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    Europa
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2021 - 2:37 AM ET #2526

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    About one-third of Americans have not received a Covid-19 shot. This as the mutated "DELTA" variant - which is more infectious and deadlier - becomes the dominant strain in the US after crushing India.

    Trump country continues to fall behind on COVID-19 vaccinations

    The gap in vaccination rates between counties that voted for Donald Trump and those that voted for President Biden in 2020 is only getting bigger with time, according to a new KFF analysis.*

    *https://www.axios.com/trump-biden-coronavirus-vaccines-politics-variants-8f7430cb-7b27-4879-8a98-3471cafc1e22.html

    Pandemic appears to be a grave health care concern regardless of political skew, however idiotic ideology took over many people to the world of hurt. Very unfortunately and unwarranted!  

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    About one-third of Americans have not received a Covid-19 shot. This as the mutated "DELTA" variant - which is more infectious and deadlier - becomes the dominant strain in the US after crushing India.

    Trump country continues to fall behind on COVID-19 vaccinations

    The gap in vaccination rates between counties that voted for Donald Trump and those that voted for President Biden in 2020 is only getting bigger with time, according to a new KFF analysis.*

    *https://www.axios.com/trump-biden-coronavirus-vaccines-politics-variants-8f7430cb-7b27-4879-8a98-3471cafc1e22.html

    Pandemic appears to be a grave health care concern regardless of political skew, however idiotic ideology took over many people to the world of hurt. Very unfortunately and unwarranted!  

     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2021 - 9:13 AM ET #2527

    The mainstream media has been silent on  the dangers of the vaccine. They claim it is a safe and necessary injection. They are wrong. The under reported numbers inside the United States are as follows. 

    9,048 dead as a result of the very safe vaccine.

    Astonishing Spike in Post-Vaccine Deaths Gets No Media Coverage as Over 2,000 Reported THIS WEEK Alone (basedunderground.com)

     

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    The mainstream media has been silent on  the dangers of the vaccine. They claim it is a safe and necessary injection. They are wrong. The under reported numbers inside the United States are as follows. 

    9,048 dead as a result of the very safe vaccine.

    Astonishing Spike in Post-Vaccine Deaths Gets No Media Coverage as Over 2,000 Reported THIS WEEK Alone (basedunderground.com)

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2021 - 10:28 AM ET #2528

    Basically what is happening now is the vaccine is more dangerous to your health than the virus.

    0n09nmUq.jpeg (1237×963) (patriots.win)

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    Basically what is happening now is the vaccine is more dangerous to your health than the virus.

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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2021 - 1:53 PM ET #2529

    Logically one cannot draw a conclusion that everything or anything sundance has done has kept him safe from dying of covid.  The odds are in his favor.  For all we know LUCK played a big part.   Some are  lucky; some aren't.

    See and there it is right in your face,  those that are asymptomatic when exposed to covid. Have as good if not better antibodies as those who grafted their DNA with mrna therapy to be as the same... asymptomatic to the variations. 

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    Logically one cannot draw a conclusion that everything or anything sundance has done has kept him safe from dying of covid.  The odds are in his favor.  For all we know LUCK played a big part.   Some are  lucky; some aren't.

    See and there it is right in your face,  those that are asymptomatic when exposed to covid. Have as good if not better antibodies as those who grafted their DNA with mrna therapy to be as the same... asymptomatic to the variations. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2021 - 1:54 PM ET #2530

    It not that we can defeat covid... that shit rating virus can go back and do wha t it does reduce shit to compost we can learn to live with it or perish from it.

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    It not that we can defeat covid... that shit rating virus can go back and do wha t it does reduce shit to compost we can learn to live with it or perish from it.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2021 - 4:34 PM ET #2531

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The mainstream media has been silent on  the dangers of the vaccine. They claim it is a safe and necessary injection. They are wrong. The under reported numbers inside the United States are as follows.  9,048 dead as a result of the very safe vaccine. Astonishing Spike in Post-Vaccine Deaths Gets No Media Coverage as Over 2,000 Reported THIS WEEK Alone (basedunderground.com)

    Anti-vaxers misuse VAERS database to spread fear and disinformation.  Number of deaths are inflated by wrongly counting adverse events as deaths.  Since older population is vaccinated early, statistically inevitable that some seniors die from natural causes unrelated to vaccination.

