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    kcblitzkrieg
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2021 - 6:50 PM ET #3476

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The New York Times First Known COVID Case Was Vendor at Wuhan Market, Scientist Claims The new analysis suggests that the first known patient sickened with the coronavirus was a vendor in a large Wuhan animal market. The report, published Thursday in the prestigious journal Science, will revive the debate over whether the pandemic started with a spillover from wildlife sold at the market, a leak from a Wuhan virology lab. The scientist, Michael Worobey, a leading expert in tracing the evolution of viruses at the University of Arizona, came upon timeline discrepancies by combing through what had already been made public in medical journals, as well as video interviews in a Chinese news outlet with people believed to have the first two documented infections. Worobey argues that the vendor’s ties to the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, as well as a new analysis of the earliest hospitalized patients’ connections to the market, strongly suggest that the pandemic began there.

    an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

    Let me guess, the Moon landing was also staged!!!  

    Please don't tell me you are a "flat earther" as well an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The New York Times First Known COVID Case Was Vendor at Wuhan Market, Scientist Claims The new analysis suggests that the first known patient sickened with the coronavirus was a vendor in a large Wuhan animal market. The report, published Thursday in the prestigious journal Science, will revive the debate over whether the pandemic started with a spillover from wildlife sold at the market, a leak from a Wuhan virology lab. The scientist, Michael Worobey, a leading expert in tracing the evolution of viruses at the University of Arizona, came upon timeline discrepancies by combing through what had already been made public in medical journals, as well as video interviews in a Chinese news outlet with people believed to have the first two documented infections. Worobey argues that the vendor’s ties to the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, as well as a new analysis of the earliest hospitalized patients’ connections to the market, strongly suggest that the pandemic began there.

    an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

    Let me guess, the Moon landing was also staged!!!  

    Please don't tell me you are a "flat earther" as well an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     
    baish2012
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2021 - 7:06 PM ET #3477

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The New York Times

    First Known COVID Case
    Was Vendor at Wuhan Market,
    Scientist Claims

    The new analysis suggests that the first known patient sickened with the
    coronavirus was a vendor in a large Wuhan animal market.

    The report, published Thursday in the prestigious journal Science, will revive
    the debate over whether the pandemic started with a spillover from wildlife
    sold at the market, a leak from a Wuhan virology lab.

    The scientist, Michael Worobey, a leading expert in tracing the evolution of
    viruses at the University of Arizona, came upon timeline discrepancies by
    combing through what had already been made public in medical journals,
    as well as video interviews in a Chinese news outlet with people believed
    to have the first two documented infections.

    Worobey argues that the vendor’s ties to the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market,
    as well as a new analysis of the earliest hospitalized patients’ connections to the
    market, strongly suggest that the pandemic began there.

     

    Very interesting article, but it really is inconclusive.

    There is no conclusive proof either way where this began except obviously somewhere in China.

    But historically these type of viruses do originate from animal sources.

     

     

     

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    The New York Times

    First Known COVID Case
    Was Vendor at Wuhan Market,
    Scientist Claims

    The new analysis suggests that the first known patient sickened with the
    coronavirus was a vendor in a large Wuhan animal market.

    The report, published Thursday in the prestigious journal Science, will revive
    the debate over whether the pandemic started with a spillover from wildlife
    sold at the market, a leak from a Wuhan virology lab.

    The scientist, Michael Worobey, a leading expert in tracing the evolution of
    viruses at the University of Arizona, came upon timeline discrepancies by
    combing through what had already been made public in medical journals,
    as well as video interviews in a Chinese news outlet with people believed
    to have the first two documented infections.

    Worobey argues that the vendor’s ties to the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market,
    as well as a new analysis of the earliest hospitalized patients’ connections to the
    market, strongly suggest that the pandemic began there.

     

    Very interesting article, but it really is inconclusive.

    There is no conclusive proof either way where this began except obviously somewhere in China.

    But historically these type of viruses do originate from animal sources.

     

     

     

     

     
    kcblitzkrieg
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2021 - 11:00 PM ET #3478

    The almighty Dollar prevails….


    BREAKING REPORT: Disney and other Florida-based businesses are “PAUSING THEIR COVID-19 VACCINE MANDATES and rehiring employees that were fired for refusing to “take the jab.”...

