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    SarasotaSlim
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2019 - 12:00 AM ET #101

    Bernie Sanders labels himself a socialist and calls himself... just a socialist.

    Hear it from the horses mouth ....

    Bernie Sanders "I am a socialist."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_QLek6Qvzg

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    Bernie Sanders labels himself a socialist and calls himself... just a socialist.

    Hear it from the horses mouth ....

    Bernie Sanders "I am a socialist."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_QLek6Qvzg

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2019 - 12:06 AM ET #102

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    A quick definition of social democracy would be a combination of capitalism and socialism.

    By the way we both live in them.

    Not so,, it's socialism in a capitalist framework feeding off the fruits of an economic system that is based on the private ownership ,,not owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    A quick definition of social democracy would be a combination of capitalism and socialism.

    By the way we both live in them.

    Not so,, it's socialism in a capitalist framework feeding off the fruits of an economic system that is based on the private ownership ,,not owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2019 - 12:06 AM ET #103

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Bernie Sanders labels himself a socialist and calls himself... just a socialist.

    Hear it from the horses mouth ....

    Bernie Sanders "I am a socialist."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_QLek6Qvzg


    So, I'm sure you would say you are a capitalist, right ? But you still collect ss, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Bernie Sanders labels himself a socialist and calls himself... just a socialist.

    Hear it from the horses mouth ....

    Bernie Sanders "I am a socialist."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_QLek6Qvzg


    So, I'm sure you would say you are a capitalist, right ? But you still collect ss, right?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2019 - 12:10 AM ET #104

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    So, I'm sure you would say you are a capitalist, right ? But you still collect ss, right?


    You are getting silly now Horse.....I'm going to have to leave you now ..later popcornface...
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    So, I'm sure you would say you are a capitalist, right ? But you still collect ss, right?


    You are getting silly now Horse.....I'm going to have to leave you now ..later popcornface...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2019 - 12:10 AM ET #105

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    from Webster and I 100% positive you are not smarter than Webster


    1: a political movement advocating a gradual and peaceful transition from capitalism to socialism by democratic means
    2: a democratic welfare state that incorporates both capitalist and socialist practices

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    from Webster and I 100% positive you are not smarter than Webster


    1: a political movement advocating a gradual and peaceful transition from capitalism to socialism by democratic means
    2: a democratic welfare state that incorporates both capitalist and socialist practices

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2019 - 12:13 AM ET #106

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    You are getting silly now Horse.....I'm going to have to leave you now ..later popcornface...

    Beauty sleep? Lights off at the home? 


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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:


    You are getting silly now Horse.....I'm going to have to leave you now ..later popcornface...

    Beauty sleep? Lights off at the home? 


     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2019 - 11:05 AM ET #107

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    So, I'm sure you would say you are a capitalist, right ? But you still collect ss, right?
    You are getting silly now Horse.....I'm going to have to leave you now ..later popcornface...

    Waz up with the name calling???

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    So, I'm sure you would say you are a capitalist, right ? But you still collect ss, right?
    You are getting silly now Horse.....I'm going to have to leave you now ..later popcornface...

    Waz up with the name calling???

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2019 - 11:57 AM ET #108

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Where did I say he broke any laws? And no president ever added a trillion+ to the debt with 1 signature. How come you didn't answer my question about being on here when you hate socialism so much? And adding to that I'm sure you don't have insurance, drive on public roads,or use any social programs. By the way do you send half your ss checks back to your former employer since it is a social program? Asking for a friend. 
    Your question:slim, if you hate socialism so much then why are you on a social website?Ha ha ..if you think socialism is being on a social web site ..you have a lot of reading up to do...Socialism..that I referred to in regards to Bernie applies to economic systems,not "socializing"...with people ..lol

    darkhorse, for the life of me, I couldn't understand why the left would embrace socialism...until I read your post equating socialism to social media usage. 