    As of June 2021, over 300 million covid vaccines have been administered in the US.  VAERS reports over 5200 unverified deaths from all types of vaccines.  After investigations, doctors found only 3 deaths that might be linked to vaccination because of blood clots.  No evidence vaccines contribute to other deaths. 

    In comparison, getting covid infection while unvaccinated is risky.  Over 600,000 covid deaths and millions of hospitalizations in the US.  Fact is vaccination can reduce covid deaths and hospitalizations by 66% to 99%.  Now 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur among unvaccinated population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The mainstream media has been silent on  the dangers of the vaccine. They claim it is a safe and necessary injection. They are wrong. The under reported numbers inside the United States are as follows.  9,048 dead as a result of the very safe vaccine. Astonishing Spike in Post-Vaccine Deaths Gets No Media Coverage as Over 2,000 Reported THIS WEEK Alone (basedunderground.com)

    Anti-vaxers misuse VAERS database to spread fear and disinformation.  Number of deaths are inflated by wrongly counting adverse events as deaths.  Since older population is vaccinated early, statistically inevitable that some seniors die from natural causes unrelated to vaccination.

    As of June 2021, over 300 million covid vaccines have been administered in the US.  VAERS reports over 5200 unverified deaths from all types of vaccines.  After investigations, doctors found only 3 deaths that might be linked to vaccination because of blood clots.  No evidence vaccines contribute to other deaths. 

    In comparison, getting covid infection while unvaccinated is risky.  Over 600,000 covid deaths and millions of hospitalizations in the US.  Fact is vaccination can reduce covid deaths and hospitalizations by 66% to 99%.  Now 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur among unvaccinated population.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2021 - 6:52 PM ET #2532

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The mainstream media has been silent on  the dangers of the vaccine. They claim it is a safe and necessary injection. They are wrong. The under reported numbers inside the United States are as follows.  9,048 dead as a result of the very safe vaccine. Astonishing Spike in Post-Vaccine Deaths Gets No Media Coverage as Over 2,000 Reported THIS WEEK Alone (basedunderground.com) Anti-vaxers misuse VAERS database to spread fear and disinformation.  Number of deaths are inflated by wrongly counting adverse events as deaths.  Since older population is vaccinated early, statistically inevitable that some seniors die from natural causes unrelated to vaccination. As of June 2021, over 300 million covid vaccines have been administered in the US.  VAERS reports over 5200 unverified deaths from all types of vaccines.  After investigations, doctors found only 3 deaths that might be linked to vaccination because of blood clots.  No evidence vaccines contribute to other deaths.  In comparison, getting covid infection while unvaccinated is risky.  Over 600,000 covid deaths and millions of hospitalizations in the US.  Fact is vaccination can reduce covid deaths and hospitalizations by 66% to 99%.  Now 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur among unvaccinated population.

     

    wow.   i 100% agree with u.  very good post ! thumbs_up

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The mainstream media has been silent on  the dangers of the vaccine. They claim it is a safe and necessary injection. They are wrong. The under reported numbers inside the United States are as follows.  9,048 dead as a result of the very safe vaccine. Astonishing Spike in Post-Vaccine Deaths Gets No Media Coverage as Over 2,000 Reported THIS WEEK Alone (basedunderground.com) Anti-vaxers misuse VAERS database to spread fear and disinformation.  Number of deaths are inflated by wrongly counting adverse events as deaths.  Since older population is vaccinated early, statistically inevitable that some seniors die from natural causes unrelated to vaccination. As of June 2021, over 300 million covid vaccines have been administered in the US.  VAERS reports over 5200 unverified deaths from all types of vaccines.  After investigations, doctors found only 3 deaths that might be linked to vaccination because of blood clots.  No evidence vaccines contribute to other deaths.  In comparison, getting covid infection while unvaccinated is risky.  Over 600,000 covid deaths and millions of hospitalizations in the US.  Fact is vaccination can reduce covid deaths and hospitalizations by 66% to 99%.  Now 99% of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur among unvaccinated population.

