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    Inconvenient fact: 2017 MAGA tariffs failed and caused more inflation

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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2025 - 12:33 AM ET #1

    Godless dotards are pretending that these tariffs are new and unprecedented. Please remember - Trump already instituted now-failed tariffs that hiked prices and caused inflation and bankrupted thousands of farmers. 

    Unfortunately Biden never rescinded these bottom-feeder, mouth-breather, drooler tariffs. So the godless morons who pretend that this is some cure also blatantly ignore that manufacturing NEVER RETURNED during Trump 1.0, and there is ZERO EVIDENCE anything will change for Trump 2.0. 

    I suspect he will probably have to hand out billions in subsidies - just like he did in 2019 - to avoid most of the country opposing him. 

    Tariffs are taxes on consumers and drive inflation. It doesn’t take a Masters degree to know that

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    Godless dotards are pretending that these tariffs are new and unprecedented. Please remember - Trump already instituted now-failed tariffs that hiked prices and caused inflation and bankrupted thousands of farmers. 

    Unfortunately Biden never rescinded these bottom-feeder, mouth-breather, drooler tariffs. So the godless morons who pretend that this is some cure also blatantly ignore that manufacturing NEVER RETURNED during Trump 1.0, and there is ZERO EVIDENCE anything will change for Trump 2.0. 

    I suspect he will probably have to hand out billions in subsidies - just like he did in 2019 - to avoid most of the country opposing him. 

    Tariffs are taxes on consumers and drive inflation. It doesn’t take a Masters degree to know that

     
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    Posted: Apr. 4, 2025 - 1:47 AM ET #2

    An uninhabited island, a military base and a ‘desolate’ former whaling station.

    Trump’s tariffs include unlikely targets surprised

     

    THIS IS TRUMP's IDEA of WINNING!!! an_woo

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    An uninhabited island, a military base and a ‘desolate’ former whaling station.

    Trump’s tariffs include unlikely targets surprised

     

    THIS IS TRUMP's IDEA of WINNING!!! an_woo

     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2025 - 10:31 AM ET #3

    Inconvenient fact???

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/steel-industry-groups-urge-biden-keep-tariffs-place-after-eu-truce-2021-05-19/

    https://thehill.com/policy/finance/554351-steel-trade-groups-union-call-on-biden-to-leave-tariffs-intact/

    https://usw.org/press-release/steel-industry-and-labor-urge-biden-to-keep-steel-tariffs-in-place/

    Trump saved the US steel industry and protected farmers when China targeted them.

    new_devil

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    Inconvenient fact???

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/steel-industry-groups-urge-biden-keep-tariffs-place-after-eu-truce-2021-05-19/

    https://thehill.com/policy/finance/554351-steel-trade-groups-union-call-on-biden-to-leave-tariffs-intact/

    https://usw.org/press-release/steel-industry-and-labor-urge-biden-to-keep-steel-tariffs-in-place/

    Trump saved the US steel industry and protected farmers when China targeted them.

    new_devil

     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2025 - 12:54 PM ET #4

    Biden and Trump have different approaches to taxing imports.  Trump is reckless in  imposes higher tariffs to a wide range of goods for many countries.  However Biden targets few countries and goods for higher tariffs.  Favoring a combination of investment and enforcement in key sectors.  Trump didn't invest and failed to secure China's promised purchases or unfair trade practices. Most economists believe tariffs should be used sparingly or not at all. 

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    Biden and Trump have different approaches to taxing imports.  Trump is reckless in  imposes higher tariffs to a wide range of goods for many countries.  However Biden targets few countries and goods for higher tariffs.  Favoring a combination of investment and enforcement in key sectors.  Trump didn't invest and failed to secure China's promised purchases or unfair trade practices. Most economists believe tariffs should be used sparingly or not at all. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Biden and Trump have different approaches to taxing imports.  Trump is reckless in  imposes higher tariffs to a wide range of goods for many countries.  However Biden targets few countries and goods for higher tariffs.  Favoring a combination of investment and enforcement in key sectors.  Trump didn't invest and failed to secure China's promised purchases or unfair trade practices. Most economists believe tariffs should be used sparingly or not at all.