    It is quite possible that the youth of today actually believes, as you do, that socialism is related to twitter and FB. It all makes sense now. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Where did I say he broke any laws? And no president ever added a trillion+ to the debt with 1 signature. How come you didn't answer my question about being on here when you hate socialism so much? And adding to that I'm sure you don't have insurance, drive on public roads,or use any social programs. By the way do you send half your ss checks back to your former employer since it is a social program? Asking for a friend. 
    Your question:slim, if you hate socialism so much then why are you on a social website?Ha ha ..if you think socialism is being on a social web site ..you have a lot of reading up to do...Socialism..that I referred to in regards to Bernie applies to economic systems,not "socializing"...with people ..lol

    darkhorse, for the life of me, I couldn't understand why the left would embrace socialism...until I read your post equating socialism to social media usage. 

    It is quite possible that the youth of today actually believes, as you do, that socialism is related to twitter and FB. It all makes sense now. 

    an_popcornan_popcornan_popcornan_popcornan_popcornan_popcornan_popcornan_popcorn

    Popcorn for the masses.

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2019 - 12:32 PM ET #109

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    You are getting silly now Horse.....I'm going to have to leave you now ..later popcornface...

    Waz up with the name calling???


    It's an enduring name....

    The popcorn face emoticon is Darkhorse's trade mark..is it not ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    You are getting silly now Horse.....I'm going to have to leave you now ..later popcornface...

    Waz up with the name calling???


    It's an enduring name....

    The popcorn face emoticon is Darkhorse's trade mark..is it not ?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2019 - 12:35 PM ET #110

    Funny exchange going on here from one extreme to the other.

    Sanders isnt remotely thinking his extreme/best case platform would ever be reality...so yeah a socialist can modify what they would want to have it work inside our government/economy. Every politician knows compromise and reality exists that nobody gets everything they want. 

    Socialism isnt awful, there are many positives that come in a socialist economy and yet I really dont know of any PURE socialist economy that exists...a real, true, pure socialist economy. Europe is not a true socialist economy. Id say if anything the Amish are probably more socialist than Europe is. 

    Here is how I see the subject...there are some aspects of our economy that the government is likely the best alternative for controlling different things...capitalists are profit driven at their core and many things in an economy cannot be controlled and made into profit based ventures AND be successful. I think medical insurance is one of those areas. If the capitalist model for insurance worked then why does HC inflation outstrip CPI and has for decades? That alone means capitalism has failed in this area. When the capitalist approach fails and costs are not being contained, especially not to the detriment of the consumer then capitalism is not working and a different approach is needed. 

    The government is a LOUSY guardian of pretty much everything and HC is no different, I think much of the reason why the government is lousy at HC is because of capitalist involvement and influence. The way to get HC inflation in check is to prohibit the extortion of the US consumer on behalf of drug companies, hospitals and insurance companies. The US consumer has no rights or say in how costs are determined, there is no natural supply and demand curve because capitalism has destroyed the hand of government in regulation and this the curve is more vertical and inelastic. For costs to come down the government has to put price controls in place and restrict excessive increases and regulate profits in an obviously non-capitalist health care system. We have failed at allowing capitalism to dictate pricing in healthcare, any time a cost center greatly exceeds CPI, capitalism has failed.

    Sanders is far left and some of his ideas are too much but he is right, capitalism isnt working in healthcare and it is to the detriment and death of thousands of citizens...its likely time to have more controls in place and stop allowing the extortion of the US citizen by capitalism.

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    Funny exchange going on here from one extreme to the other.

    Sanders isnt remotely thinking his extreme/best case platform would ever be reality...so yeah a socialist can modify what they would want to have it work inside our government/economy. Every politician knows compromise and reality exists that nobody gets everything they want. 

    Socialism isnt awful, there are many positives that come in a socialist economy and yet I really dont know of any PURE socialist economy that exists...a real, true, pure socialist economy. Europe is not a true socialist economy. Id say if anything the Amish are probably more socialist than Europe is. 

