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    Perhaps some are starting to get over the Anger stage of an emotional loss

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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2017 - 7:03 AM ET #1

    https://nypost.com/2017/06/24/democrats-warn-party-to-move-on-from-russia-obsession/

    IMO, the best thing the dems can do is to move on from the hate/anger mode that they have been in for the last 6 months. 

    We shall see if the MSM allows this to happen 
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    https://nypost.com/2017/06/24/democrats-warn-party-to-move-on-from-russia-obsession/

    IMO, the best thing the dems can do is to move on from the hate/anger mode that they have been in for the last 6 months. 

    We shall see if the MSM allows this to happen 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2017 - 7:29 AM ET #2

    The Dems are on a mission to take down Trump. So much for the 'peaceful transition of power' . Didn't the Left tell us that elections have consequences?
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    The Dems are on a mission to take down Trump. So much for the 'peaceful transition of power' . Didn't the Left tell us that elections have consequences?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2017 - 9:57 AM ET #3

    I can't see how anyone liked either Clinton or Trump !!!!

    Both are horrible 


    Trump is a Lying disgusting Maggot who is going to kill many Americans with his lack of Health care for 25+ Million ( after promising everyone would be covered ).... 


    Clinton should have been locked up with her husband after all the scamming they did in Arkansas 
    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    I can't see how anyone liked either Clinton or Trump !!!!

    Both are horrible 


    Trump is a Lying disgusting Maggot who is going to kill many Americans with his lack of Health care for 25+ Million ( after promising everyone would be covered ).... 


    Clinton should have been locked up with her husband after all the scamming they did in Arkansas 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 25, 2017 - 10:32 AM ET #4

    i think the answer to this is pretty simple.  there is an investigation pending by perhaps the most qualified and respected person possible to do it.  people can speculate there is nothing to it or it's the crime of the century but unless you are getting regular updates from mueller, it's all speculation.  when mueller is finished, we will see what he and his people have to say.
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    i think the answer to this is pretty simple.  there is an investigation pending by perhaps the most qualified and respected person possible to do it.  people can speculate there is nothing to it or it's the crime of the century but unless you are getting regular updates from mueller, it's all speculation.  when mueller is finished, we will see what he and his people have to say.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2017 - 3:36 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    i think the answer to this is pretty simple.  there is an investigation pending by perhaps the most qualified and respected person possible to do it.  people can speculate there is nothing to it or it's the crime of the century but unless you are getting regular updates from mueller, it's all speculation.  when mueller is finished, we will see what he and his people have to say.


    there was no question. there was one in this whole thread and i dont think your answer is to that. what are u talking about?

    doubleup: undoing that healthcare doesnt happen over night. stop watching mainstream media
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    i think the answer to this is pretty simple.  there is an investigation pending by perhaps the most qualified and respected person possible to do it.  people can speculate there is nothing to it or it's the crime of the century but unless you are getting regular updates from mueller, it's all speculation.  when mueller is finished, we will see what he and his people have to say.


    there was no question. there was one in this whole thread and i dont think your answer is to that. what are u talking about?

    doubleup: undoing that healthcare doesnt happen over night. stop watching mainstream media
     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2017 - 4:09 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    i think the answer to this is pretty simple.  there is an investigation pending by perhaps the most qualified and respected person possible to do it.  people can speculate there is nothing to it or it's the crime of the century but unless you are getting regular updates from mueller, it's all speculation.  when mueller is finished, we will see what he and his people have to say.

    did interpol undertake the investigation?
    or un , hague, or geneva? Mueller is a career deep state appointed stooge. Bush's hate Trump Clinton's hate Trump. 
    Obama hates trump. Muller served under all four. does not mean he will give Trump a clean slate till Trump leaves office. Muller has a blank check and 8 years to conduct a thourough investigation. he could not find his socks if they were sitting in the top drawer of his dresser. 
    he has some one do that for him. A career investigating what?Torture tatics in gitmo? classified, Hillary foundation, not under investigation. Bushes connection to the Bin Laden Family pre 2001? classified. Leaks in government? Comey admitted to leaking that case is going no where. ? Fast and the furious? lolol. executive privilidge to arm mexican cartels. 

    investigate. Powells emails stated more of the type of problems we have here and the sad fact, this is the best nation on earth. that should make you pause for a moment and get some tissues.

