So the liberals are in another tizzy because Trump said he would be for "stop and frisk"
Expect to hear this complained about for the next 3 days...That's all the libs do---complain.
So hundreds of blacks are killed every day in the inner cities...OH no can't have stop and frisk...We must continue ahead with the same deadly policies...If you are black, a good citizen, and live in dangerous areas of town you would think it would be a good idea for your own safety for the police to do proactive profiling.
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So the liberals are in another tizzy because Trump said he would be for "stop and frisk"
Expect to hear this complained about for the next 3 days...That's all the libs do---complain.
So hundreds of blacks are killed every day in the inner cities...OH no can't have stop and frisk...We must continue ahead with the same deadly policies...If you are black, a good citizen, and live in dangerous areas of town you would think it would be a good idea for your own safety for the police to do proactive profiling.
Isn't he Refering to the stop and frisk come from the no gun zone laws of New York?
I don't think it is a profiling issue here. I know you may want to play the race card and make it one, but stop and frisk also sounds like wanting to take guns out of people's hands and do away with the second Ammendment and enforcing a the no gun zone in New York.
So I could also see the violation of one's personal Rights here to be searched with out real cause. Then you can add the race card to that if it make a better insane rant about liberals since you seem so stuck on that.
So basically we are seeing the spirit of this law as being getting rid of guns and taking rights away from people. Seems kinda like we are going in the unconstitutional route and wanting to limit and strip Americans of their rights. Sounds pretty unamerican independent of the race or partisan issues you might want to unnecessarily spin it towards
Isn't he Refering to the stop and frisk come from the no gun zone laws of New York?
I don't think it is a profiling issue here. I know you may want to play the race card and make it one, but stop and frisk also sounds like wanting to take guns out of people's hands and do away with the second Ammendment and enforcing a the no gun zone in New York.
So I could also see the violation of one's personal Rights here to be searched with out real cause. Then you can add the race card to that if it make a better insane rant about liberals since you seem so stuck on that.
So basically we are seeing the spirit of this law as being getting rid of guns and taking rights away from people. Seems kinda like we are going in the unconstitutional route and wanting to limit and strip Americans of their rights. Sounds pretty unamerican independent of the race or partisan issues you might want to unnecessarily spin it towards
So Jimmy, beyond just the topic. In the bigger picture of trying to get elected and trump being behind in the polls, is this a good move by trump?
Seems like such a silly issue to get headlines about. If trump is trying to gain votes, pissing off anyone including the non-GOP/trump fanboys that you call liberals seems like poor strategy.
Also you predict a negative reaction with African Americans over this issue, considering trump disasterously low appeal to this demographic why would he choose a devicive issue like this to be head lines?
Seems like poor strategy here. Ive aways said as someone who is not voting for Hillary myself that trump needs to earn my vote by selling himself to me. Trump is a businessman and salesman, why wouldn't he being trying to use his experience?
Perhaps it's because he is not able to take his experience and translate it beyond that. Maybe it is because he and his supporters know that trump does not having policies and specific ideas that would all to all Americans, not just sub-groups but benefitting all Americans.
His rhetoric divides and weakens America. i have no idea what trump is doing here or in his campaign as a whole.
So Jimmy, beyond just the topic. In the bigger picture of trying to get elected and trump being behind in the polls, is this a good move by trump?
Seems like such a silly issue to get headlines about. If trump is trying to gain votes, pissing off anyone including the non-GOP/trump fanboys that you call liberals seems like poor strategy.
Also you predict a negative reaction with African Americans over this issue, considering trump disasterously low appeal to this demographic why would he choose a devicive issue like this to be head lines?
Seems like poor strategy here. Ive aways said as someone who is not voting for Hillary myself that trump needs to earn my vote by selling himself to me. Trump is a businessman and salesman, why wouldn't he being trying to use his experience?
Perhaps it's because he is not able to take his experience and translate it beyond that. Maybe it is because he and his supporters know that trump does not having policies and specific ideas that would all to all Americans, not just sub-groups but benefitting all Americans.
His rhetoric divides and weakens America. i have no idea what trump is doing here or in his campaign as a whole.
So Jimmy, beyond just the topic. In the bigger picture of trying to get elected and trump being behind in the polls, is this a good move by trump?
Seems like such a silly issue to get headlines about. If trump is trying to gain votes, pissing off anyone including the non-GOP/trump fanboys that you call liberals seems like poor strategy.
