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    All Vaccinated should Quarantine!

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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2021 - 4:19 PM ET #1

    From infectious disease expert Christian Perronne of the WHO. All vaccinated should quarantine over the winter or risk serious illness! 

    His stunning recommendation and opinion follows. This is a good time for the vaccinated to begin preparing for their isolation from society! Please stay away from the very safe unvaccinated! Please identify your vaccination status as you approach another human being!

    Perronne specializes in tropical pathologies and emerging infectious diseases. He was Chairman of the Specialized Committee on Communicable Diseases of the High Council of Public Health.

    Confirming the rapidly deteriorating situation in Israel and the UK, the infectious disease expert stated: “Vaccinated people should be put in quarantine, and should be isolated from the society.”

    He went on to say: “Unvaccinated people are not dangerous; vaccinated people are dangerous for others. It’s proven in Israel now – I’m in contact with many physicians in Israel – they’re having big problems, severe cases in the hospitals are among vaccinated people, and in UK also, you have the larger vaccination program and also there are problems.”

    The current working group on the COVID-19 pandemic in France was reported to be “utterly panicked” on receipt of the news, fearing pandemonium if it follows the guidance of the experts.

    Israeli doctor Kobi Haviv told Channel 13 News: “95% of seriously ill patients are vaccinated. Fully vaccinated people account for 85-90% of hospitalizations. We are opening more and more COVID branches. The effectiveness of vaccines is declining or disappearing.”

    The link to the article follows.

    All Vaxxinated People Must Quarantine Over the Winter Months or Risk Serious Illness!! – Canadian Times

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    From infectious disease expert Christian Perronne of the WHO. All vaccinated should quarantine over the winter or risk serious illness! 

    His stunning recommendation and opinion follows. This is a good time for the vaccinated to begin preparing for their isolation from society! Please stay away from the very safe unvaccinated! Please identify your vaccination status as you approach another human being!

    Perronne specializes in tropical pathologies and emerging infectious diseases. He was Chairman of the Specialized Committee on Communicable Diseases of the High Council of Public Health.

    Confirming the rapidly deteriorating situation in Israel and the UK, the infectious disease expert stated: “Vaccinated people should be put in quarantine, and should be isolated from the society.”

    He went on to say: “Unvaccinated people are not dangerous; vaccinated people are dangerous for others. It’s proven in Israel now – I’m in contact with many physicians in Israel – they’re having big problems, severe cases in the hospitals are among vaccinated people, and in UK also, you have the larger vaccination program and also there are problems.”

    The current working group on the COVID-19 pandemic in France was reported to be “utterly panicked” on receipt of the news, fearing pandemonium if it follows the guidance of the experts.

    Israeli doctor Kobi Haviv told Channel 13 News: “95% of seriously ill patients are vaccinated. Fully vaccinated people account for 85-90% of hospitalizations. We are opening more and more COVID branches. The effectiveness of vaccines is declining or disappearing.”

    The link to the article follows.

    All Vaxxinated People Must Quarantine Over the Winter Months or Risk Serious Illness!! – Canadian Times

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2021 - 4:32 PM ET #2

    @sundance

     Who knew? Probably the WHO knew from the very beginning this would happen given the Bill Gates agenda they are obliged to follow.

    Yea -  but, but, but, Fauci said "trust the science".

    Relax. I'm unvaxxed!
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    @sundance

     Who knew? Probably the WHO knew from the very beginning this would happen given the Bill Gates agenda they are obliged to follow.

    Yea -  but, but, but, Fauci said "trust the science".

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2021 - 4:39 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    @sundance  Who knew? Probably the WHO knew from the very beginning this would happen given the Bill Gates agenda they are obliged to follow. Yea -  but, but, but, Fauci said "trust the science".

    Not the 100M (just a guess) or so who have been vaccinated in the US. The slow death of all the vaccinated will be hard to watch. Fauci needs to be in the gallows stat! Bring the 'Scarf Lady' also! Fauci will need company! 

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    @sundance  Who knew? Probably the WHO knew from the very beginning this would happen given the Bill Gates agenda they are obliged to follow. Yea -  but, but, but, Fauci said "trust the science".

    Not the 100M (just a guess) or so who have been vaccinated in the US. The slow death of all the vaccinated will be hard to watch. Fauci needs to be in the gallows stat! Bring the 'Scarf Lady' also! Fauci will need company! 

