Biden fail. an_light

    This is another useless thread. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 2:09 PM ET #5

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     Hopefully, Biden would see that he's failing.  

    I can only imagine when that day will come
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    @sundance

    @DeezyAZ81

     Hopefully, Biden would see that he's failing.  

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 3:30 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Detox Meds and Unibrow already beat this BS topic to a dead horse and see where they ended up today. It is getting old fast, we get it, you want to see Biden fail.  This is another useless thread.

    Let me tell you the definition of a useless thread. The Biden Presidency: Repairing America.....Again

    Repairing America again! Are you kidding me? confused

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Detox Meds and Unibrow already beat this BS topic to a dead horse and see where they ended up today. It is getting old fast, we get it, you want to see Biden fail.  This is another useless thread.

    Let me tell you the definition of a useless thread. The Biden Presidency: Repairing America.....Again

    Repairing America again! Are you kidding me? confused

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 6:20 PM ET #7

    It makes no difference how much oil you pump if you don’t have the REFINERIES to produce the gasoline. 
    Telephone calls are political tools in hope of gaining some sound bites. 

    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    It makes no difference how much oil you pump if you don’t have the REFINERIES to produce the gasoline. 
    Telephone calls are political tools in hope of gaining some sound bites. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 8:37 PM ET #8

    @sundance

     Didn't OPEC announce today plans to ramp up production?

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    @sundance

     Didn't OPEC announce today plans to ramp up production?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 9, 2022 - 9:10 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @sundance  Didn't OPEC announce today plans to ramp up production?

    Alex Jones didn't tell him that so it doesn't count  an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @sundance  Didn't OPEC announce today plans to ramp up production?

    Alex Jones didn't tell him that so it doesn't count  an_light

     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2022 - 12:43 AM ET #10

    Well, say what you will. Joe does not want to use our own oil. 

     

    Can someone tell us why.?.

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    Well, say what you will. Joe does not want to use our own oil. 

     

    Can someone tell us why.?.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2022 - 12:44 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by Placer:

    Well, say what you will. Joe does not want to use Americas oil.    Can someone tell us why.?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Placer:

    Well, say what you will. Joe does not want to use Americas oil.    Can someone tell us why.?.

     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2025 - 1:39 AM ET #12

    Big difference from then to now an_light

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    Big difference from then to now an_light

     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2025 - 3:47 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Big difference from then to now

    Well yeah - but the reason they want you have also changed - they want to be an AI center (so their economy isn’t entirely bound to oil) - so they want to have influence on that industry where you and China leads - and your leader is for sale - so of course they want you there and give expensive gifts to the traitor trying to sell your most precious information and innovation going into the future

    Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Big difference from then to now

    Well yeah - but the reason they want you have also changed - they want to be an AI center (so their economy isn’t entirely bound to oil) - so they want to have influence on that industry where you and China leads - and your leader is for sale - so of course they want you there and give expensive gifts to the traitor trying to sell your most precious information and innovation going into the future

     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2025 - 3:58 AM ET #14

    To say it harsh - Trump is basically trying to sell your future for own gains

    Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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    To say it harsh - Trump is basically trying to sell your future for own gains

     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2025 - 6:28 AM ET #15

    I am not so sure that is a good enough assessment.  Biden could have 'talked' to them as well if the explanation were that easy.  AI is not that new.

    The country I am in, the folks mostly seem favorable about Trump when USA politics come up.  I think most people simply respect a strong leader if they do not know the nuances of that country's politics.

    They do polls on world leaders and the last I saw Trump was 7th.  

    Of course Modi is far and away the leader -- 76%.  Milieu also has a very high favorable rating there.

    But the rest of the top few are pretty decently rated.  Albanese is surprisingly strong, even though they have many issues they need to work on, he has made some strides.  But many folks there are getting somewhat jaded.

    Sheinbaum, Carney, and Keller-Sutter (who is the only European higher than Trump) are all still in a honeymoon phase.  So, I am not sure how their ratings will be in a few months.

    Then you have a nice drop-off to the folks that are consistently below 50% down to 35% -- Meloni, Tusk, Støre, Wever, Sanchéz, Lula de Silva, Schoof.

    But for Trump to essentially trail Modi and Milieu and the three new leaders is a decent sign.  I would not be surprised with the issues Canada and Mexico have that he might pass those two.  He might pass Keller-Sutter if she does not fix their economic slowdown and banking and housing issues they have looming.

    But overall, I think most countries simply respect a strong leader and Trump is that for sure.  You can hear what the other leaders of countries and pundits are saying, even in the Middle East countries.  

    Yes, there are four main things that need to be at the forefront of most developed countries and energy and AI are two of them.  So, yes, there are reasons for the Middle East to talk.  But the reasons have not changed in the last 3-4 years, at least.  They simply did not respect Biden, and Biden and his advisors misunderstood how to talk to them anyway.

    Like the guy over there said the other day, you can tell Trump really just wants peace in the area.