Also you predict a negative reaction with African Americans over this issue, considering trump disasterously low appeal to this demographic why would he choose a devicive issue like this to be head lines?
Seems like poor strategy here. Ive aways said as someone who is not voting for Hillary myself that trump needs to earn my vote by selling himself to me. Trump is a businessman and salesman, why wouldn't he being trying to use his experience?
Perhaps it's because he is not able to take his experience and translate it beyond that. Maybe it is because he and his supporters know that trump does not having policies and specific ideas that would all to all Americans, not just sub-groups but benefitting all Americans.
His rhetoric divides and weakens America. i have no idea what trump is doing here or in his campaign as a whole.
Whatever dl36, you can spin and spin...dissect and slice and dice this issue anyway any you see fit...
We have serious problems in this country that are not getting any better , only worse. We need commonsense solutions...OR ...NOT. Trump is at least projecting he would be willing to look for solutions..
Tough problems require tough solutions.....Trying again a basic police tactic that has been proven to cut crime and death on the streets....It will not please everybody for sure...BIG DEAL.
Get the streets somewhat safe again and this tactic could be put on hold until needed again might be a good idea.
I know you do not live in the inner city dl36....you have a better idea to help get this murderous situation under control?...How would you like it if your neighborhood was full of teenage punks looking for trouble?
I suspect you do not have a clue...So many negative issues facing our future and you continue to rail on Trump for trying to get them fixed.
Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
So Jimmy, beyond just the topic. In the bigger picture of trying to get elected and trump being behind in the polls, is this a good move by trump?
Seems like such a silly issue to get headlines about. If trump is trying to gain votes, pissing off anyone including the non-GOP/trump fanboys that you call liberals seems like poor strategy.
Also you predict a negative reaction with African Americans over this issue, considering trump disasterously low appeal to this demographic why would he choose a devicive issue like this to be head lines?
Seems like poor strategy here. Ive aways said as someone who is not voting for Hillary myself that trump needs to earn my vote by selling himself to me. Trump is a businessman and salesman, why wouldn't he being trying to use his experience?
Perhaps it's because he is not able to take his experience and translate it beyond that. Maybe it is because he and his supporters know that trump does not having policies and specific ideas that would all to all Americans, not just sub-groups but benefitting all Americans.
His rhetoric divides and weakens America. i have no idea what trump is doing here or in his campaign as a whole.
Whatever dl36, you can spin and spin...dissect and slice and dice this issue anyway any you see fit...
We have serious problems in this country that are not getting any better , only worse. We need commonsense solutions...OR ...NOT. Trump is at least projecting he would be willing to look for solutions..
Tough problems require tough solutions.....Trying again a basic police tactic that has been proven to cut crime and death on the streets....It will not please everybody for sure...BIG DEAL.
Get the streets somewhat safe again and this tactic could be put on hold until needed again might be a good idea.
I know you do not live in the inner city dl36....you have a better idea to help get this murderous situation under control?...How would you like it if your neighborhood was full of teenage punks looking for trouble?
I suspect you do not have a clue...So many negative issues facing our future and you continue to rail on Trump for trying to get them fixed.
You're the only one spinning. Playing the race card and making a racial issue and engaging in the typical devicive rhetoric talking liberals and what is even left of the conservative move rb now that trump has high jacked it.
You also cut-and-run from all my questions once again. Too busy ranting on about who knows what...
I've said it before and while I have not lived in an inner city I have worked at clinics in an inner city and with community partners and have had first hand real life experience.
So let's start with your first statement. Can you define the serous problem and explain to me the exact numbers and statistics that supports your statement that the problem
Is getting worse?
Can you answer that?
And to answer your question the problems in inner cutie are complex and have many different factors. Some social, some economic, some cultural, and it is not on government to try to fix it all not is it on police. If you were to look at the overall picture it is such a small drop in the bucket and is in the spirit of limiting rights of Americans both civil and constitutional.
Seems like such a poor choice of strategy in the election. But even that perspective of looking at the bigger picture of the election went over your head.
So let's start simple and basic for you.
Can you define the serous problem and explain to me the exact numbers and statistics that supports your statement that the problem
Is getting worse?
