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    Leaks or Whistle Blowers?

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    Midnight1
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2017 - 12:55 PM ET #1

    The phone transcripts of discussions between President Sniffles & the Prime Minister of Australia as well as one with the President of Mexico are alarming to say the least.

    They show a weakened President begging for help & then becoming very ugly.

    Personally I've had enough of the leaks that prove our President is out of control. Our allies are seriously concerned with the lies & emotional outbursts being reported.We have no idea what else is being leaked.

    What we have seen so far I don't believed has been classified information. I've always viewed whistle blowers to be honorable people whereas leakers seem to have an ax to grind.

    What say you all?

       
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    The phone transcripts of discussions between President Sniffles & the Prime Minister of Australia as well as one with the President of Mexico are alarming to say the least.

    They show a weakened President begging for help & then becoming very ugly.

    Personally I've had enough of the leaks that prove our President is out of control. Our allies are seriously concerned with the lies & emotional outbursts being reported.We have no idea what else is being leaked.

    What we have seen so far I don't believed has been classified information. I've always viewed whistle blowers to be honorable people whereas leakers seem to have an ax to grind.

    What say you all?

       
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2017 - 1:25 PM ET #2

    Leakers.
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    Leakers.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2017 - 2:51 PM ET #3

    "We will build a great wall along the southern border and Mexico WILL PAY for the wall"--Donald J Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1325329/Trump-build-great-wall-Mexico-pay.html

    At the end of the day, the American taxpayers but not Mexico will pay for the wall.  


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    "We will build a great wall along the southern border and Mexico WILL PAY for the wall"--Donald J Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1325329/Trump-build-great-wall-Mexico-pay.html

    At the end of the day, the American taxpayers but not Mexico will pay for the wall.  


     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2017 - 4:32 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    "We will build a great wall along the southern border and Mexico WILL PAY for the wall"--Donald J Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1325329/Trump-build-great-wall-Mexico-pay.html

    At the end of the day, the American taxpayers but not Mexico will pay for the wall.  



    If I get tired of my neighbor's dog coming onto my property and sh!tting, and I decide to build a fence, I don't get the neighbor to pay for it. I just build the damn fence. I'm not comparing Mexican's to dogs, it's just an analogy. If I get tired of my neighbor's kids coming onto my property and sh!tting....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    "We will build a great wall along the southern border and Mexico WILL PAY for the wall"--Donald J Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1325329/Trump-build-great-wall-Mexico-pay.html

    At the end of the day, the American taxpayers but not Mexico will pay for the wall.  



    If I get tired of my neighbor's dog coming onto my property and sh!tting, and I decide to build a fence, I don't get the neighbor to pay for it. I just build the damn fence. I'm not comparing Mexican's to dogs, it's just an analogy. If I get tired of my neighbor's kids coming onto my property and sh!tting....
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2017 - 4:47 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:


    If I get tired of my neighbor's dog coming onto my property and sh!tting, and I decide to build a fence, I don't get the neighbor to pay for it. I just build the damn fence. I'm not comparing Mexican's to dogs, it's just an analogy. If I get tired of my neighbor's kids coming onto my property and sh!tting....

    Then you don't proclaim your neighbor is gonna pay for it in the first hand, you just say you are paying for it and that's fine. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:


    If I get tired of my neighbor's dog coming onto my property and sh!tting, and I decide to build a fence, I don't get the neighbor to pay for it. I just build the damn fence. I'm not comparing Mexican's to dogs, it's just an analogy. If I get tired of my neighbor's kids coming onto my property and sh!tting....

    Then you don't proclaim your neighbor is gonna pay for it in the first hand, you just say you are paying for it and that's fine. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2017 - 4:49 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:


    If I get tired of my neighbor's dog coming onto my property and sh!tting, and I decide to build a fence, I don't get the neighbor to pay for it. I just build the damn fence. I'm not comparing Mexican's to dogs, it's just an analogy. If I get tired of my neighbor's kids coming onto my property and sh!tting....


