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    Second Trump administration and avian influenza outbreak!

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    joe pockets
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2024 - 11:01 AM ET #1

    How soon till Trump >> Joe Biden and the lunatic left made it ! an_popcorn With RFK Jr driving the Department of Health and Human Services what’s to worry about ! 

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    How soon till Trump >> Joe Biden and the lunatic left made it ! an_popcorn With RFK Jr driving the Department of Health and Human Services what’s to worry about ! 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2024 - 11:46 AM ET #2

    Let's see if this ridiculous thread gets boxed.

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    Let's see if this ridiculous thread gets boxed.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2024 - 10:00 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    How soon till Trump >> Joe Biden and the lunatic left made it !  With RFK Jr driving the Department of Health and Human Services what’s to worry about !

     

    Oh yeah!  "It's all Kamala Harris' fault!!!!!" an_arsed

    Or are the loons back to blaming everything on Joe Biden, again?!

     

    Worldwide high gas prices;  worldwide inflation (which is due to covid recovery and world wide gas prices); and avian flu - I mean sure, why not toss that in there too. 

    The RW lunatics even tried to blame the democrats/Biden admin for the actual hurricanes!!!  Not the football team - the actual weather phenomenon!!! an_roll_laugh

    angry "The evil dems are responsible!!!!"  angry

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    How soon till Trump >> Joe Biden and the lunatic left made it !  With RFK Jr driving the Department of Health and Human Services what’s to worry about !

     

    Oh yeah!  "It's all Kamala Harris' fault!!!!!" an_arsed

    Or are the loons back to blaming everything on Joe Biden, again?!

     

    Worldwide high gas prices;  worldwide inflation (which is due to covid recovery and world wide gas prices); and avian flu - I mean sure, why not toss that in there too. 

    The RW lunatics even tried to blame the democrats/Biden admin for the actual hurricanes!!!  Not the football team - the actual weather phenomenon!!! an_roll_laugh

    angry "The evil dems are responsible!!!!"  angry

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 12:13 AM ET #4

    @StumpTownStu

    Why ?  

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    @StumpTownStu

    Why ?  

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 12:38 AM ET #5

    Some people had blamed the Biden Administration for egg prices spiked, which is mainly caused by the avian influenza. And not for long, Trump will take over the governing, avian flu doesn't care if you are Democrats or Republicans.   

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    Some people had blamed the Biden Administration for egg prices spiked, which is mainly caused by the avian influenza. And not for long, Trump will take over the governing, avian flu doesn't care if you are Democrats or Republicans.   

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 1:20 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @StumpTownStu Why ?

    Well, because it's a ridiculous, pointless thread that doesn't "add value" or "bring about debate". First of all, as of now, we aren't in the midst of an outbreak. However you took the opportunity to make a thread asking, "How long will it be before it's (the nonexistent outbreak) is blamed on the left. Is there any point to a thread like this, or is it just mindless rambling? You don't have to make a thread for every notion that pops into your head.

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @StumpTownStu Why ?

    Well, because it's a ridiculous, pointless thread that doesn't "add value" or "bring about debate". First of all, as of now, we aren't in the midst of an outbreak. However you took the opportunity to make a thread asking, "How long will it be before it's (the nonexistent outbreak) is blamed on the left. Is there any point to a thread like this, or is it just mindless rambling? You don't have to make a thread for every notion that pops into your head.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 1:24 AM ET #7

    Don't forget, poster didn't make it bipartisan so the thread topic should have no value

    Do as I say, Not as I do an_light

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    Don't forget, poster didn't make it bipartisan so the thread topic should have no value

    Do as I say, Not as I do an_light

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 1:40 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Some people had blamed the Biden Administration for egg prices spiked, which is mainly caused by the avian influenza.

    Of course! .....egg prices go up:  "It's all Joe Biden's fault!" an_arsed

     

    And later when the Avian flu breaks out again, and once again egg prices go up, but on the watch of the rapist/fraud/fascist/CONVICTED FELON, will the MAGAs say "it's all trump's fault" ?!?!?    Hell NO!!!   They will spin it (and everything else that happens the next 4 years) to say "It's all the Democrats fault!!!" an_arsed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Some people had blamed the Biden Administration for egg prices spiked, which is mainly caused by the avian influenza.