     

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2021 - 5:04 PM ET #4

    Where were all Supporters for the trump insurrection Rallye ? What are they afraid of catching COVID-19.. Johnson Jordan Trump.....Hello ? The lambs were lead to slaughter by PT Trump & his Clown ! Lmao new_laugh_cry

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    Where were all Supporters for the trump insurrection Rallye ? What are they afraid of catching COVID-19.. Johnson Jordan Trump.....Hello ? The lambs were lead to slaughter by PT Trump & his Clown ! Lmao new_laugh_cry

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2021 - 5:34 PM ET #5

    You are way off topic joe.  Please do better next time.

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    You are way off topic joe.  Please do better next time.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2021 - 6:32 PM ET #6

    It's against the Nuremberg Code to force vaccinations on a person and informed consent overrides public policy. Theses despotic Covid mandates are Democide and eugenics mass genocide.

    The medical profession's allegiance to "first do no harm" has been inverted and if "we the people" ever collectively realize the depth of the Covid fraud, no politician or medical pseudoscience tyrant will ever be safe.

    "How significant is it that the two top FDA officials responsible for vaccine research RESIGNED last week and this week signed a letter in The Lancet that strongly warns against vaccine boosters??? This is a remarkable sign that the project of government-managed virus mitigation is in the final steps before falling apart."     brownstone.org/articles/the-meaning-of-the-FDA-resignations.        9/14/2021

    Relax. I'm unvaxxed!
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    It's against the Nuremberg Code to force vaccinations on a person and informed consent overrides public policy. Theses despotic Covid mandates are Democide and eugenics mass genocide.

    The medical profession's allegiance to "first do no harm" has been inverted and if "we the people" ever collectively realize the depth of the Covid fraud, no politician or medical pseudoscience tyrant will ever be safe.

    "How significant is it that the two top FDA officials responsible for vaccine research RESIGNED last week and this week signed a letter in The Lancet that strongly warns against vaccine boosters??? This is a remarkable sign that the project of government-managed virus mitigation is in the final steps before falling apart."     brownstone.org/articles/the-meaning-of-the-FDA-resignations.        9/14/2021

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2021 - 12:58 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Christian Perronne  the infectious disease expert stated: “Vaccinated people should be put in quarantine, and should be isolated from the society.” He went on to say: “Unvaccinated people are not dangerous; vaccinated people are dangerous for others. 

    Israeli doctor Kobi Haviv told Channel 13 News: “95% of seriously ill patients are vaccinated. Fully vaccinated people account for 85-90% of hospitalizations.  All Vaxxinated People Must Quarantine Over the Winter Months or Risk Serious Illness!! – Canadian Times

    False that most covid hospitalized patients are vaccinated.  Wrong conclusions are drawn from videos manipulated or taken out of context.  No mention that doctor Haviv works in hospital ward serving elderly patients who are high risk and vaccinated early.  No mention that he supports vaccination.

    False that vaccinated people pose a greater danger to society than the unvaccinated.  No mention in video that doctor Perronne said, "severe cases in hospital are among vaccinated who are at risk from new variant and should isolate."  Breakthrough infections are rare among vaccinated people.  Probably one per 5,000 per week.  However unvaccinated people are more likely to be infected and infect others.  Despite similar viral loads initially, vaccination shortens the duration of virus transmission potential so vaccinated people are less likely to infect others.   Overall, vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths still occur among unvaccinated population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Christian Perronne  the infectious disease expert stated: “Vaccinated people should be put in quarantine, and should be isolated from the society.” He went on to say: “Unvaccinated people are not dangerous; vaccinated people are dangerous for others. 

    Israeli doctor Kobi Haviv told Channel 13 News: “95% of seriously ill patients are vaccinated. Fully vaccinated people account for 85-90% of hospitalizations.  All Vaxxinated People Must Quarantine Over the Winter Months or Risk Serious Illness!! – Canadian Times

    False that most covid hospitalized patients are vaccinated.  Wrong conclusions are drawn from videos manipulated or taken out of context.  No mention that doctor Haviv works in hospital ward serving elderly patients who are high risk and vaccinated early.  No mention that he supports vaccination.

