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    A Clinton-Sanders' Ticket is Unbeatable, and Inevitable?

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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2016 - 10:59 AM ET #1

    Evidence SUGGESTS Clinton is going to be swayed by her 700+ team to choose the aging bald headed socialist. 
    1) She has rarely attacked Bernie (mostly out of fear of isolating his voters)
    2) She is OBVIOUSLY not a true progressive and they despise and mistrust her after years in DC
    3) Sanders has NOT ONCE pointed out she is under two FBI investigations (something the right uses as a major offensive weapon)
    4)Clinton team operates off of demographics, and they know the voting constituencies that are grassroots and will activate the democrats to vote (recent immigrants and people of color, leftists, etc), and Bernie has the TRUST FACTOR and outsider appeal she lacks.
    5) Other

    In short, Trump might as well call it quits. It was a nice thought. Yeah, ket's build a wall, start trade wars, protect ourselves, build from within, not from with-out. But it is running against the machinery of globalism, corporate capitalism. Yes, the reckless wars and regime changing has made the world unstable politically and the emigration has put change in the air, and it is the fault of the Bush-Clinton power elites, but it is what THEY WANTED, and they want more until all unfolds into God knows what, who cares? Let it be.

    The ONLY factor that could stop a Clinton-Sanders ticket, is an indictment by the DOJ for fraud, conspiracy, obstruction of justice, lying, treason, deceitful practice under oath to protect US security, eliciting contributions in a position of authority, etc. WITHOUT INDICTMENT, the right wing, who feel it is their duty to protect the republic from loony liberalism, will look like screaming banshies who are making stuff up.

    WHY the FBI is waiting so long, and is planning a statement just before the Convention is both ODD and intriguing.




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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Evidence SUGGESTS Clinton is going to be swayed by her 700+ team to choose the aging bald headed socialist. 
    1) She has rarely attacked Bernie (mostly out of fear of isolating his voters)
    2) She is OBVIOUSLY not a true progressive and they despise and mistrust her after years in DC
    3) Sanders has NOT ONCE pointed out she is under two FBI investigations (something the right uses as a major offensive weapon)
    4)Clinton team operates off of demographics, and they know the voting constituencies that are grassroots and will activate the democrats to vote (recent immigrants and people of color, leftists, etc), and Bernie has the TRUST FACTOR and outsider appeal she lacks.
    5) Other

    In short, Trump might as well call it quits. It was a nice thought. Yeah, ket's build a wall, start trade wars, protect ourselves, build from within, not from with-out. But it is running against the machinery of globalism, corporate capitalism. Yes, the reckless wars and regime changing has made the world unstable politically and the emigration has put change in the air, and it is the fault of the Bush-Clinton power elites, but it is what THEY WANTED, and they want more until all unfolds into God knows what, who cares? Let it be.

    The ONLY factor that could stop a Clinton-Sanders ticket, is an indictment by the DOJ for fraud, conspiracy, obstruction of justice, lying, treason, deceitful practice under oath to protect US security, eliciting contributions in a position of authority, etc. WITHOUT INDICTMENT, the right wing, who feel it is their duty to protect the republic from loony liberalism, will look like screaming banshies who are making stuff up.

    WHY the FBI is waiting so long, and is planning a statement just before the Convention is both ODD and intriguing.




     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2016 - 11:07 AM ET #2

    There will be NO VP announcement until the Convention. If Hillary starts to lose ground and Trump pulls even in swing states (Penn now tied, Georgia is going RED, but OHIO still BLUE as well as NY and NJ)then look for her team to continue to sway Bernie as the VP. It is good for her to have an elderly VP, not a younger energetic and ambitious type. Not even a billion dollars (which is what the Democrats will be investing in her) will save her from indictment. 

    So we have another month of reacting to Trump's comments, calling him "racists" and the right clamoring for charges and indictment in desperation. Me? I'm going out of the country and AVOIDING CNN and FOX. Ill be back around July 4th. 

    This election process is becoming sickening. Later.

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    There will be NO VP announcement until the Convention. If Hillary starts to lose ground and Trump pulls even in swing states (Penn now tied, Georgia is going RED, but OHIO still BLUE as well as NY and NJ)then look for her team to continue to sway Bernie as the VP. It is good for her to have an elderly VP, not a younger energetic and ambitious type. Not even a billion dollars (which is what the Democrats will be investing in her) will save her from indictment. 

    So we have another month of reacting to Trump's comments, calling him "racists" and the right clamoring for charges and indictment in desperation. Me? I'm going out of the country and AVOIDING CNN and FOX. Ill be back around July 4th. 