    the echo chamber constructed big 0 , that is why leaks are necessary. How did fisa court successfully unmasked 20 million american identities , NSA and independent intelligence gathering firms are leveraging politicians. by use of hacking into the cell phone smart phone and smart tv network, anything at this point plugged into a wall can be now monitored as a reversal in polarity and used as a microphone through the electrical grid array internet computer system being used in UTAH. 

    but to mention that would be devolging a sap and that is what used to be called highly sensitive top secret classification. why?
    why have that machine and not allow Law Enforcement access to it in their jurisdiction. a guess that too is classified, we have brigades of drone craft flying all over usa. but law enforcement still has to fight for traffic cam footage. 

    we have a satellite communication grid space x just added to with its successful falcon 9 rocket launches from California and Florida over the week end the first stage rocket landed successfully on hard decks of ships. barely a peep of this endeavor. 

    some how its trumps tweets or jen McCarthy chacture of spicier, or Kushner's global investment enterprise is the focus of CNN, msnbc, fox news. I learn this through the BBC feed. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    i think the answer to this is pretty simple.  there is an investigation pending by perhaps the most qualified and respected person possible to do it.  people can speculate there is nothing to it or it's the crime of the century but unless you are getting regular updates from mueller, it's all speculation.  when mueller is finished, we will see what he and his people have to say.

    did interpol undertake the investigation?
    or un , hague, or geneva? Mueller is a career deep state appointed stooge. Bush's hate Trump Clinton's hate Trump. 
    Obama hates trump. Muller served under all four. does not mean he will give Trump a clean slate till Trump leaves office. Muller has a blank check and 8 years to conduct a thourough investigation. he could not find his socks if they were sitting in the top drawer of his dresser. 
    he has some one do that for him. A career investigating what?Torture tatics in gitmo? classified, Hillary foundation, not under investigation. Bushes connection to the Bin Laden Family pre 2001? classified. Leaks in government? Comey admitted to leaking that case is going no where. ? Fast and the furious? lolol. executive privilidge to arm mexican cartels. 

    investigate. Powells emails stated more of the type of problems we have here and the sad fact, this is the best nation on earth. that should make you pause for a moment and get some tissues.

    the echo chamber constructed big 0 , that is why leaks are necessary. How did fisa court successfully unmasked 20 million american identities , NSA and independent intelligence gathering firms are leveraging politicians. by use of hacking into the cell phone smart phone and smart tv network, anything at this point plugged into a wall can be now monitored as a reversal in polarity and used as a microphone through the electrical grid array internet computer system being used in UTAH. 

    but to mention that would be devolging a sap and that is what used to be called highly sensitive top secret classification. why?
    why have that machine and not allow Law Enforcement access to it in their jurisdiction. a guess that too is classified, we have brigades of drone craft flying all over usa. but law enforcement still has to fight for traffic cam footage. 

    we have a satellite communication grid space x just added to with its successful falcon 9 rocket launches from California and Florida over the week end the first stage rocket landed successfully on hard decks of ships. barely a peep of this endeavor. 

    some how its trumps tweets or jen McCarthy chacture of spicier, or Kushner's global investment enterprise is the focus of CNN, msnbc, fox news. I learn this through the BBC feed. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2017 - 11:12 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawky:



    there was no question. there was one in this whole thread and i dont think your answer is to that. what are u talking about?

    doubleup: undoing that healthcare doesnt happen over night. stop watching mainstream media


    the question implied by post #1 and the article linked in that post- whether people should or will move on from their anger regarding this russia business. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawky:



    there was no question. there was one in this whole thread and i dont think your answer is to that. what are u talking about?

    doubleup: undoing that healthcare doesnt happen over night. stop watching mainstream media


    the question implied by post #1 and the article linked in that post- whether people should or will move on from their anger regarding this russia business. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 26, 2017 - 8:00 PM ET #8

    IT appears D-Up is a democrat. health care is a privilege....not a right

    Van Jones from CNN{A bigot} called Trump winning a White-Lash

    No Van it was a God-Lash

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    IT appears D-Up is a democrat. health care is a privilege....not a right

    Van Jones from CNN{A bigot} called Trump winning a White-Lash

    No Van it was a God-Lash

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    i think the answer to this is pretty simple.  there is an investigation pending by perhaps the most qualified and respected person possible to do it.  people can speculate there is nothing to it or it's the crime of the century but unless you are getting regular updates from mueller, it's all speculation.  when mueller is finished, we will see what he and his people have to say.


