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    Obama addresses why the loss in the election

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    nature1970
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2016 - 3:42 AM ET #1

    surprisingly he didn't blame Putin or Comey.

    He blamed the Hillary campaigning only in highest density areas

    major cities and completely leaving rural and suburban America

    without any stump speeches or rally's .

    where he lost with 55-45 or 60-40 Hillary lost 80-20

    what he neglects to mention is the candidate herself .

    Americans don't like her didn't trust her and didn't vote for her.

    Bernie would of won the primaries had not been a core group

    of dnc leadership at the top blocking his rise to the nomination.

    They felt where would these supporters go when Hillary won

    where did they go they went to work, or spent some family time

    with those they cared for they went to stores or simply relaxed at

    home. Many of them, where they didn't go , They didn't go out and

    VOTE.


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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    surprisingly he didn't blame Putin or Comey.

    He blamed the Hillary campaigning only in highest density areas

    major cities and completely leaving rural and suburban America

    without any stump speeches or rally's .

    where he lost with 55-45 or 60-40 Hillary lost 80-20

    what he neglects to mention is the candidate herself .

    Americans don't like her didn't trust her and didn't vote for her.

    Bernie would of won the primaries had not been a core group

    of dnc leadership at the top blocking his rise to the nomination.

    They felt where would these supporters go when Hillary won

    where did they go they went to work, or spent some family time

    with those they cared for they went to stores or simply relaxed at

    home. Many of them, where they didn't go , They didn't go out and

    VOTE.


     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2016 - 3:52 AM ET #2

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/sotu

    last speech for the story teller in chief,

    The state of the union. Jan 12th, 2016


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    https://www.whitehouse.gov/sotu

    last speech for the story teller in chief,

    The state of the union. Jan 12th, 2016


     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2016 - 11:09 PM ET #3

    I think her campaign kept Hillary her out of the battlegrounds because she hurts her numbers wherever she goes.
    Not buying the story about how they didn't know it would be close in the midwest..
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    I think her campaign kept Hillary her out of the battlegrounds because she hurts her numbers wherever she goes.
    Not buying the story about how they didn't know it would be close in the midwest..
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2016 - 2:36 AM ET #4

    the reason she lost.

     she did not put Bernie Sanders on the ticket.

    and thank god. She made that Huge Mistake

    without the Bernie  she lost.


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    the reason she lost.

     she did not put Bernie Sanders on the ticket.

    and thank god. She made that Huge Mistake

    without the Bernie  she lost.


     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2016 - 4:55 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    the reason she lost.

     she did not put Bernie Sanders on the ticket.

    and thank god. She made that Huge Mistake

    without the Bernie  she lost.





    She lost because its a Man's World and shes a C-word 
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    the reason she lost.

     she did not put Bernie Sanders on the ticket.

    and thank god. She made that Huge Mistake

    without the Bernie  she lost.





    She lost because its a Man's World and shes a C-word 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2016 - 1:03 PM ET #6

    she lost because her of her complete disdain for Union Workers.

    her arrogance in believing she could win with out Sanders

    and really no reason why she should not pick him as her running mate

    for those who understand the position as described in the constitution The Vice president has No power more than a way to put your rival in

    a neutral nothing position as Washington did with Adams the

    position was designed to make Adams completely ineffective.

    it has been utilized when McKinley chose Roosevelt. 

    why she chose the parties spin mouth piece is because she was so assured she win it all anyway.

    if sanders moved to vp

     it wasn't like his vacancy was going to be filled by a ( r )

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    she lost because her of her complete disdain for Union Workers.

    her arrogance in believing she could win with out Sanders

    and really no reason why she should not pick him as her running mate

    for those who understand the position as described in the constitution The Vice president has No power more than a way to put your rival in

    a neutral nothing position as Washington did with Adams the

    position was designed to make Adams completely ineffective.

    it has been utilized when McKinley chose Roosevelt. 

    why she chose the parties spin mouth piece is because she was so assured she win it all anyway.

    if sanders moved to vp

     it wasn't like his vacancy was going to be filled by a ( r )

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2016 - 7:07 PM ET #7

    Plain and simple - she lost because about 95% of us in our population drastically underestimated just how dumb, ignorant, and short sighted the majority of the US population truly is. I know that I for sure was mislead.

    Does not bode well for the future of our children...

    Sad
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    Plain and simple - she lost because about 95% of us in our population drastically underestimated just how dumb, ignorant, and short sighted the majority of the US population truly is. I know that I for sure was mislead.

    Does not bode well for the future of our children...

