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    Look at these "Trump Acceptance Speech" props on 5Dimes

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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2016 - 5:18 PM ET #1

    8:00PM Thu 7/218:00PM Thu 7/218:00PM Thu 7/218:00PM Thu 7/218:00PM Thu 7/218:00PM
     +320         
      52 Trump does not say: "black lives matter"    -460         
    must be complete phrase: "Bernie Sanders"
      53 Trump says: "Bernie Sanders"  -120         
      54 Trump does not say: "Bernie Sanders"    -120         
    must be complete phrase: "Lebron James"
      55 Trump says: "Lebron James"  +220         
      56 Trump does not say: "Lebron James"    -300         
    must be complete phrase: "Supreme Court"
      57 Trump says: "Supreme Court"  -1050         
      58 Trump does not say: "Supreme Court"    +550         
    must be complete phrase: "Obamacare"
      59 Trump says: "Obamacare"  -1500         
      60 Trump does not say: "Obamacare"    +700         
    references that are not "Bernie" or "Clinton" do not apply
      61 Trump says "Bernie" first  +500         
      62 Trump says "Clinton" first    -900
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    8:00PM Thu 7/218:00PM Thu 7/218:00PM Thu 7/218:00PM Thu 7/218:00PM Thu 7/218:00PM
     +320         
      52 Trump does not say: "black lives matter"    -460         
    must be complete phrase: "Bernie Sanders"
      53 Trump says: "Bernie Sanders"  -120         
      54 Trump does not say: "Bernie Sanders"    -120         
    must be complete phrase: "Lebron James"
      55 Trump says: "Lebron James"  +220         
      56 Trump does not say: "Lebron James"    -300         
    must be complete phrase: "Supreme Court"
      57 Trump says: "Supreme Court"  -1050         
      58 Trump does not say: "Supreme Court"    +550         
    must be complete phrase: "Obamacare"
      59 Trump says: "Obamacare"  -1500         
      60 Trump does not say: "Obamacare"    +700         
    references that are not "Bernie" or "Clinton" do not apply
      61 Trump says "Bernie" first  +500         
      62 Trump says "Clinton" first    -900
     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2016 - 5:20 PM ET #2

    Wow, "Trump does not say Black Lives Matter" is free money even at mega-negative odds. There is zero chance of that happening. Wonder what the limits are on these...

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    Wow, "Trump does not say Black Lives Matter" is free money even at mega-negative odds. There is zero chance of that happening. Wonder what the limits are on these...

     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2016 - 5:33 PM ET #3

    And after Lebron James made his speech at the beginning of the ESPY's, "Does not say" is a nice bet too (but not as good as the BLM bet).

    What's amazing is that we've gotten to the point in betting that taking both "Does not say BLM" and "Does not say Lebron James'' is regarded by 5Dimes as a correlated parlay and cannot be made!

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    And after Lebron James made his speech at the beginning of the ESPY's, "Does not say" is a nice bet too (but not as good as the BLM bet).

    What's amazing is that we've gotten to the point in betting that taking both "Does not say BLM" and "Does not say Lebron James'' is regarded by 5Dimes as a correlated parlay and cannot be made!

     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2016 - 7:40 PM ET #4

    Most props like those are not parlayable.

    Just like Betting a nascar driver to "finish in the top 5" AND "finish in the top 10" (you know, cause you believe he'll be in T5.  Or like betting two props in a MMA fight, say a fighter and "will not start Round 2".

    Or just like parlaying a side AND total...can't do it.

    If you like 'em that much, I would just do a bunch of Open parlays.
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    Most props like those are not parlayable.

    Just like Betting a nascar driver to "finish in the top 5" AND "finish in the top 10" (you know, cause you believe he'll be in T5.  Or like betting two props in a MMA fight, say a fighter and "will not start Round 2".

    Or just like parlaying a side AND total...can't do it.

    If you like 'em that much, I would just do a bunch of Open parlays.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 17, 2016 - 8:55 PM ET #5


    I don't do business with 5Dimes but Heritage usually limits these type of props to $500.
    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    I don't do business with 5Dimes but Heritage usually limits these type of props to $500.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2016 - 4:03 AM ET #6

    a new era in political wagering....incredible props.
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    a new era in political wagering....incredible props.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2016 - 5:16 AM ET #7

     No idea they had a line on this.

    I'd put everything on no BLM too.
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     No idea they had a line on this.