    If its a Great fence you at least split the cost. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:


    If I get tired of my neighbor's dog coming onto my property and sh!tting, and I decide to build a fence, I don't get the neighbor to pay for it. I just build the damn fence. I'm not comparing Mexican's to dogs, it's just an analogy. If I get tired of my neighbor's kids coming onto my property and sh!tting....


    If its a Great fence you at least split the cost. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2017 - 4:59 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by VanDutch:



    If its a Great fence you at least split the cost. 

    I don't split it. The neighbors don't mind if their dogs....kids poop in my yard. Less poop for them to clean up. I build it for my own peace of mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanDutch:



    If its a Great fence you at least split the cost. 

    I don't split it. The neighbors don't mind if their dogs....kids poop in my yard. Less poop for them to clean up. I build it for my own peace of mind.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2017 - 10:59 PM ET #8

    Build your fence somewhere else other than this thread dammit.

    Leakers or whistle blowers?
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    Build your fence somewhere else other than this thread dammit.

    Leakers or whistle blowers?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2017 - 11:37 PM ET #9

    Whistle-blowers 

    Whistle-blowers expose any kind of activity or information that is deemed illegal or unethical

    Dishonest,deceitful,corrupt administration 


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    Whistle-blowers 

    Whistle-blowers expose any kind of activity or information that is deemed illegal or unethical

    Dishonest,deceitful,corrupt administration 


     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2017 - 11:55 PM ET #10

    Referring to the Mexican president’s insistence that he would not pay for the wall, Trump said: “You cannot say that to the press. The press is going to go with that and I cannot live with that. You cannot say that to the press because I cannot negotiate under those circumstances.”

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    Referring to the Mexican president’s insistence that he would not pay for the wall, Trump said: “You cannot say that to the press. The press is going to go with that and I cannot live with that. You cannot say that to the press because I cannot negotiate under those circumstances.”

     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2017 - 12:00 AM ET #11

    The leaks are hardly surprising.  I wouldn't really call it a deep state but more discontent.  Trump can just fire all the Democrats working in government if he wants to be extreme but I think some of these people are Republicans as well.  Working for someone like Trump who doesn't really respect or care about you and may fire you on a whim probably rubs some of these people the wrong way.  I expect it to continue and I hope so because I'd love to be able to read more transcripts. 
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    The leaks are hardly surprising.  I wouldn't really call it a deep state but more discontent.  Trump can just fire all the Democrats working in government if he wants to be extreme but I think some of these people are Republicans as well.  Working for someone like Trump who doesn't really respect or care about you and may fire you on a whim probably rubs some of these people the wrong way.  I expect it to continue and I hope so because I'd love to be able to read more transcripts. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2017 - 7:19 AM ET #12

    Traitors
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    Traitors
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2017 - 8:50 AM ET #13

    Leakers of National Security intel are engaging in a criminal action.
    As much as I am against Trunp he is right to take action since we are talking about national security.
    Similarly Edward Snowden is a criminal.
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    Leakers of National Security intel are engaging in a criminal action.
    As much as I am against Trunp he is right to take action since we are talking about national security.
    Similarly Edward Snowden is a criminal.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2017 - 2:48 PM ET #14

    One-way loyalty has consequences.  Trump's vicious, mercurial temper and erratic behavior have inculcated a Presidency that is chaotic and unstable.  Nobody can feel secure in their positions seeing the contemptuous, belittling way Trump has treated Sessions, his strongest Senate ally during the campaign.
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    One-way loyalty has consequences.  Trump's vicious, mercurial temper and erratic behavior have inculcated a Presidency that is chaotic and unstable.  Nobody can feel secure in their positions seeing the contemptuous, belittling way Trump has treated Sessions, his strongest Senate ally during the campaign.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2017 - 8:25 PM ET #15

    Before Sessions was approved for AG liberal critics smeared him and accused him of racist behavior and comments..but now the left comes running to defend his faults .....

    Several months ago, Democrats were calling on Sessions to resign due to statements he made during his confirmation hearing about past interactions with Russian leaders..now Democrats are Sessions allies trying to protect him against President Trump..