    come on trumpy gets his economic advise from peter navarro and his made up economist ron varra(who is himan_roll_laugh)

    Cant make this shit up

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Biden and Trump have different approaches to taxing imports.  Trump is reckless in  imposes higher tariffs to a wide range of goods for many countries.  However Biden targets few countries and goods for higher tariffs.  Favoring a combination of investment and enforcement in key sectors.  Trump didn't invest and failed to secure China's promised purchases or unfair trade practices. Most economists believe tariffs should be used sparingly or not at all.

    come on trumpy gets his economic advise from peter navarro and his made up economist ron varra(who is himan_roll_laugh)

    Cant make this shit up

     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2025 - 6:09 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    An uninhabited island, a military base and a ‘desolate’ former whaling station. Trump’s tariffs include unlikely targets   THIS IS TRUMP's IDEA of WINNING!!!

    If those things dont show with 100 percent clarity that our country is being run by complete brainless idiots, nothing will.

    Economists have said that the formula trumpy used for the tariffs is little kid shit and makes zero sense.

    Putting a tariff on an island where penguins live lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooo.  The maga moron cult members will defend that thou

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    An uninhabited island, a military base and a ‘desolate’ former whaling station. Trump’s tariffs include unlikely targets   THIS IS TRUMP's IDEA of WINNING!!!

    If those things dont show with 100 percent clarity that our country is being run by complete brainless idiots, nothing will.

    Economists have said that the formula trumpy used for the tariffs is little kid shit and makes zero sense.

    Putting a tariff on an island where penguins live lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooo.  The maga moron cult members will defend that thou

     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2025 - 5:47 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Godless dotards are pretending that these tariffs are new and unprecedented. Please remember - Trump already instituted now-failed tariffs that hiked prices and caused inflation and bankrupted thousands of farmers.  Unfortunately Biden never rescinded these bottom-feeder, mouth-breather, drooler tariffs. So the godless morons who pretend that this is some cure also blatantly ignore that manufacturing NEVER RETURNED during Trump 1.0, and there is ZERO EVIDENCE anything will change for Trump 2.0.  I suspect he will probably have to hand out billions in subsidies - just like he did in 2019 - to avoid most of the country opposing him.  Tariffs are taxes on consumers and drive inflation. It doesn’t take a Masters degree to know that

    Hmmmm, all the lefty news outlets say farmers took it on the chin.

    Yet farming communities voted overwhelmingly for Trump in 2024. Two percent higher, 76 to 78%, than in 2020. 

    Doesn't seem likely, does it. an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Godless dotards are pretending that these tariffs are new and unprecedented. Please remember - Trump already instituted now-failed tariffs that hiked prices and caused inflation and bankrupted thousands of farmers.  Unfortunately Biden never rescinded these bottom-feeder, mouth-breather, drooler tariffs. So the godless morons who pretend that this is some cure also blatantly ignore that manufacturing NEVER RETURNED during Trump 1.0, and there is ZERO EVIDENCE anything will change for Trump 2.0.  I suspect he will probably have to hand out billions in subsidies - just like he did in 2019 - to avoid most of the country opposing him.  Tariffs are taxes on consumers and drive inflation. It doesn’t take a Masters degree to know that

    Hmmmm, all the lefty news outlets say farmers took it on the chin.

    Yet farming communities voted overwhelmingly for Trump in 2024. Two percent higher, 76 to 78%, than in 2020. 

    Doesn't seem likely, does it. an_light

     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2025 - 6:13 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Godless dotards are pretending that these tariffs are new and unprecedented. Please remember - Trump already instituted now-failed tariffs that hiked prices and caused inflation and bankrupted thousands of farmers.  Unfortunately Biden never rescinded these bottom-feeder, mouth-breather, drooler tariffs. So the godless morons who pretend that this is some cure also blatantly ignore that manufacturing NEVER RETURNED during Trump 1.0, and there is ZERO EVIDENCE anything will change for Trump 2.0.  I suspect he will probably have to hand out billions in subsidies - just like he did in 2019 - to avoid most of the country opposing him.  Tariffs are taxes on consumers and drive inflation. It doesn’t take a Masters degree to know that Hmmmm, all the lefty news outlets say farmers took it on the chin. Yet farming communities voted overwhelmingly for Trump in 2024. Two percent higher, 76 to 78%, than in 2020.  Doesn't seem likely, does it.

