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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2021 - 9:33 PM ET #151

    @kcblitzkrieg

     To speak of roadmaps, here's something else that we know. There's no clear path that can be established for this thing, so to speak. Normally, when a zoonotic virus infects a human population, and certainly when there is an outbreak, you can trace a geographical route. A path, as in, "Ok, so there's evidence that these farmers out in the countryside came down with it. And it moved along way to these guys, hit these guys, made it to this wet market in a major city (they love talking about the wet markets), and from there is spread to the larger population et al. They can't seem to follow this thing in the same way. It's as if it was air dropped right in the middle of Wuhan. The same Wuhan with the lab with the largest collection of bat coronaviruses in the world where the Chinese military was working on weaponizing... We don't know they were working to weaponize coronaviruses per se. What we do know is that they were working on making them more transmissible and more infectuous. We know the Chinese military was involved. And we know that they absolutely won't let anyone in that place to poke around. Draw you're own conclusions. I love nerding out of viruses. Response to vaccines will make them mutate. Response to the just a large number of hosts, different biologies, different immune systems, will make them mutate. However, i'll be John Brown if it doesn't seem as if they are tweaking this thing. Perfecting it.

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     To speak of roadmaps, here's something else that we know. There's no clear path that can be established for this thing, so to speak. Normally, when a zoonotic virus infects a human population, and certainly when there is an outbreak, you can trace a geographical route. A path, as in, "Ok, so there's evidence that these farmers out in the countryside came down with it. And it moved along way to these guys, hit these guys, made it to this wet market in a major city (they love talking about the wet markets), and from there is spread to the larger population et al. They can't seem to follow this thing in the same way. It's as if it was air dropped right in the middle of Wuhan. The same Wuhan with the lab with the largest collection of bat coronaviruses in the world where the Chinese military was working on weaponizing... We don't know they were working to weaponize coronaviruses per se. What we do know is that they were working on making them more transmissible and more infectuous. We know the Chinese military was involved. And we know that they absolutely won't let anyone in that place to poke around. Draw you're own conclusions. I love nerding out of viruses. Response to vaccines will make them mutate. Response to the just a large number of hosts, different biologies, different immune systems, will make them mutate. However, i'll be John Brown if it doesn't seem as if they are tweaking this thing. Perfecting it.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2021 - 9:38 PM ET #152

    @lancer89074

     All vaccines have side effects ...You can gamble with delta and coming variants ff you want ...But it just sounds insane to me ..Would you have denied the other mandatory vaccines ??

    I keep reading social media posts of people who died of Covid say  exactly what you are ..." I have a good immune system " ...I'll stop back with some names , reading their tweets is guy wrenching ...Their deaths were preventable with the vaccine..

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     All vaccines have side effects ...You can gamble with delta and coming variants ff you want ...But it just sounds insane to me ..Would you have denied the other mandatory vaccines ??

    I keep reading social media posts of people who died of Covid say  exactly what you are ..." I have a good immune system " ...I'll stop back with some names , reading their tweets is guy wrenching ...Their deaths were preventable with the vaccine..

     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2021 - 9:47 PM ET #153

    Also, the ability of SARS-Cov2 to infect people asymptomatically, was a game changer. It is what seperated it from similar strains like SARS-CoV1 and such, which are more deadly, it's what seperates this strain and makes it a world beater. When a person contracted SARS-CoV1, they tended to become gravely ill, or die. They weren't moving about and spreading. This is why, while more deadly, it was a flash in the pan. This is the thing about viruses, and i'm no expert but have always found viruses, bacteria, parasites, etc, quite fascinating. They are like an animal, a plant, any living being in that they don't simply want to survive. They want to thrive. And they will mutate, evolve, to aid in their success. It is more than possible, plausible, that a corona virus like SARS-CoV1 could evolve into a strain like SARS-CoV2 in order to increase it's reproduction. Nature is full of such occurences of evolution but this whole thing stinks and i'm convinced that the reason they won't allow inspection of the lab is because they continue to work on tweaking the recipe. I think the Delta variant is one such lab tweak. Could it be a natural mutation? Absolutely. I just have strong doubt that it was.