    Sad
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2016 - 7:48 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Plain and simple - she lost because about 95% of us in our population drastically underestimated just how dumb, ignorant, and short sighted the majority of the US population truly is. I know that I for sure was mislead.

    Does not bode well for the future of our children...

    Sad

    we get back good paying jobs without going 100 g in debt with student loans we get to make steel paper shirts shoes electronics out of high school. I know it pisses the proffesors off that a man out of high school in a manufacturing  job will make more then they with a 100g dtudent loan debt and not much oppurtunity but to keep going to a doctorate or flip burgers with a bs degree but so be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Plain and simple - she lost because about 95% of us in our population drastically underestimated just how dumb, ignorant, and short sighted the majority of the US population truly is. I know that I for sure was mislead.

    Does not bode well for the future of our children...

    Sad

    we get back good paying jobs without going 100 g in debt with student loans we get to make steel paper shirts shoes electronics out of high school. I know it pisses the proffesors off that a man out of high school in a manufacturing  job will make more then they with a 100g dtudent loan debt and not much oppurtunity but to keep going to a doctorate or flip burgers with a bs degree but so be it.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2016 - 7:55 PM ET #9

    democrats need poor beggers to stay in power so they make us poor beggers , and demostrate a disdain for anyone without a degree.

    they eliminated the middle class and say they wanted to strengthen it.

    they continue through affirmative action to promote minoroties for quota over whites because they want minoities to feel favored and vote for them

    they allow illegal for farm work cause they want you on food stamps and allow farm production to continue under real labor costs

    they are ashamed of prosperous americans calling them elitists while Buffet Gates the clintons make billions and fund their elections.

    they dictate you are equal cause you nall barely scrape by and the poor love them for this.

    spin it to some one else matt i reconize the designs of evil people.

    and you are old enough to know better.
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    democrats need poor beggers to stay in power so they make us poor beggers , and demostrate a disdain for anyone without a degree.

    they eliminated the middle class and say they wanted to strengthen it.

    they continue through affirmative action to promote minoroties for quota over whites because they want minoities to feel favored and vote for them

    they allow illegal for farm work cause they want you on food stamps and allow farm production to continue under real labor costs

    they are ashamed of prosperous americans calling them elitists while Buffet Gates the clintons make billions and fund their elections.

    they dictate you are equal cause you nall barely scrape by and the poor love them for this.

    spin it to some one else matt i reconize the designs of evil people.

    and you are old enough to know better.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2016 - 7:58 PM ET #10

    Gw Bush "we need onion pickers"

    Hillary "they will work picking oranges and not break the any other law."
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    Gw Bush "we need onion pickers"

    Hillary "they will work picking oranges and not break the any other law."
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2016 - 8:07 PM ET #11

    till boxers day gents i will pick this up then
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    till boxers day gents i will pick this up then
     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2016 - 10:17 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Plain and simple - she lost because about 95% of us in our population drastically underestimated just how dumb, ignorant, and short sighted the majority of the US population truly is. I know that I for sure was mislead. Does not bode well for the future of our children...Sad


    Plain & Simple
    D party lost because a handful of arrogant short sighted children rigged the primary to install a nominee who lacked the charisma to campaign in the battleground states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Plain and simple - she lost because about 95% of us in our population drastically underestimated just how dumb, ignorant, and short sighted the majority of the US population truly is. I know that I for sure was mislead. Does not bode well for the future of our children...Sad


    Plain & Simple
    D party lost because a handful of arrogant short sighted children rigged the primary to install a nominee who lacked the charisma to campaign in the battleground states.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2016 - 11:48 PM ET #13

    D is a fascist party
    They installed a failed Secretary of State as the nominee and trusted the media to win the election for them
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    D is a fascist party
    They installed a failed Secretary of State as the nominee and trusted the media to win the election for them
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2016 - 12:46 AM ET #14

    I think facist is spelled without the S
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    I think facist is spelled without the S
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2016 - 11:28 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Plain and simple - she lost because about 95% of us in our population drastically underestimated just how dumb, ignorant, and short sighted the majority of the US population truly is. I know that I for sure was mislead.

    Does not bode well for the future of our children...

    Sad

    Evidence of this was in 2012 when a failed president won reelection. In the 4 years since, they people woke up and enough of the liberal/anti-American agenda and rejected her. Go ahead and tell me about the popular vote, here's $1 go buy a cup of coffee to go with it... How's Obamacare doing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Plain and simple - she lost because about 95% of us in our population drastically underestimated just how dumb, ignorant, and short sighted the majority of the US population truly is. I know that I for sure was mislead.

    Does not bode well for the future of our children...

