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Barack Obama says top 1 percent saw incomes quadruple, while typical family saw theirs barely budge
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Why doesn't Obama just drone them and confiscate their money and stop catching us in the middle class in the crossfire?
If he was really against these people he would not have enriched them with corporate handouts from the bailouts etc.
Why doesn't Obama just drone them and confiscate their money and stop catching us in the middle class in the crossfire?
If he was really against these people he would not have enriched them with corporate handouts from the bailouts etc.
There are 442 billionaires in the US.
Why doesn't Obama just drone them and confiscate their money and stop catching us in the middle class in the crossfire?
If he was really against these people he would not have enriched them with corporate handouts from the bailouts etc.
Amen!
Maybe trickle down can work by droning them all and then giving it to the people that really need it.
There are 442 billionaires in the US.
Why doesn't Obama just drone them and confiscate their money and stop catching us in the middle class in the crossfire?
If he was really against these people he would not have enriched them with corporate handouts from the bailouts etc.
Amen!
Maybe trickle down can work by droning them all and then giving it to the people that really need it.
If you are rich it is okay to steal from the poor. Why? Because poor people dont have any real power, no knowledge, they dont understand how rich rob them. But even if they do know, they cant do anything about it. If you criticize super rich, you suddenly become - classist, conspiracy theorist, or just an uneducated fool who doesn't have degree in economics.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jul/25/barack-obama/barack-obama-says-top-1-percent-saw-incomes-quadru/
If you are rich it is okay to steal from the poor. Why? Because poor people dont have any real power, no knowledge, they dont understand how rich rob them. But even if they do know, they cant do anything about it. If you criticize super rich, you suddenly become - classist, conspiracy theorist, or just an uneducated fool who doesn't have degree in economics.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jul/25/barack-obama/barack-obama-says-top-1-percent-saw-incomes-quadru/
Stiln,
can we agree that attempting to confiscate wealth from these 442 individuals, will ultimately result in some dude that makes 250K getting boned?
250K is rich by my measure, but I think that maybe someday I could get there. That is why I am not super stoked on treating the guy that makes 250K the same as Warren Buffett who gets to be the beneficiary of Government Bailout after government bailout.
How about a 99% tax on those who get rich selling F-16s to Egypt, and the politicians that make it happen.
How about a 100% tax on campaign money at the end of every election cycle.
Why does it always come down to hating people who could potentially actually be providing services, products, and jobs to their communities?
I think that is the big disconnect we are talking about here.
Obama is just as much in bed as any president before him. Just because he pays lip service to the " 99%" does not mean spit to me.
Stiln,
can we agree that attempting to confiscate wealth from these 442 individuals, will ultimately result in some dude that makes 250K getting boned?
250K is rich by my measure, but I think that maybe someday I could get there. That is why I am not super stoked on treating the guy that makes 250K the same as Warren Buffett who gets to be the beneficiary of Government Bailout after government bailout.
How about a 99% tax on those who get rich selling F-16s to Egypt, and the politicians that make it happen.
How about a 100% tax on campaign money at the end of every election cycle.
Why does it always come down to hating people who could potentially actually be providing services, products, and jobs to their communities?
I think that is the big disconnect we are talking about here.
Obama is just as much in bed as any president before him. Just because he pays lip service to the " 99%" does not mean spit to me.
Here I thought the GDP was the easiest marker to evaluate the US economy. GDP economic growth would add jobs,,there by reducing much of the poverty.
Maybe on face value it looks like President Obama has nothing to do with it. But,he does have a lot to do with influencing Democrats in Congress.. and Congress can do things,that can help the economy grow..
In fact just last week Bernanke said,that Congress could do more to help the U.S. economy ...if Obama would stop pitting the two party's against each other everytime he gives a speech and encourage less division..it would go a loooog way to growing this anemic economic recovery ..
Here I thought the GDP was the easiest marker to evaluate the US economy. GDP economic growth would add jobs,,there by reducing much of the poverty.
Maybe on face value it looks like President Obama has nothing to do with it. But,he does have a lot to do with influencing Democrats in Congress.. and Congress can do things,that can help the economy grow..
In fact just last week Bernanke said,that Congress could do more to help the U.S. economy ...if Obama would stop pitting the two party's against each other everytime he gives a speech and encourage less division..it would go a loooog way to growing this anemic economic recovery ..
So how much did Obama profit as President??
So how much did Obama profit as President??
Well the easiest way to evaluate the economy is this...
Well the easiest way to evaluate the economy is this...
Barack Obama says top 1 percent saw incomes quadruple, while typical family saw theirs barely budge
A reader asked us to check a dramatic statistic on income inequality from President Barack Obama’s recent speech on the economy in Galesburg, Ill.
"The income of the top 1 percent nearly quadrupled from 1979 to 2007, but the typical family’s incomes barely budged," Obama said in the July 24, 2013, speech.
When we asked the White House for supporting evidence, a spokesman pointed us to a study published in late 2011 by the Congressional Budget Office, the nonpartisan budget-analysis arm of Congress.