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    Also, the ability of SARS-Cov2 to infect people asymptomatically, was a game changer. It is what seperated it from similar strains like SARS-CoV1 and such, which are more deadly, it's what seperates this strain and makes it a world beater. When a person contracted SARS-CoV1, they tended to become gravely ill, or die. They weren't moving about and spreading. This is why, while more deadly, it was a flash in the pan. This is the thing about viruses, and i'm no expert but have always found viruses, bacteria, parasites, etc, quite fascinating. They are like an animal, a plant, any living being in that they don't simply want to survive. They want to thrive. And they will mutate, evolve, to aid in their success. It is more than possible, plausible, that a corona virus like SARS-CoV1 could evolve into a strain like SARS-CoV2 in order to increase it's reproduction. Nature is full of such occurences of evolution but this whole thing stinks and i'm convinced that the reason they won't allow inspection of the lab is because they continue to work on tweaking the recipe. I think the Delta variant is one such lab tweak. Could it be a natural mutation? Absolutely. I just have strong doubt that it was.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2021 - 9:58 PM ET #154

    So, who the hell is supposedly self appointed and in charge of flagging misinformation? If it doesn't fit the narrative, just silence and cancel them. Seems to be the way. What a absolute joke. It's a complete one way street

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    So, who the hell is supposedly self appointed and in charge of flagging misinformation? If it doesn't fit the narrative, just silence and cancel them. Seems to be the way. What a absolute joke. It's a complete one way street

     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2021 - 10:13 PM ET #155

    @Doubleup4life

    Have you ever given any thought to the long term effects of moderna or pfizer shots which are not really vaccines at all???  I assume that you were given one of those? My nephew who is a physician assistant tells me that the Johnson and Johnson one is a true vaccine. Not interested in that one either. 

    When you were handed the slip of paper which stated that the supposed vaccines were not FDA approved did it give you any pause? Again, how about long term effects? 

    This is not like the Jonas Salk vaccine for polio which nobody had to force on the public, people the world over are leery of this one as they should be. YOU have zero idea of what you have done to your body...why are you so trusting of governments and fake Fauci science. 

    Sweden has gained herd immunity and zero deaths from covid without the use of masks or lock-downs...not sure of how many were vaccinated (doubt that it was anywhere near a majority) but they did shutdown the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine in March because of bad side effects and many other European countries banned it also at least temporarily. 

    Just because you haven't heard of something doesn't make it a conspiracy theory...the internet is teeming with stories of people who died or who have had very bad side effects from the vaccines that have damaged them permanently. No thanks...
    https://thebluestateconservative.com/2021/07/25/zero-covid-deaths-swedens-anti-lockdown-strategy-has-worked/?fbclid=IwAR1rut2okg15w6K8p9vCgEICowmR_SB92BJ2ugxEDfZGruebWdJc_ftUJvI

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    Have you ever given any thought to the long term effects of moderna or pfizer shots which are not really vaccines at all???  I assume that you were given one of those? My nephew who is a physician assistant tells me that the Johnson and Johnson one is a true vaccine. Not interested in that one either. 

    When you were handed the slip of paper which stated that the supposed vaccines were not FDA approved did it give you any pause? Again, how about long term effects? 

    This is not like the Jonas Salk vaccine for polio which nobody had to force on the public, people the world over are leery of this one as they should be. YOU have zero idea of what you have done to your body...why are you so trusting of governments and fake Fauci science. 

    Sweden has gained herd immunity and zero deaths from covid without the use of masks or lock-downs...not sure of how many were vaccinated (doubt that it was anywhere near a majority) but they did shutdown the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine in March because of bad side effects and many other European countries banned it also at least temporarily. 

