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    Oh OOOOooohhhhh !!! Trump leading in Ohio and Pennsylvania

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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2016 - 12:51 PM ET #1

    Clinton is sagging and her 0nce "formidable" 5 point lead is now even, but more importantly, she is losing in the all important swing states of Florida, Ohio, Penn, N.C. and Indiana. 

    The non trust of Clinton is 56%

    First they laugh

    Then they scoff
    Then they fight in the streets

    Then they're in denial as he is elected President.

    Prediction for now(as if my opinion even mattered): Look for a Yuge boost in the polls after the convention for Trump. Democrats' strategies of pinning polls' boost on Sanders' endorsement and FBI clearance of charges are BACKFIRING. Debates will move even more distance and she will be in an irrecoverable position by September. TV ads and mega donors will not save her campaign.

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    Clinton is sagging and her 0nce "formidable" 5 point lead is now even, but more importantly, she is losing in the all important swing states of Florida, Ohio, Penn, N.C. and Indiana. 

    The non trust of Clinton is 56%

    First they laugh

    Then they scoff
    Then they fight in the streets

    Then they're in denial as he is elected President.

    Prediction for now(as if my opinion even mattered): Look for a Yuge boost in the polls after the convention for Trump. Democrats' strategies of pinning polls' boost on Sanders' endorsement and FBI clearance of charges are BACKFIRING. Debates will move even more distance and she will be in an irrecoverable position by September. TV ads and mega donors will not save her campaign.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2016 - 1:08 PM ET #2

    Obama politicizing at the funeral of the five police officers was sickening. First he had a great yuk yuk and grotesque cultural moment with the Dallas police chief over Stevie Wonder songs and how it helped him seduce Michelle (odd laughter ensues), then he calls the "peaceful protesters" of Black Lives Matter being protected by the police (not the police protecting property and other citizens), NOT being somewhere else where they'd rather be, and being killed "heroically." If Im a family member I would be disgusted by legitimizing the BLM and even the shooter at the funeral of my loved one.Obama is CLEARLY on a social agenda in his final lame duck year of legacy building of promoting black movements of any ilk--BLM, Muslim Brotherhood, and international Muslim outreach. He does not realize that HE is inciting violence. He is sparking racial DIVISIONS.The HOPE was that he would bring in the Black American culture into the unity and fabric on American society and help solve inner city BLIGHT and despair that we see in CHICAGO and DETROIT and LA. Opposite has happened by seeking DELINEATE and legitimize groups that do not unite, but disrupt. The police are not the problem, and his comments in Dallas were politicized and by mentioning the two slain black men by name, he was in a most disgusting way, making the charge that the BLM is RIGHT to question the police.

    I am to blame. I voted for Obama in 08. He has become a problem now--a major problem. By focusing on being a 'cultural force' and leader of cultural change, he is becoming an instigator. MLK, Jr was a preacher. A preacher can lead a group culturally and spiritually and promote change. The President is not in a position to favor a group over another or promote social change. He needs to promote security, job creation, stability and prosperity.
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    Obama politicizing at the funeral of the five police officers was sickening. First he had a great yuk yuk and grotesque cultural moment with the Dallas police chief over Stevie Wonder songs and how it helped him seduce Michelle (odd laughter ensues), then he calls the "peaceful protesters" of Black Lives Matter being protected by the police (not the police protecting property and other citizens), NOT being somewhere else where they'd rather be, and being killed "heroically." If Im a family member I would be disgusted by legitimizing the BLM and even the shooter at the funeral of my loved one.Obama is CLEARLY on a social agenda in his final lame duck year of legacy building of promoting black movements of any ilk--BLM, Muslim Brotherhood, and international Muslim outreach. He does not realize that HE is inciting violence. He is sparking racial DIVISIONS.The HOPE was that he would bring in the Black American culture into the unity and fabric on American society and help solve inner city BLIGHT and despair that we see in CHICAGO and DETROIT and LA. Opposite has happened by seeking DELINEATE and legitimize groups that do not unite, but disrupt. The police are not the problem, and his comments in Dallas were politicized and by mentioning the two slain black men by name, he was in a most disgusting way, making the charge that the BLM is RIGHT to question the police.