    Time is a flat circle....
    Reply

    The almighty Dollar prevails….


    BREAKING REPORT: Disney and other Florida-based businesses are “PAUSING THEIR COVID-19 VACCINE MANDATES and rehiring employees that were fired for refusing to “take the jab.”...

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2021 - 11:05 PM ET #3479

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Why does Massachusetts have 3,000 new cases  for 11.17.21 and Florida has 1,500? Since beginning of pandemic, Massachusetts has lower total case rate than Florida.  According to wikipedia, Massachusetts has the 40th highest case rate per capita while Florida has 14th worst rate.  Earlier, Miami Herald condemns governor DeSantis for allowing Florida to become a covid epicenter in the world.  8th worst covid death rate out of 50 states.  If US has Florida covid death rate, an additional 171,000 Americans wouldn't be alive on Thanksgiving day.

    alarming

    but its now a republican state       so there ya go

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Why does Massachusetts have 3,000 new cases  for 11.17.21 and Florida has 1,500? Since beginning of pandemic, Massachusetts has lower total case rate than Florida.  According to wikipedia, Massachusetts has the 40th highest case rate per capita while Florida has 14th worst rate.  Earlier, Miami Herald condemns governor DeSantis for allowing Florida to become a covid epicenter in the world.  8th worst covid death rate out of 50 states.  If US has Florida covid death rate, an additional 171,000 Americans wouldn't be alive on Thanksgiving day.

    alarming

    but its now a republican state       so there ya go

     
    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2021 - 11:05 PM ET #3480

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Why does Massachusetts have 3,000 new cases  for 11.17.21 and Florida has 1,500? Since beginning of pandemic, Massachusetts has lower total case rate than Florida.  According to wikipedia, Massachusetts has the 40th highest case rate per capita while Florida has 14th worst rate.  Earlier, Miami Herald condemns governor DeSantis for allowing Florida to become a covid epicenter in the world.  8th worst covid death rate out of 50 states.  If US has Florida covid death rate, an additional 171,000 Americans wouldn't be alive on Thanksgiving day.

    alarming

    but its now a republican state       so there ya go

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Why does Massachusetts have 3,000 new cases  for 11.17.21 and Florida has 1,500? Since beginning of pandemic, Massachusetts has lower total case rate than Florida.  According to wikipedia, Massachusetts has the 40th highest case rate per capita while Florida has 14th worst rate.  Earlier, Miami Herald condemns governor DeSantis for allowing Florida to become a covid epicenter in the world.  8th worst covid death rate out of 50 states.  If US has Florida covid death rate, an additional 171,000 Americans wouldn't be alive on Thanksgiving day.

    alarming

    but its now a republican state       so there ya go

     
    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2021 - 11:05 PM ET #3481

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Why does Massachusetts have 3,000 new cases  for 11.17.21 and Florida has 1,500? Since beginning of pandemic, Massachusetts has lower total case rate than Florida.  According to wikipedia, Massachusetts has the 40th highest case rate per capita while Florida has 14th worst rate.  Earlier, Miami Herald condemns governor DeSantis for allowing Florida to become a covid epicenter in the world.  8th worst covid death rate out of 50 states.  If US has Florida covid death rate, an additional 171,000 Americans wouldn't be alive on Thanksgiving day.

    alarming

    but its now a republican state       so there ya go

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Why does Massachusetts have 3,000 new cases  for 11.17.21 and Florida has 1,500? Since beginning of pandemic, Massachusetts has lower total case rate than Florida.  According to wikipedia, Massachusetts has the 40th highest case rate per capita while Florida has 14th worst rate.  Earlier, Miami Herald condemns governor DeSantis for allowing Florida to become a covid epicenter in the world.  8th worst covid death rate out of 50 states.  If US has Florida covid death rate, an additional 171,000 Americans wouldn't be alive on Thanksgiving day.

    alarming

    but its now a republican state       so there ya go

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2021 - 11:12 PM ET #3482

    US Army bars vaccine refusers
    from promotions and reenlistment
    as deadline approaches

    (CNN)

    With less than one month until the Army's deadline
    to vaccinate its active-duty force, the service will begin barring
    soldiers who refuse to be vaccinated against Covid-19 without
    an exemption from reenlistment, promotions, and
    other "favorable personnel actions."

