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    Russia and Japan set to meet to end their 70 year war and peace agreement

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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2019 - 12:27 AM ET #1

    Abe and Putin are set to Meet on the 22nd to produce a settlement to island issues in Northern Japan.

    eace treaty negotiations between Japan and Russia, including on the issue of the Russian-held islands that Japan claims have long been in a state of deadlock.

    Last November, the leaders of the two countries met in Singapore and agreed to speed up talks based on the Joint Declaration in 1956. The agreement states that the islands of Habomai and Shikotan are to be handed over to Japan upon the conclusion of a peace treaty between the two countries. Japan says there is no change to its stance of resolving the issue of sovereignty over the islands, which it refers to as the Northern Territories, and signing a peace treaty.

    Abe will meet Putin in Moscow on Tuesday. Japan will hope they agree on the start of a drafting process for a peace treaty. Tokyo also wants the leaders to reach a broad consensus when they meet again on the sidelines of June's G20 summit in Osaka.

     

    But things aren't expected to go smoothly. The Russian government's remarks indicate a desire to keep Japan in check. Objection is also growing among the public in Russia about the possible handover of the islands. It remains to be seen how the negotiations will proceed.

     

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    Abe and Putin are set to Meet on the 22nd to produce a settlement to island issues in Northern Japan.

    eace treaty negotiations between Japan and Russia, including on the issue of the Russian-held islands that Japan claims have long been in a state of deadlock.

    Last November, the leaders of the two countries met in Singapore and agreed to speed up talks based on the Joint Declaration in 1956. The agreement states that the islands of Habomai and Shikotan are to be handed over to Japan upon the conclusion of a peace treaty between the two countries. Japan says there is no change to its stance of resolving the issue of sovereignty over the islands, which it refers to as the Northern Territories, and signing a peace treaty.

    Abe will meet Putin in Moscow on Tuesday. Japan will hope they agree on the start of a drafting process for a peace treaty. Tokyo also wants the leaders to reach a broad consensus when they meet again on the sidelines of June's G20 summit in Osaka.

     

    But things aren't expected to go smoothly. The Russian government's remarks indicate a desire to keep Japan in check. Objection is also growing among the public in Russia about the possible handover of the islands. It remains to be seen how the negotiations will proceed.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2019 - 1:55 PM ET #2

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    For those that actual bet Politics and have access to England betting markets.

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    for Putin to end up at the kim trump summit.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 21, 2019 - 10:07 AM ET #3

    Moscow Japn Russian heads of state summit 1/22/19.

    prelogue. 

     

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    Moscow Japn Russian heads of state summit 1/22/19.

    prelogue. 

     

     
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    Political analyst and Marxist activist Boris Kagarlitsky argued that the talks were an attempt to ease Japan's sanctions over Crimea and open another destination for corrupt money. 

     

    Russia's wealthy “need a new channel to bring money to Japan and then to the West,” he said

    undreds of Russians have protested talks over giving some of the Kuril Islands back to Japan ahead of a meeting between Shinzo Abe and Vladimir Putin.

     

    Demonstrators chanted “the Kurils are our lands!” and “dismiss the government!” in a park in front of the Russian army theatre in downtown Moscow on Sunday, bundled up against the freezing temperatures. “We'll hand over Putin rather than the Kurils!” one placard read. 

     

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    Political analyst and Marxist activist Boris Kagarlitsky argued that the talks were an attempt to ease Japan's sanctions over Crimea and open another destination for corrupt money. 

     

    Russia's wealthy “need a new channel to bring money to Japan and then to the West,” he said

    undreds of Russians have protested talks over giving some of the Kuril Islands back to Japan ahead of a meeting between Shinzo Abe and Vladimir Putin.

     

    Demonstrators chanted “the Kurils are our lands!” and “dismiss the government!” in a park in front of the Russian army theatre in downtown Moscow on Sunday, bundled up against the freezing temperatures. “We'll hand over Putin rather than the Kurils!” one placard read. 

     

     
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    Russian President Vladimir Putin and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe are holding a joint press conference following talks dedicated to the peace treaty between the countries, as well as regional issues and bilateral cooperation

     

    economic ties between Russia and Japan have expanded in recent years, including in the Far East, amid efforts of the two governments to create the conditions for the signing of a peace treaty.

     

    Last week, Moscow hosted the first round of talks on the conclusion of a permanent peace treaty between Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and his Japanese counterpart, Taro Kono.

     

    source. https://sputniknews.com/world/201901221071705774-putin-abe-kurils-peace-treaty/     (Moscow)

     

     

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    Russian President Vladimir Putin and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe are holding a joint press conference following talks dedicated to the peace treaty between the countries, as well as regional issues and bilateral cooperation

     

    economic ties between Russia and Japan have expanded in recent years, including in the Far East, amid efforts of the two governments to create the conditions for the signing of a peace treaty.