    Club--I'm happy to hear you say that and I really hope you're right. I respect your opinions a great deal and you obviously have considerable knowledge (and probably experience) with our justice system. What worries me is that, over time, I have learned that you shouldn't trust any of these people in DC, particularly the political appointee insiders who have advanced their careers by being " trusted " by the powers that be. I think there is far too much K Street money involved and I am suspicious of all of them. Nevertheless, it would be great for our country if something approaching conclusive were the result of this probe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    i think the answer to this is pretty simple.  there is an investigation pending by perhaps the most qualified and respected person possible to do it.  people can speculate there is nothing to it or it's the crime of the century but unless you are getting regular updates from mueller, it's all speculation.  when mueller is finished, we will see what he and his people have to say.


    Club--I'm happy to hear you say that and I really hope you're right. I respect your opinions a great deal and you obviously have considerable knowledge (and probably experience) with our justice system. What worries me is that, over time, I have learned that you shouldn't trust any of these people in DC, particularly the political appointee insiders who have advanced their careers by being " trusted " by the powers that be. I think there is far too much K Street money involved and I am suspicious of all of them. Nevertheless, it would be great for our country if something approaching conclusive were the result of this probe.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2017 - 10:22 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by 1129ken:



    Club--I'm happy to hear you say that and I really hope you're right. I respect your opinions a great deal and you obviously have considerable knowledge (and probably experience) with our justice system. What worries me is that, over time, I have learned that you shouldn't trust any of these people in DC, particularly the political appointee insiders who have advanced their careers by being " trusted " by the powers that be. I think there is far too much K Street money involved and I am suspicious of all of them. Nevertheless, it would be great for our country if something approaching conclusive were the result of this probe.


    ken, the overwhelming tide of incompetence and corruption in DC is always a concern.  that being said, mueller seems to be as capable and unbiased as anyone could hope for.  vietnam veteran with all sorts of medals, very well educated, served under presidents from reagan to obama, people who have worked for him and with him seem to really like and respect him.  i'm not sure one could do better than him. 

    i know people like to speculate about this russia thing but hopefully people understand that this investigation is in the best hands possible. 




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    Quote Originally Posted by 1129ken:



    Club--I'm happy to hear you say that and I really hope you're right. I respect your opinions a great deal and you obviously have considerable knowledge (and probably experience) with our justice system. What worries me is that, over time, I have learned that you shouldn't trust any of these people in DC, particularly the political appointee insiders who have advanced their careers by being " trusted " by the powers that be. I think there is far too much K Street money involved and I am suspicious of all of them. Nevertheless, it would be great for our country if something approaching conclusive were the result of this probe.


    ken, the overwhelming tide of incompetence and corruption in DC is always a concern.  that being said, mueller seems to be as capable and unbiased as anyone could hope for.  vietnam veteran with all sorts of medals, very well educated, served under presidents from reagan to obama, people who have worked for him and with him seem to really like and respect him.  i'm not sure one could do better than him. 

    i know people like to speculate about this russia thing but hopefully people understand that this investigation is in the best hands possible. 




     
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    Posted: Jun. 27, 2017 - 10:48 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    ken, the overwhelming tide of incompetence and corruption in DC is always a concern.  that being said, mueller seems to be as capable and unbiased as anyone could hope for. 

    i know people like to speculate about this russia thing but hopefully people understand that this investigation is in the best hands possible. 





    Mueller appears to be a decent pick, even though he has strong, significant ties to Comey, who will not only be a witness, but was also fired by Trump

    Unfortunately for the "unbiased" aspect of this, Mueller has hired a team full of liberal/democrat lawyers to work with him on this investigation.

    Elizebeth Prelogar; worked under Ruth Bader Ginsburg and donated to Obama and HRC.

    James Quarles; has donated at least $33,000 to democrats.

    Jeannie Rhee; served in the Obama administration and has donated exclusively to democrats.

    Andrew Weissmann; donated to the Obama campaign, and the DNC.

    There are others.

    I recognize that the left is pleased with the team that Mueller has assembled, but if I were to be investigated for anything, I would like to be comfortable with the idea that all involved were unbiased.
    It does not appear to be the case for the POTUS. 

    bigreds daddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    ken, the overwhelming tide of incompetence and corruption in DC is always a concern.  that being said, mueller seems to be as capable and unbiased as anyone could hope for. 

    i know people like to speculate about this russia thing but hopefully people understand that this investigation is in the best hands possible. 





    Mueller appears to be a decent pick, even though he has strong, significant ties to Comey, who will not only be a witness, but was also fired by Trump

    Unfortunately for the "unbiased" aspect of this, Mueller has hired a team full of liberal/democrat lawyers to work with him on this investigation.