    I am to blame. I voted for Obama in 08. He has become a problem now--a major problem. By focusing on being a 'cultural force' and leader of cultural change, he is becoming an instigator. MLK, Jr was a preacher. A preacher can lead a group culturally and spiritually and promote change. The President is not in a position to favor a group over another or promote social change. He needs to promote security, job creation, stability and prosperity.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2016 - 3:12 PM ET #3

    Donald will be speaking next week so he's bound to fall again.   
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    Donald will be speaking next week so he's bound to fall again.   
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2016 - 3:21 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Donald will be speaking next week so he's bound to fall again.   

    Nice try. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Donald will be speaking next week so he's bound to fall again.   

    Nice try. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2016 - 3:47 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:


    Nice try. 

    Every time he talks, something stupid comes out of his mouth.  But I'm sure you eat it up 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:


    Nice try. 

    Every time he talks, something stupid comes out of his mouth.  But I'm sure you eat it up 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2016 - 4:13 PM ET #6

    trump is leading in 1 poll out of the last 10 in each of OH and PA and your conclusion is that he is leading in both states?
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    trump is leading in 1 poll out of the last 10 in each of OH and PA and your conclusion is that he is leading in both states?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2016 - 4:20 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    trump is leading in 1 poll out of the last 10 in each of OH and PA and your conclusion is that he is leading in both states?
    Quinnipiac is very reliable and is the latest. Plus many pollsters agree that Trump may have a large 'hidden constituency' that their polling will not pick up until exit polls. So any poll that has a plus / - error of four points, you're "better off assuming those are Trump voters." Trend is going Trump. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    trump is leading in 1 poll out of the last 10 in each of OH and PA and your conclusion is that he is leading in both states?
    Quinnipiac is very reliable and is the latest. Plus many pollsters agree that Trump may have a large 'hidden constituency' that their polling will not pick up until exit polls. So any poll that has a plus / - error of four points, you're "better off assuming those are Trump voters." Trend is going Trump. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2016 - 4:27 PM ET #8

    Sanders' half hearted endorsement, and the FBI's scathing assessment of hillary's lies are not sitting well with voters. This aint "her turn" for nothing. She will look very bad in every debate. She is wooden, esp when you hit her with the truth.

    Without Ohio, Penns, Florida, NC, Indiana, Hillary is dead stuck in liberal northeast corners of the country. She has lackluster appeal, no real speaking ability to draw people in with her scripted soundbites and tv ads are losing their power in national contests. She was a decent Senator for NY while she continues to build her Clinton Foundation Empire. As President, she's looking dead.
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    Sanders' half hearted endorsement, and the FBI's scathing assessment of hillary's lies are not sitting well with voters. This aint "her turn" for nothing. She will look very bad in every debate. She is wooden, esp when you hit her with the truth.

    Without Ohio, Penns, Florida, NC, Indiana, Hillary is dead stuck in liberal northeast corners of the country. She has lackluster appeal, no real speaking ability to draw people in with her scripted soundbites and tv ads are losing their power in national contests. She was a decent Senator for NY while she continues to build her Clinton Foundation Empire. As President, she's looking dead.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2016 - 4:33 PM ET #9

    The decision by Obama to give Hillary a prominent position to ramp her for a run at President was a colossal mistake for Obama and especially for the entire Mideast and Arab world, and the civilized world has been flooded with impoverished hordes from backwards cesspools which threaten every civilized nation's security and way of life (Belgium, France, Germany, US, etc). There could not be a worse candidate for President. To elect the wife of an impeached President who told us she was shot at in Bosnia, and "never sent nor received classified emails on my personal servers" is DISTRUSTFUL, DISDAINFUL, and "her connections to Saudi money and from the oddest reaches of the world" (Christopher Hitchens--see youtube) make her extremely dangerous as President.
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    The decision by Obama to give Hillary a prominent position to ramp her for a run at President was a colossal mistake for Obama and especially for the entire Mideast and Arab world, and the civilized world has been flooded with impoverished hordes from backwards cesspools which threaten every civilized nation's security and way of life (Belgium, France, Germany, US, etc). There could not be a worse candidate for President. To elect the wife of an impeached President who told us she was shot at in Bosnia, and "never sent nor received classified emails on my personal servers" is DISTRUSTFUL, DISDAINFUL, and "her connections to Saudi money and from the oddest reaches of the world" (Christopher Hitchens--see youtube) make her extremely dangerous as President.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2016 - 4:39 PM ET #10

