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    McConnel states impeachment is an easier path to purge Party of Trump

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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2021 - 5:58 PM ET #1

    Yup McConnell is ready to address the House concerns WITH determination. 

    Senator Mitch McConnell is said to believe that the impeachment effort will make it easier to purge President Trump from the party. And Representative Kevin McCarthy has asked other Republicans whether he should call on Mr. Trump to resign in the aftermath of the Capitol siege.

    Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, has told associates that he believes President Trump committed impeachable offenses and that he is pleased that Democrats are moving to impeach him, believing that it will make it easier to purge him from the party, according to people familiar with his thinking. The House is voting on Wednesday to formally charge Mr. Trump with inciting violence against the country.

    At the same time, Representative Kevin McCarthy of California, the minority leader and one of Mr. Trump’s most steadfast allies in Congress, has asked other Republicans whether he should call on Mr. Trump to resign in the aftermath of the riot at the Capitol last week, according to three Republican officials briefed on the conversations.

    While Mr. McCarthy has said he is personally opposed to impeachment, he and other party leaders have decided not to formally lobby Republicans to vote “no,” and an aide to Mr. McCarthy said he was open to a measure censuring Mr. Trump for his conduct. In private, Mr. McCarthy reached out to a leading House Democrat to see if the chamber would be willing to pursue a censure vote, though Speaker Nancy Pelosi has ruled it out.

    Source.https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/12/us/impeachment-trump-25th-amendment

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    Yup McConnell is ready to address the House concerns WITH determination. 

    Senator Mitch McConnell is said to believe that the impeachment effort will make it easier to purge President Trump from the party. And Representative Kevin McCarthy has asked other Republicans whether he should call on Mr. Trump to resign in the aftermath of the Capitol siege.

    Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, has told associates that he believes President Trump committed impeachable offenses and that he is pleased that Democrats are moving to impeach him, believing that it will make it easier to purge him from the party, according to people familiar with his thinking. The House is voting on Wednesday to formally charge Mr. Trump with inciting violence against the country.

    At the same time, Representative Kevin McCarthy of California, the minority leader and one of Mr. Trump’s most steadfast allies in Congress, has asked other Republicans whether he should call on Mr. Trump to resign in the aftermath of the riot at the Capitol last week, according to three Republican officials briefed on the conversations.

    While Mr. McCarthy has said he is personally opposed to impeachment, he and other party leaders have decided not to formally lobby Republicans to vote “no,” and an aide to Mr. McCarthy said he was open to a measure censuring Mr. Trump for his conduct. In private, Mr. McCarthy reached out to a leading House Democrat to see if the chamber would be willing to pursue a censure vote, though Speaker Nancy Pelosi has ruled it out.

    Source.https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/12/us/impeachment-trump-25th-amendment

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2021 - 6:00 PM ET #2

    this can happen tomorrow trump goes to jail.

    Check mate.

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    this can happen tomorrow trump goes to jail.

    Check mate.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2021 - 6:14 PM ET #3

    what is censure? i know the word, but not what it would actually mean for trump (and hawley/cruz i think)

    that is a WOW on mitch mcconnell and (not mentioned here) liz cheney

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    what is censure? i know the word, but not what it would actually mean for trump (and hawley/cruz i think)

    that is a WOW on mitch mcconnell and (not mentioned here) liz cheney

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2021 - 6:21 PM ET #4

    Censure is like discarding a lawyer for leaking confidential client privilege a misdemeanor can't practice law run for office ECT. Sanctions insuuring him.

    Impeachment carries penalties up to treason of a high officer ,as he holds commander in chief ,That is above general officer or admiral conduct.

     

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    Censure is like discarding a lawyer for leaking confidential client privilege a misdemeanor can't practice law run for office ECT. Sanctions insuuring him.

    Impeachment carries penalties up to treason of a high officer ,as he holds commander in chief ,That is above general officer or admiral conduct.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2021 - 6:25 PM ET #5

    If he resigns Pence can still pardon him or lessen sentencing but Pence would become President.

    Same presences the house 2/3 of the Senate and Chief Justice  Roberts presides.

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    If he resigns Pence can still pardon him or lessen sentencing but Pence would become President.

    Same presences the house 2/3 of the Senate and Chief Justice  Roberts presides.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2021 - 6:48 PM ET #6

    can't see trump simply resigning due to accepting his wrong-doing.

    trump resignation for pence pardon?... I think given recent events that pence would be destroying his career doing that. (not tons of good options for pence these days...... impressed he's lasted this long. and I do think he stuck around in part to limit the damage DJT can do)

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    can't see trump simply resigning due to accepting his wrong-doing.

    trump resignation for pence pardon?... I think given recent events that pence would be destroying his career doing that. (not tons of good options for pence these days...... impressed he's lasted this long. and I do think he stuck around in part to limit the damage DJT can do)

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2021 - 6:54 PM ET #7

    I don't see a reality where he gets more than house arrest confined to marlargo. Ankle bracelet.

    Pence is not invoking the 25th amendment.

    He will be convicted by the Senate he is sentenced Pence will be president and commute his sentence or Pardon him out right. 

    If he isn't convicted he stated ge wont attend the inauguration and he be golfing in Mar largo Sunday.

    He have to be convicted and pence not lesson his condition. And I believe Pence is one of the loyal men to the office of the President of the United States that I have witnessed. Chances are he is pardoned anyway....

     

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    I don't see a reality where he gets more than house arrest confined to marlargo. Ankle bracelet.

    Pence is not invoking the 25th amendment.

    He will be convicted by the Senate he is sentenced Pence will be president and commute his sentence or Pardon him out right. 

    If he isn't convicted he stated ge wont attend the inauguration and he be golfing in Mar largo Sunday.