The study looked at income trends between 1979 and 2007 for various income levels, including the top 1 percent.
CBO found that over that period, the top 1 percent’s inflation-adjusted, after-tax income rose by a cumulative 275 percent. Over 28 years, that averages to almost a 10 percent increase each year.
That’s not quite quadrupling -- a 300 percent increase would have been a quadrupling -- but Obama did say "nearly quadrupled," and we think that qualifies.
As for Obama’s claim that the "typical family’s incomes barely budged," that seems on target, too.
For the 60 percent of the population in the middle of the income scale -- that is, excluding the top one-fifth and the bottom one-fifth of earners -- the cumulative growth in inflation-adjusted, after-tax household income was just under 40 percent. That may sound like a healthy increase, but it actually averages to just 1.4 percent per year.
While an income increase of 1.4 percent a year above inflation does mean the middle 60 percent advanced economically during the period studied, the increase was only about one-seventh as fast as it was for the top 1 percent. In this context, we think the description "barely budged" is reasonable.
We should point out that the CBO’s findings about the top 1 percent were a little different than the conclusions we drew in a previous fact-check. But there’s a good reason why.
We calculated that income for the top 1 percent grew between 1979 and 2008 by 169 percent, well below the 275 percent the CBO found. Our calculation was based on data compiled by economists Thomas Piketty and Emmanuel Saez, who are specialists in income inequality.
However, the Piketty-Saez data set excluded capital gains. Capital gains refers to income earned from investments such as stocks, and the lion's share of the nation’s capital gains go to the very wealthy. The CBO data, unlike the data from Piketty and Saez, included capital gains income, so that explains the discrepancy.
Our ruling
Obama said "the income of the top 1 percent nearly quadrupled from 1979 to 2007, but the typical family’s incomes barely budged." Calculations by the CBO, a highly credible agency, show an increase of 275 percent for the top 1 percent, which is pretty close to quadrupling. And for average households, income rose by comparatively modest amounts. We rate the claim True
.
Barack Obama says top 1 percent saw incomes quadruple, while typical family saw theirs barely budge
A reader asked us to check a dramatic statistic on income inequality from President Barack Obama’s recent speech on the economy in Galesburg, Ill.
"The income of the top 1 percent nearly quadrupled from 1979 to 2007, but the typical family’s incomes barely budged," Obama said in the July 24, 2013, speech.
When we asked the White House for supporting evidence, a spokesman pointed us to a study published in late 2011 by the Congressional Budget Office, the nonpartisan budget-analysis arm of Congress.
The study looked at income trends between 1979 and 2007 for various income levels, including the top 1 percent.
CBO found that over that period, the top 1 percent’s inflation-adjusted, after-tax income rose by a cumulative 275 percent. Over 28 years, that averages to almost a 10 percent increase each year.
That’s not quite quadrupling -- a 300 percent increase would have been a quadrupling -- but Obama did say "nearly quadrupled," and we think that qualifies.
As for Obama’s claim that the "typical family’s incomes barely budged," that seems on target, too.
For the 60 percent of the population in the middle of the income scale -- that is, excluding the top one-fifth and the bottom one-fifth of earners -- the cumulative growth in inflation-adjusted, after-tax household income was just under 40 percent. That may sound like a healthy increase, but it actually averages to just 1.4 percent per year.
While an income increase of 1.4 percent a year above inflation does mean the middle 60 percent advanced economically during the period studied, the increase was only about one-seventh as fast as it was for the top 1 percent. In this context, we think the description "barely budged" is reasonable.
We should point out that the CBO’s findings about the top 1 percent were a little different than the conclusions we drew in a previous fact-check. But there’s a good reason why.
We calculated that income for the top 1 percent grew between 1979 and 2008 by 169 percent, well below the 275 percent the CBO found. Our calculation was based on data compiled by economists Thomas Piketty and Emmanuel Saez, who are specialists in income inequality.
However, the Piketty-Saez data set excluded capital gains. Capital gains refers to income earned from investments such as stocks, and the lion's share of the nation’s capital gains go to the very wealthy. The CBO data, unlike the data from Piketty and Saez, included capital gains income, so that explains the discrepancy.
Our ruling
Obama said "the income of the top 1 percent nearly quadrupled from 1979 to 2007, but the typical family’s incomes barely budged." Calculations by the CBO, a highly credible agency, show an increase of 275 percent for the top 1 percent, which is pretty close to quadrupling. And for average households, income rose by comparatively modest amounts. We rate the claim True
.
Stiln,
can we agree that attempting to confiscate wealth from these 442 individuals, will ultimately result in some dude that makes 250K getting boned?
250K is rich by my measure, but I think that maybe someday I could get there. That is why I am not super stoked on treating the guy that makes 250K the same as Warren Buffett who gets to be the beneficiary of Government Bailout after government bailout.
How about a 99% tax on those who get rich selling F-16s to Egypt, and the politicians that make it happen.
How about a 100% tax on campaign money at the end of every election cycle.
Why does it always come down to hating people who could potentially actually be providing services, products, and jobs to their communities?
