Posted:
#4001
@UNIMAN
I don't think that is surprising as most states IMO kept lousy records when they were overwhelmed, understaffed etc.
Covid-19 Good And Bad
Posted:
#4003
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: A beautiful 20 year old woman has her 2 legs amputated after developing myocarditis. The vaccine caused the myocarditis. (infowars.com) Fake news is from infowars a crackpot conspiracy website that has been banned by Facebook and Youtube according to media bias fact check. Newsweek reports that Claire Bridges has been born with a serious heart defect. Although vaccinated, she develops complications after covid infection. Heart inflammation, lung infection, kidney failure, restriction of blood circulation, leg pain and muscle damage. To save her life, doctors determine that legs are too severely damaged and need to be amputated. Her best friend tells media, "take covid seriously and realize it is not a joke."
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: A beautiful 20 year old woman has her 2 legs amputated after developing myocarditis. The vaccine caused the myocarditis. (infowars.com) Fake news is from infowars a crackpot conspiracy website that has been banned by Facebook and Youtube according to media bias fact check. Newsweek reports that Claire Bridges has been born with a serious heart defect. Although vaccinated, she develops complications after covid infection. Heart inflammation, lung infection, kidney failure, restriction of blood circulation, leg pain and muscle damage. To save her life, doctors determine that legs are too severely damaged and need to be amputated. Her best friend tells media, "take covid seriously and realize it is not a joke."
Actually the facts you list here on Claire Bridges are the same facts listed in the Infowar article. I see no fake news in this article. Now Sundance saying the vaccine caused the myocarditis is his opinion, that was never stated in the article.
Posted:
#4004
Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:
Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: @melossinglet 2550 Americans are dying per day of covid rn ..Ask their loved ones of its over ... Wake up brother that sucks..nobody is happy about any person dying...but guess what??PEOPLE DIE and they always have,shock horror!!..you can make up all the lies you want about YET ANOTHER one of your perfectly healthy 31 year old triathlete buddies that just keeled over and died in 24 hours of catching a case of the sniffles but we all know the actual data...average age of about 80 years old with an average # of co-morbidities of 4.these are the same fuccing people that ALWAYS dropped dead at a pretty high rate and that will likely always be the case.if it wasnt this that got them it would be a common cold or minor accident or injury.these are facts of life,it is utterly bizarre that you are now desperate to prolong the lives of such a demographic at ANY COST to society.....do you deny any of what ive just written or are you going to sit there,lying through your teeth and acting like normal healthy people are dropping dead in the streets all over the place from this???..again,its a shame whenever anyone passes away but this is nothing extraordinary.once you allow for the reduction of all the "fake" numbers of folk that died WITH corona instead of "of" corona and you understand that flu deaths basically disappeared then it is much harder to make a case for this being something to wail and panic about like its the greatest plague to ever befall us,the way that you like to do........also americans are an obese nation that are largely addicted to all kinds of drugs/medications and have a high incidence of immuno-ailments and high diabetes,respiratory issues etc. so it stands to reason that deaths might be quite high compared to other countries.if people spent the first several decades of their lives taking better care of themselves then they would have had a much higher chance to survive ANY illness/virus but nobody wants to hear that,do they??fuqq personal accountability,where is someone i can blame?? at what point do you recognise that the "cure" is going to be waaaay more costly than the disease with the number of lives,businesses and psyches of young children it has ruined??
Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: @melossinglet 2550 Americans are dying per day of covid rn ..Ask their loved ones of its over ... Wake up brother that sucks..nobody is happy about any person dying...but guess what??PEOPLE DIE and they always have,shock horror!!..you can make up all the lies you want about YET ANOTHER one of your perfectly healthy 31 year old triathlete buddies that just keeled over and died in 24 hours of catching a case of the sniffles but we all know the actual data...average age of about 80 years old with an average # of co-morbidities of 4.these are the same fuccing people that ALWAYS dropped dead at a pretty high rate and that will likely always be the case.if it wasnt this that got them it would be a common cold or minor accident or injury.these are facts of life,it is utterly bizarre that you are now desperate to prolong the lives of such a demographic at ANY COST to society.....do you deny any of what ive just written or are you going to sit there,lying through your teeth and acting like normal healthy people are dropping dead in the streets all over the place from this???..again,its a shame whenever anyone passes away but this is nothing extraordinary.once you allow for the reduction of all the "fake" numbers of folk that died WITH corona instead of "of" corona and you understand that flu deaths basically disappeared then it is much harder to make a case for this being something to wail and panic about like its the greatest plague to ever befall us,the way that you like to do........also americans are an obese nation that are largely addicted to all kinds of drugs/medications and have a high incidence of immuno-ailments and high diabetes,respiratory issues etc. so it stands to reason that deaths might be quite high compared to other countries.if people spent the first several decades of their lives taking better care of themselves then they would have had a much higher chance to survive ANY illness/virus but nobody wants to hear that,do they??fuqq personal accountability,where is someone i can blame?? at what point do you recognise that the "cure" is going to be waaaay more costly than the disease with the number of lives,businesses and psyches of young children it has ruined??