I'm looking forward to your answers and a civil discussion
You're the only one spinning. Playing the race card and making a racial issue and engaging in the typical devicive rhetoric talking liberals and what is even left of the conservative move rb now that trump has high jacked it.
You also cut-and-run from all my questions once again. Too busy ranting on about who knows what...
I've said it before and while I have not lived in an inner city I have worked at clinics in an inner city and with community partners and have had first hand real life experience.
So let's start with your first statement. Can you define the serous problem and explain to me the exact numbers and statistics that supports your statement that the problem
Is getting worse?
Can you answer that?
And to answer your question the problems in inner cutie are complex and have many different factors. Some social, some economic, some cultural, and it is not on government to try to fix it all not is it on police. If you were to look at the overall picture it is such a small drop in the bucket and is in the spirit of limiting rights of Americans both civil and constitutional.
Seems like such a poor choice of strategy in the election. But even that perspective of looking at the bigger picture of the election went over your head.
So let's start simple and basic for you.
Can you define the serous problem and explain to me the exact numbers and statistics that supports your statement that the problem
Is getting worse?
I'm looking forward to your answers and a civil discussion
You're the only one spinning. Playing the race card and making a racial issue and engaging in the typical devicive rhetoric talking liberals and what is even left of the conservative move rb now that trump has high jacked it.
You also cut-and-run from all my questions once again. Too busy ranting on about who knows what...
I've said it before and while I have not lived in an inner city I have worked at clinics in an inner city and with community partners and have had first hand real life experience.
So let's start with your first statement. Can you define the serous problem and explain to me the exact numbers and statistics that supports your statement that the problem
Is getting worse?
Can you answer that?
And to answer your question the problems in inner cutie are complex and have many different factors. Some social, some economic, some cultural, and it is not on government to try to fix it all not is it on police. If you were to look at the overall picture it is such a small drop in the bucket and is in the spirit of limiting rights of Americans both civil and constitutional.
Seems like such a poor choice of strategy in the election. But even that perspective of looking at the bigger picture of the election went over your head.
So let's start simple and basic for you.
Can you define the serous problem and explain to me the exact numbers and statistics that supports your statement that the problem
Is getting worse?
I'm looking forward to your answers and a civil discussion
You answer first.....Why is a proven tactic like stop and frisk a bad idea?
If you are not carrying a gun you go on your way in a few minutes and all is good.
Nobody really likes stop and frisk but it works like a charm to stop needless murders....Just the thought of possibly getting stopped will make many thugs think twice.
So, the question is dl36....Continue on the same path deadly path...OR, hurt a few feelings of the sensitive snowflakes and get the cities cleaned up and looking forward to a brighter future.
Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
You're the only one spinning. Playing the race card and making a racial issue and engaging in the typical devicive rhetoric talking liberals and what is even left of the conservative move rb now that trump has high jacked it.
You also cut-and-run from all my questions once again. Too busy ranting on about who knows what...
I've said it before and while I have not lived in an inner city I have worked at clinics in an inner city and with community partners and have had first hand real life experience.
So let's start with your first statement. Can you define the serous problem and explain to me the exact numbers and statistics that supports your statement that the problem
Is getting worse?
Can you answer that?
And to answer your question the problems in inner cutie are complex and have many different factors. Some social, some economic, some cultural, and it is not on government to try to fix it all not is it on police. If you were to look at the overall picture it is such a small drop in the bucket and is in the spirit of limiting rights of Americans both civil and constitutional.
Seems like such a poor choice of strategy in the election. But even that perspective of looking at the bigger picture of the election went over your head.
So let's start simple and basic for you.
Can you define the serous problem and explain to me the exact numbers and statistics that supports your statement that the problem
Is getting worse?
I'm looking forward to your answers and a civil discussion
You answer first.....Why is a proven tactic like stop and frisk a bad idea?
If you are not carrying a gun you go on your way in a few minutes and all is good.
Nobody really likes stop and frisk but it works like a charm to stop needless murders....Just the thought of possibly getting stopped will make many thugs think twice.
So, the question is dl36....Continue on the same path deadly path...OR, hurt a few feelings of the sensitive snowflakes and get the cities cleaned up and looking forward to a brighter future.