    Just because you haven't heard of something doesn't make it a conspiracy theory...the internet is teeming with stories of people who died or who have had very bad side effects from the vaccines that have damaged them permanently. No thanks...
    https://thebluestateconservative.com/2021/07/25/zero-covid-deaths-swedens-anti-lockdown-strategy-has-worked/?fbclid=IwAR1rut2okg15w6K8p9vCgEICowmR_SB92BJ2ugxEDfZGruebWdJc_ftUJvI

     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2021 - 10:20 PM ET #156

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     It goes both ways on social media ..Have a few FB friends who post way LEFT lunacy 20 times a day . All their posts get flagged and removed ...They've burned though username after username spreading the dumbest conspiracies 

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     It goes both ways on social media ..Have a few FB friends who post way LEFT lunacy 20 times a day . All their posts get flagged and removed ...They've burned though username after username spreading the dumbest conspiracies 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2021 - 10:28 PM ET #157

     

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     People were touting Brazil laat year as doing well with Covid,  then they got crushed ...

    I'd have to read more about Sweden , but I also remember them have issues for 5+ months ....Would imagine their cities are nowhere near as densely populated as ours...

    My concerns are for the unvaccinated,  I've already lost an uncle , friend and 2 former awesome coworkers....Only one of them had underlying health issues ( asthma) ...The relative who needs a kidney transplant was hard core anti vax bc it didnt impact the rural part of oklahoma where she lives ...

    I'd gladly get a moderna booster if it was deemed neccessary while cases were soaring....

    I'm not here to argue with you Brother 

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     People were touting Brazil laat year as doing well with Covid,  then they got crushed ...

    I'd have to read more about Sweden , but I also remember them have issues for 5+ months ....Would imagine their cities are nowhere near as densely populated as ours...

    My concerns are for the unvaccinated,  I've already lost an uncle , friend and 2 former awesome coworkers....Only one of them had underlying health issues ( asthma) ...The relative who needs a kidney transplant was hard core anti vax bc it didnt impact the rural part of oklahoma where she lives ...

    I'd gladly get a moderna booster if it was deemed neccessary while cases were soaring....

    I'm not here to argue with you Brother 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2021 - 10:29 PM ET #158

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     Lol fuck how it effects betting.

    This going to destroy all our lives. I mean govt us and will. The so called virus isn't a problem

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     Lol fuck how it effects betting.

    This going to destroy all our lives. I mean govt us and will. The so called virus isn't a problem

     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2021 - 10:32 PM ET #159

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    @lancer89074  All vaccines have side effects ...You can gamble with delta and coming variants ff you want ...But it just sounds insane to me ..Would you have denied the other mandatory vaccines ?? I keep reading social media posts of people who died of Covid say  exactly what you are ..." I have a good immune system " ...I'll stop back with some names , reading their tweets is guy wrenching ...Their deaths were preventable with the vaccine..
     

    What a fucking stupid comment . This was ment to destroy your health. The vac is the virus.

    They are telling you they can force you to take it. Wake the fuck up

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    @lancer89074  All vaccines have side effects ...You can gamble with delta and coming variants ff you want ...But it just sounds insane to me ..Would you have denied the other mandatory vaccines ?? I keep reading social media posts of people who died of Covid say  exactly what you are ..." I have a good immune system " ...I'll stop back with some names , reading their tweets is guy wrenching ...Their deaths were preventable with the vaccine..
     

    What a fucking stupid comment . This was ment to destroy your health. The vac is the virus.

    They are telling you they can force you to take it. Wake the fuck up

     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2021 - 10:34 PM ET #160

    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    unless there's an outbreak, not sure it matters if there is, wait until close to gametime, unless you want to gamble or guess on who's out
     

    There will be an outbreak. It will be fake, staged.

    To force people to get vac. Fear. Propaganda

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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    unless there's an outbreak, not sure it matters if there is, wait until close to gametime, unless you want to gamble or guess on who's out
     

    There will be an outbreak. It will be fake, staged.

    To force people to get vac. Fear. Propaganda

     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2021 - 10:41 PM ET #161

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    @lancer89074  People were touting Brazil laat year as doing well with Covid,  then they got crushed ... I'd have to read more about Sweden , but I also remember them have issues for 5+ months ....Would imagine their cities are nowhere near by as densely populated as ours... My concerns are for the unvaccinated,  I've already lost an uncle , friend and 2 former awesome coworkers....Only one of them had underlying health issues ( asthma) ...The relative who needs a kidney transplant was hard core anti vax bc it didnt impact the rural part of oklahoma where she lives ... I'd gladly get a moderna booster if it was deemed neccessary while cases were soaring.... I'm not here to argue with you Brother
     

    You're a fake account. Concerned for the unvacinated lolol.