    The Navy and the Marine Corps issued similar guidance last month,
    paving the way for the discharge of service members who refuse
    to be vaccinated.

    Reply

    US Army bars vaccine refusers
    from promotions and reenlistment
    as deadline approaches

    (CNN)

    With less than one month until the Army's deadline
    to vaccinate its active-duty force, the service will begin barring
    soldiers who refuse to be vaccinated against Covid-19 without
    an exemption from reenlistment, promotions, and
    other "favorable personnel actions."

    The Navy and the Marine Corps issued similar guidance last month,
    paving the way for the discharge of service members who refuse
    to be vaccinated.

     
    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2021 - 11:18 PM ET #3483

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    US Army bars vaccine refusers from promotions and reenlistment as deadline approaches (CNN) With less than one month until the Army's deadline to vaccinate its active-duty force, the service will begin barring soldiers who refuse to be vaccinated against Covid-19 without an exemption from reenlistment, promotions, and other "favorable personnel actions." The Navy and the Marine Corps issued similar guidance last month, paving the way for the discharge of service members who refuse to be vaccinated.

    bad enuf the dumbass covid deniers r dying from covid     but im glad our military r vaccinated

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    US Army bars vaccine refusers from promotions and reenlistment as deadline approaches (CNN) With less than one month until the Army's deadline to vaccinate its active-duty force, the service will begin barring soldiers who refuse to be vaccinated against Covid-19 without an exemption from reenlistment, promotions, and other "favorable personnel actions." The Navy and the Marine Corps issued similar guidance last month, paving the way for the discharge of service members who refuse to be vaccinated.

    bad enuf the dumbass covid deniers r dying from covid     but im glad our military r vaccinated

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2021 - 11:23 PM ET #3484

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    US Army bars vaccine refusers from promotions and reenlistment as deadline approaches (CNN) With less than one month until the Army's deadline to vaccinate its active-duty force, the service will begin barring soldiers who refuse to be vaccinated against Covid-19 without an exemption from reenlistment, promotions, and other "favorable personnel actions." The Navy and the Marine Corps issued similar guidance last month, paving the way for the discharge of service members who refuse to be vaccinated.

    Though the Air Force hasn't issued specific guidance about reenlistments or promotions, Secretary Frank Kendall made it clear Thursday that airmen who refuse the vaccine will be discharged.
     
    "The bottom line is that willfully disobeying a lawful order is incompatible with military service and to get a vaccination is a lawful order," Kendall said.
     
     
    Last month, the Navy made it clear that it will pursue discharge for any sailors who refuse vaccination without a pending or approved exemption.
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    US Army bars vaccine refusers from promotions and reenlistment as deadline approaches (CNN) With less than one month until the Army's deadline to vaccinate its active-duty force, the service will begin barring soldiers who refuse to be vaccinated against Covid-19 without an exemption from reenlistment, promotions, and other "favorable personnel actions." The Navy and the Marine Corps issued similar guidance last month, paving the way for the discharge of service members who refuse to be vaccinated.

    Though the Air Force hasn't issued specific guidance about reenlistments or promotions, Secretary Frank Kendall made it clear Thursday that airmen who refuse the vaccine will be discharged.
     
    "The bottom line is that willfully disobeying a lawful order is incompatible with military service and to get a vaccination is a lawful order," Kendall said.
     
     
    Last month, the Navy made it clear that it will pursue discharge for any sailors who refuse vaccination without a pending or approved exemption.
     
    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2021 - 11:32 PM ET #3485

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    US Army bars vaccine refusers from promotions and reenlistment as deadline approaches (CNN) With less than one month until the Army's deadline to vaccinate its active-duty force, the service will begin barring soldiers who refuse to be vaccinated against Covid-19 without an exemption from reenlistment, promotions, and other "favorable personnel actions." The Navy and the Marine Corps issued similar guidance last month, paving the way for the discharge of service members who refuse to be vaccinated.

     

    Though the Air Force hasn't issued specific guidance about reenlistments or promotions, Secretary Frank Kendall made it clear Thursday that airmen who refuse the vaccine will be discharged.
     
    "The bottom line is that willfully disobeying a lawful order is incompatible with military service and to get a vaccination is a lawful order," Kendall said.
     