    This election process is becoming sickening. Later.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2016 - 11:35 AM ET #3

    the market strongly disagrees. 
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    the market strongly disagrees. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2016 - 11:47 AM ET #4

    Hilary wins in a landslide w.o

    this election is already in the books.

    it should become clearer and clearer to the people who are not awake that trump is a puppet.
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    Hilary wins in a landslide w.o

    this election is already in the books.

    it should become clearer and clearer to the people who are not awake that trump is a puppet.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2016 - 1:00 PM ET #5

    Pearls to swine, yawn.
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    Pearls to swine, yawn.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2016 - 1:22 PM ET #6

    The only NWO puppet in this election is HRC. Trump  knows and despises the NWO. He is the only one who has the guts to speak out about the biggest False Flag in human history. 9/11. Took on the Bush dynasty in one of the debates about GW being the President on 9/11. Again. The only 'puppet' is HRC.

     

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    The only NWO puppet in this election is HRC. Trump  knows and despises the NWO. He is the only one who has the guts to speak out about the biggest False Flag in human history. 9/11. Took on the Bush dynasty in one of the debates about GW being the President on 9/11. Again. The only 'puppet' is HRC.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2016 - 1:24 PM ET #7

    I don't think it matters who Hillary or Trump picks for their VP.  Clinton will probably win with largest margin of victory in the history of our Presidential election.
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    I don't think it matters who Hillary or Trump picks for their VP.  Clinton will probably win with largest margin of victory in the history of our Presidential election.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2016 - 1:41 PM ET #8

    I'd rather see the reverse, I cant stand Clinton but it would be a very smart move if she were to choose him.

    I am not sure Sanders would accept the invite, what motivation would there be for him to be second fiddle to the obnoxious loud mouth and her cronies?
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    I'd rather see the reverse, I cant stand Clinton but it would be a very smart move if she were to choose him.

    I am not sure Sanders would accept the invite, what motivation would there be for him to be second fiddle to the obnoxious loud mouth and her cronies?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2016 - 6:37 PM ET #9

    https://electionbettingodds.com/VicePresident.html

    Sanders is currently the fifth-most-likely VP choice.  That is hardly "inevitable."
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    https://electionbettingodds.com/VicePresident.html

    Sanders is currently the fifth-most-likely VP choice.  That is hardly "inevitable."
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2016 - 11:08 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The only NWO puppet in this election is HRC. Trump  knows and despises the NWO. He is the only one who has the guts to speak out about the biggest False Flag in human history. 9/11. Took on the Bush dynasty in one of the debates about GW being the President on 9/11. Again. The only 'puppet' is HRC.





     lol you are telling me a person is not telling trump to give these awesome soundbites?


    any sane person wouldn't talk like trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The only NWO puppet in this election is HRC. Trump  knows and despises the NWO. He is the only one who has the guts to speak out about the biggest False Flag in human history. 9/11. Took on the Bush dynasty in one of the debates about GW being the President on 9/11. Again. The only 'puppet' is HRC.





     lol you are telling me a person is not telling trump to give these awesome soundbites?


    any sane person wouldn't talk like trump
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2016 - 3:44 PM ET #11

    It will be an interesting couple of weeks. Sanders wants Clinton to reverse her policies on fracking and job outsourcing, but is unable to do so (she is bought and sold), so I think this will be a no-go for the Clintons, and a huge disappointment, since he takes a huge chunk of progressive and independents with him if he goes, and I don't think he will be actively supporting "Secretary Clinton."

    The indictment process is very slow because of data recollection on 33,000 emails the FBI is collecting from the receivers (since the sender destroyed them), and the evidence is pretty bad for Hillary as it shows knowledge and planning to obstruct surveillance by the State Department of her emails--a main communication vehicle for her and her enormous staff. It is also how she dealt with her favorite pet project--the Clinton Foundation--raising funds and channeling them underhandedly. FBI being either very slow or they do not have the time and personnel. A decision is promised "before the Democratic Convention" to allow the Democratic Party an alternative plan of action and not disrupt democracy etc. This indictment is more serious than Hillary supporters understand, who usually dismiss it as "right wing propaganda"
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    It will be an interesting couple of weeks. Sanders wants Clinton to reverse her policies on fracking and job outsourcing, but is unable to do so (she is bought and sold), so I think this will be a no-go for the Clintons, and a huge disappointment, since he takes a huge chunk of progressive and independents with him if he goes, and I don't think he will be actively supporting "Secretary Clinton."

    The indictment process is very slow because of data recollection on 33,000 emails the FBI is collecting from the receivers (since the sender destroyed them), and the evidence is pretty bad for Hillary as it shows knowledge and planning to obstruct surveillance by the State Department of her emails--a main communication vehicle for her and her enormous staff. It is also how she dealt with her favorite pet project--the Clinton Foundation--raising funds and channeling them underhandedly. FBI being either very slow or they do not have the time and personnel. A decision is promised "before the Democratic Convention" to allow the Democratic Party an alternative plan of action and not disrupt democracy etc. This indictment is more serious than Hillary supporters understand, who usually dismiss it as "right wing propaganda"
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2016 - 3:47 PM ET #12

    As for me, I'm off to Europe for three weeks. Ill be in Paris and Madrid for two, then a week in Denmark on a farm. When I return, hopefully things are more settled. 

