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    2 Afghan refugees charged with child sex crimes

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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2021 - 6:54 AM ET #1

    The U.S. and coalition forces evacuated more than 110,000 civilians during the final weeks of August, according to the Pentagon, which took place as the Taliban overthrew the Western-backed Afghan government and retook control of the country.


    Nearly 60,000 Afghan evacuees have reportedly landed in the United States since Aug. 17.


    Can anyone explain to me why we let these people in when we can’t even care for poor veterans and children born here? 

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    The U.S. and coalition forces evacuated more than 110,000 civilians during the final weeks of August, according to the Pentagon, which took place as the Taliban overthrew the Western-backed Afghan government and retook control of the country.


    Nearly 60,000 Afghan evacuees have reportedly landed in the United States since Aug. 17.


    Can anyone explain to me why we let these people in when we can’t even care for poor veterans and children born here? 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2021 - 7:02 AM ET #2

    Should we improve our schools that are in disrepair or should we bring in and care for Afghan men? 

    Should we improve the homeless shelters and services for Veterans or should we bring in and care for Afghan men? 

    Should we make inner cities safer for our children or should we bring in and care for Afghan men? 

    Should we buy computers for our schools so our underprivileged kids will have a chance in the modern world or should we bring in and care for Afghan men? 

    Does anyone know how many tax dollars are being spent on the 110,000 Afghans? 

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    Should we improve our schools that are in disrepair or should we bring in and care for Afghan men? 

    Should we improve the homeless shelters and services for Veterans or should we bring in and care for Afghan men? 

    Should we make inner cities safer for our children or should we bring in and care for Afghan men? 

    Should we buy computers for our schools so our underprivileged kids will have a chance in the modern world or should we bring in and care for Afghan men? 

    Does anyone know how many tax dollars are being spent on the 110,000 Afghans? 

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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2021 - 7:10 AM ET #3

    Do they speak English? 

    What the hell are we going to do with a 35 year old male, from Afghanistan, with no education? 

    1. He probably hates the US (and possibly rightfully so) 

    2. We have to house, feed, and care for him medically 

    3. We have to teach him English 

    4. We have to teach him basic life skills 

    5. We have to teach him a skill that he can use to make money 

    It’s a bad investment even if they’re not one of the pedophiles Joe Biden is bringing here. I’d much rather see the investment go to an American born kid. 

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    Do they speak English? 

    What the hell are we going to do with a 35 year old male, from Afghanistan, with no education? 

    1. He probably hates the US (and possibly rightfully so) 

    2. We have to house, feed, and care for him medically 

    3. We have to teach him English 

    4. We have to teach him basic life skills 

    5. We have to teach him a skill that he can use to make money 

    It’s a bad investment even if they’re not one of the pedophiles Joe Biden is bringing here. I’d much rather see the investment go to an American born kid. 

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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2021 - 7:17 AM ET #4

    Google ‘Bacha Bazi’ 

     

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    Google ‘Bacha Bazi’ 

     

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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2021 - 7:26 AM ET #5

    During the Afghan Civil War (1996–2001), bacha bazi carried the death penalty under Taliban law. Under the post-Taliban government, the practice of dancing boys was illegal under Afghan law, but the laws were seldom enforced against powerful offenders and police had reportedly been complicit in related crimes.

    A controversy arose after allegations surfaced that U.S. government forces in Afghanistan after the invasion of the country deliberately ignored bacha bazi. The U.S. military responded by claiming the abuse was largely the responsibility of the "local Afghan government".

    Bacha bazi is a centuries-old practice. One of the original factors mobilizing the rise of the Taliban was their opposition to the practice. After the Taliban came to power in 1996, bacha bazi was banned. The Taliban considered it incompatible with Sharia law.

    In 2014, Suraya Subhrang, child rights commissioner at the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission, stated that the areas practicing bacha bazi had increased.

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    During the Afghan Civil War (1996–2001), bacha bazi carried the death penalty under Taliban law. Under the post-Taliban government, the practice of dancing boys was illegal under Afghan law, but the laws were seldom enforced against powerful offenders and police had reportedly been complicit in related crimes.

    A controversy arose after allegations surfaced that U.S. government forces in Afghanistan after the invasion of the country deliberately ignored bacha bazi. The U.S. military responded by claiming the abuse was largely the responsibility of the "local Afghan government".

    Bacha bazi is a centuries-old practice. One of the original factors mobilizing the rise of the Taliban was their opposition to the practice. After the Taliban came to power in 1996, bacha bazi was banned. The Taliban considered it incompatible with Sharia law.

    In 2014, Suraya Subhrang, child rights commissioner at the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission, stated that the areas practicing bacha bazi had increased.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2021 - 7:44 AM ET #6

    The pedophiles have a real reason to come to Joe Biden USA because the Taliban will chop their balls off and light them on fire. 

    Im curious how many of the 110,000 Afghans coming here are pedophiles? 

    1% of 110,000 is 1,100 

     

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    The pedophiles have a real reason to come to Joe Biden USA because the Taliban will chop their balls off and light them on fire. 

    Im curious how many of the 110,000 Afghans coming here are pedophiles? 

