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    A rare artifact has been seized.

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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2021 - 7:55 PM ET #1

    The oldest known writing is found a tablet the text was sold to Hobby Lobby who bought it at auction for 1.6 mlilion. Tge object is alleged to be smuggled from iraq in 2003. And sold through a London agent. 

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    Isis destroyed many artifacts of texts from antiquity that were not Muslim . This one survived being housed in a church in America. 

    So obviously we need to send it back to  Baghdad for extremist to have a second chance to destroy ancient Nineveh scriptures...

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    The oldest known writing is found a tablet the text was sold to Hobby Lobby who bought it at auction for 1.6 mlilion. Tge object is alleged to be smuggled from iraq in 2003. And sold through a London agent. 

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    Isis destroyed many artifacts of texts from antiquity that were not Muslim . This one survived being housed in a church in America. 

    So obviously we need to send it back to  Baghdad for extremist to have a second chance to destroy ancient Nineveh scriptures...

     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2021 - 8:22 PM ET #2

     

    A U.S. District Court in New York has ordered the craft chain Hobby Lobby to forfeit the Gilgamesh Dream Tablet, a rare cuneiform text from ancient Mesopotamia that was smuggled into the country from Iraq, so that it may be returned.

    The company’s founder, Steve Green, bought the 3,500-year-old Akkadian artifact in 2014. The purchase was intended for the then-forthcoming Museum of the Bible, in Washington, D.C. But the collection the Evangelical billionaire amassed turned out to be chock full of looted antiquities, the Gilgamesh Dream tablet chief among them.

    “This forfeiture represents an important milestone on the path to returning this rare and ancient masterpiece of world literature to its country of origin,” acting U.S. Attorney Jacquelyn M. Kasulis for the Eastern District of New York said in a statement. “This office is committed to combating the black-market sale of cultural property and the smuggling of looted artifacts.”

     

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/rare-cuneiform-tablet-bearing-portion-epic-gilgamesh-forfeited-united-states

    https://news.artnet.com/art-world/government-forfeiture-hobby-lobby-gilgamesh-tablet-1993303

    The Gilgamesh Dream Tablet is so named because it contains a segment from the Epic of Gilgamesh, believed to be one the world’s oldest religious texts, in which the poem’s titular hero recounts his dreams to his mother. The poem was of interest to the Museum of the Bible because it also speaks of a great flood, similar to the story of Noah’s ark in Genesis, the first book of the Old Testament

    A man asks a women to interpret a dream in the table it was his mother. Obviously can't have that preserved.  Send it back to the be destroyed... 

     

     

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    A U.S. District Court in New York has ordered the craft chain Hobby Lobby to forfeit the Gilgamesh Dream Tablet, a rare cuneiform text from ancient Mesopotamia that was smuggled into the country from Iraq, so that it may be returned.

    The company’s founder, Steve Green, bought the 3,500-year-old Akkadian artifact in 2014. The purchase was intended for the then-forthcoming Museum of the Bible, in Washington, D.C. But the collection the Evangelical billionaire amassed turned out to be chock full of looted antiquities, the Gilgamesh Dream tablet chief among them.

    “This forfeiture represents an important milestone on the path to returning this rare and ancient masterpiece of world literature to its country of origin,” acting U.S. Attorney Jacquelyn M. Kasulis for the Eastern District of New York said in a statement. “This office is committed to combating the black-market sale of cultural property and the smuggling of looted artifacts.”

     

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/rare-cuneiform-tablet-bearing-portion-epic-gilgamesh-forfeited-united-states

    https://news.artnet.com/art-world/government-forfeiture-hobby-lobby-gilgamesh-tablet-1993303

    The Gilgamesh Dream Tablet is so named because it contains a segment from the Epic of Gilgamesh, believed to be one the world’s oldest religious texts, in which the poem’s titular hero recounts his dreams to his mother. The poem was of interest to the Museum of the Bible because it also speaks of a great flood, similar to the story of Noah’s ark in Genesis, the first book of the Old Testament

    A man asks a women to interpret a dream in the table it was his mother. Obviously can't have that preserved.  Send it back to the be destroyed... 

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2021 - 8:30 PM ET #3

    This isn't justice it is spite.

    Green has taken a public stance against the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) because of its inclusion of a provision mandating that companies include the "morning-after pill" in their health coverage. He sued the federal government in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc., overturning the mandate to provide that medication.

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    This isn't justice it is spite.

    Green has taken a public stance against the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) because of its inclusion of a provision mandating that companies include the "morning-after pill" in their health coverage. He sued the federal government in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc., overturning the mandate to provide that medication.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2021 - 8:45 PM ET #4

    He's returned, or in the process of returning, over 11,000 artifacts to both the Egyptian & Iraqi governments due to the criticism he received from scholars et al.

    Not a big fan of this guy & his evangelical fanaticism that trickles down to his employees. 

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    He's returned, or in the process of returning, over 11,000 artifacts to both the Egyptian & Iraqi governments due to the criticism he received from scholars et al.

    Not a big fan of this guy & his evangelical fanaticism that trickles down to his employees. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2021 - 9:21 PM ET #5

    Utnapishtim or Utanapishtim (Akkadian: ????) is a character in ancient Mesopotamian mythology. He is tasked by the god Enki (Ea) to create a giant ship to be called Preserver of Life in preparation of a giant flood that would wipe out all life. The character appears in the Epic of Gilgamesh

    .http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/mesopotamian/gilgamesh/The Biblical story of Noah parallels that of Utnapishtim.

    The first part deals with the taming of sasquatch  with charms of a lady of the evening  the escort and the creature and together. 

    Second part of not wishing to suffer his friends fate seeks out Noah and his ageless wife.

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    Utnapishtim or Utanapishtim (Akkadian: ????) is a character in ancient Mesopotamian mythology. He is tasked by the god Enki (Ea) to create a giant ship to be called Preserver of Life in preparation of a giant flood that would wipe out all life. The character appears in the Epic of Gilgamesh

    .http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/mesopotamian/gilgamesh/The Biblical story of Noah parallels that of Utnapishtim.

    The first part deals with the taming of sasquatch  with charms of a lady of the evening  the escort and the creature and together. 

    Second part of not wishing to suffer his friends fate seeks out Noah and his ageless wife.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2021 - 9:21 PM ET #6

    Just to remind you all what they actual do with Nineveh artifacts. 

    https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/.premium-from-nineveh-to-jonah-s-tomb-isis-war-1.5367019

    Here a thought make a 3d image model of the relic. Let them destroy that and house the real artifact somewhere in the dungeon  near  st Louis that houses the army records....

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    Just to remind you all what they actual do with Nineveh artifacts. 

    https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/.premium-from-nineveh-to-jonah-s-tomb-isis-war-1.5367019

    Here a thought make a 3d image model of the relic. Let them destroy that and house the real artifact somewhere in the dungeon  near  st Louis that houses the army records....

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2021 - 10:09 PM ET #7

    outrageous.    behavior of all involved shows a horrendous motive to us as a  society.

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    outrageous.    behavior of all involved shows a horrendous motive to us as a  society.

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