     

    wow.   i 100% agree with u.  very good post ! thumbs_up

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2021 - 11:52 AM ET #2533

    The link below is 124 pages of death and serious after effects to human beings caused by the vaccine. I hope thirdperson takes time to call the families inside the link and tells them how wrong they are. 

    copy-of-reports-of-injury-after-v.pdf (pdf-archive.com)

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    The link below is 124 pages of death and serious after effects to human beings caused by the vaccine. I hope thirdperson takes time to call the families inside the link and tells them how wrong they are. 

    copy-of-reports-of-injury-after-v.pdf (pdf-archive.com)

     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2021 - 12:02 PM ET #2534

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The link below is 124 pages of death and serious after effects to human beings caused by the vaccine. I hope thirdperson takes time to call the families inside the link and tells them how wrong they are.  copy-of-reports-of-injury-after-v.pdf (pdf-archive.com)

     

    Vaccine??   OooHHH!   The vaccine that trump pushed for and has openly taken credit for MULTIPLE times before and after HE got vaccinated himself, with his entire family!

     Since trump can do no wrong, ever,  then OBVIOUSLY sundance is mistaken.....................AGAIN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The link below is 124 pages of death and serious after effects to human beings caused by the vaccine. I hope thirdperson takes time to call the families inside the link and tells them how wrong they are.  copy-of-reports-of-injury-after-v.pdf (pdf-archive.com)

     

    Vaccine??   OooHHH!   The vaccine that trump pushed for and has openly taken credit for MULTIPLE times before and after HE got vaccinated himself, with his entire family!

     Since trump can do no wrong, ever,  then OBVIOUSLY sundance is mistaken.....................AGAIN!

     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2021 - 12:09 PM ET #2535

    You have issues fubah. Not once did I mention the legitimate President of the United States! I only speak/spoke of the deadly vaccine that the ptb want us to take. You included. The 124 pages deserves to be part of the written record inside the politics forum of covers for as long the forum is allowed to operate.

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    You have issues fubah. Not once did I mention the legitimate President of the United States! I only speak/spoke of the deadly vaccine that the ptb want us to take. You included. The 124 pages deserves to be part of the written record inside the politics forum of covers for as long the forum is allowed to operate.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2021 - 5:08 PM ET #2536

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The link below is 124 pages of death and serious after effects to human beings caused by the vaccine. I hope thirdperson takes time to call the families inside the link and tells them how wrong they are.  copy-of-reports-of-injury-after-v.pdf (pdf-archive.com)

     

     

    Vaccine??   OooHHH!   The vaccine that trump pushed for and has openly taken credit for MULTIPLE times before and after HE got vaccinated himself, with his entire family!

     Since trump can do no wrong, ever,  then OBVIOUSLY sundance is mistaken.....................AGAIN!

    yep sundance is referring directly to the very same vaccines that rump is still prancing around demanding he deserves more credit for .  and yep him and his family did get vaccinated

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The link below is 124 pages of death and serious after effects to human beings caused by the vaccine. I hope thirdperson takes time to call the families inside the link and tells them how wrong they are.  copy-of-reports-of-injury-after-v.pdf (pdf-archive.com)

     

     

    Vaccine??   OooHHH!   The vaccine that trump pushed for and has openly taken credit for MULTIPLE times before and after HE got vaccinated himself, with his entire family!

     Since trump can do no wrong, ever,  then OBVIOUSLY sundance is mistaken.....................AGAIN!

    yep sundance is referring directly to the very same vaccines that rump is still prancing around demanding he deserves more credit for .  and yep him and his family did get vaccinated

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2021 - 5:35 PM ET #2537

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The link below is 124 pages of death and serious after effects to human beings caused by the vaccine. I hope thirdperson takes time to call the families inside the link and tells them how wrong they are.  copy-of-reports-of-injury-after-v.pdf (pdf-archive.com)     Vaccine??   OooHHH!   The vaccine that trump pushed for and has openly taken credit for MULTIPLE times before and after HE got vaccinated himself, with his entire family!  Since trump can do no wrong, ever,  then OBVIOUSLY sundance is mistaken.....................AGAIN! yep sundance is referring directly to the very same vaccines that rump is still prancing around demanding he deserves more credit for .  and yep him and his family did get vaccinated

    Do yourself a huge favor. Hit on the link below and listen to the legitimate President of the United States!

