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    Fact-Checking the First 2020 Presidential Debate

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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2020 - 9:02 PM ET #1

    https://youtu.be/tplMC4cqNbg

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    https://youtu.be/tplMC4cqNbg

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2020 - 9:03 PM ET #2

    The liar-in-Chief  can't stop lying

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    The liar-in-Chief  can't stop lying

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2020 - 9:16 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

    https://youtu.be/tplMC4cqNbg

     

    great video  thumbs_up

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

    https://youtu.be/tplMC4cqNbg

     

    great video  thumbs_up

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2020 - 9:28 PM ET #4

    According to the 1st 2020 Election debate transcript, Trump mentioned multiple times that Hunter Biden (VP/Presidentail Candidate Joe Biden's son) received 3.5 millions dollars

    from the wife of Moscow's mayor

     

    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-joe-biden-1st-presidential-debate-transcript-2020

     

    FACTS

     

    The payment the president was referring to was an allegation detailed in a recent report into Hunter Biden’s dealings in Ukraine released by Sens. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.) and Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) last week, which was criticized for being politically motivated and resurfacing old claims that were initially raised during the Senate impeachment trial.

    The report alleges an investment firm Hunter Biden “co-founded,” Rosemont Seneca Thornton, received “$3.5 million in a wire transfer from Elena Baturina, who allegedly received illegal construction contracts from her husband, the former mayor of Moscow.”

    The alleged payment to the investment firm was part of a “consultancy agreement” with Baturina, though the report does not claim there’s anything illegal about the transaction.

    Hunter’s lawyer, George Mesires, told the Washington Post Biden was not a “co-founder” of the investment firm and had “no interest in it”—and therefore [the] claim that he was paid $3.5 million is false.”

     

     

     

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    According to the 1st 2020 Election debate transcript, Trump mentioned multiple times that Hunter Biden (VP/Presidentail Candidate Joe Biden's son) received 3.5 millions dollars

    from the wife of Moscow's mayor

     

    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-joe-biden-1st-presidential-debate-transcript-2020

     

    FACTS

     

    The payment the president was referring to was an allegation detailed in a recent report into Hunter Biden’s dealings in Ukraine released by Sens. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.) and Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) last week, which was criticized for being politically motivated and resurfacing old claims that were initially raised during the Senate impeachment trial.

    The report alleges an investment firm Hunter Biden “co-founded,” Rosemont Seneca Thornton, received “$3.5 million in a wire transfer from Elena Baturina, who allegedly received illegal construction contracts from her husband, the former mayor of Moscow.”

    The alleged payment to the investment firm was part of a “consultancy agreement” with Baturina, though the report does not claim there’s anything illegal about the transaction.

    Hunter’s lawyer, George Mesires, told the Washington Post Biden was not a “co-founder” of the investment firm and had “no interest in it”—and therefore [the] claim that he was paid $3.5 million is false.”

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2020 - 9:29 PM ET #5

    President Donald J. Trump: (22:09)
    China ate your lunch, Joe. And no wonder your son goes in and he takes out billions of dollars. He takes out billions of dollars to manage. He makes millions of dollars. And also, while we’re at it, why is it just out of curiosity, the mayor of Moscow’s wife gave you a son three and a half million dollars?

    Vice President Joe Biden: (22:28)
    That is not true.

    President Donald J. Trump: (22:28)
    What did he do to deserve it? What did he do with-

    Vice President Joe Biden: (22:31)
    None of that is true.

    President Donald J. Trump: (22:31)
    … to deserve $183,000?

    Chris Wallace: (22:31)
    Sir, you’ve asked him a question, let him answer it.

     

    Reply

    President Donald J. Trump: (22:09)
    China ate your lunch, Joe. And no wonder your son goes in and he takes out billions of dollars. He takes out billions of dollars to manage. He makes millions of dollars. And also, while we’re at it, why is it just out of curiosity, the mayor of Moscow’s wife gave you a son three and a half million dollars?

    Vice President Joe Biden: (22:28)
    That is not true.

    President Donald J. Trump: (22:28)
    What did he do to deserve it? What did he do with-

    Vice President Joe Biden: (22:31)
    None of that is true.

    President Donald J. Trump: (22:31)
    … to deserve $183,000?

    Chris Wallace: (22:31)
    Sir, you’ve asked him a question, let him answer it.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2020 - 9:29 PM ET #6

    Vice President Joe Biden: (22:37)
    None of that is true.