     
    Last month, the Navy made it clear that it will pursue discharge for any sailors who refuse vaccination without a pending or approved exemption.
     

    its unfortunate for those who r willing to give up their career over one more jab among the many other jabs they already r mandated to get which they dont have a problem with.    but their body their choice .  we will find others willing to replace them in short order

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    US Army bars vaccine refusers from promotions and reenlistment as deadline approaches (CNN) With less than one month until the Army's deadline to vaccinate its active-duty force, the service will begin barring soldiers who refuse to be vaccinated against Covid-19 without an exemption from reenlistment, promotions, and other "favorable personnel actions." The Navy and the Marine Corps issued similar guidance last month, paving the way for the discharge of service members who refuse to be vaccinated.

     

    Though the Air Force hasn't issued specific guidance about reenlistments or promotions, Secretary Frank Kendall made it clear Thursday that airmen who refuse the vaccine will be discharged.
     
    "The bottom line is that willfully disobeying a lawful order is incompatible with military service and to get a vaccination is a lawful order," Kendall said.
     
     
    Last month, the Navy made it clear that it will pursue discharge for any sailors who refuse vaccination without a pending or approved exemption.
     

    its unfortunate for those who r willing to give up their career over one more jab among the many other jabs they already r mandated to get which they dont have a problem with.    but their body their choice .  we will find others willing to replace them in short order

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: US Army bars vaccine refusers from promotions and reenlistment as deadline approaches (CNN) With less than one month until the Army's deadline to vaccinate its active-duty force, the service will begin barring soldiers who refuse to be vaccinated against Covid-19 without an exemption from reenlistment, promotions, and other "favorable personnel actions." The Navy and the Marine Corps issued similar guidance last month, paving the way for the discharge of service members who refuse to be vaccinated.   Though the Air Force hasn't issued specific guidance about reenlistments or promotions, Secretary Frank Kendall made it clear Thursday that airmen who refuse the vaccine will be discharged.   "The bottom line is that willfully disobeying a lawful order is incompatible with military service and to get a vaccination is a lawful order," Kendall said.     Last month, the Navy made it clear that it will pursue discharge for any sailors who refuse vaccination without a pending or approved exemption.   its unfortunate for those who r willing to give up their career over one more jab among the many other jabs they already r mandated to get which they dont have a problem with.    but their body their choice .  we will find others willing to replace them in short order

    Yes, military services are working as one team, servicemen/women are subject to protect himself/herself as to the other comrades. Unvaccinated service crews will very likely induce unnecessary hazard to the others. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: US Army bars vaccine refusers from promotions and reenlistment as deadline approaches (CNN) With less than one month until the Army's deadline to vaccinate its active-duty force, the service will begin barring soldiers who refuse to be vaccinated against Covid-19 without an exemption from reenlistment, promotions, and other "favorable personnel actions." The Navy and the Marine Corps issued similar guidance last month, paving the way for the discharge of service members who refuse to be vaccinated.   Though the Air Force hasn't issued specific guidance about reenlistments or promotions, Secretary Frank Kendall made it clear Thursday that airmen who refuse the vaccine will be discharged.   "The bottom line is that willfully disobeying a lawful order is incompatible with military service and to get a vaccination is a lawful order," Kendall said.     Last month, the Navy made it clear that it will pursue discharge for any sailors who refuse vaccination without a pending or approved exemption.   its unfortunate for those who r willing to give up their career over one more jab among the many other jabs they already r mandated to get which they dont have a problem with.    but their body their choice .  we will find others willing to replace them in short order

    Yes, military services are working as one team, servicemen/women are subject to protect himself/herself as to the other comrades. Unvaccinated service crews will very likely induce unnecessary hazard to the others. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2021 - 7:44 PM ET #3487

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Despite unprecedented vaccine mandates and oppressive lockdowns in Democrat states, more Americans have died from COVID-19 this year (Biden) than in all of 2020 (Trump), according to Johns Hopkins University.
     

    According to National institute of health, vast majority of covi d deaths occur among unvaccinated population.  At least 100,000 deaths are preventable by vaccination. Tragically, US vaccine hesitancy is among the worst in the world. Without vaccines and public health restrictions, potentially millions of US deaths in pandemic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Despite unprecedented vaccine mandates and oppressive lockdowns in Democrat states, more Americans have died from COVID-19 this year (Biden) than in all of 2020 (Trump), according to Johns Hopkins University.
     