    Of course! .....egg prices go up:  "It's all Joe Biden's fault!" an_arsed

     

    And later when the Avian flu breaks out again, and once again egg prices go up, but on the watch of the rapist/fraud/fascist/CONVICTED FELON, will the MAGAs say "it's all trump's fault" ?!?!?    Hell NO!!!   They will spin it (and everything else that happens the next 4 years) to say "It's all the Democrats fault!!!" an_arsed

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Some people had blamed the Biden Administration for egg prices spiked, which is mainly caused by the avian influenza. Of course! .....egg prices go up:  "It's all Joe Biden's fault!"   And later when the Avian flu breaks out again, and once again egg prices go up, but on the watch of the rapist/fraud/fascist/CONVICTED FELON, will the MAGAs say "it's all trump's fault" ?!?!?    Hell NO!!!   They will spin it (and everything else that happens the next 4 years) to say "It's all the Democrats fault!!!"

    Political campaign and promises are much easier than governing, Dems could apply the similar egg prices go up scenarios to criticize the Republican administration. Chicken come home to roost, either way. Virus does not care if you are Dem or GOP. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Some people had blamed the Biden Administration for egg prices spiked, which is mainly caused by the avian influenza. Of course! .....egg prices go up:  "It's all Joe Biden's fault!"   And later when the Avian flu breaks out again, and once again egg prices go up, but on the watch of the rapist/fraud/fascist/CONVICTED FELON, will the MAGAs say "it's all trump's fault" ?!?!?    Hell NO!!!   They will spin it (and everything else that happens the next 4 years) to say "It's all the Democrats fault!!!"

    Political campaign and promises are much easier than governing, Dems could apply the similar egg prices go up scenarios to criticize the Republican administration. Chicken come home to roost, either way. Virus does not care if you are Dem or GOP. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 2:47 AM ET #10

    You guys are grasping at straws at this point.

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    You guys are grasping at straws at this point.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 7:59 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    With RFK Jr driving the Department of Health and Human Services what’s to worry about !

    Over 70 Nobel laureates signed a letter urging senate to reject Kennedy as health secretary.  He is a lawyer with no experience in medicine or science.  He is an anti-vaccine activist known for promoting misinformation that endangers public health.  Due to low vaccination rates, preventable diseases are increasing.  For example, whooping cough and measles.  He has threatened to fire hundreds of top talent from Food drug administration and National institute of health despite knowing nothing about their jobs.  So far, California has issued a public health emergency over bird flu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    With RFK Jr driving the Department of Health and Human Services what’s to worry about !

    Over 70 Nobel laureates signed a letter urging senate to reject Kennedy as health secretary.  He is a lawyer with no experience in medicine or science.  He is an anti-vaccine activist known for promoting misinformation that endangers public health.  Due to low vaccination rates, preventable diseases are increasing.  For example, whooping cough and measles.  He has threatened to fire hundreds of top talent from Food drug administration and National institute of health despite knowing nothing about their jobs.  So far, California has issued a public health emergency over bird flu.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 10:32 AM ET #12

    @thirdperson

     From the CDC website.

    Reports of pertussis cases were lower than usual over the past few years, during and following the COVID-19 pandemic. However, the United States is beginning to return to pre-pandemic patterns where more than 10,000 cases are typically reported each year. It's likely mitigation measures used during the pandemic (e.g., masking, remote learning) lowered transmission of pertussis.

     

    In 2024, reported cases of pertussis increased across the United States, indicating a return to more typical trends.

    There is no data supporting the notion that low vaccination rates are leading to an uptick in whooping cough. If anything, and per the CDC's website, we are simply seeing a return to pre-covid era restriction numbers. No lockdowns, no masking, etc.

    Also, measles is still virtually nonexistent in this country.

    So who spreads misinformation, RFK Jr, or you?

    Also, the FDA is highly corrupt. They serve the interest of the food and drug companies. Not us. Many on those boards are paid as consultants for the very companies they are supposed to be regulating. Is that not a conflict of interest?

    The state of emergency in California has to do with the dairy industry. It's a matter of business, not a public health crisis. Are we going yo blame an H1N1 outbreak amongst dairy cattle on those who are anti-vaccine?

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    @thirdperson

     From the CDC website.