Inner city violence and prison populations are completely out of control. The policy of let me shoot it out and mass incarceration is destroying America if we proclaim land of the free and have the highest per capita prison population obviously this is a contradiction. We claim to have the best health care in the world. Yet we below the top twenty five in life expectancy live birth rates. We claim we have the best military again if spending the most makes you best we won. Reality we are being pummeled on the ground in syria. We claim all kinds of things but reality we spend a ton of.100s and we get less than acceptable results. Education exactly the same bull we have higher standardized test scores cause we made the testing easier. What our ruling elitists have given is lies deceptions.and deceipt. Everything is all washed over rwspoken and twisted to a point that if usa states anything the rest of the world must fact check verify and examine anything cause they understand we the USA government just lies.
If spending money madeus.number 1 we have that honor.hands down but it doesn't take.away from the reality that our cities are war zones. Our police forces are inept fighting crime. We lost the drug war so many years ago that it is actually amusing that the heron crises wasn't assumed a forgone conclusion when big pharmacy rolled out oxycottin and the fda approved it instantly Dr were given trips bonuses perks to push this substances throughout america. Stop and frisk policies profiling have targeted minorities for decades. And it isn't solving the problem. But this is point. We have cameras drones satellites phone hacking capabilities survaliance system like never before. Everything every square foot of every street in any town usa is being recorded. Man drops.a.bomb package within hours.his name is known. Why can we bot use this information to solve.all crimes. Seriously . We could know who what where and how of.every serious crime watching the film. It's about time to unvail what we just spent 175 million for in utah. It's time that we understand that this super computer capabilities that Snowden remarked.of Is operational and give this tool to every police force.in the nation. As for.penal system why can't we reprogram criminals, as an advanced psychological reprogramming programs in counter intelligence agencies have used to turn spies into assets this same.program could turn career criminals.into productive members of society. Finally when an inmate is released to the street a job must be allocated to this individual The entire make up of our have and have not society should end. All services afforded to ending the blood bath is nessasary. How do we with any authority explain to kabul how to create peace in Afghanistan or assad in syria. When we can't have a night without someone being shot or stabbed to death in Chicago. Our system of justice has been hemoraging for many years now. It is time to comprehend that to attack this crises we don't need another band aid plan. We need an entire remodeling of what our laws intended to accomplish and what was the outcome of those policies. So unless you are comfortable with the casualty rates it's time to think how can we turn Paul on his way to Damascus ..... How can we turn criminals into productive members of society.
Inner city violence and prison populations are completely out of control. The policy of let me shoot it out and mass incarceration is destroying America if we proclaim land of the free and have the highest per capita prison population obviously this is a contradiction. We claim to have the best health care in the world. Yet we below the top twenty five in life expectancy live birth rates. We claim we have the best military again if spending the most makes you best we won. Reality we are being pummeled on the ground in syria. We claim all kinds of things but reality we spend a ton of.100s and we get less than acceptable results. Education exactly the same bull we have higher standardized test scores cause we made the testing easier. What our ruling elitists have given is lies deceptions.and deceipt. Everything is all washed over rwspoken and twisted to a point that if usa states anything the rest of the world must fact check verify and examine anything cause they understand we the USA government just lies.
If spending money madeus.number 1 we have that honor.hands down but it doesn't take.away from the reality that our cities are war zones. Our police forces are inept fighting crime. We lost the drug war so many years ago that it is actually amusing that the heron crises wasn't assumed a forgone conclusion when big pharmacy rolled out oxycottin and the fda approved it instantly Dr were given trips bonuses perks to push this substances throughout america. Stop and frisk policies profiling have targeted minorities for decades. And it isn't solving the problem. But this is point. We have cameras drones satellites phone hacking capabilities survaliance system like never before. Everything every square foot of every street in any town usa is being recorded. Man drops.a.bomb package within hours.his name is known. Why can we bot use this information to solve.all crimes. Seriously . We could know who what where and how of.every serious crime watching the film. It's about time to unvail what we just spent 175 million for in utah. It's time that we understand that this super computer capabilities that Snowden remarked.of Is operational and give this tool to every police force.in the nation. As for.penal system why can't we reprogram criminals, as an advanced psychological reprogramming programs in counter intelligence agencies have used to turn spies into assets this same.program could turn career criminals.into productive members of society. Finally when an inmate is released to the street a job must be allocated to this individual The entire make up of our have and have not society should end. All services afforded to ending the blood bath is nessasary. How do we with any authority explain to kabul how to create peace in Afghanistan or assad in syria. When we can't have a night without someone being shot or stabbed to death in Chicago. Our system of justice has been hemoraging for many years now. It is time to comprehend that to attack this crises we don't need another band aid plan. We need an entire remodeling of what our laws intended to accomplish and what was the outcome of those policies. So unless you are comfortable with the casualty rates it's time to think how can we turn Paul on his way to Damascus ..... How can we turn criminals into productive members of society.