I think that is the big disconnect we are talking about here.
Obama is just as much in bed as any president before him. Just because he pays lip service to the " 99%" does not mean spit to me.
Yeah I do think the one problem with the Obama administration was that he set the bar at 250k I thought 500k might have been more appropriate.
Stiln,
can we agree that attempting to confiscate wealth from these 442 individuals, will ultimately result in some dude that makes 250K getting boned?
250K is rich by my measure, but I think that maybe someday I could get there. That is why I am not super stoked on treating the guy that makes 250K the same as Warren Buffett who gets to be the beneficiary of Government Bailout after government bailout.
How about a 99% tax on those who get rich selling F-16s to Egypt, and the politicians that make it happen.
How about a 100% tax on campaign money at the end of every election cycle.
Why does it always come down to hating people who could potentially actually be providing services, products, and jobs to their communities?
I think that is the big disconnect we are talking about here.
Obama is just as much in bed as any president before him. Just because he pays lip service to the " 99%" does not mean spit to me.
Yeah I do think the one problem with the Obama administration was that he set the bar at 250k I thought 500k might have been more appropriate.
When Barack Obama first entered the White House,his net worth was $1.3 million. Four years later,, that net worth has grown to nearly 11.8 million...this 1 %'er is doing real good in this down economy....
When Barack Obama first entered the White House,his net worth was $1.3 million. Four years later,, that net worth has grown to nearly 11.8 million...this 1 %'er is doing real good in this down economy....
Yeah I do think the one problem with the Obama administration was that he set the bar at 250k I thought 500k might have been more appropriate.
Yeah I do think the one problem with the Obama administration was that he set the bar at 250k I thought 500k might have been more appropriate.
..and 75% of Americans don’t have enough money saved to pay their bills for six months and 25% of them have no reserves to draw on in case of emergency.
Whats the economic agenda for our leader ( who lost our AAA credit rating on his watch )" We need to be talking about,
rebuilding our manufacturing base, educating our workforce.
upgrading our transportation ( more shovel ready stuff) and information networks."
We've got to make sure we're building sources of energy for the future, not just thinking about next year, but 10 years from now, 20 years from now,"......"That's why we've invested in solar and wind power, biofuels and energy-efficient cars."
That's good vision for future,but what about now?
Obama's answer to our economic problems right now ..is windmills and getting the wealthy to pay more taxes,so we can spend more and forcing Americans to purchase health insurance..
Sounds like a plan .. .............for a third world country.
..and 75% of Americans don’t have enough money saved to pay their bills for six months and 25% of them have no reserves to draw on in case of emergency.
Whats the economic agenda for our leader ( who lost our AAA credit rating on his watch )" We need to be talking about,
rebuilding our manufacturing base, educating our workforce.
upgrading our transportation ( more shovel ready stuff) and information networks."
We've got to make sure we're building sources of energy for the future, not just thinking about next year, but 10 years from now, 20 years from now,"......"That's why we've invested in solar and wind power, biofuels and energy-efficient cars."
That's good vision for future,but what about now?
Obama's answer to our economic problems right now ..is windmills and getting the wealthy to pay more taxes,so we can spend more and forcing Americans to purchase health insurance..
Sounds like a plan .. .............for a third world country.
Why arent corporations hiring more may be a sign of Technology.
Why arent corporations hiring more may be a sign of Technology.
In a healthy economy, small businesses create 75% of net new jobs..and they are not hiring because of the unknown impact of Obamacare and the regulations his administration is putting on them..plus they don't see a real recovery in Obamas' agenda ..this creates fear so hiring has become stagnant...
Instead of the Gov. giving money to large corps to give back to Obama through lobbing and campaign contributions to democrat causes ...His administration should be focusing on helping out small businesses and ridding them of uncertainty..
As I said in post #8 ...Obama has a lot to do with influencing Democrats in Congress.. and Congress can do things,that can help the economy grow..But he's not doing it ..he's causing division in Congress ,who are the ones that can do things to help the economy..
Heres how good Obama's economy recovery is going ..a friend of mine just returned from a visit to Disney World...and the place was packed...
The one thing that he noticed was almost everyone there was speaking a foreign language..because Americans can't afford to go there..
In a healthy economy, small businesses create 75% of net new jobs..and they are not hiring because of the unknown impact of Obamacare and the regulations his administration is putting on them..plus they don't see a real recovery in Obamas' agenda ..this creates fear so hiring has become stagnant...
Instead of the Gov. giving money to large corps to give back to Obama through lobbing and campaign contributions to democrat causes ...His administration should be focusing on helping out small businesses and ridding them of uncertainty..
As I said in post #8 ...Obama has a lot to do with influencing Democrats in Congress.. and Congress can do things,that can help the economy grow..But he's not doing it ..he's causing division in Congress ,who are the ones that can do things to help the economy..
Heres how good Obama's economy recovery is going ..a friend of mine just returned from a visit to Disney World...and the place was packed...
The one thing that he noticed was almost everyone there was speaking a foreign language..because Americans can't afford to go there..
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