    It does not necessarily have to get results right away.  In the first term it was not immediate.  Then you had the move of the capital in Israel, the Abraham Accords, then more oil. 

    So, it is a good thing that they were receptive to having him visit.  Because he wants to establish a relationship and support with the power players there for several reasons.  To get some settlement with Iran on nuclear goals and terrorist support.  Peel the ME away from China and Russia and bring down the price of oil.  That way he will curtail Putin's, more or less, only source of income.  Then he is attempting to use his Jacksonian-type deterrent on foreign policy. This is antithetical to his base that prefers simple negotiations to any potential hostilities.  The other dichotomy is the oil industry back home prefer the industry to grow.

    Time will tell if he can get results and not frustrate his base at the same time.  But there was far, far more to it than just oil and AI.  So, it is nice to set up a good potential relationship with the leaders in that region.

     

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    I am not so sure that is a good enough assessment.  Biden could have 'talked' to them as well if the explanation were that easy.  AI is not that new.

    The country I am in, the folks mostly seem favorable about Trump when USA politics come up.  I think most people simply respect a strong leader if they do not know the nuances of that country's politics.

    They do polls on world leaders and the last I saw Trump was 7th.  

    Of course Modi is far and away the leader -- 76%.  Milieu also has a very high favorable rating there.

    But the rest of the top few are pretty decently rated.  Albanese is surprisingly strong, even though they have many issues they need to work on, he has made some strides.  But many folks there are getting somewhat jaded.

    Sheinbaum, Carney, and Keller-Sutter (who is the only European higher than Trump) are all still in a honeymoon phase.  So, I am not sure how their ratings will be in a few months.

    Then you have a nice drop-off to the folks that are consistently below 50% down to 35% -- Meloni, Tusk, Støre, Wever, Sanchéz, Lula de Silva, Schoof.

    But for Trump to essentially trail Modi and Milieu and the three new leaders is a decent sign.  I would not be surprised with the issues Canada and Mexico have that he might pass those two.  He might pass Keller-Sutter if she does not fix their economic slowdown and banking and housing issues they have looming.

    But overall, I think most countries simply respect a strong leader and Trump is that for sure.  You can hear what the other leaders of countries and pundits are saying, even in the Middle East countries.  

    Yes, there are four main things that need to be at the forefront of most developed countries and energy and AI are two of them.  So, yes, there are reasons for the Middle East to talk.  But the reasons have not changed in the last 3-4 years, at least.  They simply did not respect Biden, and Biden and his advisors misunderstood how to talk to them anyway.

    Like the guy over there said the other day, you can tell Trump really just wants peace in the area.

    It does not necessarily have to get results right away.  In the first term it was not immediate.  Then you had the move of the capital in Israel, the Abraham Accords, then more oil. 

    So, it is a good thing that they were receptive to having him visit.  Because he wants to establish a relationship and support with the power players there for several reasons.  To get some settlement with Iran on nuclear goals and terrorist support.  Peel the ME away from China and Russia and bring down the price of oil.  That way he will curtail Putin's, more or less, only source of income.  Then he is attempting to use his Jacksonian-type deterrent on foreign policy. This is antithetical to his base that prefers simple negotiations to any potential hostilities.  The other dichotomy is the oil industry back home prefer the industry to grow.

    Time will tell if he can get results and not frustrate his base at the same time.  But there was far, far more to it than just oil and AI.  So, it is nice to set up a good potential relationship with the leaders in that region.

     

     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2025 - 7:07 AM ET #16

    Joe called Putin a soulless murder.

    Joe called Yong Un a thug.

    Joe called Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman "outrageous!" and promised significant changes to US relationship.

    DeezyA called UNIMAN unibrow. an_roll_laugh

     

    Trump did none of the above.

    All these statements were self-serving for political gain and social acceptence. They serve no purpose for our country and push our adversaries into the waiting arms of China. We have now seen the results clear as day. Do you recognize it or do you turn your partisan head and block it out?

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    Joe called Putin a soulless murder.

    Joe called Yong Un a thug.

    Joe called Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman "outrageous!" and promised significant changes to US relationship.

    DeezyA called UNIMAN unibrow. an_roll_laugh

     

    Trump did none of the above.

    All these statements were self-serving for political gain and social acceptence. They serve no purpose for our country and push our adversaries into the waiting arms of China. We have now seen the results clear as day. Do you recognize it or do you turn your partisan head and block it out?

