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    Forget voter ID---Now it's rigged machines

    JimmyDrizzl
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    JimmyDrizzl
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2016 - 12:15 PM ET #1

    Fellow citizens--We are doomed---No other way to say it.

    The corrupt liberals control every aspect of the government and will not give up their control easily.

    When the FBI,  the justice department,  the IRS,  the lower federal courts,  the mainstream media and all the rest  of the government are in the  corrupt pockets of the liberals.....You figure it out.

    They "rigged" their system to oust Bernie....They somehow "rigged" the FBI to get Clinton not prosecuted....The attorney general of the United States... 100% "rigged"......Up and down every nook and cranny of the government .."rigged".

    What makes you think they will not "rig" the voting machines?

    HA, they already did it in 2012 in a big way...They got away with it then...Four years later they  seemingly will have only gotten better at it.

    They murder their defectors with impunity to keep the rest of their conspirators in line......You tell me how bad it is....This upcoming election is only a sham........The result is already pre-determined.....They have gotten that powerful over the last eight years........................Trump might be right if our elections are  already being "rigged" for November........Other prominent citizens might start calling for the Second amendment people to step in as well as Trump.

    This is the last election that could ever possibly matter....Once the Supreme court gets a new makeover from the corrupt liberals and your guns are taken away...IT'S OVER FOR GOOD...

    Reply
    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    Fellow citizens--We are doomed---No other way to say it.

    The corrupt liberals control every aspect of the government and will not give up their control easily.

    When the FBI,  the justice department,  the IRS,  the lower federal courts,  the mainstream media and all the rest  of the government are in the  corrupt pockets of the liberals.....You figure it out.

    They "rigged" their system to oust Bernie....They somehow "rigged" the FBI to get Clinton not prosecuted....The attorney general of the United States... 100% "rigged"......Up and down every nook and cranny of the government .."rigged".

    What makes you think they will not "rig" the voting machines?

    HA, they already did it in 2012 in a big way...They got away with it then...Four years later they  seemingly will have only gotten better at it.

    They murder their defectors with impunity to keep the rest of their conspirators in line......You tell me how bad it is....This upcoming election is only a sham........The result is already pre-determined.....They have gotten that powerful over the last eight years........................Trump might be right if our elections are  already being "rigged" for November........Other prominent citizens might start calling for the Second amendment people to step in as well as Trump.

    This is the last election that could ever possibly matter....Once the Supreme court gets a new makeover from the corrupt liberals and your guns are taken away...IT'S OVER FOR GOOD...

     
    dl36
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2016 - 1:16 PM ET #2

    Ummmmm what?


    Losing is one thing

    Being s poor loser is another 

    But being a loser like this that refuses to take any personal accountability and responsibility for their own party nominating trump who is both unelectable and unfit to be president as the reason why they have no chance and instead is playing the old "al sharpton routine" crying out injustice that things are rigged and unfair really takes being a loser to another level...

    It is truly a culture war we are in of those that believe in personal responsibility and accountability and those that seek to blame anything and everything other themselves and their own party.

    Sad really 


    Reply
    Ummmmm what?


    Losing is one thing

    Being s poor loser is another 

    But being a loser like this that refuses to take any personal accountability and responsibility for their own party nominating trump who is both unelectable and unfit to be president as the reason why they have no chance and instead is playing the old "al sharpton routine" crying out injustice that things are rigged and unfair really takes being a loser to another level...

    It is truly a culture war we are in of those that believe in personal responsibility and accountability and those that seek to blame anything and everything other themselves and their own party.

    Sad really 


     
    bowlslit
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2016 - 2:39 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Ummmmm what?


    Losing is one thing

    Being s poor loser is another 

    But being a loser like this that refuses to take any personal accountability and responsibility for their own party nominating trump who is both unelectable and unfit to be president as the reason why they have no chance and instead is playing the old "al sharpton routine" crying out injustice that things are rigged and unfair really takes being a loser to another level...