    Elizebeth Prelogar; worked under Ruth Bader Ginsburg and donated to Obama and HRC.

    James Quarles; has donated at least $33,000 to democrats.

    Jeannie Rhee; served in the Obama administration and has donated exclusively to democrats.

    Andrew Weissmann; donated to the Obama campaign, and the DNC.

    There are others.

    I recognize that the left is pleased with the team that Mueller has assembled, but if I were to be investigated for anything, I would like to be comfortable with the idea that all involved were unbiased.
    It does not appear to be the case for the POTUS. 

     
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    again mueller is as good as it gets.  i haven't seen the full list of people mueller is working with and every donation they've made and every person they know or work with.  if that list is out there rather than limited examples of donations to democrats, then i guess we should see it to get the full picture.  but, you just aren't going to get someone with a better resume and more respect than mueller for this kind of thing so i'll trust that he knows what he's doing and is doing it the right way, because this is what he does. 
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    again mueller is as good as it gets.  i haven't seen the full list of people mueller is working with and every donation they've made and every person they know or work with.  if that list is out there rather than limited examples of donations to democrats, then i guess we should see it to get the full picture.  but, you just aren't going to get someone with a better resume and more respect than mueller for this kind of thing so i'll trust that he knows what he's doing and is doing it the right way, because this is what he does. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by packers1992:

    IT appears D-Up is a democrat. health care is a privilege....not a right

    Van Jones from CNN{A bigot} called Trump winning a White-Lash

    No Van it was a God-Lash



    AGAIN BROTHER     PLEASE STOP 


    You can't CALL yourself a CHRISTIAN and ACT AS A  CUCKOLD FOR THE MEGA RICH 

    YOU SOUND LIKE a CHILD MURDERER ...

    Might as well JUST DRONE BOMB some KIDS / SENIORS AND VETS/AMERICANS    WHILE THEY SLEEP IN SELECTED HOODS AND ECONOMIC  CLASSES ....
    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by packers1992:

    IT appears D-Up is a democrat. health care is a privilege....not a right

    Van Jones from CNN{A bigot} called Trump winning a White-Lash

    No Van it was a God-Lash



    AGAIN BROTHER     PLEASE STOP 


    You can't CALL yourself a CHRISTIAN and ACT AS A  CUCKOLD FOR THE MEGA RICH 

    YOU SOUND LIKE a CHILD MURDERER ...

    Might as well JUST DRONE BOMB some KIDS / SENIORS AND VETS/AMERICANS    WHILE THEY SLEEP IN SELECTED HOODS AND ECONOMIC  CLASSES ....
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    again mueller is as good as it gets.  i haven't seen the full list of people mueller is working with and every donation they've made and every person they know or work with.  if that list is out there rather than limited examples of donations to democrats, then i guess we should see it to get the full picture.  but, you just aren't going to get someone with a better resume and more respect than mueller for this kind of thing so i'll trust that he knows what he's doing and is doing it the right way, because this is what he does. 
    muller would then have access to irs data bank and every document he is not a foresic accountant so nhe have to employ a team more people more chances this material is leaked to media for other favors. media leverages information in many different ways. and expect to this information to be public way before muller gives any information in one of the mega drag net witch hunts so many powerful special interests that have worked with for or by association to Trump or his campaign team to become public. especially if it could swing the 2018 election . 

    at the very least this will be quite entertaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    again mueller is as good as it gets.  i haven't seen the full list of people mueller is working with and every donation they've made and every person they know or work with.  if that list is out there rather than limited examples of donations to democrats, then i guess we should see it to get the full picture.  but, you just aren't going to get someone with a better resume and more respect than mueller for this kind of thing so i'll trust that he knows what he's doing and is doing it the right way, because this is what he does. 
    muller would then have access to irs data bank and every document he is not a foresic accountant so nhe have to employ a team more people more chances this material is leaked to media for other favors. media leverages information in many different ways. and expect to this information to be public way before muller gives any information in one of the mega drag net witch hunts so many powerful special interests that have worked with for or by association to Trump or his campaign team to become public. especially if it could swing the 2018 election . 

    at the very least this will be quite entertaining.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    again mueller is as good as it gets.  i haven't seen the full list of people mueller is working with and every donation they've made and every person they know or work with.  if that list is out there rather than limited examples of donations to democrats, then i guess we should see it to get the full picture.  but, you just aren't going to get someone with a better resume and more respect than mueller for this kind of thing so i'll trust that he knows what he's doing and is doing it the right way, because this is what he does. 