https://www.covers.com/forum/penalty-box-41/omicron-103606952/5
Time is a flat circle....
Posted:
#4005
@thirdperson
Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:
@thirdperson 7out, Doubleup4life, BWS77 and Vanzack are right. After 2 years, obviously pandemic is not a hoax or the flu. Sadly, there is also a infodemic of misinformation from Fox news and anti-vaxxers. Hospitals are overwhelmed with vast majority of covid patients unvaccinated especially in intensive care. Center for disease control or any top public health organization in the world confirms that unvaccinated people are far more likely to be hospitalized than the fully vaccinated. STFU you weasel.....its over,your masters have been caught out lying again and again and again and even the most obedient,compliant dolts are starting to see the light now after 2 years of over-reach and abuse of power......lies about the numbers hospitalised,numbers of deaths,efficacy of the "vaccine",efficacy of masks,harm done societally by lockdowns.its not like it was 8 months ago little fella.most people are just laughing as you spew your fear mongering manure.save your energy to promote the next phase of the big con. disgusting.
@thirdperson 7out, Doubleup4life, BWS77 and Vanzack are right. After 2 years, obviously pandemic is not a hoax or the flu. Sadly, there is also a infodemic of misinformation from Fox news and anti-vaxxers. Hospitals are overwhelmed with vast majority of covid patients unvaccinated especially in intensive care. Center for disease control or any top public health organization in the world confirms that unvaccinated people are far more likely to be hospitalized than the fully vaccinated. STFU you weasel.....its over,your masters have been caught out lying again and again and again and even the most obedient,compliant dolts are starting to see the light now after 2 years of over-reach and abuse of power......lies about the numbers hospitalised,numbers of deaths,efficacy of the "vaccine",efficacy of masks,harm done societally by lockdowns.its not like it was 8 months ago little fella.most people are just laughing as you spew your fear mongering manure.save your energy to promote the next phase of the big con. disgusting.
Time is a flat circle....
Posted:
#4006
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
So if 35% of the deaths are the vaccinated how in the hell are the unvaccinated 17 times more likely to be hospitalized? Factoring in the 66% vaxed, it would equate to about 25% of deaths are the vaccinated or 1 in 4.
So if 35% of the deaths are the vaccinated how in the hell are the unvaccinated 17 times more likely to be hospitalized? Factoring in the 66% vaxed, it would equate to about 25% of deaths are the vaccinated or 1 in 4.
To calculate probability, key is to adjust for difference in population in order to make direct comparisons. For example, unvaccinated adults are hospitalized at rate of 67.8 per 100,000 while fully vaccinated are hospitalized at rate of 3.9 per 100,000. So unvaccinated people are 17 times more likely to be hospitalized than the fully vaccinated. Vaccinated population is larger than unvaccinated population. But unvaccinated minority accounts for majority of hospitalizations especially in intensive care. According to Minnesota health department, unvaccinated people are 10 times more likely to be hospitalized.
Posted:
#4007
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Due to vaccinations. Due to vaccinations or due to the fact that Omicron was a less severe variant? Both vaccination and milder omicron variant contribute to hospitalization rates lower than in previous surges of infections. But unvaccinated people are 17 times more likely to be hospitalized from covid than the fully vaccinated according to department of health. Fortune reports Ipsos poll revealing omicron is making the unvaccinated rethink their opposition to vaccines. Majority support vaccine mandates in US, Australia, Italy, France and Germany. Even the unvaccinated see merit in some mandates. So a 22 year old college athlete who trains daily and is unvaxed is 17 times more likely to be hospitalized from covid then a 95 year old with the vax? Great logic. I haven't been in this thread much but I would guess a 95 year old without the vax is 17 times more likely to be hospitalized than a 95 year old with it. And so forth.