    False that vaccinated people pose a greater danger to society than the unvaccinated.  No mention in video that doctor Perronne said, "severe cases in hospital are among vaccinated who are at risk from new variant and should isolate."  Breakthrough infections are rare among vaccinated people.  Probably one per 5,000 per week.  However unvaccinated people are more likely to be infected and infect others.  Despite similar viral loads initially, vaccination shortens the duration of virus transmission potential so vaccinated people are less likely to infect others.   Overall, vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths still occur among unvaccinated population.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2021 - 8:47 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Christian Perronne  the infectious disease expert stated: “Vaccinated people should be put in quarantine, and should be isolated from the society.” He went on to say: “Unvaccinated people are not dangerous; vaccinated people are dangerous for others.  Israeli doctor Kobi Haviv told Channel 13 News: “95% of seriously ill patients are vaccinated. Fully vaccinated people account for 85-90% of hospitalizations.  All Vaxxinated People Must Quarantine Over the Winter Months or Risk Serious Illness!! – Canadian Times False that most covid hospitalized patients are vaccinated.  Wrong conclusions are drawn from videos manipulated or taken out of context.  No mention that doctor Haviv works in hospital ward serving elderly patients who are high risk and vaccinated early.  No mention that he supports vaccination. False that vaccinated people pose a greater danger to society than the unvaccinated.  No mention in video that doctor Perronne said, "severe cases in hospital are among vaccinated who are at risk from new variant and should isolate."  Breakthrough infections are rare among vaccinated people.  Probably one per 5,000 per week.  However unvaccinated people are more likely to be infected and infect others.  Despite similar viral loads initially, vaccination shortens the duration of virus transmission potential so vaccinated people are less likely to infect others.   Overall, vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths still occur among unvaccinated population.

    So Israel reports that 78% of the adult population is vaccinated and 59% of hospitalizations are the vaccinated.

    To you, IS THAT A VAST MAJORITY????? 

    Just asking.

    Because just like I said back in July, it is not 99% unvaccinated and will not be in the near future. This data shows our future here in the states. Israel just had the highest 7-day average of cases since the pandemic began. 

    Looking at today's United States 7-day average of COVID cases we are 3.25 times higher than at this date last year. We have a 7-day average of 2.04 times more deaths per day.

    GREAT JOB JOE, enjoy your vacation in Delaware!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Christian Perronne  the infectious disease expert stated: “Vaccinated people should be put in quarantine, and should be isolated from the society.” He went on to say: “Unvaccinated people are not dangerous; vaccinated people are dangerous for others.  Israeli doctor Kobi Haviv told Channel 13 News: “95% of seriously ill patients are vaccinated. Fully vaccinated people account for 85-90% of hospitalizations.  All Vaxxinated People Must Quarantine Over the Winter Months or Risk Serious Illness!! – Canadian Times False that most covid hospitalized patients are vaccinated.  Wrong conclusions are drawn from videos manipulated or taken out of context.  No mention that doctor Haviv works in hospital ward serving elderly patients who are high risk and vaccinated early.  No mention that he supports vaccination. False that vaccinated people pose a greater danger to society than the unvaccinated.  No mention in video that doctor Perronne said, "severe cases in hospital are among vaccinated who are at risk from new variant and should isolate."  Breakthrough infections are rare among vaccinated people.  Probably one per 5,000 per week.  However unvaccinated people are more likely to be infected and infect others.  Despite similar viral loads initially, vaccination shortens the duration of virus transmission potential so vaccinated people are less likely to infect others.   Overall, vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths still occur among unvaccinated population.

    So Israel reports that 78% of the adult population is vaccinated and 59% of hospitalizations are the vaccinated.

    To you, IS THAT A VAST MAJORITY????? 

    Just asking.

    Because just like I said back in July, it is not 99% unvaccinated and will not be in the near future. This data shows our future here in the states. Israel just had the highest 7-day average of cases since the pandemic began. 

    Looking at today's United States 7-day average of COVID cases we are 3.25 times higher than at this date last year. We have a 7-day average of 2.04 times more deaths per day.

    GREAT JOB JOE, enjoy your vacation in Delaware!!!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2021 - 8:53 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Where were all Supporters for the trump insurrection Rallye ?

    What are they afraid of catching COVID-19.. Johnson Jordan Trump.....Hello ?

    The lambs were lead to slaughter by PT Trump & his Clown ! Lmao new_laugh_cry

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    Where were all Supporters for the trump insurrection Rallye ?