    It is truly a culture war we are in of those that believe in personal responsibility and accountability and those that seek to blame anything and everything other themselves and their own party.

    Sad really 




    Where have you been hiding?

    All of the things he brought up have actually happened. Just because you've been in the Penalty Box for the last month and a half doesn't mean the rest of the world lived in your fantasy land too.

    It's even more funny that the term fantasy land is your personal term. Massive Irony that it is your head that is buried in the sand trying desperately to make us believe that reality is fake.

    Those things did happen and you just may be too ignorant or desperate to notice or acknowledge.
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Ummmmm what?


    Losing is one thing

    Being s poor loser is another 

    But being a loser like this that refuses to take any personal accountability and responsibility for their own party nominating trump who is both unelectable and unfit to be president as the reason why they have no chance and instead is playing the old "al sharpton routine" crying out injustice that things are rigged and unfair really takes being a loser to another level...

    It is truly a culture war we are in of those that believe in personal responsibility and accountability and those that seek to blame anything and everything other themselves and their own party.

    Sad really 




    Where have you been hiding?

    All of the things he brought up have actually happened. Just because you've been in the Penalty Box for the last month and a half doesn't mean the rest of the world lived in your fantasy land too.

    It's even more funny that the term fantasy land is your personal term. Massive Irony that it is your head that is buried in the sand trying desperately to make us believe that reality is fake.

    Those things did happen and you just may be too ignorant or desperate to notice or acknowledge.
     
    Inyourlife16
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2016 - 3:06 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:

    Fellow citizens--We are doomed---No other way to say it.

    The corrupt liberals control every aspect of the government and will not give up their control easily.

    When the FBI,  the justice department,  the IRS,  the lower federal courts,  the mainstream media and all the rest  of the government are in the  corrupt pockets of the liberals.....You figure it out.

    They "rigged" their system to oust Bernie....They somehow "rigged" the FBI to get Clinton not prosecuted....The attorney general of the United States... 100% "rigged"......Up and down every nook and cranny of the government .."rigged".

    What makes you think they will not "rig" the voting machines?

    HA, they already did it in 2012 in a big way...They got away with it then...Four years later they  seemingly will have only gotten better at it.

    They murder their defectors with impunity to keep the rest of their conspirators in line......You tell me how bad it is....This upcoming election is only a sham........The result is already pre-determined.....They have gotten that powerful over the last eight years........................Trump might be right if our elections are  already being "rigged" for November........Other prominent citizens might start calling for the Second amendment people to step in as well as Trump.

    This is the last election that could ever possibly matter....Once the Supreme court gets a new makeover from the corrupt liberals and your guns are taken away...IT'S OVER FOR GOOD...


    I have magic beans for sale. Some people are saying that they are the most magical beans on the market. I'll give you a great deal if you are interested.
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyDrizzl:

    Fellow citizens--We are doomed---No other way to say it.

    The corrupt liberals control every aspect of the government and will not give up their control easily.

    When the FBI,  the justice department,  the IRS,  the lower federal courts,  the mainstream media and all the rest  of the government are in the  corrupt pockets of the liberals.....You figure it out.

    They "rigged" their system to oust Bernie....They somehow "rigged" the FBI to get Clinton not prosecuted....The attorney general of the United States... 100% "rigged"......Up and down every nook and cranny of the government .."rigged".

    What makes you think they will not "rig" the voting machines?

    HA, they already did it in 2012 in a big way...They got away with it then...Four years later they  seemingly will have only gotten better at it.

    They murder their defectors with impunity to keep the rest of their conspirators in line......You tell me how bad it is....This upcoming election is only a sham........The result is already pre-determined.....They have gotten that powerful over the last eight years........................Trump might be right if our elections are  already being "rigged" for November........Other prominent citizens might start calling for the Second amendment people to step in as well as Trump.

    This is the last election that could ever possibly matter....Once the Supreme court gets a new makeover from the corrupt liberals and your guns are taken away...IT'S OVER FOR GOOD...