You answer first.....Why is a proven tactic like stop and frisk a bad idea?
If you are not carrying a gun you go on your way in a few minutes and all is good.
Nobody really likes stop and frisk but it works like a charm to stop needless murders....Just the thought of possibly getting stopped will make many thugs think twice.
So, the question is dl36....Continue on the same path deadly path...OR, hurt a few feelings of the sensitive snowflakes and get the cities cleaned up and looking forward to a brighter future.
I said early from a civil rights stand point of being searched wih out proper cause and the very spirit of it being gun control sounds both unamerican and unconstitutional. You might be for less rights and freedoms for Americans, I am not.
I also went on to say that it is a bad idea for the trump campaign to highlight this issue.
I have also said that this will not make a difference in the bigger picture. Things do not happen in a vaccum and to think one intervention, especially one like this will make the difference is silly. There are so many things going on and different interventions going on.
See how easy that was rather than running from the question or demanding the other person secondary questions first?
So let's try this again... And I'm starting very easy and we can build from there.
Can you clarify your own statement and define the serous problem and explain to me the exact numbers and statistics that supports your statement that the problem is getting worse?
Looking forward to your straight foward answers to the straight foward questions.
Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:
You answer first.....Why is a proven tactic like stop and frisk a bad idea?
If you are not carrying a gun you go on your way in a few minutes and all is good.
Nobody really likes stop and frisk but it works like a charm to stop needless murders....Just the thought of possibly getting stopped will make many thugs think twice.
So, the question is dl36....Continue on the same path deadly path...OR, hurt a few feelings of the sensitive snowflakes and get the cities cleaned up and looking forward to a brighter future.
I said early from a civil rights stand point of being searched wih out proper cause and the very spirit of it being gun control sounds both unamerican and unconstitutional. You might be for less rights and freedoms for Americans, I am not.
I also went on to say that it is a bad idea for the trump campaign to highlight this issue.
I have also said that this will not make a difference in the bigger picture. Things do not happen in a vaccum and to think one intervention, especially one like this will make the difference is silly. There are so many things going on and different interventions going on.
See how easy that was rather than running from the question or demanding the other person secondary questions first?
So let's try this again... And I'm starting very easy and we can build from there.
Can you clarify your own statement and define the serous problem and explain to me the exact numbers and statistics that supports your statement that the problem is getting worse?
Looking forward to your straight foward answers to the straight foward questions.
I said early from a civil rights stand point of being searched wih out proper cause and the very spirit of it being gun control sounds both unamerican and unconstitutional. You might be for less rights and freedoms for Americans, I am not.
I also went on to say that it is a bad idea for the trump campaign to highlight this issue.
I have also said that this will not make a difference in the bigger picture. Things do not happen in a vaccum and to think one intervention, especially one like this will make the difference is silly. There are so many things going on and different interventions going on.
See how easy that was rather than running from the question or demanding the other person secondary questions first?
So let's try this again... And I'm starting very easy and we can build from there.
Can you clarify your own statement and define the serous problem and explain to me the exact numbers and statistics that supports your statement that the problem is getting worse?
Looking forward to your straight foward answers to the straight foward questions.
I give up dl36....You are right.....This is a civil rights case and I am 100% wrong in thinking stop and frisk might help so many blacks from getting killed.
Anyways, why should I really care what happens to the blacks.....Let them just kill themselves off and raise hell in the inner cities If that's what they want to do.....LET THEM CONTINUE with mass murder ......Really does not affect me yet in the white part of town.
Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
I said early from a civil rights stand point of being searched wih out proper cause and the very spirit of it being gun control sounds both unamerican and unconstitutional. You might be for less rights and freedoms for Americans, I am not.
I also went on to say that it is a bad idea for the trump campaign to highlight this issue.
I have also said that this will not make a difference in the bigger picture. Things do not happen in a vaccum and to think one intervention, especially one like this will make the difference is silly. There are so many things going on and different interventions going on.