    1% of 110,000 is 1,100 

     

    an_eek2

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The pedophiles have a real reason to come to Joe Biden USA because the Taliban will chop their balls off and light them on fire. Im curious how many of the 110,000 Afghans coming here are pedophiles?  1% of 110,000 is 1,100

     

    At least Matt Gaetz will have some friends now

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The pedophiles have a real reason to come to Joe Biden USA because the Taliban will chop their balls off and light them on fire. Im curious how many of the 110,000 Afghans coming here are pedophiles?  1% of 110,000 is 1,100

     

    At least Matt Gaetz will have some friends now

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The pedophiles have a real reason to come to Joe Biden USA because the Taliban will chop their balls off and light them on fire. Im curious how many of the 110,000 Afghans coming here are pedophiles?  1% of 110,000 is 1,100   At least Matt Gaetz will have some friends now

    The deflection on this site, from both sides, is maddening. I am mortified by this. And is definitely cause for concern. And all you have to say on the subject is, "At least Matt Gaetz will have some friends now."?

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The pedophiles have a real reason to come to Joe Biden USA because the Taliban will chop their balls off and light them on fire. Im curious how many of the 110,000 Afghans coming here are pedophiles?  1% of 110,000 is 1,100   At least Matt Gaetz will have some friends now

    The deflection on this site, from both sides, is maddening. I am mortified by this. And is definitely cause for concern. And all you have to say on the subject is, "At least Matt Gaetz will have some friends now."?

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2021 - 2:06 PM ET #9

    We have Cubanos in our country for decades that still haven't learned the language. We have Haitians fleeing their country & arriving at our shores in the same category.

    What makes the Afghans any different? Don't we have pedophiles in the Haitian & Cuban communities?

    My take is we should cut down all illegal immigration & process those who have waited legally for years to become citizens of our country..

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    We have Cubanos in our country for decades that still haven't learned the language. We have Haitians fleeing their country & arriving at our shores in the same category.

    What makes the Afghans any different? Don't we have pedophiles in the Haitian & Cuban communities?

    My take is we should cut down all illegal immigration & process those who have waited legally for years to become citizens of our country..

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2021 - 2:48 PM ET #10

    @Midnight1

     There are pedophiles in every group. There are homegrown pedophiles that walk around with impunity. I think the point he was making is that, in general, taking in refugees when our own shit is in disarray is probably a mistake. And amongst this particular group of refugees, there exist cultural child sex abuse. I had never heard of this stuff but just what I read on Wikipedia is pretty unsettling. These are the things that if one saw on a Vice News story or something, one would be outraged but to hear it from tox on covers it's swept under the rug with a Matt Gaetz quip. Matt Gaetz is a creep but this is on another level. And these are the people we are bringing in, because this shit definitely didn't fly amongst the Taliban. It was amongst our allies. This political back and forth has gotten so ridiculous that subjects like child sex abuse are met with flippant retorts.

    Don't get me wrong, I believe in amnesty for those who aid our foreign pursuits. And it's unfair to take this and extrapolate, "Well, we're bringing in a bunch of pedophiles" but I would have no problem believing there is probably a pretty high rate amongst that group, just because it's culturally based.

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     There are pedophiles in every group. There are homegrown pedophiles that walk around with impunity. I think the point he was making is that, in general, taking in refugees when our own shit is in disarray is probably a mistake. And amongst this particular group of refugees, there exist cultural child sex abuse. I had never heard of this stuff but just what I read on Wikipedia is pretty unsettling. These are the things that if one saw on a Vice News story or something, one would be outraged but to hear it from tox on covers it's swept under the rug with a Matt Gaetz quip. Matt Gaetz is a creep but this is on another level. And these are the people we are bringing in, because this shit definitely didn't fly amongst the Taliban. It was amongst our allies. This political back and forth has gotten so ridiculous that subjects like child sex abuse are met with flippant retorts.

    Don't get me wrong, I believe in amnesty for those who aid our foreign pursuits. And it's unfair to take this and extrapolate, "Well, we're bringing in a bunch of pedophiles" but I would have no problem believing there is probably a pretty high rate amongst that group, just because it's culturally based.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The pedophiles have a real reason to come to Joe Biden USA because the Taliban will chop their balls off and light them on fire. Im curious how many of the 110,000 Afghans coming here are pedophiles?  1% of 110,000 is 1,100   At least Matt Gaetz will have some friends now The deflection on this site, from both sides, is maddening. I am mortified by this. And is definitely cause for concern. And all you have to say on the subject is, "At least Matt Gaetz will have some friends now."?

     

    Basically yes.  You know as well as I do that Detox just posts to get a cheap 'gotcha' or to push his predetermined agenda.  There is no point in engaging with someone who is that stubborn.  He talked to himself for nearly an hour right after he woke up (probably still in bed) waiting for someone to take his bait.  That 'style' is more maddening than anything.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The pedophiles have a real reason to come to Joe Biden USA because the Taliban will chop their balls off and light them on fire. Im curious how many of the 110,000 Afghans coming here are pedophiles?  1% of 110,000 is 1,100   At least Matt Gaetz will have some friends now The deflection on this site, from both sides, is maddening. I am mortified by this. And is definitely cause for concern. And all you have to say on the subject is, "At least Matt Gaetz will have some friends now."?

     

    Basically yes.  You know as well as I do that Detox just posts to get a cheap 'gotcha' or to push his predetermined agenda.  There is no point in engaging with someone who is that stubborn.  He talked to himself for nearly an hour right after he woke up (probably still in bed) waiting for someone to take his bait.  That 'style' is more maddening than anything.  

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