    You know why they remain unvacd..? Because nothing is happening to them .

     

    You didn't lose anyone to covid. People died of other things and they called it covid.

    I'm not saying some respiratory thing doesn't exist. The virus isn't the problem. It's people like you hiding under your bed like govt told you to. So they can take more of your freedom and liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    @lancer89074  People were touting Brazil laat year as doing well with Covid,  then they got crushed ... I'd have to read more about Sweden , but I also remember them have issues for 5+ months ....Would imagine their cities are nowhere near by as densely populated as ours... My concerns are for the unvaccinated,  I've already lost an uncle , friend and 2 former awesome coworkers....Only one of them had underlying health issues ( asthma) ...The relative who needs a kidney transplant was hard core anti vax bc it didnt impact the rural part of oklahoma where she lives ... I'd gladly get a moderna booster if it was deemed neccessary while cases were soaring.... I'm not here to argue with you Brother
     

    You're a fake account. Concerned for the unvacinated lolol.

    You know why they remain unvacd..? Because nothing is happening to them .

     

    You didn't lose anyone to covid. People died of other things and they called it covid.

    I'm not saying some respiratory thing doesn't exist. The virus isn't the problem. It's people like you hiding under your bed like govt told you to. So they can take more of your freedom and liberty.

     
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    I hear ya Double. Im just surrounded by more Right people for sure. Im not as prone to see Left information being censored

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    I hear ya Double. Im just surrounded by more Right people for sure. Im not as prone to see Left information being censored

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: @lancer89074  People were touting Brazil laat year as doing well with Covid,  then they got crushed ... I'd have to read more about Sweden , but I also remember them have issues for 5+ months ....Would imagine their cities are nowhere near by as densely populated as ours... My concerns are for the unvaccinated,  I've already lost an uncle , friend and 2 former awesome coworkers....Only one of them had underlying health issues ( asthma) ...The relative who needs a kidney transplant was hard core anti vax bc it didnt impact the rural part of oklahoma where she lives ... I'd gladly get a moderna booster if it was deemed neccessary while cases were soaring.... I'm not here to argue with you Brother  You're a fake account. Concerned for the unvacinated lolol. You know why they remain unvacd..? Because nothing is happening to them .   You didn't lose anyone to covid. People died of other things and they called it covid. I'm not saying some respiratory thing doesn't exist. The virus isn't the problem. It's people like you hiding under your bed like govt told you to. So they can take more of your freedom and liberty.

     

    These POS wack job being Anti Vax should be enough to convince even Jenny Macarthy ( notorious anti vaxxer) to get vaccinated...

    Over his entire existence on COVERS Chic Cardinals has NEVER been correct !!!!   NOT ONCE !!! an_roll_laugh

    ( Go look through all of his  posts to confirm ) ...

    NOT  even one of his fixes, prognosticators,  conspiracies,  or bets has ever come to fruition/won /happened !!! 

    I'd be deeply concerned if any of my beliefs/opinions /medical decisions agreed with his lunacy paint_help

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: @lancer89074  People were touting Brazil laat year as doing well with Covid,  then they got crushed ... I'd have to read more about Sweden , but I also remember them have issues for 5+ months ....Would imagine their cities are nowhere near by as densely populated as ours... My concerns are for the unvaccinated,  I've already lost an uncle , friend and 2 former awesome coworkers....Only one of them had underlying health issues ( asthma) ...The relative who needs a kidney transplant was hard core anti vax bc it didnt impact the rural part of oklahoma where she lives ... I'd gladly get a moderna booster if it was deemed neccessary while cases were soaring.... I'm not here to argue with you Brother  You're a fake account. Concerned for the unvacinated lolol. You know why they remain unvacd..? Because nothing is happening to them .   You didn't lose anyone to covid. People died of other things and they called it covid. I'm not saying some respiratory thing doesn't exist. The virus isn't the problem. It's people like you hiding under your bed like govt told you to. So they can take more of your freedom and liberty.

