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The pcip plan is no longer taking applications because they are out of money. Tell me again mr. Obama how you are cutting insurance premiums.
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Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:
So tell me Mr taylor,what part of Obamacare has been implimented so far?
Why don't you tell us how that is at all relevant?
Especially given the fact that companies, insurers, and hospitals all have taken steps to deal with anticipated effects of the law.
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Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:
Why don't you tell us how that is at all relevant?
Especially given the fact that companies, insurers, and hospitals all have taken steps to deal with anticipated effects of the law.
Why don't you tell us how that is at all relevant?
Especially given the fact that companies, insurers, and hospitals all have taken steps to deal with anticipated effects of the law.
Not the point.
The OP blamed Obama for the problems with an existing plan, which was biased and incorrect.
Obamacare is not to blame for any current healthcare issues. "Planning" of whatever else excuses are unfounded and erroneous, even if plans end up being under served it still is false to blame Obama or his health care plan for any current issues.
That is the point..
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Why is PCIP enrollment being suspended?
PCIP is a temporary program for those locked out of the current insurance marketplace. The program has a limited amount of funding from Congress.
Based on program experience and trends since the start of the program, PCIP enrollees have serious and expensive illnesses with significant and immediate health care needs. More information can be found in the Annual Report on the Implementation and Operation of the PCIP Program
available here https://www.pcip.gov/Notifications/021513-ENROLLMENT_SUSPEND.html
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Quote Originally Posted by waltertaylor24:
Some of his plan has already taken effect. The pcip plan was a big part of obamacare. Im a insurance broker I think I know whats going on
Some of his plan has already taken effect. The pcip plan was a big part of obamacare. Im a insurance broker I think I know whats going on
Well if you really are a broker then you are pretty uninformed to blame Obama for the fate of the industry you broker.
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Ha. Ok I forget you know everything about everything. The pcip plan is all obama. The rates in the market are steadily going up and are going to get worse the closer we get to january. UHC is already in the process to come out with 20000 dollar deductible options to make it more affordable.
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Quote Originally Posted by sundance:
How any one can defend this piece of crap legislation is beyond me. Insurance companies receiving a theoretical 30m healthy young people paying monthly premium with a 5k deductible. Not to mention 16.5, newly hired IRS agentsmaking sure yu have complied.
How any one can defend this piece of crap legislation is beyond me. Insurance companies receiving a theoretical 30m healthy young people paying monthly premium with a 5k deductible. Not to mention 16.5, newly hired IRS agentsmaking sure yu have complied.
You watch too much Fox News.
https://www.factcheck.org/2010/03/irs-expansion/
Completely not true. You must also believe that Rasmussen polling is accurate right?
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Quote Originally Posted by waltertaylor24:
What am I unimformed about? Please explain
What am I unimformed about? Please explain
You are uninformed if you correlate Obama with a multi decade long premium trend.
You are uninformed if you fail to know this trend and understand why it exists and has existed for decades.
Why not blame Reagan, the trend probably has its infancy while he was dragging the economy into the abyss.
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Quote Originally Posted by waltertaylor24:
Keep reading darkhorse. They 5 billion that they got was supposed to last until 2014.
Keep reading darkhorse. They 5 billion that they got was supposed to last until 2014.
From what I read Obamacare (the part about pre-exising conditions) doesn't take effect till '14.Seems this(pcip) was a link program till then. The question I have is since the R's in congress hate Ocare so much why would they even fund the pcip program?
The Health Insurance Marketplace
Starting next year, the Affordable Care Act guarantees that all Americans – regardless of their health status or pre-existing conditions – will finally have access to quality, affordable coverage. People will be able to apply for affordable health insurance coverage choices in Health Insurance Marketplaces when open enrollment begins on October 1. The Health Insurance Marketplace will offer a choice of quality, affordable health plans. Coverage begins on January 1, 2014. Visit www.healthcare.gov
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
Not the point.
The OP blamed Obama for the problems with an existing plan, which was biased and incorrect.