    RSBN (rsbnetwork.tv)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The link below is 124 pages of death and serious after effects to human beings caused by the vaccine. I hope thirdperson takes time to call the families inside the link and tells them how wrong they are.  copy-of-reports-of-injury-after-v.pdf (pdf-archive.com)     Vaccine??   OooHHH!   The vaccine that trump pushed for and has openly taken credit for MULTIPLE times before and after HE got vaccinated himself, with his entire family!  Since trump can do no wrong, ever,  then OBVIOUSLY sundance is mistaken.....................AGAIN! yep sundance is referring directly to the very same vaccines that rump is still prancing around demanding he deserves more credit for .  and yep him and his family did get vaccinated

    Do yourself a huge favor. Hit on the link below and listen to the legitimate President of the United States!

    RSBN (rsbnetwork.tv)

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

     

     

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The link below is 124 pages of death and serious after effects to human beings caused by the vaccine. I hope thirdperson takes time to call the families inside the link and tells them how wrong they are.  copy-of-reports-of-injury-after-v.pdf (pdf-archive.com)

     

     

    Vaccine??   OooHHH!   The vaccine that trump pushed for and has openly taken credit for MULTIPLE times before and after HE got vaccinated himself, with his entire family!

     Since trump can do no wrong, ever,  then OBVIOUSLY sundance is mistaken.....................AGAIN!

     

     

    yep sundance is referring directly to the very same vaccines that rump is still prancing around demanding he deserves more credit for .  and yep him and his family did get vaccinated

    Exactly.  Not sure why sundance would rail against trump's pet project - of which not only does trump take full ownership over the vaccines but he whines frequently that left-wing media isn't giving him enough credit for them!

    It's one of the very few things trump actually deserves credit for.

    Mind you it's not too far removed from applauding the guy who pulled the fire alarm to save lives -- when HE was also the arsonist that threw accelerant on the fires.  Should we be greatful, or angry?

    Let's ask trump and see what he says!

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

     

     

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The link below is 124 pages of death and serious after effects to human beings caused by the vaccine. I hope thirdperson takes time to call the families inside the link and tells them how wrong they are.  copy-of-reports-of-injury-after-v.pdf (pdf-archive.com)

     

     

    Vaccine??   OooHHH!   The vaccine that trump pushed for and has openly taken credit for MULTIPLE times before and after HE got vaccinated himself, with his entire family!

     Since trump can do no wrong, ever,  then OBVIOUSLY sundance is mistaken.....................AGAIN!

     

     

    yep sundance is referring directly to the very same vaccines that rump is still prancing around demanding he deserves more credit for .  and yep him and his family did get vaccinated

    Exactly.  Not sure why sundance would rail against trump's pet project - of which not only does trump take full ownership over the vaccines but he whines frequently that left-wing media isn't giving him enough credit for them!

    It's one of the very few things trump actually deserves credit for.

    Mind you it's not too far removed from applauding the guy who pulled the fire alarm to save lives -- when HE was also the arsonist that threw accelerant on the fires.  Should we be greatful, or angry?

    Let's ask trump and see what he says!

     

     

     
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    Still can't seem to grasp concepts of freedom.

    Freedom is mandating its choice. It's not directing or ordering it is negotiating and finding ways to understand the other view and realize it coming from a free citizen.

    Telling a person what to do and expect them to do it is an order and is not freedom. Preaenting a person with the facts and allowing a citizen to choose respectinv that choice us by the definition freedom of will.

    Somehow this has become so confusing that entire premise of America and freedom is becoming lost to authoritarian rule of policy makers in Washington D.C.. 