     

    These POS wack job being Anti Vax should be enough to convince even Jenny Macarthy ( notorious anti vaxxer) to get vaccinated...

    Over his entire existence on COVERS Chic Cardinals has NEVER been correct !!!!   NOT ONCE !!! an_roll_laugh

    ( Go look through all of his  posts to confirm ) ...

    NOT  even one of his fixes, prognosticators,  conspiracies,  or bets has ever come to fruition/won /happened !!! 

    I'd be deeply concerned if any of my beliefs/opinions /medical decisions agreed with his lunacy paint_help

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SourSausage:

    I hear ya Double. Im just surrounded by more Right people for sure. Im not as prone to see Left information being censored

    Have one FB buddy who believes our dictator governor Cuomo is a angel who was sent down from HEAVEN to save NY .an_roll_laugh

    He almost spontaneously combustedan_speechless when it was revealed Cuomo killed all those people in nursing homes and was a creepy sexual predator while in office....Posts lie after lie almost 24/7 about Trump and the GOP ...All of his posts are flagged , dude has to be on an extremist CIA watch list an_timeout

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    I hear ya Double. Im just surrounded by more Right people for sure. Im not as prone to see Left information being censored

    Have one FB buddy who believes our dictator governor Cuomo is a angel who was sent down from HEAVEN to save NY .an_roll_laugh

    He almost spontaneously combustedan_speechless when it was revealed Cuomo killed all those people in nursing homes and was a creepy sexual predator while in office....Posts lie after lie almost 24/7 about Trump and the GOP ...All of his posts are flagged , dude has to be on an extremist CIA watch list an_timeout

     
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     Yeah myself.

    I wasnt wearing a mask for a while, i put one on and in maybe 5 minutes snot coming out breating issues.

    We as humans are made to breathe freah air, not our own air.

    We should ban smoking too.  For all the liberals who complain about covud deathes, many multiples of deaths occur every year because of cigarette smoking.  Yet none of these liberals talk about it.  Banning cigarettes is 100% doable.  Preventing covid is not.

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     Yeah myself.

    I wasnt wearing a mask for a while, i put one on and in maybe 5 minutes snot coming out breating issues.

    We as humans are made to breathe freah air, not our own air.

    We should ban smoking too.  For all the liberals who complain about covud deathes, many multiples of deaths occur every year because of cigarette smoking.  Yet none of these liberals talk about it.  Banning cigarettes is 100% doable.  Preventing covid is not.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    @DoubleUp4Life  Yeah myself. I wasnt wearing a mask for a while, i put one on and in maybe 5 minutes snot coming out breating issues. We as humans are made to breathe freah air, not our own air. We should ban smoking too.  For all the liberals who complain about covud deathes, many multiples of deaths occur every year because of cigarette smoking.  Yet none of these liberals talk about it.  Banning cigarettes is 100% doable.  Preventing covid is not.

    Good luck banning cigs ..now you're talking about stopping the mega rich from making money off of killing people...

    Both parties have put restrictions on cigs , but they'll be selling cancer sticks long after we're gone ..

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    @DoubleUp4Life  Yeah myself. I wasnt wearing a mask for a while, i put one on and in maybe 5 minutes snot coming out breating issues. We as humans are made to breathe freah air, not our own air. We should ban smoking too.  For all the liberals who complain about covud deathes, many multiples of deaths occur every year because of cigarette smoking.  Yet none of these liberals talk about it.  Banning cigarettes is 100% doable.  Preventing covid is not.

    Good luck banning cigs ..now you're talking about stopping the mega rich from making money off of killing people...

    Both parties have put restrictions on cigs , but they'll be selling cancer sticks long after we're gone ..