See how easy that was rather than running from the question or demanding the other person secondary questions first?
So let's try this again... And I'm starting very easy and we can build from there.
Can you clarify your own statement and define the serous problem and explain to me the exact numbers and statistics that supports your statement that the problem is getting worse?
Looking forward to your straight foward answers to the straight foward questions.
I give up dl36....You are right.....This is a civil rights case and I am 100% wrong in thinking stop and frisk might help so many blacks from getting killed.
Anyways, why should I really care what happens to the blacks.....Let them just kill themselves off and raise hell in the inner cities If that's what they want to do.....LET THEM CONTINUE with mass murder ......Really does not affect me yet in the white part of town.
Anyways, why should I really care what happens to the blacks.....Let them just kill themselves off and raise hell in the inner cities If that's what they want to do.....LET THEM CONTINUE with mass murder ......Really does not affect me yet in the white part of town.
This country has a problem with people drinking and driving. 10,000 people killed each year, 27 each day, 40,000 injured.
Really, the way to deal with it is setting up hundreds of roadblocks in each state. Interstates, quiet roads, etc. Now everyone can leave earlier for where they want to go, but at the very least, we are addressing the problem.
Agree right?
Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:
Anyways, why should I really care what happens to the blacks.....Let them just kill themselves off and raise hell in the inner cities If that's what they want to do.....LET THEM CONTINUE with mass murder ......Really does not affect me yet in the white part of town.
This country has a problem with people drinking and driving. 10,000 people killed each year, 27 each day, 40,000 injured.
Really, the way to deal with it is setting up hundreds of roadblocks in each state. Interstates, quiet roads, etc. Now everyone can leave earlier for where they want to go, but at the very least, we are addressing the problem.
This country has a problem with people drinking and driving. 10,000 people killed each year, 27 each day, 40,000 injured.
Really, the way to deal with it is setting up hundreds of roadblocks in each state. Interstates, quiet roads, etc. Now everyone can leave earlier for where they want to go, but at the very least, we are addressing the problem.
Agree right?
Agree....yes, of course.
Way too many problems in our society need fixing and hardly anything ever gets done....One candidate says this about politicians..." All talk, no action"...
Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:
This country has a problem with people drinking and driving. 10,000 people killed each year, 27 each day, 40,000 injured.
Really, the way to deal with it is setting up hundreds of roadblocks in each state. Interstates, quiet roads, etc. Now everyone can leave earlier for where they want to go, but at the very least, we are addressing the problem.
Agree right?
Agree....yes, of course.
Way too many problems in our society need fixing and hardly anything ever gets done....One candidate says this about politicians..." All talk, no action"...
I give up dl36....You are right.....This is a civil rights case and I am 100% wrong in thinking stop and frisk might help so many blacks from getting killed.
Anyways, why should I really care what happens to the blacks.....Let them just kill themselves off and raise hell in the inner cities If that's what they want to do.....LET THEM CONTINUE with mass murder ......Really does not affect me yet in the white part of town.
Huh? I didn't say that.
All I did was simply answer your questions and was hoping you would answer mine rather than having this weird emotional rant.
It just seems like we think differently about civil and constitutional rights. But I'm still not sure of your point because you are unable to clearly define the problem and show the numbers and stastics behind it getting worse. I get that you may feel emotionally about trump but I guess I'm lookin to see the actual information behind your view to ascertain if this thread and your view was informed or an emotional low information view. Seems like I got my answer wih your inability to answer my questions and Provide information.
But as usual I am patient and respectful I am willing to give you another chance to show the forum that you are more than just an emotional low information trump fan-boy. So let's try this again.
Can you clarify your own statement and define the serous problem and explain to me the exact numbers and statistics that supports your statement that the problem is getting worse?
Please respond
Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:
I give up dl36....You are right.....This is a civil rights case and I am 100% wrong in thinking stop and frisk might help so many blacks from getting killed.
Anyways, why should I really care what happens to the blacks.....Let them just kill themselves off and raise hell in the inner cities If that's what they want to do.....LET THEM CONTINUE with mass murder ......Really does not affect me yet in the white part of town.
Huh? I didn't say that.
All I did was simply answer your questions and was hoping you would answer mine rather than having this weird emotional rant.