    Relax dude I read this all over the net.  It's big news in the political world.  Same poll done on June 21st she had an 8 point lead.  Biggest thing to take away from this poll is over 70% in the 3 big swing states feel like a radical change is needed.  Trump is gaining ground fast.
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    Relax dude I read this all over the net.  It's big news in the political world.  Same poll done on June 21st she had an 8 point lead.  Biggest thing to take away from this poll is over 70% in the 3 big swing states feel like a radical change is needed.  Trump is gaining ground fast.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2016 - 4:41 PM ET #11

    Donald Trump riles up every established politician, especially those who depend on connections to survive. I could care less how CNN takes apart his speeches and finds one thing to blow out of proportion--it isn't working anyway. His rallies are filled with civilized, law abiding and country loving people. And they are FILLED everytime. CNN likes to show Mexican flag wavers knocking over police cars, and the Americans who vote in November will have a clear view of who is a sell out, and who cares about AMERICA. Trump built up over 4000 corporations, employed hundreds of thousands, built colossal hotels, and CNN points to four setbacks along the way. Hillary has built NOTHING except TAKEN from her position as first lady, from her Clinton name, from the US TAXPAYERS. CLINTON will be disaster, and voters will see it that way.


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    Donald Trump riles up every established politician, especially those who depend on connections to survive. I could care less how CNN takes apart his speeches and finds one thing to blow out of proportion--it isn't working anyway. His rallies are filled with civilized, law abiding and country loving people. And they are FILLED everytime. CNN likes to show Mexican flag wavers knocking over police cars, and the Americans who vote in November will have a clear view of who is a sell out, and who cares about AMERICA. Trump built up over 4000 corporations, employed hundreds of thousands, built colossal hotels, and CNN points to four setbacks along the way. Hillary has built NOTHING except TAKEN from her position as first lady, from her Clinton name, from the US TAXPAYERS. CLINTON will be disaster, and voters will see it that way.


     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2016 - 4:43 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

    Relax dude I read this all over the net.  It's big news in the political world.  Same poll done on June 21st she had an 8 point lead.  Biggest thing to take away from this poll is over 70% in the 3 big swing states feel like a radical change is needed.  Trump is gaining ground fast.

    YES !!! And I feel like after the conventions, Trump will be pulling away, and will solidify after the debates. His rallies will continue as strong as ever. CHANGE in Washington is needed, and that is what we are seeing in the polls. NONE cares about gender to make change. She is NOT the woman. It isn't gonna happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

    Relax dude I read this all over the net.  It's big news in the political world.  Same poll done on June 21st she had an 8 point lead.  Biggest thing to take away from this poll is over 70% in the 3 big swing states feel like a radical change is needed.  Trump is gaining ground fast.

    YES !!! And I feel like after the conventions, Trump will be pulling away, and will solidify after the debates. His rallies will continue as strong as ever. CHANGE in Washington is needed, and that is what we are seeing in the polls. NONE cares about gender to make change. She is NOT the woman. It isn't gonna happen.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2016 - 7:24 PM ET #13

    How is Trump polling in Japan?      
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    How is Trump polling in Japan?      
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 13, 2016 - 7:41 PM ET #14

    https://politicalwire.com/2016/07/13/clinton-ahead-or-even-in-midwest-battlegrounds/

    This poll, taken in the immediate aftermath of the no-prosecution decision, has HRC up 9 points in PA and tied in Ohio.
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    https://politicalwire.com/2016/07/13/clinton-ahead-or-even-in-midwest-battlegrounds/

    This poll, taken in the immediate aftermath of the no-prosecution decision, has HRC up 9 points in PA and tied in Ohio.
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