    Here is how I see the subject...there are some aspects of our economy that the government is likely the best alternative for controlling different things...capitalists are profit driven at their core and many things in an economy cannot be controlled and made into profit based ventures AND be successful. I think medical insurance is one of those areas. If the capitalist model for insurance worked then why does HC inflation outstrip CPI and has for decades? That alone means capitalism has failed in this area. When the capitalist approach fails and costs are not being contained, especially not to the detriment of the consumer then capitalism is not working and a different approach is needed. 

    The government is a LOUSY guardian of pretty much everything and HC is no different, I think much of the reason why the government is lousy at HC is because of capitalist involvement and influence. The way to get HC inflation in check is to prohibit the extortion of the US consumer on behalf of drug companies, hospitals and insurance companies. The US consumer has no rights or say in how costs are determined, there is no natural supply and demand curve because capitalism has destroyed the hand of government in regulation and this the curve is more vertical and inelastic. For costs to come down the government has to put price controls in place and restrict excessive increases and regulate profits in an obviously non-capitalist health care system. We have failed at allowing capitalism to dictate pricing in healthcare, any time a cost center greatly exceeds CPI, capitalism has failed.

    Sanders is far left and some of his ideas are too much but he is right, capitalism isnt working in healthcare and it is to the detriment and death of thousands of citizens...its likely time to have more controls in place and stop allowing the extortion of the US citizen by capitalism.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2019 - 4:08 PM ET #111

    WSC. Nice try but as soon as you get into socialism in any regard these boys immediately think "Russia/China" type communism. I will give them one more thought that will get trashed. The U.S.A., from the Declaration of Independence to the Constitution had elements of socialism built in right from the start. Give them 24 hours to digest that, barf it up, and bash the concept, and I may/may not explain. BOL  

    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    WSC. Nice try but as soon as you get into socialism in any regard these boys immediately think "Russia/China" type communism. I will give them one more thought that will get trashed. The U.S.A., from the Declaration of Independence to the Constitution had elements of socialism built in right from the start. Give them 24 hours to digest that, barf it up, and bash the concept, and I may/may not explain. BOL  

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2019 - 5:13 PM ET #112

    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    Your question:slim, if you hate socialism so much then why are you on a social website?Ha ha ..if you think socialism is being on a social web site ..you have a lot of reading up to do...Socialism..that I referred to in regards to Bernie applies to economic systems,not "socializing"...with people ..lol

    darkhorse, for the life of me, I couldn't understand why the left would embrace socialism...until I read your post equating socialism to social media usage. 

    It is quite possible that the youth of today actually believes, as you do, that socialism is related to twitter and FB. It all makes sense now. 

    an_popcornan_popcornan_popcornan_popcornan_popcornan_popcornan_popcornan_popcorn

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    So tell me how social media is different from socialism? 

    You belong to a site, you all contribute with your posts,everyone benefits even members who don't contribute, the site owner provides you with a forum that is paid for with advertising $ 's based on number of posts and membership.

    how is that any different than paying taxes for the benefit of all? 


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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    Your question:slim, if you hate socialism so much then why are you on a social website?Ha ha ..if you think socialism is being on a social web site ..you have a lot of reading up to do...Socialism..that I referred to in regards to Bernie applies to economic systems,not "socializing"...with people ..lol

    darkhorse, for the life of me, I couldn't understand why the left would embrace socialism...until I read your post equating socialism to social media usage. 

    It is quite possible that the youth of today actually believes, as you do, that socialism is related to twitter and FB. It all makes sense now. 

    an_popcornan_popcornan_popcornan_popcornan_popcornan_popcornan_popcornan_popcorn

    Popcorn for the masses.

     

    So tell me how social media is different from socialism? 

    You belong to a site, you all contribute with your posts,everyone benefits even members who don't contribute, the site owner provides you with a forum that is paid for with advertising $ 's based on number of posts and membership.

    how is that any different than paying taxes for the benefit of all? 


     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2019 - 5:58 PM ET #113

    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    WSC. Nice try but as soon as you get into socialism in any regard these boys immediately think "Russia/China" type communism. I will give them one more thought that will get trashed. The U.S.A., from the Declaration of Independence to the Constitution had elements of socialism built in right from the start. Give them 24 hours to digest that, barf it up, and bash the concept, and I may/may not explain. BOL

    Yeah I dont recall that we left Europe because of socialism, rather equal representation and fair taxation..that doesnt sound like a rebuke of socialism, rather a rebuke of a monarch based political system. 