    President Donald J. Trump: (22:38)
    Oh really, he didn’t get three and a half million?

    Chris Wallace: (22:39)
    Mr. President-

    Vice President Joe Biden: (22:40)
    Is totally-

    Chris Wallace: (22:41)
    Mr. President, please. You’ve asked a question- [crosstalk 00:22:41]

    Vice President Joe Biden: (22:41)
    Totally discredited. Totally discredited. And by the way-

    President Donald J. Trump: (22:45)
    Well wait, he didn’t get three and a half million dollars, Joe?

     

    Reply

    Vice President Joe Biden: (22:37)
    None of that is true.

    President Donald J. Trump: (22:38)
    Oh really, he didn’t get three and a half million?

    Chris Wallace: (22:39)
    Mr. President-

    Vice President Joe Biden: (22:40)
    Is totally-

    Chris Wallace: (22:41)
    Mr. President, please. You’ve asked a question- [crosstalk 00:22:41]

    Vice President Joe Biden: (22:41)
    Totally discredited. Totally discredited. And by the way-

    President Donald J. Trump: (22:45)
    Well wait, he didn’t get three and a half million dollars, Joe?

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2020 - 9:44 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

    According to the 1st 2020 Election debate transcript, Trump mentioned multiple times that Hunter Biden (VP/Presidentail Candidate Joe Biden's son) received 3.5 millions dollars

    from the wife of Moscow's mayor

     

    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-joe-biden-1st-presidential-debate-transcript-2020

     

    FACTS

     

    The payment the president was referring to was an allegation detailed in a recent report into Hunter Biden’s dealings in Ukraine released by Sens. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.) and Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) last week, which was criticized for being politically motivated and resurfacing old claims that were initially raised during the Senate impeachment trial.

    The report alleges an investment firm Hunter Biden “co-founded,” Rosemont Seneca Thornton, received “$3.5 million in a wire transfer from Elena Baturina, who allegedly received illegal construction contracts from her husband, the former mayor of Moscow.”

    The alleged payment to the investment firm was part of a “consultancy agreement” with Baturina, though the report does not claim there’s anything illegal about the transaction.

    Hunter’s lawyer, George Mesires, told the Washington Post Biden was not a “co-founder” of the investment firm and had “no interest in it”—and therefore [the] claim that he was paid $3.5 million is false.”

     

    awesome factual post . the $3.5 million hoax exposed  thumbs_up as another rump lie

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

    According to the 1st 2020 Election debate transcript, Trump mentioned multiple times that Hunter Biden (VP/Presidentail Candidate Joe Biden's son) received 3.5 millions dollars

    from the wife of Moscow's mayor

     

    https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-joe-biden-1st-presidential-debate-transcript-2020

     

    FACTS

     

    The payment the president was referring to was an allegation detailed in a recent report into Hunter Biden’s dealings in Ukraine released by Sens. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.) and Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) last week, which was criticized for being politically motivated and resurfacing old claims that were initially raised during the Senate impeachment trial.

    The report alleges an investment firm Hunter Biden “co-founded,” Rosemont Seneca Thornton, received “$3.5 million in a wire transfer from Elena Baturina, who allegedly received illegal construction contracts from her husband, the former mayor of Moscow.”

    The alleged payment to the investment firm was part of a “consultancy agreement” with Baturina, though the report does not claim there’s anything illegal about the transaction.

    Hunter’s lawyer, George Mesires, told the Washington Post Biden was not a “co-founder” of the investment firm and had “no interest in it”—and therefore [the] claim that he was paid $3.5 million is false.”

     

    awesome factual post . the $3.5 million hoax exposed  thumbs_up as another rump lie

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2020 - 10:03 PM ET #8

    Where is Hunter Biden? 

    Why wasn’t he at the debate? 

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    Where is Hunter Biden? 

    Why wasn’t he at the debate? 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2020 - 10:05 PM ET #9

    Politico headline 9/16/20 

    Big Ten revives football season in Trump-backed turnaround

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    Politico headline 9/16/20 

    Big Ten revives football season in Trump-backed turnaround

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Politico headline 9/16/20  Big Ten revives football season in Trump-backed turnaround

     

    Big Ten League officials indicated in a news conference that starting the season was a result of advances in coronavirus testing and tracing capabilities.