     
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    @Doubleup4lifeHave you ever given any thought to the long term effects of moderna or pfizer shots which are not really vaccines at all???  I assume that you were given one of those? My nephew who is a physician assistant tells me that the Johnson and Johnson one is a true vaccine. Not interested in that one either. When you were handed the slip of paper which stated that the supposed vaccines were not FDA approved did it give you any pause? Again, how about long term effects? This is not like the Jonas Salk vaccine for polio which nobody had to force on the public, people the world over are leery of this one as they should be. YOU have zero idea of what you have done to your body...why are you so trusting of governments and fake Fauci science. Sweden has gained herd immunity and zero deaths from covid without the use of masks or lock-downs...not sure of how many were vaccinated (doubt that it was anywhere near a majority) but they did shutdown the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine in March because of bad side effects and many other European countries banned it also at least temporarily. Just because you haven't heard of something doesn't make it a conspiracy theory...the internet is teeming with stories of people who died or who have had very bad side effects from the vaccines that have damaged them permanently. No thanks...https://thebluestateconservative.com/2021/07/25/zero-covid-deaths-swedens-anti-lockdown-strategy-has-worked/?fbclid=IwAR1rut2okg15w6K8p9vCgEICowmR_SB92BJ2ugxEDfZGruebWdJc_ftUJvI

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    What Kool-Aid drink did you talk brother.

    1. There are no long term effects from vaccines, simply because we haven't gotten to "long term". LOL. We do know of permanent effects from getting Covid virus. Agree?

    2. Vaccine was emergency approved because of the pandemic. If I was a gambler, LOL, I would bet you that the Moderna and Pfizer vaccine WILL be approved by FDA. Want to bet?  Never got that slip of paper you are talking about.  My proof of vaccination says nothing about "not FDA approved".  Are you making this stuff up?

    3. Read your history on the Polio vaccine. Lots of resistance.

    4. Here are my thoughts. I say "thin the herd". Let the ignorant die from not getting the vaccine. Then there will be only smart people on Earth. There are many videos of anti Covid vaccine people in hospital beds saying "I made a mistake, give me the vaccine".  Sorry brother, it's too late.

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    @Doubleup4lifeHave you ever given any thought to the long term effects of moderna or pfizer shots which are not really vaccines at all???  I assume that you were given one of those? My nephew who is a physician assistant tells me that the Johnson and Johnson one is a true vaccine. Not interested in that one either. When you were handed the slip of paper which stated that the supposed vaccines were not FDA approved did it give you any pause? Again, how about long term effects? This is not like the Jonas Salk vaccine for polio which nobody had to force on the public, people the world over are leery of this one as they should be. YOU have zero idea of what you have done to your body...why are you so trusting of governments and fake Fauci science. Sweden has gained herd immunity and zero deaths from covid without the use of masks or lock-downs...not sure of how many were vaccinated (doubt that it was anywhere near a majority) but they did shutdown the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine in March because of bad side effects and many other European countries banned it also at least temporarily. Just because you haven't heard of something doesn't make it a conspiracy theory...the internet is teeming with stories of people who died or who have had very bad side effects from the vaccines that have damaged them permanently. No thanks...https://thebluestateconservative.com/2021/07/25/zero-covid-deaths-swedens-anti-lockdown-strategy-has-worked/?fbclid=IwAR1rut2okg15w6K8p9vCgEICowmR_SB92BJ2ugxEDfZGruebWdJc_ftUJvI

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    What Kool-Aid drink did you talk brother.

    1. There are no long term effects from vaccines, simply because we haven't gotten to "long term". LOL. We do know of permanent effects from getting Covid virus. Agree?

    2. Vaccine was emergency approved because of the pandemic. If I was a gambler, LOL, I would bet you that the Moderna and Pfizer vaccine WILL be approved by FDA. Want to bet?  Never got that slip of paper you are talking about.  My proof of vaccination says nothing about "not FDA approved".  Are you making this stuff up?

    3. Read your history on the Polio vaccine. Lots of resistance.

    4. Here are my thoughts. I say "thin the herd". Let the ignorant die from not getting the vaccine. Then there will be only smart people on Earth. There are many videos of anti Covid vaccine people in hospital beds saying "I made a mistake, give me the vaccine".  Sorry brother, it's too late.

     
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     There is NO reason to have cigarettes around.

    Alcohol you can have fun.  It releases cortisol from the body.

