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    BREAKING: KASICH Was Offered the VP by DJ Trump, Jr

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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 11:44 AM ET #1

    Knowing that NO PRESIDENT EVER has lost Ohio and won the Presidency, Trump made a strong offer to Katich, to give him overarching power as VP. Ohio will have to be won w/o Kasich, and using a neighboring state governor in Indiana's Pence. 

    We see that Trump's campaign "gets it," that Ohio is everything. It cost Kerry in 04 vs Bush. 

    Trump NEEDS: #1 Ohio
    and of course Indiana

    Election is yet another Harvard Law School and Wall Street elitist (See Obama, Bill Clinton, Hillary, all the way back to JFK) who promise "togetherness and "inclusiveness" . Considered a hawk and pro Wall Street, she promises a "stable leadership" to keep business as usual in Washington. Average speaking ability and markedly uncomfortable with impromptu questioning, she has done only one press conference and screens journalists from controversial topics.

    vs TRUMP, an outsider and celebrity populist who promises greater security (condemned by antagonists and detractors as being INTOLERANT or even "racist"), comfortable on any stage for years, he is confident in being impromptu and unpredictable in his speeches and decision making. He attacks relentlessly and has been successful in making labels stick to his opponents, and although unseasoned as a politician, his campaign staffers are seasoned and strategize surprisingly well with limited staff and budget. They get it, that in order to win as a republican in a national election, you need to put the negative on quickly and never let up. 

    OHIO is extremely important and is the ONLY path to victory for either candidate. 



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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Knowing that NO PRESIDENT EVER has lost Ohio and won the Presidency, Trump made a strong offer to Katich, to give him overarching power as VP. Ohio will have to be won w/o Kasich, and using a neighboring state governor in Indiana's Pence. 

    We see that Trump's campaign "gets it," that Ohio is everything. It cost Kerry in 04 vs Bush. 

    Trump NEEDS: #1 Ohio
    and of course Indiana

    Election is yet another Harvard Law School and Wall Street elitist (See Obama, Bill Clinton, Hillary, all the way back to JFK) who promise "togetherness and "inclusiveness" . Considered a hawk and pro Wall Street, she promises a "stable leadership" to keep business as usual in Washington. Average speaking ability and markedly uncomfortable with impromptu questioning, she has done only one press conference and screens journalists from controversial topics.

    vs TRUMP, an outsider and celebrity populist who promises greater security (condemned by antagonists and detractors as being INTOLERANT or even "racist"), comfortable on any stage for years, he is confident in being impromptu and unpredictable in his speeches and decision making. He attacks relentlessly and has been successful in making labels stick to his opponents, and although unseasoned as a politician, his campaign staffers are seasoned and strategize surprisingly well with limited staff and budget. They get it, that in order to win as a republican in a national election, you need to put the negative on quickly and never let up. 

    OHIO is extremely important and is the ONLY path to victory for either candidate. 



     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 12:33 PM ET #2

    What does that tell you not only that Kasich turned it down, but has refused to endorse Trump. 
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    What does that tell you not only that Kasich turned it down, but has refused to endorse Trump. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 1:07 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    What does that tell you not only that Kasich turned it down, but has refused to endorse Trump. 

    It tells me that he wants to have a political future. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    What does that tell you not only that Kasich turned it down, but has refused to endorse Trump. 

    It tells me that he wants to have a political future. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 1:48 PM ET #4

    It tells me Kasich is a globalist. Does not mind TB infected Central Americans coming across the border to contaminate US citizens.
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    It tells me Kasich is a globalist. Does not mind TB infected Central Americans coming across the border to contaminate US citizens.
     
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    The negative could be turned back around to Kasich who appears to be out of step and an aging Nixonian repub (he likes to attach himself to Reagan), if Trump wins the election. Kasich logic was clear: It would have been a huge loss to give up a governor spot and also lose as a VP run with an outsider run at the presidency as republicans who always are facing an uphill battle nationally. Trump never attacked Kasich in debates, and his family thought Kasich would help win Ohio. The "pancake" criticism happened after Trump's offers were rejected by Kasich.