    Reports of pertussis cases were lower than usual over the past few years, during and following the COVID-19 pandemic. However, the United States is beginning to return to pre-pandemic patterns where more than 10,000 cases are typically reported each year. It's likely mitigation measures used during the pandemic (e.g., masking, remote learning) lowered transmission of pertussis.

     

    In 2024, reported cases of pertussis increased across the United States, indicating a return to more typical trends.

    There is no data supporting the notion that low vaccination rates are leading to an uptick in whooping cough. If anything, and per the CDC's website, we are simply seeing a return to pre-covid era restriction numbers. No lockdowns, no masking, etc.

    Also, measles is still virtually nonexistent in this country.

    So who spreads misinformation, RFK Jr, or you?

    Also, the FDA is highly corrupt. They serve the interest of the food and drug companies. Not us. Many on those boards are paid as consultants for the very companies they are supposed to be regulating. Is that not a conflict of interest?

    The state of emergency in California has to do with the dairy industry. It's a matter of business, not a public health crisis. Are we going yo blame an H1N1 outbreak amongst dairy cattle on those who are anti-vaccine?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 10:36 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: With RFK Jr driving the Department of Health and Human Services what’s to worry about ! Over 70 Nobel laureates signed a letter urging senate to reject Kennedy as health secretary.  He is a lawyer with no experience in medicine or science.  He is an anti-vaccine activist known for promoting misinformation that endangers public health.

    And so we need a guy like him because Trump insists "only the best!" in his admin

     

    About the same as when he insisted on making Matt Gaetz his loyal AG lapdog

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: With RFK Jr driving the Department of Health and Human Services what’s to worry about ! Over 70 Nobel laureates signed a letter urging senate to reject Kennedy as health secretary.  He is a lawyer with no experience in medicine or science.  He is an anti-vaccine activist known for promoting misinformation that endangers public health.

    And so we need a guy like him because Trump insists "only the best!" in his admin

     

    About the same as when he insisted on making Matt Gaetz his loyal AG lapdog

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 10:51 AM ET #14

    It’s not that I’m unworthy , to circle and jerk and word my schemes , like these hypocritical political sirs that sleep , these illegitimate journeys and dreams , that the nervous and weak burrow into deep in search of relief , because I seek , evolution in it’s highest , form I was born to storm these hordes in their porous environment , like a pirate , call me Willie Stargel , and marvel at my arsenal formed within from particles , as I startle you , with art sharting on the farce that is part and parcel to your “ partisan views “ …..

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    It’s not that I’m unworthy , to circle and jerk and word my schemes , like these hypocritical political sirs that sleep , these illegitimate journeys and dreams , that the nervous and weak burrow into deep in search of relief , because I seek , evolution in it’s highest , form I was born to storm these hordes in their porous environment , like a pirate , call me Willie Stargel , and marvel at my arsenal formed within from particles , as I startle you , with art sharting on the farce that is part and parcel to your “ partisan views “ …..

     
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2024 - 11:28 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: With RFK Jr driving the Department of Health and Human Services what’s to worry about ! Over 70 Nobel laureates signed a letter urging senate to reject Kennedy as health secretary.  He is a lawyer with no experience in medicine or science.  He is an anti-vaccine activist known for promoting misinformation that endangers public health. And so we need a guy like him because Trump insists "only the best!" in his admin   About the same as when he insisted on making Matt Gaetz his loyal AG lapdog

    I'm not an RFK jr guy per se but I find it interesting that someone finally has the balls to call out our unhealthy reliance, obsession even, with prescription drugs, has the balls to call out the food industry for their use of unhealthy additives banned in every other developed nation, stuff that is literally poisoning us, and it's the Democrats that attempt to discredit him. Are we in bizarro world? Just who are you guys trying to protect? Big pharma? The food industry that told us for years that fat was bad but that a balanced breakfast for a growing child consisted of sugary cereal and sweetened orange juice?

    Discredit the messenger in an attempt to discredit the message. RFK jr makes many valid points that we need to address in this country yet all anyone can focus on is him being against unnecessary vaccination.