    According to National institute of health, vast majority of covi d deaths occur among unvaccinated population.  At least 100,000 deaths are preventable by vaccination. Tragically, US vaccine hesitancy is among the worst in the world. Without vaccines and public health restrictions, potentially millions of US deaths in pandemic.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2021 - 5:30 PM ET #3488

    In Nevada right now. Went to a casino.

    Says on the door...........MASK UP!!!! 

    Of course if you want to smoke then drop the mask and suck and blow all you want. Second hand smoke with possibly COVID for all.

    INSANE!!!

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    In Nevada right now. Went to a casino.

    Says on the door...........MASK UP!!!! 

    Of course if you want to smoke then drop the mask and suck and blow all you want. Second hand smoke with possibly COVID for all.

    INSANE!!!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2021 - 12:56 PM ET #3489

    39% of people hospitalized with COVID-19 in Massachusetts are 'Fully Vaccinated'

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    39% of people hospitalized with COVID-19 in Massachusetts are 'Fully Vaccinated'

    an_speechless

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2021 - 1:04 PM ET #3490

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Despite unprecedented vaccine mandates and oppressive lockdowns in Democrat states, more Americans have died from COVID-19 this year (Biden) than in all of 2020 (Trump), according to Johns Hopkins University. 

    According to National institute of health, vast majority of covid deaths occur among unvaccinated population.  At least 100,000 deaths are preventable by vaccination. Tragically, US vaccine hesitancy is among the worst in the world. Without vaccines and public health restrictions, potentially millions of US deaths in pandemic.

    yep    unvaccinated r the worst problem right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Despite unprecedented vaccine mandates and oppressive lockdowns in Democrat states, more Americans have died from COVID-19 this year (Biden) than in all of 2020 (Trump), according to Johns Hopkins University. 

    According to National institute of health, vast majority of covid deaths occur among unvaccinated population.  At least 100,000 deaths are preventable by vaccination. Tragically, US vaccine hesitancy is among the worst in the world. Without vaccines and public health restrictions, potentially millions of US deaths in pandemic.

    yep    unvaccinated r the worst problem right now

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2021 - 1:04 PM ET #3491

    "get the vaccine and you're good, you won't get covid"   Oooops

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    "get the vaccine and you're good, you won't get covid"   Oooops

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2021 - 1:06 PM ET #3492

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Despite unprecedented vaccine mandates and oppressive lockdowns in Democrat states, more Americans have died from COVID-19 this year (Biden) than in all of 2020 (Trump), according to Johns Hopkins University.  According to National institute of health, vast majority of covid deaths occur among unvaccinated population.  At least 100,000 deaths are preventable by vaccination. Tragically, US vaccine hesitancy is among the worst in the world. Without vaccines and public health restrictions, potentially millions of US deaths in pandemic. yep    unvaccinated r the worst problem right now

     

    I think hospitalizations have more to do with underlying conditions, obesity, elderly than having or not having the vaccine. Clearly people with the vax are still ending up on the hospital. Maybe the gov't and media needs to warn us about what category of people are ending up on the hospitals. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Despite unprecedented vaccine mandates and oppressive lockdowns in Democrat states, more Americans have died from COVID-19 this year (Biden) than in all of 2020 (Trump), according to Johns Hopkins University.  According to National institute of health, vast majority of covid deaths occur among unvaccinated population.  At least 100,000 deaths are preventable by vaccination. Tragically, US vaccine hesitancy is among the worst in the world. Without vaccines and public health restrictions, potentially millions of US deaths in pandemic. yep    unvaccinated r the worst problem right now

     

    I think hospitalizations have more to do with underlying conditions, obesity, elderly than having or not having the vaccine. Clearly people with the vax are still ending up on the hospital. Maybe the gov't and media needs to warn us about what category of people are ending up on the hospitals. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2021 - 1:16 PM ET #3493

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to National institute of health, vast majority of covi d deaths occur among unvaccinated population.  At least 100,000 deaths are preventable by vaccination. Tragically, US vaccine hesitancy is among the worst in the world.

    this attitude of vaccine hesitancy clearly coddled in 2020 and enabled by failed trump admin and moronic allies which carries over to this very day