    I am for a modified mixture of socialism with capitalism and if anyone thinks capitalism does not exist in Europe, they are quite wrong.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    WSC. Nice try but as soon as you get into socialism in any regard these boys immediately think "Russia/China" type communism. I will give them one more thought that will get trashed. The U.S.A., from the Declaration of Independence to the Constitution had elements of socialism built in right from the start. Give them 24 hours to digest that, barf it up, and bash the concept, and I may/may not explain. BOL

    Yeah I dont recall that we left Europe because of socialism, rather equal representation and fair taxation..that doesnt sound like a rebuke of socialism, rather a rebuke of a monarch based political system. 

    I am for a modified mixture of socialism with capitalism and if anyone thinks capitalism does not exist in Europe, they are quite wrong.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    WSC. Nice try but as soon as you get into socialism in any regard these boys immediately think "Russia/China" type communism. I will give them one more thought that will get trashed. The U.S.A., from the Declaration of Independence to the Constitution had elements of socialism built in right from the start. Give them 24 hours to digest that, barf it up, and bash the concept, and I may/may not explain. BOL
    Yeah I dont recall that we left Europe because of socialism, rather equal representation and fair taxation..that doesnt sound like a rebuke of socialism, rather a rebuke of a monarch based political system.  I am for a modified mixture of socialism with capitalism and if anyone thinks capitalism does not exist in Europe, they are quite wrong.

    Totally agree & it's finding that perfect recipe of each ingredient for it to work properly. I think everyone could agree that our police, fire departments, libraries, roads, bridges, hospitals exist because of taxpayers, Socialists fought for the 40 hour work week which many don't realize. No doubt there are pros/cons for both ism's but we the people decide what will & will not work.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    WSC. Nice try but as soon as you get into socialism in any regard these boys immediately think "Russia/China" type communism. I will give them one more thought that will get trashed. The U.S.A., from the Declaration of Independence to the Constitution had elements of socialism built in right from the start. Give them 24 hours to digest that, barf it up, and bash the concept, and I may/may not explain. BOL
    Yeah I dont recall that we left Europe because of socialism, rather equal representation and fair taxation..that doesnt sound like a rebuke of socialism, rather a rebuke of a monarch based political system.  I am for a modified mixture of socialism with capitalism and if anyone thinks capitalism does not exist in Europe, they are quite wrong.

    Totally agree & it's finding that perfect recipe of each ingredient for it to work properly. I think everyone could agree that our police, fire departments, libraries, roads, bridges, hospitals exist because of taxpayers, Socialists fought for the 40 hour work week which many don't realize. No doubt there are pros/cons for both ism's but we the people decide what will & will not work.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Yeah I dont recall that we left Europe because of socialism, rather equal representation and fair taxation..that doesnt sound like a rebuke of socialism, rather a rebuke of a monarch based political system.  I am for a modified mixture of socialism with capitalism and if anyone thinks capitalism does not exist in Europe, they are quite wrong.

    Totally agree & it's finding that perfect recipe of each ingredient for it to work properly. I think everyone could agree that our police, fire departments, libraries, roads, bridges, hospitals exist because of taxpayers, Socialists fought for the 40 hour work week which many don't realize. No doubt there are pros/cons for both ism's but we the people decide what will & will not work.  


    Socialists fight for 40 hour work weeks. Successful people who embrace capitalism work much more than 40 hours a week.

    That’s why this country and capitalism is so great. All you got to do is work for it. In a socialist state that glass ceiling is always looming over your head, in America the sky is the limit. You can be whoever you want to be

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Yeah I dont recall that we left Europe because of socialism, rather equal representation and fair taxation..that doesnt sound like a rebuke of socialism, rather a rebuke of a monarch based political system.  I am for a modified mixture of socialism with capitalism and if anyone thinks capitalism does not exist in Europe, they are quite wrong.