    The conference also faced pressure from players and coaches to resume play and was grappling with lost revenue while some other leagues pressed on with their seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Politico headline 9/16/20  Big Ten revives football season in Trump-backed turnaround

     

    Big Ten League officials indicated in a news conference that starting the season was a result of advances in coronavirus testing and tracing capabilities.

    The conference also faced pressure from players and coaches to resume play and was grappling with lost revenue while some other leagues pressed on with their seasons.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2020 - 10:18 PM ET #11

    The report details multiple transactions between Hunter Biden, his uncle, James Biden, and James Biden’s wife, Sara, and entities associated with Ye Jianming, a businessman reportedly detained in China on suspicion of financial crimes, as well as Patrick Ho, an associate of Ye, who was convicted in 2019 of international bribery and money laundering.  

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    The report details multiple transactions between Hunter Biden, his uncle, James Biden, and James Biden’s wife, Sara, and entities associated with Ye Jianming, a businessman reportedly detained in China on suspicion of financial crimes, as well as Patrick Ho, an associate of Ye, who was convicted in 2019 of international bribery and money laundering.  

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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2020 - 10:19 PM ET #12

    Wednesday's revival delivers a victory for President Donald Trump, who has demanded sports resume in an athletic conference that represents several swing states ahead of Election Day. The president has even intervened with calls to the Big Ten's commissioner. Conference presidents and chancellors voted unanimously to resume the football season starting the weekend of Oct. 23.

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    Wednesday's revival delivers a victory for President Donald Trump, who has demanded sports resume in an athletic conference that represents several swing states ahead of Election Day. The president has even intervened with calls to the Big Ten's commissioner. Conference presidents and chancellors voted unanimously to resume the football season starting the weekend of Oct. 23.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2020 - 10:20 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Where is Hunter Biden?  Why wasn’t he at the debate?

     

    Why did Hunter Biden need to be there ?

     

    Trump’s fixation on Hunter Biden now stretches over a year; it was his request that the Ukrainian government open an investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden that led to Trump’s impeachment in 2019.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Where is Hunter Biden?  Why wasn’t he at the debate?

     

    Why did Hunter Biden need to be there ?

     

    Trump’s fixation on Hunter Biden now stretches over a year; it was his request that the Ukrainian government open an investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden that led to Trump’s impeachment in 2019.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2020 - 10:24 PM ET #14

    Why would he not be there? 

    Better things to do? 

    Or is the campaign ashamed of him/hiding him? 

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    Why would he not be there? 

    Better things to do? 

    Or is the campaign ashamed of him/hiding him? 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Wednesday's revival delivers a victory for President Donald Trump, who has demanded sports resume in an athletic conference that represents several swing states ahead of Election Day. The president has even intervened with calls to the Big Ten's commissioner. Conference presidents and chancellors voted unanimously to resume the football season starting the weekend of Oct. 23.

     

    NBC SPORTS

    “President Trump had nothing to do with our decision and did not impact the deliberations,” said the president of a Big Ten university who asked not to be identified, via NBC4 in Columbus.

    “In fact, when his name came up, it was a negative, because no one wanted this to be political.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Wednesday's revival delivers a victory for President Donald Trump, who has demanded sports resume in an athletic conference that represents several swing states ahead of Election Day. The president has even intervened with calls to the Big Ten's commissioner. Conference presidents and chancellors voted unanimously to resume the football season starting the weekend of Oct. 23.

     

    NBC SPORTS

    “President Trump had nothing to do with our decision and did not impact the deliberations,” said the president of a Big Ten university who asked not to be identified, via NBC4 in Columbus.

    “In fact, when his name came up, it was a negative, because no one wanted this to be political.”

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2020 - 10:27 PM ET #16

    I think we need hearings, the Biden’s under oath and an investigation. Sooner rather than later. 

    Because we know that is what would be happening right now if Don Jr was doing this stuff while his father was President. 

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    I think we need hearings, the Biden’s under oath and an investigation. Sooner rather than later. 