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to National institute of health, vast majority of covi d deaths occur among unvaccinated population.  At least 100,000 deaths are preventable by vaccination. Tragically, US vaccine hesitancy is among the worst in the world.

    this attitude of vaccine hesitancy clearly coddled in 2020 and enabled by failed trump admin and moronic allies which carries over to this very day

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2021 - 1:16 PM ET #3494

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to National institute of health, vast majority of covi d deaths occur among unvaccinated population.  At least 100,000 deaths are preventable by vaccination. Tragically, US vaccine hesitancy is among the worst in the world.

    this attitude of vaccine hesitancy clearly coddled in 2020 and enabled by failed trump admin and moronic allies which carries over to this very day

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to National institute of health, vast majority of covi d deaths occur among unvaccinated population.  At least 100,000 deaths are preventable by vaccination. Tragically, US vaccine hesitancy is among the worst in the world.

    this attitude of vaccine hesitancy clearly coddled in 2020 and enabled by failed trump admin and moronic allies which carries over to this very day

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2021 - 1:20 PM ET #3495

    @KellyM_1964

     Please explain why people with vaccine are in the hospital? If the vaccine was supposed to save everyone, why are boosters needed, why are people still ending up in the hospital? Maybe the vaccine isn't as effective as it was originally thought to be and maybe the virus is effecting a certain group of people more than others, with or without the vax.

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    @KellyM_1964

     Please explain why people with vaccine are in the hospital? If the vaccine was supposed to save everyone, why are boosters needed, why are people still ending up in the hospital? Maybe the vaccine isn't as effective as it was originally thought to be and maybe the virus is effecting a certain group of people more than others, with or without the vax.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2021 - 1:23 PM ET #3496

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Yes, military services are working as one team, servicemen/women are subject to protect himself/herself as to the other comrades. Unvaccinated service crews will very likely induce unnecessary hazard to the others.

    good point   europa ! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Yes, military services are working as one team, servicemen/women are subject to protect himself/herself as to the other comrades. Unvaccinated service crews will very likely induce unnecessary hazard to the others.

    good point   europa ! 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2021 - 1:23 PM ET #3497

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Yes, military services are working as one team, servicemen/women are subject to protect himself/herself as to the other comrades. Unvaccinated service crews will very likely induce unnecessary hazard to the others.

    good point   europa ! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Yes, military services are working as one team, servicemen/women are subject to protect himself/herself as to the other comrades. Unvaccinated service crews will very likely induce unnecessary hazard to the others.

    good point   europa ! 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2021 - 1:26 PM ET #3498

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Yes, military services are working as one team, servicemen/women are subject to protect himself/herself as to the other comrades. Unvaccinated service crews will very likely induce unnecessary hazard to the others.

    Vaccinated are also contracting and spreading the virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Yes, military services are working as one team, servicemen/women are subject to protect himself/herself as to the other comrades. Unvaccinated service crews will very likely induce unnecessary hazard to the others.

    Vaccinated are also contracting and spreading the virus.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2021 - 1:27 PM ET #3499

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Though the Air Force hasn't issued specific guidance about reenlistments or promotions, Secretary Frank Kendall made it clear Thursday that airmen who refuse the vaccine will be discharged.
     
    "The bottom line is that willfully disobeying a lawful order is incompatible with military service and to get a vaccination is a lawful order," Kendall said.

    the law is the law

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Though the Air Force hasn't issued specific guidance about reenlistments or promotions, Secretary Frank Kendall made it clear Thursday that airmen who refuse the vaccine will be discharged.
     
    "The bottom line is that willfully disobeying a lawful order is incompatible with military service and to get a vaccination is a lawful order," Kendall said.

    the law is the law

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2021 - 1:27 PM ET #3500

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Though the Air Force hasn't issued specific guidance about reenlistments or promotions, Secretary Frank Kendall made it clear Thursday that airmen who refuse the vaccine will be discharged.
     
    "The bottom line is that willfully disobeying a lawful order is incompatible with military service and to get a vaccination is a lawful order," Kendall said.

    the law is the law

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Though the Air Force hasn't issued specific guidance about reenlistments or promotions, Secretary Frank Kendall made it clear Thursday that airmen who refuse the vaccine will be discharged.
     
    "The bottom line is that willfully disobeying a lawful order is incompatible with military service and to get a vaccination is a lawful order," Kendall said.

    the law is the law

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