    Go Warriors!






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    As for me, I'm off to Europe for three weeks. Ill be in Paris and Madrid for two, then a week in Denmark on a farm. When I return, hopefully things are more settled. 

    Go Warriors!






     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The only NWO puppet in this election is HRC. Trump  knows and despises the NWO. He is the only one who has the guts to speak out about the biggest False Flag in human history. 9/11. Took on the Bush dynasty in one of the debates about GW being the President on 9/11. Again. The only 'puppet' is HRC.

     


    This guy gets it
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    The only NWO puppet in this election is HRC. Trump  knows and despises the NWO. He is the only one who has the guts to speak out about the biggest False Flag in human history. 9/11. Took on the Bush dynasty in one of the debates about GW being the President on 9/11. Again. The only 'puppet' is HRC.

     


    This guy gets it
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2016 - 5:45 PM ET #14

    Bernie will NEVER be on the HRC ticket... such a suggestion is ridiculous

    Bernie will not go along with what HRC is doing... and he knows it.  He just wants to create havoc for his "cause"

    He is loving the moment... but soon it will be gone
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    Bernie will NEVER be on the HRC ticket... such a suggestion is ridiculous

    Bernie will not go along with what HRC is doing... and he knows it.  He just wants to create havoc for his "cause"

    He is loving the moment... but soon it will be gone
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2016 - 5:47 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by mainman11111:




     lol you are telling me a person is not telling trump to give these awesome soundbites?


    any sane person wouldn't talk like trump

    Trump is as authentic as a POTUS candidate as you will ever see... truly a mans man.  He speaks his mind and does not care a bit.

    If you don't understand this you have not been paying attention.  Who would give Trump marching orders?  really answer that 
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    Quote Originally Posted by mainman11111:




     lol you are telling me a person is not telling trump to give these awesome soundbites?


    any sane person wouldn't talk like trump

    Trump is as authentic as a POTUS candidate as you will ever see... truly a mans man.  He speaks his mind and does not care a bit.

    If you don't understand this you have not been paying attention.  Who would give Trump marching orders?  really answer that 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by cave0707:

    I don't think it matters who Hillary or Trump picks for their VP.  

    Correct - it has been established that the VP choice is not nearly the factor that most seems to think it is.


    Clinton will probably win with largest margin of victory in the history of our Presidential election.

    Incorrect... reverse the names and you are on to something
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by cave0707:

    I don't think it matters who Hillary or Trump picks for their VP.  

    Correct - it has been established that the VP choice is not nearly the factor that most seems to think it is.


    Clinton will probably win with largest margin of victory in the history of our Presidential election.

    Incorrect... reverse the names and you are on to something
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:


    Trump is as authentic as a POTUS candidate as you will ever see... truly a mans man.  He speaks his mind and does not care a bit.

    If you don't understand this you have not been paying attention.  Who would give Trump marching orders?  really answer that 


     X 1,000,000


    Oh.
    My.
    God.


    You've lost your mind.  It's official.  Someone stop the fight, this guy needs serious mental help.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:


    Trump is as authentic as a POTUS candidate as you will ever see... truly a mans man.  He speaks his mind and does not care a bit.

    If you don't understand this you have not been paying attention.  Who would give Trump marching orders?  really answer that 


     X 1,000,000


    Oh.
    My.
    God.


    You've lost your mind.  It's official.  Someone stop the fight, this guy needs serious mental help.....
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2016 - 6:51 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:


    Trump is as authentic as a POTUS candidate as you will ever see...
    According to Politifact, the current score is that Trump lies 76% of the time.

    https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

    SportsFan9698, please explain to all of us what you think the meaning of "authentic" is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsFan9698:


    Trump is as authentic as a POTUS candidate as you will ever see...
    According to Politifact, the current score is that Trump lies 76% of the time.

    https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

    SportsFan9698, please explain to all of us what you think the meaning of "authentic" is.
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 10, 2016 - 6:52 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:

    As for me, I'm off to Europe for three weeks. Ill be in Paris and Madrid for two, then a week in Denmark on a farm. When I return, hopefully things are more settled.

    When you return, will you be in Japan or the United States?  If you do live in Japan, I am wondering what your U.S. voting status is.

    TIA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:

    As for me, I'm off to Europe for three weeks. Ill be in Paris and Madrid for two, then a week in Denmark on a farm. When I return, hopefully things are more settled.

    When you return, will you be in Japan or the United States?  If you do live in Japan, I am wondering what your U.S. voting status is.

    TIA.
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