    Totally agree & it's finding that perfect recipe of each ingredient for it to work properly. I think everyone could agree that our police, fire departments, libraries, roads, bridges, hospitals exist because of taxpayers, Socialists fought for the 40 hour work week which many don't realize. No doubt there are pros/cons for both ism's but we the people decide what will & will not work.  


    Socialists fight for 40 hour work weeks. Successful people who embrace capitalism work much more than 40 hours a week.

    That’s why this country and capitalism is so great. All you got to do is work for it. In a socialist state that glass ceiling is always looming over your head, in America the sky is the limit. You can be whoever you want to be

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doja45:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Yeah I dont recall that we left Europe because of socialism, rather equal representation and fair taxation..that doesnt sound like a rebuke of socialism, rather a rebuke of a monarch based political system.  I am for a modified mixture of socialism with capitalism and if anyone thinks capitalism does not exist in Europe, they are quite wrong. Totally agree & it's finding that perfect recipe of each ingredient for it to work properly. I think everyone could agree that our police, fire departments, libraries, roads, bridges, hospitals exist because of taxpayers, Socialists fought for the 40 hour work week which many don't realize. No doubt there are pros/cons for both ism's but we the people decide what will & will not work.  
    Socialists fight for 40 hour work weeks. Successful people who embrace capitalism work much more than 40 hours a week.That’s why this country and capitalism is so great. All you got to do is work for it. In a socialist state that glass ceiling is always looming over your head, in America the sky is the limit. You can be whoever you want to be

    Look at the verb tense. I said "fought" not fight. Prior to this, workers were forced to work 48+ hours a week. It wasn't until Henry Ford decided that too many hours were not good for the productivity of his workers. When I was young & an hourly worker, I would gobble up OT anytime it was available. Because of my hard work & absolute brilliance, I was able to retire @ 55.

    Toot toot goes my horn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doja45:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Yeah I dont recall that we left Europe because of socialism, rather equal representation and fair taxation..that doesnt sound like a rebuke of socialism, rather a rebuke of a monarch based political system.  I am for a modified mixture of socialism with capitalism and if anyone thinks capitalism does not exist in Europe, they are quite wrong. Totally agree & it's finding that perfect recipe of each ingredient for it to work properly. I think everyone could agree that our police, fire departments, libraries, roads, bridges, hospitals exist because of taxpayers, Socialists fought for the 40 hour work week which many don't realize. No doubt there are pros/cons for both ism's but we the people decide what will & will not work.  
    Socialists fight for 40 hour work weeks. Successful people who embrace capitalism work much more than 40 hours a week.That’s why this country and capitalism is so great. All you got to do is work for it. In a socialist state that glass ceiling is always looming over your head, in America the sky is the limit. You can be whoever you want to be

    Look at the verb tense. I said "fought" not fight. Prior to this, workers were forced to work 48+ hours a week. It wasn't until Henry Ford decided that too many hours were not good for the productivity of his workers. When I was young & an hourly worker, I would gobble up OT anytime it was available. Because of my hard work & absolute brilliance, I was able to retire @ 55.

    Toot toot goes my horn

    an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2019 - 11:47 PM ET #117

    Good for you and I’m not being facetious. You worked for it so you earned it. Now I’m sure you don’t want anyone to take what you worked for and give it to someone who’s not willing to work for it.

    Just be thankful you live in a country that offers overtime and incentives to work hard. The reason we’ve been the top dog for so long is beachside we simply outwork other countries. China is nipping at our heels but they won’t catch us... The best and brightest are cashing in their chips and fleeing socialism to buy up all the US real estate they can get their hands on. We seriously need to put a lid on that but that’s a topic for another thread 
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    Good for you and I’m not being facetious. You worked for it so you earned it. Now I’m sure you don’t want anyone to take what you worked for and give it to someone who’s not willing to work for it.