    Sad

    Evidence of this was in 2012 when a failed president won reelection. In the 4 years since, they people woke up and enough of the liberal/anti-American agenda and rejected her. Go ahead and tell me about the popular vote, here's $1 go buy a cup of coffee to go with it... How's Obamacare doing?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2016 - 7:19 AM ET #16

    The only reason everyone keeps asking "why did she lose" is because we were first fed the false narrative of The Machine, which includes the MSM.

    Turn the tables ... had The Machine been reporting that Trump was leading, and continually ran negative stories against HRC, then the constant question of "why did she lose" never would have been asked.

    We have been 'programmed' to ask this question, and then question if the Russian's interfered, and make posts about how stupid the American people are.

    It's all BS.
    HRC lost because she was less likable/trustworthy than Trump.
    That's not easy to do 
    bigreds daddy
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    The only reason everyone keeps asking "why did she lose" is because we were first fed the false narrative of The Machine, which includes the MSM.

    Turn the tables ... had The Machine been reporting that Trump was leading, and continually ran negative stories against HRC, then the constant question of "why did she lose" never would have been asked.

    We have been 'programmed' to ask this question, and then question if the Russian's interfered, and make posts about how stupid the American people are.

    It's all BS.
    HRC lost because she was less likable/trustworthy than Trump.
    That's not easy to do 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2016 - 11:47 AM ET #17

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Plain and simple - she lost because about 95% of us in our population drastically underestimated just how dumb, ignorant, and short sighted the majority of the US population truly is. I know that I for sure was mislead.

    Does not bode well for the future of our children...

    Sad



    I COULD NEVER BE MORE HAPPIER FOR MY "DEPLORABLE" CHILDREN....

    people like you that think like this is EXACTLY what's TOTALLY WRONG with this country..it's okay...ONLY TIME WILL TELL...

    Btw....HOW DO YOU LIKE YOUR NEW PRESIDENT.. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Plain and simple - she lost because about 95% of us in our population drastically underestimated just how dumb, ignorant, and short sighted the majority of the US population truly is. I know that I for sure was mislead.

    Does not bode well for the future of our children...

    Sad



    I COULD NEVER BE MORE HAPPIER FOR MY "DEPLORABLE" CHILDREN....

    people like you that think like this is EXACTLY what's TOTALLY WRONG with this country..it's okay...ONLY TIME WILL TELL...

    Btw....HOW DO YOU LIKE YOUR NEW PRESIDENT.. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2016 - 5:53 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Irving11:

    I think facist is spelled without the S

    I just checked fascist does need the S
    When the D party nominee is collecting $$ from Qatar,Saudi Arabia,European Central Bank & George Soros the word fascist is accurafe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving11:

    I think facist is spelled without the S

    I just checked fascist does need the S
    When the D party nominee is collecting $$ from Qatar,Saudi Arabia,European Central Bank & George Soros the word fascist is accurafe
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2016 - 10:08 PM ET #19

    Did you notice OHillary take a shot at Israel over at the UN
    This coward wouldn't vote against Israel before the election.
    They don't call themselves Nazis anymore, but they are still
    out to get the person

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    Did you notice OHillary take a shot at Israel over at the UN
    This coward wouldn't vote against Israel before the election.
    They don't call themselves Nazis anymore, but they are still
    out to get the person

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2016 - 10:33 PM ET #20

    US Presidents views and Israeli Parliaments views have been at odds for quite some time when we vote for a conservative they seem to go liberal we go liberal they conservative. 

    seems finally we are on the same page with conservative views here and their. Obama task is to undermine Trumps and the republicans plans so Democrats have better chance to retake the white house.

    watched Maddow again tonight , Detroit punishment mistake last night. She must be on vacation for a male sub was reading her teleprompter. wasn't delivered effectively didn't have the same ring to the words. She talks with Glee when she states the argument 

     ....I have realized this is all for her viewers entertainment. not many conservatives can really stomach and not part of her viewer demographic anyway.

       Obama is aggravated and instead of handing his Government and he actually believes this is his to his chosen successor. He is handing it to the republicans. Those generals he fired Trump has hired . The people he scorned is now in control and where power corrupts the now foreseen complete loss of influence is devastating to the man's ego.

     where most of the pack has come around to an understanding that their is always next election cycle to regain a better position in US government He sees this darkness still. He stated "if you dont vote (for hillary) he would take it as a personal insult, so he feels insulted perfectly natural.