    And those are the probably the worst at making any decision beneficial to America and the general public.... we own the government,  the government isn't  big  brother.... 

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    Still can't seem to grasp concepts of freedom.

    Freedom is mandating its choice. It's not directing or ordering it is negotiating and finding ways to understand the other view and realize it coming from a free citizen.

    Telling a person what to do and expect them to do it is an order and is not freedom. Preaenting a person with the facts and allowing a citizen to choose respectinv that choice us by the definition freedom of will.

    Somehow this has become so confusing that entire premise of America and freedom is becoming lost to authoritarian rule of policy makers in Washington D.C.. 

    And those are the probably the worst at making any decision beneficial to America and the general public.... we own the government,  the government isn't  big  brother.... 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2021 - 10:53 PM ET #2540

    With all that stated Sundance this is wha t covid is doing in Brazil following trumps guidance and exploring herd immunity.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-57733540

    Daily death count 2000 a day . In Brazil. 

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    With all that stated Sundance this is wha t covid is doing in Brazil following trumps guidance and exploring herd immunity.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-57733540

    Daily death count 2000 a day . In Brazil. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Still can't seem to grasp concepts of freedom. Freedom is mandating its choice. It's not directing or ordering it 

    Somehow this has become so confusing that entire premise of America and freedom is becoming lost to authoritarian rule of policy makers in Washington D.C..  And those are the probably the worst at making any decision beneficial to America and the general public....

     

    Yeah!  Screw the Dem gov't and their dumbass laws!

    No more mandatory auto insurance!!

    No more mandatory seatbelts!!

    No more stupid DWI and DUI laws!!  an_2drinks

    No more laws that limit my driving speed in school zones!!  an_dance

    MY CAR; MY CHOICE !!! 

    It's time for the revolution, brothers & sisters! 

    WE HAVE TO TAKE BACK OUR FREEDOMS TO DO WHATEVER WE WANT, WHEREVER WE WANT! 


    Their laws don't really protect Americans or make it safer at all;
    it's just typical communist-Democrat overreach to wield power
    and take away all our liberties.   Eternal shame on them.

    DEMS restrict our freedom of choice!!!

    We have the right to risk others' lives!

     

    an_light  NOTE: intended as sarcastic-HUMOR,   but to illustrate a valid point

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Still can't seem to grasp concepts of freedom. Freedom is mandating its choice. It's not directing or ordering it 

    Somehow this has become so confusing that entire premise of America and freedom is becoming lost to authoritarian rule of policy makers in Washington D.C..  And those are the probably the worst at making any decision beneficial to America and the general public....

     

    Yeah!  Screw the Dem gov't and their dumbass laws!

    No more mandatory auto insurance!!

    No more mandatory seatbelts!!

    No more stupid DWI and DUI laws!!  an_2drinks

    No more laws that limit my driving speed in school zones!!  an_dance

    MY CAR; MY CHOICE !!! 

    It's time for the revolution, brothers & sisters! 

    WE HAVE TO TAKE BACK OUR FREEDOMS TO DO WHATEVER WE WANT, WHEREVER WE WANT! 


    Their laws don't really protect Americans or make it safer at all;
    it's just typical communist-Democrat overreach to wield power
    and take away all our liberties.   Eternal shame on them.

    DEMS restrict our freedom of choice!!!

    We have the right to risk others' lives!

     

    an_light  NOTE: intended as sarcastic-HUMOR,   but to illustrate a valid point

     

     

     

     

     
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    You serm to tgink that you need the direction amd u derstanding of some nenevelent queen to live you dont. Nreath in and out it really that easy.  

    Wang authoritarian rule well Russia and China are calling love yo parade an American defector for propaganda purposes. 

     

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    You serm to tgink that you need the direction amd u derstanding of some nenevelent queen to live you dont. Nreath in and out it really that easy.  

    Wang authoritarian rule well Russia and China are calling love yo parade an American defector for propaganda purposes. 

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Yeah!  Screw the Dem gov't and their dumbass laws!

    No more mandatory auto insurance!!

    No more mandatory seatbelts!!