It just seems like we think differently about civil and constitutional rights. But I'm still not sure of your point because you are unable to clearly define the problem and show the numbers and stastics behind it getting worse. I get that you may feel emotionally about trump but I guess I'm lookin to see the actual information behind your view to ascertain if this thread and your view was informed or an emotional low information view. Seems like I got my answer wih your inability to answer my questions and Provide information.
But as usual I am patient and respectful I am willing to give you another chance to show the forum that you are more than just an emotional low information trump fan-boy. So let's try this again.
Can you clarify your own statement and define the serous problem and explain to me the exact numbers and statistics that supports your statement that the problem is getting worse?
Not sure what court precedent was set in Boston hunt for the bomber . but a blanket warrant was issued These cops were not looking for drugs or guns walk past a key of.coke in Watertown to find.joker tasarnev.
If stop and frisk would only apply to weapons fine but this tool was used to fine and.or.jail anyone with any contraband Including a.30,day sentence handed down for possession of a joint Police must have checks and.balances for anyone given absolute. Authority to conduct warrantless searches will just go on endless fishing expeditions confiscation cell phones weed pipes to a full cavity search for a your free to go. Of we wish to give all agencies TSA authority then live with the constant NAD cops.doing grevious things to common citizens on a daily basis A reprocisions more cops.neomg.gummed.down.in broad.daylight more prison gangs infliemceimv.guards with extortion. Tactics cause we allist sleep somewhere.
Not sure what court precedent was set in Boston hunt for the bomber . but a blanket warrant was issued These cops were not looking for drugs or guns walk past a key of.coke in Watertown to find.joker tasarnev.
If stop and frisk would only apply to weapons fine but this tool was used to fine and.or.jail anyone with any contraband Including a.30,day sentence handed down for possession of a joint Police must have checks and.balances for anyone given absolute. Authority to conduct warrantless searches will just go on endless fishing expeditions confiscation cell phones weed pipes to a full cavity search for a your free to go. Of we wish to give all agencies TSA authority then live with the constant NAD cops.doing grevious things to common citizens on a daily basis A reprocisions more cops.neomg.gummed.down.in broad.daylight more prison gangs infliemceimv.guards with extortion. Tactics cause we allist sleep somewhere.
All I did was simply answer your questions and was hoping you would answer mine rather than having this weird emotional rant.
It just seems like we think differently about civil and constitutional rights. But I'm still not sure of your point because you are unable to clearly define the problem and show the numbers and stastics behind it getting worse. I get that you may feel emotionally about trump but I guess I'm lookin to see the actual information behind your view to ascertain if this thread and your view was informed or an emotional low information view. Seems like I got my answer wih your inability to answer my questions and Provide information.
But as usual I am patient and respectful I am willing to give you another chance to show the forum that you are more than just an emotional low information trump fan-boy. So let's try this again.
Can you clarify your own statement and define the serous problem and explain to me the exact numbers and statistics that supports your statement that the problem is getting worse?
Please respond
I am done with this issue for now...not that important---lets move on to another issue with more "meat"if you will.... dl36.....
Give us low info Trump bots your opinion on this major issue, please..
Immigration...You want more migrants from muslim countries or not?
You want all illegals currently here made citizens...yes...no?
You want in the future any person ...from any country...if they can get to US they can stay and become a citizen....yes---no
Thanking you in advance dl366 for helping to educate us low info persons with your brilliant insight on things like this...
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Huh? I didn't say that.
All I did was simply answer your questions and was hoping you would answer mine rather than having this weird emotional rant.
It just seems like we think differently about civil and constitutional rights. But I'm still not sure of your point because you are unable to clearly define the problem and show the numbers and stastics behind it getting worse. I get that you may feel emotionally about trump but I guess I'm lookin to see the actual information behind your view to ascertain if this thread and your view was informed or an emotional low information view. Seems like I got my answer wih your inability to answer my questions and Provide information.
But as usual I am patient and respectful I am willing to give you another chance to show the forum that you are more than just an emotional low information trump fan-boy. So let's try this again.
Can you clarify your own statement and define the serous problem and explain to me the exact numbers and statistics that supports your statement that the problem is getting worse?
Please respond
I am done with this issue for now...not that important---lets move on to another issue with more "meat"if you will.... dl36.....
Give us low info Trump bots your opinion on this major issue, please..
Immigration...You want more migrants from muslim countries or not?
You want all illegals currently here made citizens...yes...no?