    What are they afraid of catching COVID-19.. Johnson Jordan Trump.....Hello ?

    The lambs were lead to slaughter by PT Trump & his Clown ! Lmao new_laugh_cry

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2021 - 2:22 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    So Israel reports that 78% of the adult population is vaccinated and 59% of hospitalizations are the vaccinated. To you, IS THAT A VAST MAJORITY?????   Israel just had the highest 7-day average of cases since the pandemic began.  Looking at today's United States 7-day average of COVID cases we are 3.25 times higher than at this date last year. We have a 7-day average of 2.04 times more deaths per day.

    More accurate to look at rates of infection, hospitalization and death.  Israel health ministry says unvaccinated minority is far more likely to be infected, hospitalized or die than vaccinated majority.  Unvaccinated minority account for the majority of new cases, hospitalizations and deaths.  Israel proves vaccines work.  In countries with high vaccination, high virus spread result in low rate of serious illness.  However in countries with low vaccination, high virus spread result in high rate of serious illness. 

    Success of US vaccination has slowed overall death rate.  It took 113 days to go from 500,000 to 600,000 deaths.  The second slowest 100,000 death jump since the pandemic began.  Previously, US went from 400,000 to 500,000 deaths in just 35 days. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    So Israel reports that 78% of the adult population is vaccinated and 59% of hospitalizations are the vaccinated. To you, IS THAT A VAST MAJORITY?????   Israel just had the highest 7-day average of cases since the pandemic began.  Looking at today's United States 7-day average of COVID cases we are 3.25 times higher than at this date last year. We have a 7-day average of 2.04 times more deaths per day.

    More accurate to look at rates of infection, hospitalization and death.  Israel health ministry says unvaccinated minority is far more likely to be infected, hospitalized or die than vaccinated majority.  Unvaccinated minority account for the majority of new cases, hospitalizations and deaths.  Israel proves vaccines work.  In countries with high vaccination, high virus spread result in low rate of serious illness.  However in countries with low vaccination, high virus spread result in high rate of serious illness. 

    Success of US vaccination has slowed overall death rate.  It took 113 days to go from 500,000 to 600,000 deaths.  The second slowest 100,000 death jump since the pandemic began.  Previously, US went from 400,000 to 500,000 deaths in just 35 days. 

     
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    @mctrap

     Yes always, trust your politicians who obviously are very scientific in their own prolific fields of study, political science, I should have thought of that one a long time ago...darn it.

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    @mctrap

     Yes always, trust your politicians who obviously are very scientific in their own prolific fields of study, political science, I should have thought of that one a long time ago...darn it.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2021 - 3:18 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Christian Perronne  the infectious disease expert stated: “Vaccinated people should be put in quarantine, and should be isolated from the society.” He went on to say: “Unvaccinated people are not dangerous; vaccinated people are dangerous for others.  Israeli doctor Kobi Haviv told Channel 13 News: “95% of seriously ill patients are vaccinated. Fully vaccinated people account for 85-90% of hospitalizations.  All Vaxxinated People Must Quarantine Over the Winter Months or Risk Serious Illness!! – Canadian Times False that most covid hospitalized patients are vaccinated.  Wrong conclusions are drawn from videos manipulated or taken out of context.  No mention that doctor Haviv works in hospital ward serving elderly patients who are high risk and vaccinated early.  No mention that he supports vaccination. False that vaccinated people pose a greater danger to society than the unvaccinated.  No mention in video that doctor Perronne said, "severe cases in hospital are among vaccinated who are at risk from new variant and should isolate."  Breakthrough infections are rare among vaccinated people.  Probably one per 5,000 per week.  However unvaccinated people are more likely to be infected and infect others.  Despite similar viral loads initially, vaccination shortens the duration of virus transmission potential so vaccinated people are less likely to infect others.   Overall, vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths still occur among unvaccinated population.

    3rd, where did the OP state that "most covid hospitalizations are vaccinated".... seriously, where did the OP "say" this or "quote" someone saying this??? I don't see it.  I see some percentages shown from Israel.  Nothing else.  