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Due to vaccinations. Due to vaccinations or due to the fact that Omicron was a less severe variant? Both vaccination and milder omicron variant contribute to hospitalization rates lower than in previous surges of infections. But unvaccinated people are 17 times more likely to be hospitalized from covid than the fully vaccinated according to department of health. Fortune reports Ipsos poll revealing omicron is making the unvaccinated rethink their opposition to vaccines. Majority support vaccine mandates in US, Australia, Italy, France and Germany. Even the unvaccinated see merit in some mandates. So a 22 year old college athlete who trains daily and is unvaxed is 17 times more likely to be hospitalized from covid then a 95 year old with the vax? Great logic. I haven't been in this thread much but I would guess a 95 year old without the vax is 17 times more likely to be hospitalized than a 95 year old with it. And so forth.
What about a 22 year old? Considering there's a 99.8% recovery rate (for those outside of the compromised), you still think that 17-1 ratio is correct?
Posted:
#4008
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: So if 35% of the deaths are the vaccinated how in the hell are the unvaccinated 17 times more likely to be hospitalized? Factoring in the 66% vaxed, it would equate to about 25% of deaths are the vaccinated or 1 in 4. To calculate probability, key is to adjust for difference in population in order to make direct comparisons. For example, unvaccinated adults are hospitalized at rate of 67.8 per 100,000 while fully vaccinated are hospitalized at rate of 3.9 per 100,000. So unvaccinated people are 17 times more likely to be hospitalized than the fully vaccinated. Vaccinated population is larger than unvaccinated population. But unvaccinated minority accounts for majority of hospitalizations especially in intensive care. According to Minnesota health department, unvaccinated people are 10 times more likely to be hospitalized.
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: So if 35% of the deaths are the vaccinated how in the hell are the unvaccinated 17 times more likely to be hospitalized? Factoring in the 66% vaxed, it would equate to about 25% of deaths are the vaccinated or 1 in 4. To calculate probability, key is to adjust for difference in population in order to make direct comparisons. For example, unvaccinated adults are hospitalized at rate of 67.8 per 100,000 while fully vaccinated are hospitalized at rate of 3.9 per 100,000. So unvaccinated people are 17 times more likely to be hospitalized than the fully vaccinated. Vaccinated population is larger than unvaccinated population. But unvaccinated minority accounts for majority of hospitalizations especially in intensive care. According to Minnesota health department, unvaccinated people are 10 times more likely to be hospitalized.
......and die at a 3-1 ratio adjusted to population of each group. Guess if you vaccinated, go to the hospital for covid you have a good chance of dying.
Never had said the vaccines don't help, I do question the numbers they throw out there.
Posted:
#4009
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:
What about a 22 year old? Considering there's a 99.8% recovery rate (for those outside of the compromised), you still think that 17-1 ratio is correct?
What about a 22 year old? Considering there's a 99.8% recovery rate (for those outside of the compromised), you still think that 17-1 ratio is correct?
Even adjusted for age, hospitalization rates confirm vaccines benefits. Center for disease control data reveals unvaccinated people 18 to 49 years old are 12 times more likely to be hospitalized compared to fully vaccinated in same age group. 9 times more likely for 12 to 17 years old. 17 times more likely for 50 years or older, but 49 times more likely when compared to fully boosted seniors. New York health department found unvaccinated people are 14 times more likely to be hospitalized during omicron surge. Apparently, covid is still the pandemic of the unvaccinated.
Posted:
#4010
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: What about a 22 year old? Considering there's a 99.8% recovery rate (for those outside of the compromised), you still think that 17-1 ratio is correct? Even adjusted for age, hospitalization rates confirm vaccines benefits. Center for disease control data reveals unvaccinated people 18 to 49 years old are 12 times more likely to be hospitalized compared to fully vaccinated in same age group. 9 times more likely for 12 to 17 years old. 17 times more likely for 50 years or older, but 49 times more likely when compared to fully boosted seniors. New York health department found unvaccinated people are 14 times more likely to be hospitalized during omicron surge. Apparently, covid is still the pandemic of the unvaccinated.