You want in the future any person ...from any country...if they can get to US they can stay and become a citizen....yes---no
Thanking you in advance dl366 for helping to educate us low info persons with your brilliant insight on things like this...
Don't waste your time DL pattern is clear blah blah blah isn't it funny send the cavalry ..... At least djbrow actually understands there could be a problem but DJ swills his beer at the local bar sports a constant I'm a victim pity me approach to life it isn't his fault he was raised by an alcoholic single parent in a ghetto. It wasn't his fault he has mental illness it was society fault.
Don't waste your time DL pattern is clear blah blah blah isn't it funny send the cavalry ..... At least djbrow actually understands there could be a problem but DJ swills his beer at the local bar sports a constant I'm a victim pity me approach to life it isn't his fault he was raised by an alcoholic single parent in a ghetto. It wasn't his fault he has mental illness it was society fault.
I prefer not to have my 4th Amendment rights violated by something like stop and frisk. If you can really make a great case as to what constitutes a reasonable search under these circumstances, please feel free to do so. Apparently the Constitution only matters in certain instances.
I prefer not to have my 4th Amendment rights violated by something like stop and frisk. If you can really make a great case as to what constitutes a reasonable search under these circumstances, please feel free to do so. Apparently the Constitution only matters in certain instances.
For decades, police have been using stop and frisk tactics in big cities. Results have been mixed in reducing crime. Police departments are moving away from controversial searches which unconstitutionally violate minorities rights with rarely any contraband found.
Risk of bad encounters sow resentment or distrust in communities and lead to future riots. Police searches work best when actual crimes are witnessed instead of shaky suspicions of innocent people.
For decades, police have been using stop and frisk tactics in big cities. Results have been mixed in reducing crime. Police departments are moving away from controversial searches which unconstitutionally violate minorities rights with rarely any contraband found.
Risk of bad encounters sow resentment or distrust in communities and lead to future riots. Police searches work best when actual crimes are witnessed instead of shaky suspicions of innocent people.
For decades, police have been using stop and frisk tactics in big cities. Results have been mixed in reducing crime. Police departments are moving away from controversial searches which unconstitutionally violate minorities rights with rarely any contraband found.
Risk of bad encounters sow resentment or distrust in communities and lead to future riots. Police searches work best when actual crimes are witnessed instead of shaky suspicions of innocent people.
Well said
I think stop and frisk should be reserved for only the most serious of threats to the public. Martial law, stuff like that..
it just pisses off too many people, and rightfully so
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
For decades, police have been using stop and frisk tactics in big cities. Results have been mixed in reducing crime. Police departments are moving away from controversial searches which unconstitutionally violate minorities rights with rarely any contraband found.
Risk of bad encounters sow resentment or distrust in communities and lead to future riots. Police searches work best when actual crimes are witnessed instead of shaky suspicions of innocent people.
Well said
I think stop and frisk should be reserved for only the most serious of threats to the public. Martial law, stuff like that..
it just pisses off too many people, and rightfully so
as a white person in today's PC climate I am worried about this being applied to me because rather than it seeming racists the eventual outcome will be to randomly search people like TSA.
You have to understand that with people like trump and supporters I think a part of it is wanting to supersede the constitution while as we have seen on this thread, a lot of it is just igrnorance from a low information point of view.
So rather than admitting trump is wrong in supporting this policy that is in the direction of stripping Americans of constitutional rights through fear tactics and doing away with the policy, the answer will be to just not do it in an overtly racist way. So now everyone will be subject to stop and frisk as a "solution" rather than not instituting the policy in the first place because it would be putting common sense ahead of being a trump fanboy.
This is just the beginning to get a glimpse of what a trump America will look like folks
as a white person in today's PC climate I am worried about this being applied to me because rather than it seeming racists the eventual outcome will be to randomly search people like TSA.
You have to understand that with people like trump and supporters I think a part of it is wanting to supersede the constitution while as we have seen on this thread, a lot of it is just igrnorance from a low information point of view.
So rather than admitting trump is wrong in supporting this policy that is in the direction of stripping Americans of constitutional rights through fear tactics and doing away with the policy, the answer will be to just not do it in an overtly racist way. So now everyone will be subject to stop and frisk as a "solution" rather than not instituting the policy in the first place because it would be putting common sense ahead of being a trump fanboy.
This is just the beginning to get a glimpse of what a trump America will look like folks
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