    No more stupid DWI and DUI laws!!  an_2drinks

    No more laws that limit my driving speed in school zones!!  an_dance

    MY CAR; MY CHOICE !!! 

    It's time for the revolution, brothers & sisters! 

    WE HAVE TO TAKE BACK OUR FREEDOMS TO DO WHATEVER WE WANT, WHEREVER WE WANT! 


    Their laws don't really protect Americans or make it safer at all;
    it's just typical communist-Democrat overreach to wield power
    and take away all our liberties.   Eternal shame on them.

    ---------------

    You serm to tgink that you need the direction amd u derstanding of some nenevelent queen to live you dont. Nreath in and out it really that easy.   Wang authoritarian rule well Russia and China are calling love yo parade an American defector for propaganda purposes.

    You're wrong.   Again.   I don't think that at all.

    I believe in democratically elected government (local/state/federal) to make laws and decisions ON OUR BEHALF; "a Government of the people, by the people, for the people" (not authoritarian regime) - since that is what  WE specifically voted them into office for.  Whether those people WE elected do it or not is another issue, but regardless, WE are responsible for the people WE choose to put in office to make decisions! And if  WE believe they have failed us,  then every 2 years WE have the choice to change the government at the voting booth, to reverse any laws we disagree with or enact better ones.

    Personally I believe mandatory auto-insurance laws,  speed-limits in school zones, and DWI/DUI laws, among many others are good and righteous in our society (at any level of government)

    Others, however, might whine and bitch such laws are made by "authoritarian government" (or a queen) and are an unfair and unjstified impingement on their "freedom to do whatever they want"

     

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Yeah!  Screw the Dem gov't and their dumbass laws!

    No more mandatory auto insurance!!

    No more mandatory seatbelts!!

    No more stupid DWI and DUI laws!!  an_2drinks

    No more laws that limit my driving speed in school zones!!  an_dance

    MY CAR; MY CHOICE !!! 

    It's time for the revolution, brothers & sisters! 

    WE HAVE TO TAKE BACK OUR FREEDOMS TO DO WHATEVER WE WANT, WHEREVER WE WANT! 


    Their laws don't really protect Americans or make it safer at all;
    it's just typical communist-Democrat overreach to wield power
    and take away all our liberties.   Eternal shame on them.

    ---------------

    You serm to tgink that you need the direction amd u derstanding of some nenevelent queen to live you dont. Nreath in and out it really that easy.   Wang authoritarian rule well Russia and China are calling love yo parade an American defector for propaganda purposes.

    You're wrong.   Again.   I don't think that at all.

    I believe in democratically elected government (local/state/federal) to make laws and decisions ON OUR BEHALF; "a Government of the people, by the people, for the people" (not authoritarian regime) - since that is what  WE specifically voted them into office for.  Whether those people WE elected do it or not is another issue, but regardless, WE are responsible for the people WE choose to put in office to make decisions! And if  WE believe they have failed us,  then every 2 years WE have the choice to change the government at the voting booth, to reverse any laws we disagree with or enact better ones.

    Personally I believe mandatory auto-insurance laws,  speed-limits in school zones, and DWI/DUI laws, among many others are good and righteous in our society (at any level of government)

    Others, however, might whine and bitch such laws are made by "authoritarian government" (or a queen) and are an unfair and unjstified impingement on their "freedom to do whatever they want"

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2021 - 10:13 AM ET #2544

     

     

    CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said on Thursday that
    preliminary data show that 99.5% of COVID deaths in the US
    in the last 6 months have been UNvaccinated individuals.

     

    (Thanks to thirdperson who first reported this relevant stat)

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    CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said on Thursday that
    preliminary data show that 99.5% of COVID deaths in the US
    in the last 6 months have been UNvaccinated individuals.

     

    (Thanks to thirdperson who first reported this relevant stat)

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2021 - 3:12 PM ET #2545

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

     

    CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said on Thursday that
    preliminary data show that 99.5% of COVID deaths in the US
    in the last 6 months have been UNvaccinated individuals.