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: What about a 22 year old? Considering there's a 99.8% recovery rate (for those outside of the compromised), you still think that 17-1 ratio is correct? Even adjusted for age, hospitalization rates confirm vaccines benefits. Center for disease control data reveals unvaccinated people 18 to 49 years old are 12 times more likely to be hospitalized compared to fully vaccinated in same age group. 9 times more likely for 12 to 17 years old. 17 times more likely for 50 years or older, but 49 times more likely when compared to fully boosted seniors. New York health department found unvaccinated people are 14 times more likely to be hospitalized during omicron surge. Apparently, covid is still the pandemic of the unvaccinated.
Pandemic of unvaxxed 
Israel and Australia might have something to say about this....but the world outside of America doesn't count right 3rd ???
Time is a flat circle....
Posted:
#4012
John Hopkin researchers found that COVID lockdowns in the spring of 2020 may have reduced COVID deaths by .2%.
"The researchers – Johns Hopkins University economics professor Steve Hanke, Lund University economics professor Lars Jonung, and special advisor at Copenhagen's Center for Political Studies Jonas Herby – analyzed the effects of lockdown measures such as school shutdowns, business closures, and mask mandates on COVID-19 deaths.
We find little to no evidence that mandated lockdowns in Europe and the United States had a noticeable effect on COVID-19 mortality rates," the researchers wrote.
The researchers concluded that limiting gatherings may have actually increased COVID-19 mortality. "
Will never forget Michigan's Governor: "You can go out in a boat as long as the boat has no motor." "You can go to the big box stores but the flooring sales area must be roped off."
" Absolutely no garden centers can be open." "Big box stores must rope off, caution tape, any entrance to their garden centers" 
As the years go by more of these studies will use the same data I see and show how ignorant our leaders are!
Posted:
#4014
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Even adjusted for age, hospitalization rates confirm vaccines benefits. Center for disease control data reveals unvaccinated people 18 to 49 years old are 12 times more likely to be hospitalized compared to fully vaccinated in same age group. 9 times more likely for 12 to 17 years old. 17 times more likely for 50 years or older, but 49 times more likely when compared to fully boosted seniors. New York health department found unvaccinated people are 14 times more likely to be hospitalized during omicron surge.
Apparently, covid is still the pandemic of the unvaccinated.
Thanks, thirdperson. It is indeed a pandemic of the UNvaccinated (severe illness-at-home/hospitalizations/deaths)
Posted:
#4015
Denmark drops all covid restrictions today. Death rate 7-day average the US equivalent of 1150 deaths a day today and still rising. Higher than it was at start of pandemic when they locked down, closed all "non-esential" businesses.
Have we grown accustomed to it? Or maybe the restrictions don't work. 
Posted:
#4017
Quote Originally Posted by sundance:
From trump-lover Dr "death" Mercola. Using an underreporting factor of 6.5. This is the CDC recommended number. Between 64,600 and 407,400 Americans have been killed by the very safe and very effective so called 'vaccine!' Has anybody had enough of this insanity?
From trump-lover Dr "death" Mercola. Using an underreporting factor of 6.5. This is the CDC recommended number. Between 64,600 and 407,400 Americans have been killed by the very safe and very effective so called 'vaccine!' Has anybody had enough of this insanity?
"I recommend: take the vaccines!
I did it. It's good! Take the vaccines!"
- donald j. trump, august 21
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
Posted:
#4018
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: From trump-lover Dr "death" Mercola. Using an underreporting factor of 6.5. This is the CDC recommended number. Between 64,600 and 407,400 Americans have been killed by the very safe and very effective so called 'vaccine!' Has anybody had enough of this insanity? "I recommend: take the vaccines! I did it. It's good! Take the vaccines!" - donald j. trump, august 21
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: From trump-lover Dr "death" Mercola. Using an underreporting factor of 6.5. This is the CDC recommended number. Between 64,600 and 407,400 Americans have been killed by the very safe and very effective so called 'vaccine!' Has anybody had enough of this insanity? "I recommend: take the vaccines! I did it. It's good! Take the vaccines!" - donald j. trump, august 21
Again. Please enjoy your 3rd booster! The events of today regarding covid and the 'vaccine' have nothing to do with our legitimate President. That would be President Donald John Trump!