     

    Last week, Moscow hosted the first round of talks on the conclusion of a permanent peace treaty between Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and his Japanese counterpart, Taro Kono.

     

    source. https://sputniknews.com/world/201901221071705774-putin-abe-kurils-peace-treaty/     (Moscow)

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2019 - 10:41 AM ET #6

    13:30 Abe states "we will be cooperating security goals, ...… on North Korea we will be cooperating."

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    13:30 Abe states "we will be cooperating security goals, ...… on North Korea we will be cooperating."

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

     

    Russian President Vladimir Putin and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe are holding a joint press conference following talks dedicated to the peace treaty between the countries, as well as regional issues and bilateral cooperation

    economic ties between Russia and Japan have expanded in recent years, including in the Far East, amid efforts of the two governments to create the conditions for the signing of a peace treaty.

    Last week, Moscow hosted the first round of talks on the conclusion of a permanent peace treaty between Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and his Japanese counterpart, Taro Kono.

     

    source. https://sputniknews.com/world/201901221071705774-putin-abe-kurils-peace-treaty/     (Moscow)


    nature1970, you are aware that Sputnik News is one of the main tools by which the Russian government spreads false information..and anti-Western rhetoric.

    It is nothing more,than an outlet of Kremlin propaganda..
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

     

    Russian President Vladimir Putin and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe are holding a joint press conference following talks dedicated to the peace treaty between the countries, as well as regional issues and bilateral cooperation

    economic ties between Russia and Japan have expanded in recent years, including in the Far East, amid efforts of the two governments to create the conditions for the signing of a peace treaty.

    Last week, Moscow hosted the first round of talks on the conclusion of a permanent peace treaty between Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and his Japanese counterpart, Taro Kono.

     

    source. https://sputniknews.com/world/201901221071705774-putin-abe-kurils-peace-treaty/     (Moscow)


    nature1970, you are aware that Sputnik News is one of the main tools by which the Russian government spreads false information..and anti-Western rhetoric.

    It is nothing more,than an outlet of Kremlin propaganda..
     
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    @slim I utilize it as Russia's state position.

    unlike our free press and constitution, russias has a scape clause.

    nothing can be published wrote or mentioned that the kremlin does not allow.

    it is actually in the Russian constitution.

    same with Xinhua bejiing, Chinese official state position.

    nhk Tokyo, Japans state position. Aljazeera sunni muslims state position ect. ect. 

    probably do not want to think of this but you know this our media Democratic official state position.

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    @slim I utilize it as Russia's state position.

    unlike our free press and constitution, russias has a scape clause.

    nothing can be published wrote or mentioned that the kremlin does not allow.

    it is actually in the Russian constitution.

    same with Xinhua bejiing, Chinese official state position.

    nhk Tokyo, Japans state position. Aljazeera sunni muslims state position ect. ect. 

    probably do not want to think of this but you know this our media Democratic official state position.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2019 - 2:17 PM ET #9

    IN the link you can actually watch the abe and putin speak, tranlated to english Press briefing. 1/22/2019. 

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    IN the link you can actually watch the abe and putin speak, tranlated to english Press briefing. 1/22/2019. 

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 22, 2019 - 2:52 PM ET #10

    see to end the war between Japan and Russia that war declared in 1945. 

    a peace treaty was to be signed. It has not been signed. in negotiations of 1956

    Russia agreed that when the treaty was signed it would release supervision of the japenase island 

    so it was not signed...… here we are with an 8 point (step plan) to a signature .

    Putin stated he does not lie on state television.

    Abe of Japan stated that they will cooperate to this end. he does not lie .

    Mistubishis contract is part of this 8 point plan.

    It centers back in Sweden when the conference for AI block chain manufacturing tangible products convene later in the month.

    when representing parties can conduct sideline working dialogue.

    All gearing for a Vietnam hosted, or South Korean hosted summit near the winter Olympic games venue. in late February. to the armicied signing. and the deep state will do everything possible to remove trump before that signature in my humble opnion….. 

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    see to end the war between Japan and Russia that war declared in 1945. 

    a peace treaty was to be signed. It has not been signed. in negotiations of 1956

    Russia agreed that when the treaty was signed it would release supervision of the japenase island 

    so it was not signed...… here we are with an 8 point (step plan) to a signature .

    Putin stated he does not lie on state television.

    Abe of Japan stated that they will cooperate to this end. he does not lie .

    Mistubishis contract is part of this 8 point plan.

    It centers back in Sweden when the conference for AI block chain manufacturing tangible products convene later in the month.

    when representing parties can conduct sideline working dialogue.

    All gearing for a Vietnam hosted, or South Korean hosted summit near the winter Olympic games venue. in late February. to the armicied signing. and the deep state will do everything possible to remove trump before that signature in my humble opnion….. 

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