    He have to be convicted and pence not lesson his condition. And I believe Pence is one of the loyal men to the office of the President of the United States that I have witnessed. Chances are he is pardoned anyway....

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2021 - 7:01 PM ET #8

    Smart money is pence pardons the President

    He is actually a Christian

    and it is a big part of his doctrine forgiveness.

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    Smart money is pence pardons the President

    He is actually a Christian

    and it is a big part of his doctrine forgiveness.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2021 - 7:05 PM ET #9

    Growing up in an Irish Catholic family that reportedly revered the Kennedys, Pence served as an altar boy and went to parochial school in Columbus, Ind., according to Fehrman.

    Pence has said he made that "commitment to Christ" while taking part in a nondenominational Christian student group in college, according to the journalist. Pence had told The Indianapolis Star that he and his family attended Grace Evangelical Church in the 1990s, but by 2013, he told Fehrman they were "kind of looking for a church."

    Source.https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/5-faith-facts-mike-pence-born-again-evangelical-catholic

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    Growing up in an Irish Catholic family that reportedly revered the Kennedys, Pence served as an altar boy and went to parochial school in Columbus, Ind., according to Fehrman.

    Pence has said he made that "commitment to Christ" while taking part in a nondenominational Christian student group in college, according to the journalist. Pence had told The Indianapolis Star that he and his family attended Grace Evangelical Church in the 1990s, but by 2013, he told Fehrman they were "kind of looking for a church."

    Source.https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/5-faith-facts-mike-pence-born-again-evangelical-catholic

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2021 - 7:14 PM ET #10

    Pence is a convenient Catholic who lowered his values to give his full support to the POS in the WH. 

    Can't forgive him or all the other phony evangelicals.

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    Pence is a convenient Catholic who lowered his values to give his full support to the POS in the WH. 

    Can't forgive him or all the other phony evangelicals.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2021 - 7:21 PM ET #11

    No he actually a Christian now.

    CHARLESTON, W.Va. (WSAZ) - Vice President Mike Pence is coming to West Virginia.

    Pence is expected to be in Charleston on Friday, January 15 to attend a memorial service honoring the life of General Chuck Yeager. That’s according to the Office of the Vice President.

    Yeager was the first pilot to ever break the sound barrier.

    Vice President Pence will go back to Washington, D.C. Friday evening.

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    No he actually a Christian now.

    CHARLESTON, W.Va. (WSAZ) - Vice President Mike Pence is coming to West Virginia.

    Pence is expected to be in Charleston on Friday, January 15 to attend a memorial service honoring the life of General Chuck Yeager. That’s according to the Office of the Vice President.

    Yeager was the first pilot to ever break the sound barrier.

    Vice President Pence will go back to Washington, D.C. Friday evening.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2021 - 11:00 PM ET #12

    McConnell office pushes back as he states he must see the article before public endorsing it.

    Another person with direct knowledge told CNN there's a reason McConnell has been silent on impeachment as other Republicans have pushed back: he's furious about last week's attack on the US Capitol by the President's supporters, even more so that Trump has shown no contrition. His silence has been deliberate as he leaves open the option of supporting impeachment.

    McConnell has made no commitments on voting to convict Trump, and wants to see the article itself before voting. It's a stark contrast to the President's first impeachment when McConnell repeatedly spoke out against Democratic intentions to hold Trump accountable for a pressure campaign on the Ukrainian government to investigate Joe Biden and his family.

    Source CNN. 

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    McConnell office pushes back as he states he must see the article before public endorsing it.

    Another person with direct knowledge told CNN there's a reason McConnell has been silent on impeachment as other Republicans have pushed back: he's furious about last week's attack on the US Capitol by the President's supporters, even more so that Trump has shown no contrition. His silence has been deliberate as he leaves open the option of supporting impeachment.

    McConnell has made no commitments on voting to convict Trump, and wants to see the article itself before voting. It's a stark contrast to the President's first impeachment when McConnell repeatedly spoke out against Democratic intentions to hold Trump accountable for a pressure campaign on the Ukrainian government to investigate Joe Biden and his family.

    Source CNN. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2021 - 7:00 AM ET #13

    Trump has to go and not be allowed to run for any office again, period.

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    Trump has to go and not be allowed to run for any office again, period.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2021 - 9:34 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Yup McConnell is ready to address the House concerns WITH determination. 

    Senator Mitch McConnell is said to believe that the impeachment effort will make it easier to purge President Trump from the party. And Representative Kevin McCarthy has asked other Republicans whether he should call on Mr. Trump to resign in the aftermath of the Capitol siege.

     

                purge rump !!  then we can heal              otherwise no healing

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Yup McConnell is ready to address the House concerns WITH determination. 

    Senator Mitch McConnell is said to believe that the impeachment effort will make it easier to purge President Trump from the party. And Representative Kevin McCarthy has asked other Republicans whether he should call on Mr. Trump to resign in the aftermath of the Capitol siege.

     

                purge rump !!  then we can heal              otherwise no healing

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2021 - 8:08 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Pence is a convenient Catholic who lowered his values to give his full support to the POS in the WH.  Can't forgive him or all the other phony evangelicals.

     

    true       pence was fully complicit   though not near as guilty as rump

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Pence is a convenient Catholic who lowered his values to give his full support to the POS in the WH.  Can't forgive him or all the other phony evangelicals.

     

    true       pence was fully complicit   though not near as guilty as rump

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Pence is a convenient Catholic who lowered his values to give his full support to the POS in the WH.  Can't forgive him or all the other phony evangelicals.

     

    true       pence was fully complicit   though not near as guilty as rump

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Pence is a convenient Catholic who lowered his values to give his full support to the POS in the WH.  Can't forgive him or all the other phony evangelicals.

     

    true       pence was fully complicit   though not near as guilty as rump

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