     

    (Thanks to thirdperson who first reported this relevant stat)

     

    covid rising everywhere across the us again   

    delta variant believed about 60% more transmissible

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

     

    CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said on Thursday that
    preliminary data show that 99.5% of COVID deaths in the US
    in the last 6 months have been UNvaccinated individuals.

     

    (Thanks to thirdperson who first reported this relevant stat)

     

    covid rising everywhere across the us again   

    delta variant believed about 60% more transmissible

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2021 - 4:32 PM ET #2546

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:     CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said on Thursday that preliminary data show that 99.5% of COVID deaths in the US in the last 6 months have been UNvaccinated individuals.   (Thanks to thirdperson who first reported this relevant stat)   covid rising everywhere across the us again    delta variant believed about 60% more transmissible

    I will be the 1st to let you know if I run into the variant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:     CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said on Thursday that preliminary data show that 99.5% of COVID deaths in the US in the last 6 months have been UNvaccinated individuals.   (Thanks to thirdperson who first reported this relevant stat)   covid rising everywhere across the us again    delta variant believed about 60% more transmissible

    I will be the 1st to let you know if I run into the variant!

     
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    You can retype it anyway you wish.

    But this is why your argument is erroneous.

    Maine has zero new cases and no new deaths with an open border tourism trade.

    Zero mask mandates.... herd immunity.

    While everyone was freaking out some did not get tested had no a very little symptoms and went to work. They were the essential worker lot.... the ones who had to work police fire cashiers garbage men construction and cleaners ambulance nurses ect. And we're exposed to covid without the vaccination. 

    This became the core to the herd immunity those peasants like myself who wake up work go to sleep rinse and repeat the next day... showers are a God send at times....

    This became the other factor to covid those who went got checked quarantined needed the vaccine the others lived or died working through it and both together have achieved herd immunity. 

    End of sentence,  yes where massive amounts of vaccine is needed India China Brazil Africa Europe. The vaccine can be exported u til the same result as here resides there.

    We need to start access to the world for our  vaccines and stop cluster variants from emerging 

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    You can retype it anyway you wish.

    But this is why your argument is erroneous.

    Maine has zero new cases and no new deaths with an open border tourism trade.

    Zero mask mandates.... herd immunity.

    While everyone was freaking out some did not get tested had no a very little symptoms and went to work. They were the essential worker lot.... the ones who had to work police fire cashiers garbage men construction and cleaners ambulance nurses ect. And we're exposed to covid without the vaccination. 

    This became the core to the herd immunity those peasants like myself who wake up work go to sleep rinse and repeat the next day... showers are a God send at times....

    This became the other factor to covid those who went got checked quarantined needed the vaccine the others lived or died working through it and both together have achieved herd immunity. 

    End of sentence,  yes where massive amounts of vaccine is needed India China Brazil Africa Europe. The vaccine can be exported u til the same result as here resides there.

    We need to start access to the world for our  vaccines and stop cluster variants from emerging 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2021 - 5:25 PM ET #2548

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

     

    Yeah!  Screw the Dem gov't and their dumbass laws!

    No more mandatory auto insurance!!

    No more mandatory seatbelts!!

    No more stupid DWI and DUI laws!!  an_2drinks

    No more laws that limit my driving speed in school zones!!  an_dance

    MY CAR; MY CHOICE !!! 

    It's time for the revolution, brothers & sisters! 

    WE HAVE TO TAKE BACK OUR FREEDOMS TO DO WHATEVER WE WANT, WHEREVER WE WANT! 


    Their laws don't really protect Americans or make it safer at all;
    it's just typical communist-Democrat overreach to wield power
    and take away all our liberties.   Eternal shame on them.

    ---------------

    You serm to tgink that you need the direction amd u derstanding of some nenevelent queen to live you dont. Nreath in and out it really that easy.   Wang authoritarian rule well Russia and China are calling love yo parade an American defector for propaganda purposes.

     

    You're wrong.   Again.   I don't think that at all.