    Clinton will do to America what she did for the Middle East--left in shambles and disarray. Lost jobs, increased terrorism, less security in inner cities, more urban blight (she once was a board member of Walmart and helped increase their growth in the 90s). Lost jobs, less American sovereignty and less Constitutional adherence.

    TRUMP= American sovereignty; Constitutional adherence, job growth, trade benefits and security guarantees

    CLINTON=party of inclusion, increased multiculturalism, less pluralism and more decisions by elites, further globalist expansion and less American sovereignty in trade, citizenry, jobs, etc. More NAFTA expansion, more open borders globally, less trade barriers, less Constitutionality in decision making (abortion, gun control, etc)
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    The negative could be turned back around to Kasich who appears to be out of step and an aging Nixonian repub (he likes to attach himself to Reagan), if Trump wins the election. Kasich logic was clear: It would have been a huge loss to give up a governor spot and also lose as a VP run with an outsider run at the presidency as republicans who always are facing an uphill battle nationally. Trump never attacked Kasich in debates, and his family thought Kasich would help win Ohio. The "pancake" criticism happened after Trump's offers were rejected by Kasich.

    Clinton will do to America what she did for the Middle East--left in shambles and disarray. Lost jobs, increased terrorism, less security in inner cities, more urban blight (she once was a board member of Walmart and helped increase their growth in the 90s). Lost jobs, less American sovereignty and less Constitutional adherence.

    TRUMP= American sovereignty; Constitutional adherence, job growth, trade benefits and security guarantees

    CLINTON=party of inclusion, increased multiculturalism, less pluralism and more decisions by elites, further globalist expansion and less American sovereignty in trade, citizenry, jobs, etc. More NAFTA expansion, more open borders globally, less trade barriers, less Constitutionality in decision making (abortion, gun control, etc)
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 3:33 PM ET #6



    "NO PRESIDENT EVER has lost Ohio and won the Presidency"


    NOT TRUE.

    In 1960 Nixon won Ohio but Kennedy was elected President.

    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    "NO PRESIDENT EVER has lost Ohio and won the Presidency"


    NOT TRUE.

    In 1960 Nixon won Ohio but Kennedy was elected President.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 3:40 PM ET #7

    Trump's planned tariffs will not result in job growth.  The ensuing trade war will result in massive economic damage just as the Smoot-Hawley tariffs exacerbated the Great Depression.
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    Trump's planned tariffs will not result in job growth.  The ensuing trade war will result in massive economic damage just as the Smoot-Hawley tariffs exacerbated the Great Depression.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 3:48 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    What does that tell you not only that Kasich turned it down, but has refused to endorse Trump. 



    i'm sure it's fine.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/poll-john-kasich-ohio-approval-numbers-214549
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    What does that tell you not only that Kasich turned it down, but has refused to endorse Trump. 



    i'm sure it's fine.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/poll-john-kasich-ohio-approval-numbers-214549
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 3:58 PM ET #9


    *  OP might have meant that no Republican has won the White House without Ohio.


    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    *  OP might have meant that no Republican has won the White House without Ohio.


     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2016 - 4:54 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:




    i'm sure it's fine.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/poll-john-kasich-ohio-approval-numbers-214549

    I know right? As you and Lipps pointed out, he knows what he is doing. 

    It is not coincidence that Trump is losing Ohio, yet Kasich has record approval ratings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:




    i'm sure it's fine.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/poll-john-kasich-ohio-approval-numbers-214549

    I know right? As you and Lipps pointed out, he knows what he is doing. 

    It is not coincidence that Trump is losing Ohio, yet Kasich has record approval ratings.
     
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    Yes I stand corrected on the statement. I checked my facts. Nixon won Ohio and also Indiana, but lost Illinois by a nose hair. Weird results that year we may never see again. Nixon should have won that election if he takes Arizona and Illinois, even Hawaii was so close. 