    Once again you are full of crap and only posted that to cause trouble.  I have no idea why you havent been sent packing.

    The farmers voted for him, for one they are maga morons, secondly the biggest reason is they got billions and billions of farm aid.  All us tax payers bailed out the farmers because of trumps tariffs.  one year they gave the farmers 28 billion of my tax dollars to help these maga morons.  Who you think their gonna vote for, when the guy was bailing them out every year.  If trump wasnt bailing them out, you can bet your ass they would be after him and the republicans with pitch forks.  Farming the only occupation, you can show a loss every year and dont have to worry about getting audit.  Your game really is getting old now.  Maybe look for a new hobby, instead of just being a troublemaker daily.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2020/01/21/trump-tariff-aid-to-farmers-cost-more-than-us-nuclear-forces/

    More money given away to these maga moron farmers then anywhere else.an_shake

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch: Godless dotards are pretending that these tariffs are new and unprecedented. Please remember - Trump already instituted now-failed tariffs that hiked prices and caused inflation and bankrupted thousands of farmers.  Unfortunately Biden never rescinded these bottom-feeder, mouth-breather, drooler tariffs. So the godless morons who pretend that this is some cure also blatantly ignore that manufacturing NEVER RETURNED during Trump 1.0, and there is ZERO EVIDENCE anything will change for Trump 2.0.  I suspect he will probably have to hand out billions in subsidies - just like he did in 2019 - to avoid most of the country opposing him.  Tariffs are taxes on consumers and drive inflation. It doesn’t take a Masters degree to know that Hmmmm, all the lefty news outlets say farmers took it on the chin. Yet farming communities voted overwhelmingly for Trump in 2024. Two percent higher, 76 to 78%, than in 2020.  Doesn't seem likely, does it.

    Once again you are full of crap and only posted that to cause trouble.  I have no idea why you havent been sent packing.

    The farmers voted for him, for one they are maga morons, secondly the biggest reason is they got billions and billions of farm aid.  All us tax payers bailed out the farmers because of trumps tariffs.  one year they gave the farmers 28 billion of my tax dollars to help these maga morons.  Who you think their gonna vote for, when the guy was bailing them out every year.  If trump wasnt bailing them out, you can bet your ass they would be after him and the republicans with pitch forks.  Farming the only occupation, you can show a loss every year and dont have to worry about getting audit.  Your game really is getting old now.  Maybe look for a new hobby, instead of just being a troublemaker daily.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2020/01/21/trump-tariff-aid-to-farmers-cost-more-than-us-nuclear-forces/

    More money given away to these maga moron farmers then anywhere else.an_shake

     

     

     
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    "UNIMAN disclaimer folks.  Just so everybody knows he admitted to basically being here to troll others and cause trouble.  Even if 100 percent wrong will never admit it. These are his words not mine. I will remind fellow posters every timean_shake"

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    "UNIMAN disclaimer folks.  Just so everybody knows he admitted to basically being here to troll others and cause trouble.  Even if 100 percent wrong will never admit it. These are his words not mine. I will remind fellow posters every timean_shake"

     
     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2025 - 11:57 PM ET #10

    Its like crickets when you post real facts for trolls.  They always scatter and change topics.  They learn that in troll school 101.

    Still waiting why my tax dollar had to bail out farmers because trumpers tariffs did the damage to them.  Mine and everybody tax dollars went to bail out trump and the farmers.  28 frigging billion in that article i posted.  and you ask why did farmers vote for trump lmfaooooo

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    Its like crickets when you post real facts for trolls.  They always scatter and change topics.  They learn that in troll school 101.

    Still waiting why my tax dollar had to bail out farmers because trumpers tariffs did the damage to them.  Mine and everybody tax dollars went to bail out trump and the farmers.  28 frigging billion in that article i posted.  and you ask why did farmers vote for trump lmfaooooo

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