    I HOPE THEY GO FOR THE GUSTO 


    SET THE EXAMPLE AND PUT SOME OF AMERICA'S SHADIEST PEOPLE AWAY IN PRISON ===


    RICH OLD SCAM ARTISTS !!!!  From all Backgrounds 
    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    again mueller is as good as it gets.  i haven't seen the full list of people mueller is working with and every donation they've made and every person they know or work with.  if that list is out there rather than limited examples of donations to democrats, then i guess we should see it to get the full picture.  but, you just aren't going to get someone with a better resume and more respect than mueller for this kind of thing so i'll trust that he knows what he's doing and is doing it the right way, because this is what he does. 


    I HOPE THEY GO FOR THE GUSTO 


    SET THE EXAMPLE AND PUT SOME OF AMERICA'S SHADIEST PEOPLE AWAY IN PRISON ===


    RICH OLD SCAM ARTISTS !!!!  From all Backgrounds 
     
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    Mueller the same guy who wouldn't allow the FBI to learn how terror groups radicalize on online.

    Mueller is a human skidmark...

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    Mueller the same guy who wouldn't allow the FBI to learn how terror groups radicalize on online.

    Mueller is a human skidmark...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:



    AGAIN BROTHER     PLEASE STOP 


    You can't CALL yourself a CHRISTIAN and ACT AS A  CUCKOLD FOR THE MEGA RICH 

    YOU SOUND LIKE a CHILD MURDERER ...

    Might as well JUST DRONE BOMB some KIDS / SENIORS AND VETS/AMERICANS    WHILE THEY SLEEP IN SELECTED HOODS AND ECONOMIC  CLASSES ....


    Why is this disgrace of a human being allowed to post on here yet I a conservative get boxed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:



    AGAIN BROTHER     PLEASE STOP 


    You can't CALL yourself a CHRISTIAN and ACT AS A  CUCKOLD FOR THE MEGA RICH 

    YOU SOUND LIKE a CHILD MURDERER ...

    Might as well JUST DRONE BOMB some KIDS / SENIORS AND VETS/AMERICANS    WHILE THEY SLEEP IN SELECTED HOODS AND ECONOMIC  CLASSES ....


    Why is this disgrace of a human being allowed to post on here yet I a conservative get boxed?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by packers1992:


    Why is this disgrace of a human being allowed to post on here yet I a conservative get boxed?





    YOU WANNA KILL CHILDREN 


    BUT SOMEHOW BELIEVE YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN 


    YOU BETTER START PRAYING 
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    Quote Originally Posted by packers1992:


    Why is this disgrace of a human being allowed to post on here yet I a conservative get boxed?





    YOU WANNA KILL CHILDREN 


    BUT SOMEHOW BELIEVE YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN 


    YOU BETTER START PRAYING 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    ken, the overwhelming tide of incompetence and corruption in DC is always a concern.  that being said, mueller seems to be as capable and unbiased as anyone could hope for.  vietnam veteran with all sorts of medals, very well educated, served under presidents from reagan to obama, people who have worked for him and with him seem to really like and respect him.  i'm not sure one could do better than him. 

    i know people like to speculate about this russia thing but hopefully people understand that this investigation is in the best hands possible. 






    Club--As I said, I really do hope you're right. I believe the best thing that could happen here is that regardless of the outcome of the probe, a solid majority of the country sees the result as believable, fair and impartial. That might be too much to ask, but one can hope.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



    ken, the overwhelming tide of incompetence and corruption in DC is always a concern.  that being said, mueller seems to be as capable and unbiased as anyone could hope for.  vietnam veteran with all sorts of medals, very well educated, served under presidents from reagan to obama, people who have worked for him and with him seem to really like and respect him.  i'm not sure one could do better than him. 

    i know people like to speculate about this russia thing but hopefully people understand that this investigation is in the best hands possible. 






    Club--As I said, I really do hope you're right. I believe the best thing that could happen here is that regardless of the outcome of the probe, a solid majority of the country sees the result as believable, fair and impartial. That might be too much to ask, but one can hope.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1129ken:



    Club--As I said, I really do hope you're right. I believe the best thing that could happen here is that regardless of the outcome of the probe, a solid majority of the country sees the result as believable, fair and impartial. That might be too much to ask, but one can hope.



    Ken, I'm quite certain that will never happen.