    Because we know that is what would be happening right now if Don Jr was doing this stuff while his father was President. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2020 - 10:29 PM ET #17

    Who cares what an anonymous Big Ten President says 

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    Who cares what an anonymous Big Ten President says 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2020 - 10:38 PM ET #18

    I stopped watching the video after it was clearly 0 for 1 

    Other than that and your misleading claims about Hunter Biden, this was a good thread 

    Well done 

    peace_5

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    I stopped watching the video after it was clearly 0 for 1 

    Other than that and your misleading claims about Hunter Biden, this was a good thread 

    Well done 

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2020 - 10:38 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

    President Donald J. Trump: (22:09)China ate your lunch, Joe. And no wonder your son goes in and he takes out billions of dollars. He takes out billions of dollars to manage. He makes millions of dollars. And also, while we’re at it, why is it just out of curiosity, the mayor of Moscow’s wife gave you a son three and a half million dollars? Vice President Joe Biden: (22:28)That is not true. President Donald J. Trump: (22:28)What did he do to deserve it? What did he do with- Vice President Joe Biden: (22:31)None of that is true. President Donald J. Trump: (22:31)… to deserve $183,000? Chris Wallace: (22:31)Sir, you’ve asked him a question, let him answer it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

    President Donald J. Trump: (22:09)China ate your lunch, Joe. And no wonder your son goes in and he takes out billions of dollars. He takes out billions of dollars to manage. He makes millions of dollars. And also, while we’re at it, why is it just out of curiosity, the mayor of Moscow’s wife gave you a son three and a half million dollars? Vice President Joe Biden: (22:28)That is not true. President Donald J. Trump: (22:28)What did he do to deserve it? What did he do with- Vice President Joe Biden: (22:31)None of that is true. President Donald J. Trump: (22:31)… to deserve $183,000? Chris Wallace: (22:31)Sir, you’ve asked him a question, let him answer it.

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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2020 - 10:53 PM ET #20

    Fact Check: Chris Wallace Falsely Claims Trump Set The Chaotic Tone w/ Debate Interruptions during a FoxNews Interview...

    CLAIM: Chris Wallace -- during an Interview on Fox News -- says President Trump started 'engaging with Biden... but it became clear, and clearer over time the President was determined to try to butt in or throw Joe Biden off."

    FALSE-- In the first 10 minutes of the debate: CHRIS WALLACE interrupted TRUMP 3 times. TRUMP did not interrupt WALLACE. BIDEN interrupted TRUMP 9 times. TRUMP interrupted BIDEN 1 time.

    THE TRUTH: JOE BIDEN and CHRIS WALLACE set the tone for the evening by interrupting TRUMP a combined total of 12 times in the first 10 minutes; while TRUMP clocked only a single interruption.

    Biden started the interruptions first and early on in the debate.
    Trump responded in kind.

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    Fact Check: Chris Wallace Falsely Claims Trump Set The Chaotic Tone w/ Debate Interruptions during a FoxNews Interview...

    CLAIM: Chris Wallace -- during an Interview on Fox News -- says President Trump started 'engaging with Biden... but it became clear, and clearer over time the President was determined to try to butt in or throw Joe Biden off."

    FALSE-- In the first 10 minutes of the debate: CHRIS WALLACE interrupted TRUMP 3 times. TRUMP did not interrupt WALLACE. BIDEN interrupted TRUMP 9 times. TRUMP interrupted BIDEN 1 time.

    THE TRUTH: JOE BIDEN and CHRIS WALLACE set the tone for the evening by interrupting TRUMP a combined total of 12 times in the first 10 minutes; while TRUMP clocked only a single interruption.

    Biden started the interruptions first and early on in the debate.
    Trump responded in kind.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2020 - 11:05 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

    Vice President Joe Biden: (22:37)None of that is true. President Donald J. Trump: (22:38)Oh really, he didn’t get three and a half million? Chris Wallace: (22:39)Mr. President- Vice President Joe Biden: (22:40)Is totally- Chris Wallace: (22:41)Mr. President, please. You’ve asked a question- [crosstalk 00:22:41] Vice President Joe Biden: (22:41)Totally discredited. Totally discredited. And by the way- President Donald J. Trump: (22:45)Well wait, he didn’t get three and a half million dollars, Joe?

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

    Vice President Joe Biden: (22:37)None of that is true. President Donald J. Trump: (22:38)Oh really, he didn’t get three and a half million? Chris Wallace: (22:39)Mr. President- Vice President Joe Biden: (22:40)Is totally- Chris Wallace: (22:41)Mr. President, please. You’ve asked a question- [crosstalk 00:22:41] Vice President Joe Biden: (22:41)Totally discredited. Totally discredited. And by the way- President Donald J. Trump: (22:45)Well wait, he didn’t get three and a half million dollars, Joe?