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: With RFK Jr driving the Department of Health and Human Services what’s to worry about ! Over 70 Nobel laureates signed a letter urging senate to reject Kennedy as health secretary.  He is a lawyer with no experience in medicine or science.  He is an anti-vaccine activist known for promoting misinformation that endangers public health. And so we need a guy like him because Trump insists "only the best!" in his admin   About the same as when he insisted on making Matt Gaetz his loyal AG lapdog

    I'm not an RFK jr guy per se but I find it interesting that someone finally has the balls to call out our unhealthy reliance, obsession even, with prescription drugs, has the balls to call out the food industry for their use of unhealthy additives banned in every other developed nation, stuff that is literally poisoning us, and it's the Democrats that attempt to discredit him. Are we in bizarro world? Just who are you guys trying to protect? Big pharma? The food industry that told us for years that fat was bad but that a balanced breakfast for a growing child consisted of sugary cereal and sweetened orange juice?

    Discredit the messenger in an attempt to discredit the message. RFK jr makes many valid points that we need to address in this country yet all anyone can focus on is him being against unnecessary vaccination.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Trump insists "only the best!" in his admin   About the same as when he insisted on making Matt Gaetz his loyal AG lapdog

     

    Correct observation.

    trump the convicted felon/rapist & fraud prides himself in selecting ONLY THE BEST!

    That included Matt the statutory rapist Gaetz....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Trump insists "only the best!" in his admin   About the same as when he insisted on making Matt Gaetz his loyal AG lapdog

     

    Correct observation.

    trump the convicted felon/rapist & fraud prides himself in selecting ONLY THE BEST!

    That included Matt the statutory rapist Gaetz....

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Let's see if this ridiculous thread gets boxed.

    Come on Stu you know the answer to that one. I will take NEVER for all the money in the world Alex. Ohhhh the double standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Let's see if this ridiculous thread gets boxed.

    Come on Stu you know the answer to that one. I will take NEVER for all the money in the world Alex. Ohhhh the double standards.

     
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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avian_influenza

     

    The disease was first identified by Edoardo Perroncito in 1878.

    Between 1959 and 1995, there were 15 recorded outbreaks of highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) in poultry, with losses varying from a few birds on a single farm to many millions. Between 1996 and 2008, HPAI outbreaks in poultry have been recorded at least 11 times and 4 of these outbreaks have resulted in the death or culling of millions of birds.

    Humans – Avian flu viruses, both HPAI and LPAI, can infect humans who are in close, unprotected contact with infected poultry. Incidents of cross-species transmission are rare, with symptoms ranging in severity from no symptoms or mild illness, to severe disease that resulted in death. As of February, 2024 there have been very few instances of human-to-human transmission, and each outbreak has been limited to a few people.

    2024; DECLARE AN EMERGENCY!!! an_getaway

    Too funny.

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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avian_influenza

     

    The disease was first identified by Edoardo Perroncito in 1878.

    Between 1959 and 1995, there were 15 recorded outbreaks of highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) in poultry, with losses varying from a few birds on a single farm to many millions. Between 1996 and 2008, HPAI outbreaks in poultry have been recorded at least 11 times and 4 of these outbreaks have resulted in the death or culling of millions of birds.

    Humans – Avian flu viruses, both HPAI and LPAI, can infect humans who are in close, unprotected contact with infected poultry. Incidents of cross-species transmission are rare, with symptoms ranging in severity from no symptoms or mild illness, to severe disease that resulted in death. As of February, 2024 there have been very few instances of human-to-human transmission, and each outbreak has been limited to a few people.

    2024; DECLARE AN EMERGENCY!!! an_getaway

    Too funny.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: With RFK Jr driving the Department of Health and Human Services what’s to worry about ! Over 70 Nobel laureates signed a letter urging senate to reject Kennedy as health secretary.  He is a lawyer with no experience in medicine or science.  He is an anti-vaccine activist known for promoting misinformation that endangers public health.

    And so we need a guy like him because Trump insists "only the best!" in his admin  

    About the same as when he insisted on making Matt Gaetz his loyal AG lapdog

    @Zeus4par

     Precisely!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: With RFK Jr driving the Department of Health and Human Services what’s to worry about ! Over 70 Nobel laureates signed a letter urging senate to reject Kennedy as health secretary.  He is a lawyer with no experience in medicine or science.  He is an anti-vaccine activist known for promoting misinformation that endangers public health.

    And so we need a guy like him because Trump insists "only the best!" in his admin  

    About the same as when he insisted on making Matt Gaetz his loyal AG lapdog

    @Zeus4par

     Precisely!

     
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