    Just be thankful you live in a country that offers overtime and incentives to work hard. The reason we’ve been the top dog for so long is beachside we simply outwork other countries. China is nipping at our heels but they won’t catch us... The best and brightest are cashing in their chips and fleeing socialism to buy up all the US real estate they can get their hands on. We seriously need to put a lid on that but that’s a topic for another thread 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2019 - 11:52 PM ET #118

    And Henry Ford was one of the greatest capitalists in our nations history. Work hard and be compensated. It was also savvy business, his workers earned enough to buy model T’s!
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    And Henry Ford was one of the greatest capitalists in our nations history. Work hard and be compensated. It was also savvy business, his workers earned enough to buy model T’s!
     
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    *because
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    *because
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doja45:

    Good for you and I’m not being facetious. You worked for it so you earned it. Now I’m sure you don’t want anyone to take what you worked for and give it to someone who’s not willing to work for it.Just be thankful you live in a country that offers overtime and incentives to work hard. The reason we’ve been the top dog for so long is beachside we simply outwork other countries. China is nipping at our heels but they won’t catch us... The best and brightest are cashing in their chips and fleeing socialism to buy up all the US real estate they can get their hands on. We seriously need to put a lid on that but that’s a topic for another thread

    Here in Canada we are seeing massive Chinese influx of foreign buyers just scooping up every possible listing in top rated school districts with a click of their international mouse with bully bids up to 500k over asking price sight unseen with zero conditions, all cash upfront and a 7 day close...the houses remain vacant for years until their 16yr old spoiled brats come over to learn english for a year and live in an unfurnished house, with just an air mattress...everything they need to sustain themselves gets delivered by Uber Eats, and on their driveway sits one ferrari for weekdays and a lambo for the weekend club scene...the provincial govts love all this new asian tax grabs so they look the other way while the 1%ers from abroad clean their dirty money...we got the same problems too over here...by 2050, China is going to own both our countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doja45:

    Good for you and I’m not being facetious. You worked for it so you earned it. Now I’m sure you don’t want anyone to take what you worked for and give it to someone who’s not willing to work for it.Just be thankful you live in a country that offers overtime and incentives to work hard. The reason we’ve been the top dog for so long is beachside we simply outwork other countries. China is nipping at our heels but they won’t catch us... The best and brightest are cashing in their chips and fleeing socialism to buy up all the US real estate they can get their hands on. We seriously need to put a lid on that but that’s a topic for another thread

    Here in Canada we are seeing massive Chinese influx of foreign buyers just scooping up every possible listing in top rated school districts with a click of their international mouse with bully bids up to 500k over asking price sight unseen with zero conditions, all cash upfront and a 7 day close...the houses remain vacant for years until their 16yr old spoiled brats come over to learn english for a year and live in an unfurnished house, with just an air mattress...everything they need to sustain themselves gets delivered by Uber Eats, and on their driveway sits one ferrari for weekdays and a lambo for the weekend club scene...the provincial govts love all this new asian tax grabs so they look the other way while the 1%ers from abroad clean their dirty money...we got the same problems too over here...by 2050, China is going to own both our countries.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Quote Originally Posted by Doja45:

    Good for you and I’m not being facetious. You worked for it so you earned it. Now I’m sure you don’t want anyone to take what you worked for and give it to someone who’s not willing to work for it.Just be thankful you live in a country that offers overtime and incentives to work hard. The reason we’ve been the top dog for so long is beachside we simply outwork other countries. China is nipping at our heels but they won’t catch us... The best and brightest are cashing in their chips and fleeing socialism to buy up all the US real estate they can get their hands on. We seriously need to put a lid on that but that’s a topic for another thread
    Here in Canada we are seeing massive Chinese influx of foreign buyers just scooping up every possible listing in top rated school districts with a click of their international mouse with bully bids up to 500k over asking price sight unseen with zero conditions, all cash upfront and a 7 day close...the houses remain vacant for years until their 16yr old spoiled brats come over to learn english for a year and live in an unfurnished house, with just an air mattress...everything they need to sustain themselves gets delivered by Uber Eats, and on their driveway sits one ferrari for weekdays and a lambo for the weekend club scene...the provincial govts love all this new asian tax grabs so they look the other way while the 1%ers from abroad clean their dirty money...we got the same problems too over here...by 2050, China is going to own both our countries.