Posted:
#4019
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: From trump-lover Dr "death" Mercola. Using an underreporting factor of 6.5. This is the CDC recommended number. Between 64,600 and 407,400 Americans have been killed by the very safe and very effective so called 'vaccine!' Has anybody had enough of this insanity? "I recommend: take the vaccines! I did it. It's good! Take the vaccines!" - donald j. trump, august 21
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: From trump-lover Dr "death" Mercola. Using an underreporting factor of 6.5. This is the CDC recommended number. Between 64,600 and 407,400 Americans have been killed by the very safe and very effective so called 'vaccine!' Has anybody had enough of this insanity? "I recommend: take the vaccines! I did it. It's good! Take the vaccines!" - donald j. trump, august 21
"When we came up with these INCREDIBLE VACCINES —
three of them — and therapeutics, we did a tremendous job,
and we should NEVER disparage them," Trump continued
"We should be really happy about it because we’ve
all saved millions and millions of lives all over the world."
- donald trump, on FOX News
Posted:
#4021
Mercola is Professor of Cardiovascular Medicine and a member of the Stanford Cardiovascular Institute. He trained at the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute in Boston and Harvard Medical School. He was on the faculty at Harvard Medical School and then at the Sanford-Burnham-Prebys Medical Discovery Institute and the Department of Bioengineering at the University of California, San Diego prior to relocating to Stanford in 2015. His laboratory is funded by research grants from the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the California Institute for Regenerative Medicine and the Fondation Leducq.
Fubah, why are you calling him Dr Death?
Posted:
#4022
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
"When we came up with these INCREDIBLE VACCINES —
three of them — and therapeutics, we did a tremendous job,
and we should NEVER disparage them," Trump continued
"We should be really happy about it because we’ve
all saved millions and millions of lives all over the world."
- donald trump, on FOX News
one of the incredibly few things chump actually got right 
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
Posted:
#4023
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Denmark drops all covid restrictions today.
Denmark drops all covid restrictions today.
Denmark and other nations are returning to normal earlier because of higher booster vaccination rates for majority of population. However US trails behind with 27% of population boosted and that is the key difference holding US back. With too many Americans still under vaccinated, US cannot afford to risk lifting all covid restrictions. Since December 1, US covid death rate is almost 60% higher than other rich countries according to New York times analysis. In Center for disease control study, boosters restore 90% immunity in people 23 times less likely to be hospitalized. Public health experts consider vaccination the only way out of the pandemic.
Posted:
#4025
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
John Hopkin researchers found that COVID lockdowns in the spring of 2020 may have reduced COVID deaths by .2%. "The researchers – Johns Hopkins University economics professor Steve Hanke, Lund University economics professor Lars Jonung, and special advisor at Copenhagen's Center for Political Studies Jonas Herby – analyzed the effects of lockdown measures such as school shutdowns, business closures, and mask mandates on COVID-19 deaths. We find little to no evidence that mandated lockdowns in Europe and the United States had a noticeable effect on COVID-19 mortality rates," the researchers wrote. The researchers concluded that limiting gatherings may have actually increased COVID-19 mortality. "
John Hopkin researchers found that COVID lockdowns in the spring of 2020 may have reduced COVID deaths by .2%. "The researchers – Johns Hopkins University economics professor Steve Hanke, Lund University economics professor Lars Jonung, and special advisor at Copenhagen's Center for Political Studies Jonas Herby – analyzed the effects of lockdown measures such as school shutdowns, business closures, and mask mandates on COVID-19 deaths. We find little to no evidence that mandated lockdowns in Europe and the United States had a noticeable effect on COVID-19 mortality rates," the researchers wrote. The researchers concluded that limiting gatherings may have actually increased COVID-19 mortality. "
John Hopkin's incredible research study!
NOT EVEN MENTIONED BY CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, THE NEW YORK TIMES, WASHINGTON POST, RUETERS, USA TODAY, AXIOS, AND POLITICO.
NOTHING!!! WHY? These are the folks who spent much of the pandemic shaming red states with minimal restrictions and events deemed by critics as "superspreaders."
A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality-1.pdf
ALL IN COLLUSION IT APPEARS.
At the beginning of this thread those who dared not to lockdown ridiculed in red ink! Because you listen to those above, and only those.
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