    I'd put everything on no BLM too.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 8:00 PM ET #8

    Does not say BLM is down to -260.

    Is anyone worried about this line movement?
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    Does not say BLM is down to -260.

    Is anyone worried about this line movement?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 8:14 PM ET #9

    Slightly off topic but it's pretty much going like this:

    Romney won 94% of the Republican vote. 71% of the white vote. Independent vote win margin of over 5% and still was crushed. 
    Trump has nothing near those figures and won't come close.

    He's done. 
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    Slightly off topic but it's pretty much going like this:

    Romney won 94% of the Republican vote. 71% of the white vote. Independent vote win margin of over 5% and still was crushed. 
    Trump has nothing near those figures and won't come close.

    He's done. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 10:01 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Livan33:

    Does not say BLM is down to -260.

    Is anyone worried about this line movement?

    Not at all.

    Those speeches are written well in advance. To put those words in his speech would be a direct provocation against BLM.

    Here is Don Lemon attempting to get him to say something about BLM.

    https://youtu.be/-_u4QLK8R-E

    . He won't say the words. I can't remember the last time he said the three words never mind put it in the most important speech of his life. And for what? To incite more mass protest by addressing them directly?

    -260 is still a heavy, heavy favorite.

    At +260, if worry. Not at -260. And it's a good thing I waited. Thanks for posting the updated odds Livian!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Livan33:

    Does not say BLM is down to -260.

    Is anyone worried about this line movement?

    Not at all.

    Those speeches are written well in advance. To put those words in his speech would be a direct provocation against BLM.

    Here is Don Lemon attempting to get him to say something about BLM.

    https://youtu.be/-_u4QLK8R-E

    . He won't say the words. I can't remember the last time he said the three words never mind put it in the most important speech of his life. And for what? To incite more mass protest by addressing them directly?

    -260 is still a heavy, heavy favorite.

    At +260, if worry. Not at -260. And it's a good thing I waited. Thanks for posting the updated odds Livian!


     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 10:36 PM ET #11

    Ted Cruz just said Lebron James. WOW. Guess Cruz doesn't watch the Espy's (or have speech writers that do either).
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    Ted Cruz just said Lebron James. WOW. Guess Cruz doesn't watch the Espy's (or have speech writers that do either).
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    Slightly off topic but it's pretty much going like this:

    Romney won 94% of the Republican vote. 71% of the white vote. Independent vote win margin of over 5% and still was crushed. 
    Trump has nothing near those figures and won't come close.

    He's done. 

    And despite that, to show how squares move lines, Hillary is down from -320 to -265 on 5Dimes just because the RNC is occurring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

    Slightly off topic but it's pretty much going like this:

    Romney won 94% of the Republican vote. 71% of the white vote. Independent vote win margin of over 5% and still was crushed. 
    Trump has nothing near those figures and won't come close.

    He's done. 

    And despite that, to show how squares move lines, Hillary is down from -320 to -265 on 5Dimes just because the RNC is occurring.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    And despite that, to show how squares move lines, Hillary is down from -320 to -265 on 5Dimes just because the RNC is occurring.

    back up the truck on that line. Hillary wins in the GE before votes reach New Mexico.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    And despite that, to show how squares move lines, Hillary is down from -320 to -265 on 5Dimes just because the RNC is occurring.

    back up the truck on that line. Hillary wins in the GE before votes reach New Mexico.
     
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    Ya know back to the point you made on Romney, his post-loss conference call was fairly amazing.

    His top aide was boasting about how much of the white vote he won, that he 'dominated', and he did.

    And he got crushed overall and the aide seemed to be sweeping that under the rug, as though the path to the white still goes through that demographic and Romney should be proud of that.

    And what does Trump do? The exact same thing! And he'll pay with a loss in the exact same way!
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    Ya know back to the point you made on Romney, his post-loss conference call was fairly amazing.

    His top aide was boasting about how much of the white vote he won, that he 'dominated', and he did.

    And he got crushed overall and the aide seemed to be sweeping that under the rug, as though the path to the white still goes through that demographic and Romney should be proud of that.

    And what does Trump do? The exact same thing! And he'll pay with a loss in the exact same way!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 12:33 AM ET #15

    This is pro wrestling playing out at an a political convention.

    Cruz refusing to endorse Trump at the beginning of the video (and I have to say I admire him a bit for not kissing his a** like the rest who lost all their integrity endorsing him after bashing him for months) and Trump one-upping him by appearing in the crowd at the end of the video, DURING the speech, intentionally stealing the spotlight.