Obamacare is not to blame for any current healthcare issues. "Planning" of whatever else excuses are unfounded and erroneous, even if plans end up being under served it still is false to blame Obama or his health care plan for any current issues.
That is the point..
Not the point.
The OP blamed Obama for the problems with an existing plan, which was biased and incorrect.
Obamacare is not to blame for any current healthcare issues. "Planning" of whatever else excuses are unfounded and erroneous, even if plans end up being under served it still is false to blame Obama or his health care plan for any current issues.
That is the point..
Um, ObamaCare is to blame for health insurance premium increases, companies dropping health care plans, and people losing jobs.
This has been all over the news, and merely saying "Nuh-Uh" is an absurd response.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
How is any plan his plan?
His "plans" are not implemented yet..
Healthcare pricing issues are multi decades long, inflation for health care has outpaced general CPI for how many years?
How is any plan his plan?
His "plans" are not implemented yet..
Healthcare pricing issues are multi decades long, inflation for health care has outpaced general CPI for how many years?
Er, yes, yes parts of ObamaCare have indeed been implemented.
Why not blame Reagan, the trend probably has its infancy while he was dragging the economy into the abyss.
Yes!! The creation millions of jobs, increases in family income, over 7% GDP growth = "into the abyss"!!!
Really it is!!!
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#24
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
You are uninformed if you correlate Obama with a multi decade long premium trend.
You are uninformed if you fail to know this trend and understand why it exists and has existed for decades.
Why not blame Reagan, the trend probably has its infancy while he was dragging the economy into the abyss.
You are uninformed if you correlate Obama with a multi decade long premium trend.
You are uninformed if you fail to know this trend and understand why it exists and has existed for decades.
Why not blame Reagan, the trend probably has its infancy while he was dragging the economy into the abyss.
Every post you've made reveals you are indeed uninformed on this topic. For example:
2011 Federal Insurance Regulations
• The law will limit health plans to medical loss ratios of less than 85% and will require health insurance companies to provide
rebates below this limit.
New Taxes 2011
• The law will impose a pharmaceutical industry fee on sales of brand name pharmaceuticals for use in government health programs ($2.5 billion for 2011, $2.8 billion per year for 2012 and 2013, $3.0 billion per year for 2014 through 2016, $4 billion for 2017, $4.1 billion for 2018, and $2.8 billion for 2019 and thereafter).
2010 ObamaCare law changes:
Federal Insurance Regulations
• Prohibits lifetime limits on coverage, restricts rescission of policies, or exclusions for pre-existing conditions.
• Establishes a requirement to provide coverage for non-dependent children up to age 26 to all existing health insurance plans starting six months after enactment.
• Requires preventative services.
New Taxes and Tax Credits
• Provides a tax credit for small businesses for up to 35% of their contribution to purchasing health insurance for their employees.
Estimated at $40 billion over 10 years.
• Imposes a 10% tax on indoor tanning.
• Provides for the adoption tax credit and increases the adoption assistance exclusion by $1,000. Credit is refundable and extended
through 2011.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
Not the point.
The OP blamed Obama for the problems with an existing plan, which was biased and incorrect.
Obamacare is not to blame for any current healthcare issues. "Planning" of whatever else excuses are unfounded and erroneous, even if plans end up being under served it still is false to blame Obama or his health care plan for any current issues.
That is the point..
Not the point.
The OP blamed Obama for the problems with an existing plan, which was biased and incorrect.
Obamacare is not to blame for any current healthcare issues. "Planning" of whatever else excuses are unfounded and erroneous, even if plans end up being under served it still is false to blame Obama or his health care plan for any current issues.
That is the point..
Your whole post is erroneous. You merely asserting something is an "excuse" isn't responsive nor is it a fact. It is silly.
ObamaCare is indeed to blame for this. You have no clue which parts have been implemented, and which have not.
But I guess it is fun to pretend that 30,000+ pages of regulations already issued, are meaningless and have no impact on current plans. Because you get to falsely assert that the plans haven't been implemented.
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