     

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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2020 - 11:07 PM ET #22

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    FOX News Chris Wallace:

    Trump 'bears the primary responsibility for what happened' at the debate
    'I had baked this beautiful, delicious cake and frankly,
    the president put his foot in it,' Wallace tells Bill Hemmer

    Wallace went on, "it became clear, and clearer over time that this
    was something different and that the president was determined
    to try to butt in or throw Joe Biden off ...

    I saw another FOX analysis that indicates the president interrupted
    either Biden's answers or my questions a total of 145 times.

    And he bears the primary responsibility for what happened on Tuesday night."
    "The American people because they didn't get the debate they wanted
    and that they deserved. And that's a loss for the country."

    FOX News source: https://tinyurl.com/y294dhbg

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    FOX News Chris Wallace:

    Trump 'bears the primary responsibility for what happened' at the debate
    'I had baked this beautiful, delicious cake and frankly,
    the president put his foot in it,' Wallace tells Bill Hemmer

    Wallace went on, "it became clear, and clearer over time that this
    was something different and that the president was determined
    to try to butt in or throw Joe Biden off ...

    I saw another FOX analysis that indicates the president interrupted
    either Biden's answers or my questions a total of 145 times.

    And he bears the primary responsibility for what happened on Tuesday night."
    "The American people because they didn't get the debate they wanted
    and that they deserved. And that's a loss for the country."

    FOX News source: https://tinyurl.com/y294dhbg

     

     

     

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2020 - 11:26 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Wednesday's revival delivers a victory for President Donald Trump, who has demanded sports resume in an athletic conference that represents several swing states ahead of Election Day. The president has even intervened with calls to the Big Ten's commissioner. Conference presidents and chancellors voted unanimously to resume the football season starting the weekend of Oct. 23.   NBC SPORTS “President Trump had nothing to do with our decision and did not impact the deliberations,” said the president of a Big Ten university who asked not to be identified, via NBC4 in Columbus. “In fact, when his name came up, it was a negative, because no one wanted this to be political.”

    Correct.

     

    Confirmed by sportingnews: trump had nothing to do with it

    According to a report by https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/dan-wolken/2020/09/16/big-ten-got-played-president-trump-and-hes-eager-celebrate/5821009002/ — citing sources with knowledge of Trump and Warren's discussion — the Big Ten did not request or accept any resources from the White House to help the conference return to football sooner. Instead, university presidents and chancellors made their decision based on information provided to them by the conference's "Return to Competition Task Force."

    Moreover, a Big Ten president — speaking on the condition of anonymity — told NBC News on Sept. 16 that Trump did not affect deliberations among Big Ten university presidents and chancellors.

    "President Trump had nothing to do with our decision and did not impact the deliberations," the anonymous president said. "In fact, when his name came up, it was a negative, because no one wanted this to be political."

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Wednesday's revival delivers a victory for President Donald Trump, who has demanded sports resume in an athletic conference that represents several swing states ahead of Election Day. The president has even intervened with calls to the Big Ten's commissioner. Conference presidents and chancellors voted unanimously to resume the football season starting the weekend of Oct. 23.   NBC SPORTS “President Trump had nothing to do with our decision and did not impact the deliberations,” said the president of a Big Ten university who asked not to be identified, via NBC4 in Columbus. “In fact, when his name came up, it was a negative, because no one wanted this to be political.”

    Correct.

     

    Confirmed by sportingnews: trump had nothing to do with it

    According to a report by https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/dan-wolken/2020/09/16/big-ten-got-played-president-trump-and-hes-eager-celebrate/5821009002/ — citing sources with knowledge of Trump and Warren's discussion — the Big Ten did not request or accept any resources from the White House to help the conference return to football sooner. Instead, university presidents and chancellors made their decision based on information provided to them by the conference's "Return to Competition Task Force."

    Moreover, a Big Ten president — speaking on the condition of anonymity — told NBC News on Sept. 16 that Trump did not affect deliberations among Big Ten university presidents and chancellors.

    "President Trump had nothing to do with our decision and did not impact the deliberations," the anonymous president said. "In fact, when his name came up, it was a negative, because no one wanted this to be political."

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