    I have magic beans for sale. Some people are saying that they are the most magical beans on the market. I'll give you a great deal if you are interested.
     
    DogbiteWilliams
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2016 - 6:16 PM ET #5

    The Diebold machines have been used in 33 states.  They are NOT hack-proof as has been demonstrated in the documentary "Hacking Democracy":

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacking_Democracy

    Diebold is crooked as Hell:

    "Wherever Diebold and the other most well-known voting machine company Election Systems & Software (ES&S) go, irregularities and historic Republican upsets follow."

    These machines should be completely eliminated.  An iron-clad paper trail must be available so that all elections are reviewable and beyond reproach.

    Reply
    The Diebold machines have been used in 33 states.  They are NOT hack-proof as has been demonstrated in the documentary "Hacking Democracy":

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacking_Democracy

    Diebold is crooked as Hell:

    "Wherever Diebold and the other most well-known voting machine company Election Systems & Software (ES&S) go, irregularities and historic Republican upsets follow."

    These machines should be completely eliminated.  An iron-clad paper trail must be available so that all elections are reviewable and beyond reproach.

     
    thirdperson
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2016 - 6:29 PM ET #6

    According to uproxx, very unlikely for a national election to be rigged.  First, presidential elections involve millions of people and are likely the most monitored on Earth.  Second, hard to rigg every poll in every State.  Only a minority of States use voting machines.  Majority still rely on election workers auditing paper ballots. 

    Actually, elections are more likely to be rigged by buying or misleading voters.  But the most common method is to simply deny certain groups the right to vote.  For example, voting ID laws.
    Reply
    According to uproxx, very unlikely for a national election to be rigged.  First, presidential elections involve millions of people and are likely the most monitored on Earth.  Second, hard to rigg every poll in every State.  Only a minority of States use voting machines.  Majority still rely on election workers auditing paper ballots. 

    Actually, elections are more likely to be rigged by buying or misleading voters.  But the most common method is to simply deny certain groups the right to vote.  For example, voting ID laws.
     
     
    Last2thirst
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2016 - 12:14 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    The Diebold machines have been used in 33 states.  They are NOT hack-proof as has been demonstrated in the documentary "
    Hacking Democracy":

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacking_Democracy

    Diebold is crooked as Hell:

    "Wherever Diebold and the other most well-known voting machine company Election Systems & Software (ES&S) go, irregularities and historic Republican upsets follow."

    These machines should be completely eliminated.  An iron-clad paper trail must be available so that all elections are reviewable and beyond reproach.


    Correct!....some evidence to support what you are saying:

    https://disinfo.com/2013/10/voting-machine-manufacturer-diebold-charged-bribery-fraud-worldwide-pattern-criminal-conduct/

    https://freepress.org/article/who-owns-scytl-george-soros-isn%E2%80%99t-voting-machines-intelligence-community


    Scary:
    https://www.salon.com/2011/09/27/votinghack/

    https://truedemocracyparty.net/voting-machines/
    Proving is hard. Talk is easy.
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    The Diebold machines have been used in 33 states.  They are NOT hack-proof as has been demonstrated in the documentary "
    Hacking Democracy":

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacking_Democracy

    Diebold is crooked as Hell:

    "Wherever Diebold and the other most well-known voting machine company Election Systems & Software (ES&S) go, irregularities and historic Republican upsets follow."

    These machines should be completely eliminated.  An iron-clad paper trail must be available so that all elections are reviewable and beyond reproach.


    Correct!....some evidence to support what you are saying:

    https://disinfo.com/2013/10/voting-machine-manufacturer-diebold-charged-bribery-fraud-worldwide-pattern-criminal-conduct/

    https://freepress.org/article/who-owns-scytl-george-soros-isn%E2%80%99t-voting-machines-intelligence-community


    Scary:
    https://www.salon.com/2011/09/27/votinghack/

    https://truedemocracyparty.net/voting-machines/
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