    Regardless of the outcome of this investigation, the media will spin it to fit their narrative. 

    Just as with the 6th district of Georgia ... the MSM touted this race as being incredibly significant. They claimed this one race was going to be America's answer to Trump. The left funded this contest like no other before. Their candidate was up big in the polls, and they were puffing their chests just waiting for the votes to be tallied. 

    Then their candidate lost ... and not a single member of the MSM (or scalajabroni) was willing to admit that they lost. Instead, the spin was that they had somehow won, because the election was closer than in years past. No mention of the fact that Trump only won that district by 1.5% ... it looks better to reference elections from many years ago, which were lopsided in favor of the republicans. 

    Spin  Spin  Spin 
    bigreds daddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1129ken:



    Club--As I said, I really do hope you're right. I believe the best thing that could happen here is that regardless of the outcome of the probe, a solid majority of the country sees the result as believable, fair and impartial. That might be too much to ask, but one can hope.



    Ken, I'm quite certain that will never happen.

    Regardless of the outcome of this investigation, the media will spin it to fit their narrative. 

    Just as with the 6th district of Georgia ... the MSM touted this race as being incredibly significant. They claimed this one race was going to be America's answer to Trump. The left funded this contest like no other before. Their candidate was up big in the polls, and they were puffing their chests just waiting for the votes to be tallied. 

    Then their candidate lost ... and not a single member of the MSM (or scalajabroni) was willing to admit that they lost. Instead, the spin was that they had somehow won, because the election was closer than in years past. No mention of the fact that Trump only won that district by 1.5% ... it looks better to reference elections from many years ago, which were lopsided in favor of the republicans. 

    Spin  Spin  Spin 
     
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    Hugh--I fear you are entirely correct, for the reasons you state. Hoping for the media to be objective is like hoping a leopard will change its spots. It is Pollyanna thinking, which is not thinking at all.
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    Hugh--I fear you are entirely correct, for the reasons you state. Hoping for the media to be objective is like hoping a leopard will change its spots. It is Pollyanna thinking, which is not thinking at all.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1129ken:



    Club--As I said, I really do hope you're right. I believe the best thing that could happen here is that regardless of the outcome of the probe, a solid majority of the country sees the result as believable, fair and impartial. That might be too much to ask, but one can hope.





    i think the best thing to do is to try and tune all of that garbage out.

    i can tell you that whatever mueller concludes, i will be satisfied with his opinion and whatever actions he takes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1129ken:



    Club--As I said, I really do hope you're right. I believe the best thing that could happen here is that regardless of the outcome of the probe, a solid majority of the country sees the result as believable, fair and impartial. That might be too much to ask, but one can hope.





    i think the best thing to do is to try and tune all of that garbage out.

    i can tell you that whatever mueller concludes, i will be satisfied with his opinion and whatever actions he takes.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:




    i think the best thing to do is to try and tune all of that garbage out.

    i can tell you that whatever mueller concludes, i will be satisfied with his opinion and whatever actions he takes.



    agree Brother 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:




    i think the best thing to do is to try and tune all of that garbage out.

    i can tell you that whatever mueller concludes, i will be satisfied with his opinion and whatever actions he takes.



    agree Brother 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:




    i think the best thing to do is to try and tune all of that garbage out.

    i can tell you that whatever mueller concludes, i will be satisfied with his opinion and whatever actions he takes.

     CD, you're a man of commen sense but I fear you are of a small minority. When Mueller concludes his investigation, particularly on this site, one side or the other will find fault in his investigation and not accept his findings. 
     That being said I truly hope that Covers is not a harbinger of the nations opinion on this matter.
    Gotta go pee!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:




    i think the best thing to do is to try and tune all of that garbage out.

    i can tell you that whatever mueller concludes, i will be satisfied with his opinion and whatever actions he takes.

     CD, you're a man of commen sense but I fear you are of a small minority. When Mueller concludes his investigation, particularly on this site, one side or the other will find fault in his investigation and not accept his findings. 
     That being said I truly hope that Covers is not a harbinger of the nations opinion on this matter.
     
     
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    yeah, i'm sure it'll be a mess whenever the investigation is finished.  the media plays this stuff up like it's the season finale of a tv show.

    anyway, i'm guessing it will take a while to complete it all.  we'll see what happens. 
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    yeah, i'm sure it'll be a mess whenever the investigation is finished.  the media plays this stuff up like it's the season finale of a tv show.

    anyway, i'm guessing it will take a while to complete it all.  we'll see what happens. 
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