     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2025 - 7:55 AM ET #17

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     Very true peace_5

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    @UNIMAN

     Very true peace_5

     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2025 - 8:34 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    I am not so sure that is a good enough assessment.  Biden could have 'talked' to them as well if the explanation were that easy.  AI is not that new. The country I am in, the folks mostly seem favorable about Trump when USA politics come up.  I think most people simply respect a strong leader if they do not know the nuances of that country's politics. They do polls on world leaders and the last I saw Trump was 7th.   Of course Modi is far and away the leader -- 76%.  Milieu also has a very high favorable rating there. But the rest of the top few are pretty decently rated.  Albanese is surprisingly strong, even though they have many issues they need to work on, he has made some strides.  But many folks there are getting somewhat jaded. Sheinbaum, Carney, and Keller-Sutter (who is the only European higher than Trump) are all still in a honeymoon phase.  So, I am not sure how their ratings will be in a few months. Then you have a nice drop-off to the folks that are consistently below 50% down to 35% -- Meloni, Tusk, Støre, Wever, Sanchéz, Lula de Silva, Schoof. But for Trump to essentially trail Modi and Milieu and the three new leaders is a decent sign.  I would not be surprised with the issues Canada and Mexico have that he might pass those two.  He might pass Keller-Sutter if she does not fix their economic slowdown and banking and housing issues they have looming. But overall, I think most countries simply respect a strong leader and Trump is that for sure.  You can hear what the other leaders of countries and pundits are saying, even in the Middle East countries.   Yes, there are four main things that need to be at the forefront of most developed countries and energy and AI are two of them.  So, yes, there are reasons for the Middle East to talk.  But the reasons have not changed in the last 3-4 years, at least.  They simply did not respect Biden, and Biden and his advisors misunderstood how to talk to them anyway. Like the guy over there said the other day, you can tell Trump really just wants peace in the area. It does not necessarily have to get results right away.  In the first term it was not immediate.  Then you had the move of the capital in Israel, the Abraham Accords, then more oil.  So, it is a good thing that they were receptive to having him visit.  Because he wants to establish a relationship and support with the power players there for several reasons.  To get some settlement with Iran on nuclear goals and terrorist support.  Peel the ME away from China and Russia and bring down the price of oil.  That way he will curtail Putin's, more or less, only source of income.  Then he is attempting to use his Jacksonian-type deterrent on foreign policy. This is antithetical to his base that prefers simple negotiations to any potential hostilities.  The other dichotomy is the oil industry back home prefer the industry to grow. Time will tell if he can get results and not frustrate his base at the same time.  But there was far, far more to it than just oil and AI.  So, it is nice to set up a good potential relationship with the leaders in that region.

     

     

    Advanced AI as we are starting with baby steps now of getting is actually kind of new - and who shall be the innovators of where it should go in the future - is being decided as we speak

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    I am not so sure that is a good enough assessment.  Biden could have 'talked' to them as well if the explanation were that easy.  AI is not that new. The country I am in, the folks mostly seem favorable about Trump when USA politics come up.  I think most people simply respect a strong leader if they do not know the nuances of that country's politics. They do polls on world leaders and the last I saw Trump was 7th.   Of course Modi is far and away the leader -- 76%.  Milieu also has a very high favorable rating there. But the rest of the top few are pretty decently rated.  Albanese is surprisingly strong, even though they have many issues they need to work on, he has made some strides.  But many folks there are getting somewhat jaded. Sheinbaum, Carney, and Keller-Sutter (who is the only European higher than Trump) are all still in a honeymoon phase.  So, I am not sure how their ratings will be in a few months. Then you have a nice drop-off to the folks that are consistently below 50% down to 35% -- Meloni, Tusk, Støre, Wever, Sanchéz, Lula de Silva, Schoof. But for Trump to essentially trail Modi and Milieu and the three new leaders is a decent sign.  I would not be surprised with the issues Canada and Mexico have that he might pass those two.  He might pass Keller-Sutter if she does not fix their economic slowdown and banking and housing issues they have looming. But overall, I think most countries simply respect a strong leader and Trump is that for sure.  You can hear what the other leaders of countries and pundits are saying, even in the Middle East countries.   Yes, there are four main things that need to be at the forefront of most developed countries and energy and AI are two of them.  So, yes, there are reasons for the Middle East to talk.  But the reasons have not changed in the last 3-4 years, at least.  They simply did not respect Biden, and Biden and his advisors misunderstood how to talk to them anyway. Like the guy over there said the other day, you can tell Trump really just wants peace in the area. It does not necessarily have to get results right away.  In the first term it was not immediate.  Then you had the move of the capital in Israel, the Abraham Accords, then more oil.  So, it is a good thing that they were receptive to having him visit.  Because he wants to establish a relationship and support with the power players there for several reasons.  To get some settlement with Iran on nuclear goals and terrorist support.  Peel the ME away from China and Russia and bring down the price of oil.  That way he will curtail Putin's, more or less, only source of income.  Then he is attempting to use his Jacksonian-type deterrent on foreign policy. This is antithetical to his base that prefers simple negotiations to any potential hostilities.  The other dichotomy is the oil industry back home prefer the industry to grow. Time will tell if he can get results and not frustrate his base at the same time.  But there was far, far more to it than just oil and AI.  So, it is nice to set up a good potential relationship with the leaders in that region.

     

     

    Advanced AI as we are starting with baby steps now of getting is actually kind of new - and who shall be the innovators of where it should go in the future - is being decided as we speak

     
     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2025 - 8:58 AM ET #19

    Correct. AI is one of the four, as I said. 
    peace_5

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    Correct. AI is one of the four, as I said. 
    peace_5

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