    I believe in democratically elected government (local/state/federal) to make laws and decisions ON OUR BEHALF; "a Government of the people, by the people, for the people" (not authoritarian regime) - since that is what  WE specifically voted them into office for.  Whether those people WE elected do it or not is another issue, but regardless, WE are responsible for the people WE choose to put in office to make decisions! And if  WE believe they have failed us,  then every 2 years WE have the choice to change the government at the voting booth, to reverse any laws we disagree with or enact better ones.

    Personally I believe mandatory auto-insurance laws,  speed-limits in school zones, and DWI/DUI laws, among many others are good and righteous in our society (at any level of government)

     

    Others, however, might whine and bitch such laws are made by "authoritarian government" (or a queen) and are an unfair and unjstified impingement on their "freedom to do whatever they want"

     

    goodpost    excellent points fubah2    thumbs_up

     

     

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

     

    Yeah!  Screw the Dem gov't and their dumbass laws!

    No more mandatory auto insurance!!

    No more mandatory seatbelts!!

    No more stupid DWI and DUI laws!!  an_2drinks

    No more laws that limit my driving speed in school zones!!  an_dance

    MY CAR; MY CHOICE !!! 

    It's time for the revolution, brothers & sisters! 

    WE HAVE TO TAKE BACK OUR FREEDOMS TO DO WHATEVER WE WANT, WHEREVER WE WANT! 


    Their laws don't really protect Americans or make it safer at all;
    it's just typical communist-Democrat overreach to wield power
    and take away all our liberties.   Eternal shame on them.

    ---------------

    You serm to tgink that you need the direction amd u derstanding of some nenevelent queen to live you dont. Nreath in and out it really that easy.   Wang authoritarian rule well Russia and China are calling love yo parade an American defector for propaganda purposes.

     

    You're wrong.   Again.   I don't think that at all.

    I believe in democratically elected government (local/state/federal) to make laws and decisions ON OUR BEHALF; "a Government of the people, by the people, for the people" (not authoritarian regime) - since that is what  WE specifically voted them into office for.  Whether those people WE elected do it or not is another issue, but regardless, WE are responsible for the people WE choose to put in office to make decisions! And if  WE believe they have failed us,  then every 2 years WE have the choice to change the government at the voting booth, to reverse any laws we disagree with or enact better ones.

    Personally I believe mandatory auto-insurance laws,  speed-limits in school zones, and DWI/DUI laws, among many others are good and righteous in our society (at any level of government)

     

    Others, however, might whine and bitch such laws are made by "authoritarian government" (or a queen) and are an unfair and unjstified impingement on their "freedom to do whatever they want"

     

    goodpost    excellent points fubah2    thumbs_up

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2021 - 5:29 PM ET #2549

    All or no one. Is not realistic in any terms.

     

     

    Simply put American model and the diminished fatalities is a hibredi model of both herd immunity and vaccine abated.

    Now our allies are begging for the vaccine to arrive in significant numbers to begin abatement there Japan Germany France Spain Turkey and other major allies and partners. Than key developement interests central America south America....

    We need to feed the world before a new variant is found that is vaccine resistant. 

    At the end of the day we have a mersa in a virus and if immune to the vaccine and the antibodies of survivors will dominate until a new mrna vaccine can be addressed . And it will take 12 more months before it's approval from the fda. 

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    All or no one. Is not realistic in any terms.

     

     

    Simply put American model and the diminished fatalities is a hibredi model of both herd immunity and vaccine abated.

    Now our allies are begging for the vaccine to arrive in significant numbers to begin abatement there Japan Germany France Spain Turkey and other major allies and partners. Than key developement interests central America south America....

    We need to feed the world before a new variant is found that is vaccine resistant. 

    At the end of the day we have a mersa in a virus and if immune to the vaccine and the antibodies of survivors will dominate until a new mrna vaccine can be addressed . And it will take 12 more months before it's approval from the fda. 

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2021 - 5:30 PM ET #2550

    Again more propaganda cause hun admit it you don't give a flying fornication for anyone who is not a Democrat. And wealthy

    .. so .... 

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    Again more propaganda cause hun admit it you don't give a flying fornication for anyone who is not a Democrat. And wealthy

    .. so .... 

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