     
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    US Presidents views and Israeli Parliaments views have been at odds for quite some time when we vote for a conservative they seem to go liberal we go liberal they conservative. 

    seems finally we are on the same page with conservative views here and their. Obama task is to undermine Trumps and the republicans plans so Democrats have better chance to retake the white house.

    watched Maddow again tonight , Detroit punishment mistake last night. She must be on vacation for a male sub was reading her teleprompter. wasn't delivered effectively didn't have the same ring to the words. She talks with Glee when she states the argument 

     ....I have realized this is all for her viewers entertainment. not many conservatives can really stomach and not part of her viewer demographic anyway.

       Obama is aggravated and instead of handing his Government and he actually believes this is his to his chosen successor. He is handing it to the republicans. Those generals he fired Trump has hired . The people he scorned is now in control and where power corrupts the now foreseen complete loss of influence is devastating to the man's ego.

     where most of the pack has come around to an understanding that their is always next election cycle to regain a better position in US government He sees this darkness still. He stated "if you dont vote (for hillary) he would take it as a personal insult, so he feels insulted perfectly natural.

     
     
    Killer_B
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2016 - 3:04 PM ET #21

    Their going to have to evict him on January 20th... He's going to go out kicking and screaming that he was so great, he should remain POTUS for his lifetime. 21 more days and his nightmare reign is OVER...
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    Their going to have to evict him on January 20th... He's going to go out kicking and screaming that he was so great, he should remain POTUS for his lifetime. 21 more days and his nightmare reign is OVER...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2016 - 12:04 AM ET #22

    He is already in Hawii don't see him returning unless the

    stakes are huge. Time to warm up those memoirs and figure out where he wants his library....

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    He is already in Hawii don't see him returning unless the

    stakes are huge. Time to warm up those memoirs and figure out where he wants his library....

     
    mattbrot
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 11:26 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:




    I COULD NEVER BE MORE HAPPIER FOR MY "DEPLORABLE" CHILDREN....

    people like you that think like this is EXACTLY what's TOTALLY WRONG with this country..it's okay...ONLY TIME WILL TELL...

    Btw....HOW DO YOU LIKE YOUR NEW PRESIDENT.. 

    A few things

    1) I am a documented non-partisan independent. But I loathe ignorant people who cant think clearly. They are a dangerous breed.

    2) I do not mind Trump being president. I do not think he is good for the job but he is going to be the president so lets see. I do however find it very very scary that there were enough unintelligent ignorant people who voted for him. This is concerning.

    3) I am serious here. It would never happen but I would be in favor of a new law that allowed us to go back in and see all of the names of the people who actually voted for Trump. Then the law would allow these people to be flagged so that in future elections their vote only counts for a 1/3 or 1/2 of a full vote. The stakes are too important to leave these critical decisions in the hands of such people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:




    I COULD NEVER BE MORE HAPPIER FOR MY "DEPLORABLE" CHILDREN....

    people like you that think like this is EXACTLY what's TOTALLY WRONG with this country..it's okay...ONLY TIME WILL TELL...

    Btw....HOW DO YOU LIKE YOUR NEW PRESIDENT.. 

    A few things

    1) I am a documented non-partisan independent. But I loathe ignorant people who cant think clearly. They are a dangerous breed.

    2) I do not mind Trump being president. I do not think he is good for the job but he is going to be the president so lets see. I do however find it very very scary that there were enough unintelligent ignorant people who voted for him. This is concerning.

    3) I am serious here. It would never happen but I would be in favor of a new law that allowed us to go back in and see all of the names of the people who actually voted for Trump. Then the law would allow these people to be flagged so that in future elections their vote only counts for a 1/3 or 1/2 of a full vote. The stakes are too important to leave these critical decisions in the hands of such people.


     
     
    Killer_B
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2017 - 4:18 PM ET #24

    60M voted for a corrupt criminal, I believe their way more ignorant and oblivious to what's going on than the Trump supporters who are absolutely sick of the corrupt establishment (both sides) candidates... 

    I'll go for your plan if all people on government assistance (i.e. handouts, not ss or medicare) are not allowed to vote at all. That would include food stamps, housing subsidies, Obama phones, all of the stuff that people are either too lazy or too stupid to support themselves. How's that Matt? Deal? That would probably remove 25% of the Democratic electorate and I'll bet that's a kind estimate.
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    60M voted for a corrupt criminal, I believe their way more ignorant and oblivious to what's going on than the Trump supporters who are absolutely sick of the corrupt establishment (both sides) candidates... 

    I'll go for your plan if all people on government assistance (i.e. handouts, not ss or medicare) are not allowed to vote at all. That would include food stamps, housing subsidies, Obama phones, all of the stuff that people are either too lazy or too stupid to support themselves. How's that Matt? Deal? That would probably remove 25% of the Democratic electorate and I'll bet that's a kind estimate.
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