    Trump needs Ohio  and Indiana like Nixon won, because Illinois (Chicago), Michigan (Detroit) and California are heavily 3rd worldish cesspools and are goners.


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    Yes I stand corrected on the statement. I checked my facts. Nixon won Ohio and also Indiana, but lost Illinois by a nose hair. Weird results that year we may never see again. Nixon should have won that election if he takes Arizona and Illinois, even Hawaii was so close. 

    Trump needs Ohio  and Indiana like Nixon won, because Illinois (Chicago), Michigan (Detroit) and California are heavily 3rd worldish cesspools and are goners.


     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 2:17 PM ET #12

    Also it appears that Mr Trump has denied offering Katich the VP, so I have to take back this "fact" also. 
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    Also it appears that Mr Trump has denied offering Katich the VP, so I have to take back this "fact" also. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 2:48 PM ET #13

    Neither Trump or Kasich will confirm the VP offer ever happened,but The New York Times reported as Fact. Another example of" All the News That Fits the Script".
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    Neither Trump or Kasich will confirm the VP offer ever happened,but The New York Times reported as Fact. Another example of" All the News That Fits the Script".
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 3:53 PM ET #14

     KASICH Was Offered the VP by DJ Trump, Jr.

    Can Donald Trump Jr. really offer someone a Vice-Presidency ?
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     KASICH Was Offered the VP by DJ Trump, Jr.

    Can Donald Trump Jr. really offer someone a Vice-Presidency ?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 21, 2016 - 4:42 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:



    OHIO is extremely important and is the ONLY path to victory for either candidate.




    Donald J. Trump and Hillary Clinton are deadlocked in Ohio, according to a new poll.... new survey from Suffolk University finds that Trump and Clinton each have the support of 44 % of likely voters, with 11 % still undecided.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:



    OHIO is extremely important and is the ONLY path to victory for either candidate.




    Donald J. Trump and Hillary Clinton are deadlocked in Ohio, according to a new poll.... new survey from Suffolk University finds that Trump and Clinton each have the support of 44 % of likely voters, with 11 % still undecided.



     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:

    Also it appears that Mr Trump has denied offering Katich the VP, so I have to take back this "fact" also. 

    You probably heard that "fact" on fox news and if that's the case chances are it was never a fact to begin with.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:

    Also it appears that Mr Trump has denied offering Katich the VP, so I have to take back this "fact" also. 

    You probably heard that "fact" on fox news and if that's the case chances are it was never a fact to begin with.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    Donald J. Trump and Hillary Clinton are deadlocked in Ohio, according to a new poll.... new survey from Suffolk University finds that Trump and Clinton each have the support of 44 % of likely voters, with 11 % still undecided.



    THURSDAY JULY 21

    Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Suffolk Clinton 43, Trump 39, Johnson 5, Stein 1 Clinton +4

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    Donald J. Trump and Hillary Clinton are deadlocked in Ohio, according to a new poll.... new survey from Suffolk University finds that Trump and Clinton each have the support of 44 % of likely voters, with 11 % still undecided.



    THURSDAY JULY 21

    Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Suffolk Clinton 43, Trump 39, Johnson 5, Stein 1 Clinton +4

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    THURSDAY JULY 21

    Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Suffolk Clinton 43, Trump 39, Johnson 5, Stein 1 Clinton +4




    Suffolk University survey has a MOE of plus or minus 4.4 percentage points......puts it at a virtual dead heat..................
    ...............
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    THURSDAY JULY 21

    Ohio: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein Suffolk Clinton 43, Trump 39, Johnson 5, Stein 1 Clinton +4




    Suffolk University survey has a MOE of plus or minus 4.4 percentage points......puts it at a virtual dead heat..................
    ...............
     
     
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    Good to know where the Covers Linesmen line up on this.
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    Good to know where the Covers Linesmen line up on this.
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