    President Trump tapped Sessions as his AG...he was the first person selected by the President to a Cabinet-level position in the new administration..and one of his most loyal supporters..

    Now.. loyalty may go a long way with President Trump...however if Sessions isn't delivering the goods the way the President want's and too weak for the task ..he will have to go...the Presidents agenda is more important. 
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    Before Sessions was approved for AG liberal critics smeared him and accused him of racist behavior and comments..but now the left comes running to defend his faults .....

    Several months ago, Democrats were calling on Sessions to resign due to statements he made during his confirmation hearing about past interactions with Russian leaders..now Democrats are Sessions allies trying to protect him against President Trump..

    President Trump tapped Sessions as his AG...he was the first person selected by the President to a Cabinet-level position in the new administration..and one of his most loyal supporters..

    Now.. loyalty may go a long way with President Trump...however if Sessions isn't delivering the goods the way the President want's and too weak for the task ..he will have to go...the Presidents agenda is more important. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 8, 2017 - 10:10 PM ET #16

    They are protecting the position not Sessions. 

    What is President Blunder's agenda?

    Healthcare.....Nope.
    The Wall....Nope
    Voter Fraud...Nope
    Immigration Reform...Nope
    Wouldn't Bomb Syria...Nope
    Drain the Swamp..Nope
    Repeal Obamacare...Nope
    Release Tax Returns...Nope
    Divest Himself from Businesses...Nope
    Middle Class Tax Relief...Nope
    Lies.....Plenty!

    Loyalty? From Whom? He attacks & insults cabinet members, intelligence agencies, his generals, congress members of both parties, the FBI,  leaders of our allies etc etc. Loyalty is earned & he has earned diddly. You can't demand it & you can't buy it . You can't lead by fear & intimidation while expecting loyalty from others.

    He's got to go. 
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    They are protecting the position not Sessions. 

    What is President Blunder's agenda?

    Healthcare.....Nope.
    The Wall....Nope
    Voter Fraud...Nope
    Immigration Reform...Nope
    Wouldn't Bomb Syria...Nope
    Drain the Swamp..Nope
    Repeal Obamacare...Nope
    Release Tax Returns...Nope
    Divest Himself from Businesses...Nope
    Middle Class Tax Relief...Nope
    Lies.....Plenty!

    Loyalty? From Whom? He attacks & insults cabinet members, intelligence agencies, his generals, congress members of both parties, the FBI,  leaders of our allies etc etc. Loyalty is earned & he has earned diddly. You can't demand it & you can't buy it . You can't lead by fear & intimidation while expecting loyalty from others.

    He's got to go. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2017 - 1:54 AM ET #17

    The Attorney General serves at the pleasure of the president not Democrat members of Congress...

    President Donald Trump has already fired a defiant acting Attorney General of the United States....Sally Yates.

    Presidents expect their policy program to be carried out by the people they have appointed,,and the President alone has the authority to fire an appointee and has control over every member of the executive branch this was established by America's very first President..

     ...
    ...The Democrats in Congress no matter how hard they try ..cannot protect the position of Attorney General..

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    The Attorney General serves at the pleasure of the president not Democrat members of Congress...

    President Donald Trump has already fired a defiant acting Attorney General of the United States....Sally Yates.

    Presidents expect their policy program to be carried out by the people they have appointed,,and the President alone has the authority to fire an appointee and has control over every member of the executive branch this was established by America's very first President..

     ...
    ...The Democrats in Congress no matter how hard they try ..cannot protect the position of Attorney General..

     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2017 - 2:02 AM ET #18

    In fact, if President Trump were to fire Jeff Sessions ..it wouldn't be the first time he was fired by a President...

    After his 1992 election President Bill Clinton fired then US attorney Jeff Sessions ...........

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    In fact, if President Trump were to fire Jeff Sessions ..it wouldn't be the first time he was fired by a President...

    After his 1992 election President Bill Clinton fired then US attorney Jeff Sessions ...........

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