    Dude, they buy up whole blocks out here. Fuckers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Quote Originally Posted by Doja45:

    Good for you and I’m not being facetious. You worked for it so you earned it. Now I’m sure you don’t want anyone to take what you worked for and give it to someone who’s not willing to work for it.Just be thankful you live in a country that offers overtime and incentives to work hard. The reason we’ve been the top dog for so long is beachside we simply outwork other countries. China is nipping at our heels but they won’t catch us... The best and brightest are cashing in their chips and fleeing socialism to buy up all the US real estate they can get their hands on. We seriously need to put a lid on that but that’s a topic for another thread
    Here in Canada we are seeing massive Chinese influx of foreign buyers just scooping up every possible listing in top rated school districts with a click of their international mouse with bully bids up to 500k over asking price sight unseen with zero conditions, all cash upfront and a 7 day close...the houses remain vacant for years until their 16yr old spoiled brats come over to learn english for a year and live in an unfurnished house, with just an air mattress...everything they need to sustain themselves gets delivered by Uber Eats, and on their driveway sits one ferrari for weekdays and a lambo for the weekend club scene...the provincial govts love all this new asian tax grabs so they look the other way while the 1%ers from abroad clean their dirty money...we got the same problems too over here...by 2050, China is going to own both our countries.

    Dude, they buy up whole blocks out here. Fuckers.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doja45:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Yeah I dont recall that we left Europe because of socialism, rather equal representation and fair taxation..that doesnt sound like a rebuke of socialism, rather a rebuke of a monarch based political system.  I am for a modified mixture of socialism with capitalism and if anyone thinks capitalism does not exist in Europe, they are quite wrong. Totally agree & it's finding that perfect recipe of each ingredient for it to work properly. I think everyone could agree that our police, fire departments, libraries, roads, bridges, hospitals exist because of taxpayers, Socialists fought for the 40 hour work week which many don't realize. No doubt there are pros/cons for both ism's but we the people decide what will & will not work.  
    Socialists fight for 40 hour work weeks. Successful people who embrace capitalism work much more than 40 hours a week.That’s why this country and capitalism is so great. All you got to do is work for it. In a socialist state that glass ceiling is always looming over your head, in America the sky is the limit. You can be whoever you want to be

    Yeah, but's it's nice to get paid overtime when you work more than 40 hours. Just sayin...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doja45:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Yeah I dont recall that we left Europe because of socialism, rather equal representation and fair taxation..that doesnt sound like a rebuke of socialism, rather a rebuke of a monarch based political system.  I am for a modified mixture of socialism with capitalism and if anyone thinks capitalism does not exist in Europe, they are quite wrong. Totally agree & it's finding that perfect recipe of each ingredient for it to work properly. I think everyone could agree that our police, fire departments, libraries, roads, bridges, hospitals exist because of taxpayers, Socialists fought for the 40 hour work week which many don't realize. No doubt there are pros/cons for both ism's but we the people decide what will & will not work.  
    Socialists fight for 40 hour work weeks. Successful people who embrace capitalism work much more than 40 hours a week.That’s why this country and capitalism is so great. All you got to do is work for it. In a socialist state that glass ceiling is always looming over your head, in America the sky is the limit. You can be whoever you want to be

    Yeah, but's it's nice to get paid overtime when you work more than 40 hours. Just sayin...

     
     
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    Darkhore social media is not socialism. One is a political ideology the other is a tool for communication. You say by engaging in social media ipso facto you are embracing socialsm, it doesn't make you a socialist. 

    Your comparison doesn't make any sense really.

    What did you think of the Green New Congresswoman's, Green New Deal? You down with her proposals. 

     

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    Darkhore social media is not socialism. One is a political ideology the other is a tool for communication. You say by engaging in social media ipso facto you are embracing socialsm, it doesn't make you a socialist. 

    Your comparison doesn't make any sense really.

    What did you think of the Green New Congresswoman's, Green New Deal? You down with her proposals. 

     

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