    Never seen anything like this. High comedy!

    https://youtu.be/Zoi8GM9teJ0
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    This is pro wrestling playing out at an a political convention.

    Cruz refusing to endorse Trump at the beginning of the video (and I have to say I admire him a bit for not kissing his a** like the rest who lost all their integrity endorsing him after bashing him for months) and Trump one-upping him by appearing in the crowd at the end of the video, DURING the speech, intentionally stealing the spotlight.

    Never seen anything like this. High comedy!

    https://youtu.be/Zoi8GM9teJ0
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 12:58 AM ET #16

    Trumps's purpose all along was just to win the GOP nomination for egotistical purposes among a very weak field.. He knew that anything further was impossible. 
    Quite a smart business move actually. Spend very little and make millions more post election. 
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    Trumps's purpose all along was just to win the GOP nomination for egotistical purposes among a very weak field.. He knew that anything further was impossible. 
    Quite a smart business move actually. Spend very little and make millions more post election. 
     
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    I don't think he was trying to win at all Search. It's far more likely he entered for the massive exposure and due to the field being one of the weakest ever, happened to win the GOP nomination. There were several times along the way he's said so many inflammatory things, I thought he was throwing the nomination. He had filled his attention/ego/exposure quota (the lunacy of 'we're gonna build a wall' being a perfect example). None of it worked against him and here we are.
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    I don't think he was trying to win at all Search. It's far more likely he entered for the massive exposure and due to the field being one of the weakest ever, happened to win the GOP nomination. There were several times along the way he's said so many inflammatory things, I thought he was throwing the nomination. He had filled his attention/ego/exposure quota (the lunacy of 'we're gonna build a wall' being a perfect example). None of it worked against him and here we are.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 11:42 PM ET #18

    Folks it was the easiest money you'll ever make.

    Can't believe I grabbed it at -275. Thanks Livian for the line update. I thought it would have went up to -700.

    Again, think about the ace starters who have blown up your MLB plays with similar lines and all you had to do to a 36% ROI or a 21% ROI depending on when you got in, was just betting on three words Trump hates to say more than saying the words Rosie O'Donell.

    Free money folks. Just take it when the books hand it to you even at big negative ML odds. It's not about value. It's about a gift from the books. Just take it.
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    Folks it was the easiest money you'll ever make.

    Can't believe I grabbed it at -275. Thanks Livian for the line update. I thought it would have went up to -700.

    Again, think about the ace starters who have blown up your MLB plays with similar lines and all you had to do to a 36% ROI or a 21% ROI depending on when you got in, was just betting on three words Trump hates to say more than saying the words Rosie O'Donell.

    Free money folks. Just take it when the books hand it to you even at big negative ML odds. It's not about value. It's about a gift from the books. Just take it.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 11:53 PM ET #19

    Other winners if you care:

    Trump says Bernie Sanders -120
    Trump does not say Lebron James -300
    Trump says Supreme Court -1050
    Trump says Obamacare -1500
    Trump says Clinton first -900

    All negative ML's hit (Excluding Bernie for which both were negative).

    Too bad ya can't parlay these suckers.

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    Other winners if you care:

    Trump says Bernie Sanders -120
    Trump does not say Lebron James -300
    Trump says Supreme Court -1050
    Trump says Obamacare -1500
    Trump says Clinton first -900

    All negative ML's hit (Excluding Bernie for which both were negative).

    Too bad ya can't parlay these suckers.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2016 - 7:17 AM ET #20

    Great hit Scal!! Thanks for sharing!
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    Great hit Scal!! Thanks for sharing!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2016 - 7:18 AM ET #21

    Great hit Scal!! Thanks for sharing!
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    Great hit Scal!! Thanks for sharing!
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Livan33:

    Great hit Scal!! Thanks for sharing!

    No thank you Livian. You alerted me to the best odds available after the initial post!

    Trump saying the words "Black Lives Matter" in the most important speech of his life. I have no idea how they figured out an opening line for that one but anything under -10,000 was too low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Livan33:

    Great hit Scal!! Thanks for sharing!

    No thank you Livian. You alerted me to the best odds available after the initial post!

    Trump saying the words "Black Lives Matter" in the most important speech of his life. I have no idea how they figured out an opening line for that one but anything under -10,000 was too low.
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