    How did you get from "Israel covid percentages" to "False, most hospitializations are vaccinated".  There seems to be some missing steps in that assumption and you really shouldn't be putting words into someone elses mouth an_shake

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Christian Perronne  the infectious disease expert stated: “Vaccinated people should be put in quarantine, and should be isolated from the society.” He went on to say: “Unvaccinated people are not dangerous; vaccinated people are dangerous for others.  Israeli doctor Kobi Haviv told Channel 13 News: “95% of seriously ill patients are vaccinated. Fully vaccinated people account for 85-90% of hospitalizations.  All Vaxxinated People Must Quarantine Over the Winter Months or Risk Serious Illness!! – Canadian Times False that most covid hospitalized patients are vaccinated.  Wrong conclusions are drawn from videos manipulated or taken out of context.  No mention that doctor Haviv works in hospital ward serving elderly patients who are high risk and vaccinated early.  No mention that he supports vaccination. False that vaccinated people pose a greater danger to society than the unvaccinated.  No mention in video that doctor Perronne said, "severe cases in hospital are among vaccinated who are at risk from new variant and should isolate."  Breakthrough infections are rare among vaccinated people.  Probably one per 5,000 per week.  However unvaccinated people are more likely to be infected and infect others.  Despite similar viral loads initially, vaccination shortens the duration of virus transmission potential so vaccinated people are less likely to infect others.   Overall, vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths still occur among unvaccinated population.

    3rd, where did the OP state that "most covid hospitalizations are vaccinated".... seriously, where did the OP "say" this or "quote" someone saying this??? I don't see it.  I see some percentages shown from Israel.  Nothing else.  

    How did you get from "Israel covid percentages" to "False, most hospitializations are vaccinated".  There seems to be some missing steps in that assumption and you really shouldn't be putting words into someone elses mouth an_shake

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2021 - 3:21 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Christian Perronne  the infectious disease expert stated: “Vaccinated people should be put in quarantine, and should be isolated from the society.” He went on to say: “Unvaccinated people are not dangerous; vaccinated people are dangerous for others.  Israeli doctor Kobi Haviv told Channel 13 News: “95% of seriously ill patients are vaccinated. Fully vaccinated people account for 85-90% of hospitalizations.  All Vaxxinated People Must Quarantine Over the Winter Months or Risk Serious Illness!! – Canadian Times False that most covid hospitalized patients are vaccinated.  Wrong conclusions are drawn from videos manipulated or taken out of context.  No mention that doctor Haviv works in hospital ward serving elderly patients who are high risk and vaccinated early.  No mention that he supports vaccination. False that vaccinated people pose a greater danger to society than the unvaccinated.  No mention in video that doctor Perronne said, "severe cases in hospital are among vaccinated who are at risk from new variant and should isolate."  Breakthrough infections are rare among vaccinated people.  Probably one per 5,000 per week.  However unvaccinated people are more likely to be infected and infect others.  Despite similar viral loads initially, vaccination shortens the duration of virus transmission potential so vaccinated people are less likely to infect others.   Overall, vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths still occur among unvaccinated population.

    Very true.... good job, you got one right (kinda) finally.  The shortened duration period was a difference of 2 or 3 days I believe.... 

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Christian Perronne  the infectious disease expert stated: “Vaccinated people should be put in quarantine, and should be isolated from the society.” He went on to say: “Unvaccinated people are not dangerous; vaccinated people are dangerous for others.  Israeli doctor Kobi Haviv told Channel 13 News: “95% of seriously ill patients are vaccinated. Fully vaccinated people account for 85-90% of hospitalizations.  All Vaxxinated People Must Quarantine Over the Winter Months or Risk Serious Illness!! – Canadian Times False that most covid hospitalized patients are vaccinated.  Wrong conclusions are drawn from videos manipulated or taken out of context.  No mention that doctor Haviv works in hospital ward serving elderly patients who are high risk and vaccinated early.  No mention that he supports vaccination. False that vaccinated people pose a greater danger to society than the unvaccinated.  No mention in video that doctor Perronne said, "severe cases in hospital are among vaccinated who are at risk from new variant and should isolate."  Breakthrough infections are rare among vaccinated people.  Probably one per 5,000 per week.  However unvaccinated people are more likely to be infected and infect others.  Despite similar viral loads initially, vaccination shortens the duration of virus transmission potential so vaccinated people are less likely to infect others.   Overall, vast majority of covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths still occur among unvaccinated population.

    Very true.... good job, you got one right (kinda) finally.  The shortened duration period was a difference of 2 or 3 days I believe.... 

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