    Since when do you have fun smoking a cigarette.  It has thousands of toxic chemicals-many of them cancerous-yet people still smoke.  And politicians do NOTHING about it. 

    Where are these save-the-earth universal health care liberals with masks and cigarette butts all over the landfills, in creeks and sewers.

    That's why politicians are fos my man.  We need a self-anointed guy like Gregg Popovich who seems to know everything to run the country. an_roll_laugh

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     There is NO reason to have cigarettes around.

    Alcohol you can have fun.  It releases cortisol from the body.

    Since when do you have fun smoking a cigarette.  It has thousands of toxic chemicals-many of them cancerous-yet people still smoke.  And politicians do NOTHING about it. 

    Where are these save-the-earth universal health care liberals with masks and cigarette butts all over the landfills, in creeks and sewers.

    That's why politicians are fos my man.  We need a self-anointed guy like Gregg Popovich who seems to know everything to run the country. an_roll_laugh

     
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     Pop is hilarious...

    Love when they ask him dumb questions. 

    ( So coach why are you down by 5 at the half ??  Pop : Because they scored 5 more than we did ) 

    So what do you need to do in the 2nd half ?? Score 6 more than them ...Stares crazy at camera ..

     

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     Pop is hilarious...

    Love when they ask him dumb questions. 

    ( So coach why are you down by 5 at the half ??  Pop : Because they scored 5 more than we did ) 

    So what do you need to do in the 2nd half ?? Score 6 more than them ...Stares crazy at camera ..

     

     
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     can you imagine being some old dude with white hair being paid $11 million a year to coach Spurs basketball, get paid to coach USA basketball, tell the country how it should be run, and berate reporters for asking questions not worthy of your attention lol

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     can you imagine being some old dude with white hair being paid $11 million a year to coach Spurs basketball, get paid to coach USA basketball, tell the country how it should be run, and berate reporters for asking questions not worthy of your attention lol

     
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    Do you know how many deaths and illnesses from covid that I personally know about which includes two countries? A big fat zero...I know of some people who tested positive at their workplace but who had no symptoms. Of course that test delivers a lot of false positives so who is to say that their results were accurate? 

    People that I know including family don't know anyone personally who died from covid either...now some have heard anecdotal 'stories' about deaths but they did not know these supposed victims personally so I tend to discount those but they could be true or just fabrications. 

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    Do you know how many deaths and illnesses from covid that I personally know about which includes two countries? A big fat zero...I know of some people who tested positive at their workplace but who had no symptoms. Of course that test delivers a lot of false positives so who is to say that their results were accurate? 

    People that I know including family don't know anyone personally who died from covid either...now some have heard anecdotal 'stories' about deaths but they did not know these supposed victims personally so I tend to discount those but they could be true or just fabrications. 

     
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    When I was a kid, my Cub Scout troop was disbanded because the den mother died of polio.  I think she should have gotten the vaccine.

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     Damn, bro, you're obsessed with Pop.

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     Damn, bro, you're obsessed with Pop.

     
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    The polio vaccines early on caused a lot of people to become infected with polio...agreed but the Salk and Sabin polio vaccines proved to be more effective with a lot less problems than the earlier ones. 

    In 1976 more than 40 million Americans -- almost 25% of the population -- received the swine flu vaccine before the program was halted in December after 10 weeks. More than 500 people are thought to have developed Guillain-Barre syndrome after receiving the vaccine; thousands filed lawsuits against the federal government and won a great deal of money... 25 or 32 died depending on who you believe. 

    From 1980 onwards, vaccine makers can no longer be sued in court and this was the last time that a vaccine was fast tracked by the government til now. 

    Deaths and side effects from the covid vaccines far exceed those swine flu vaccine numbers... I am in agreement with 'thin the herd' and expect a lot of naive, easily conned, and low info voters to be given the kill shot soon. Don't forget your boosters...

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    The polio vaccines early on caused a lot of people to become infected with polio...agreed but the Salk and Sabin polio vaccines proved to be more effective with a lot less problems than the earlier ones. 

    In 1976 more than 40 million Americans -- almost 25% of the population -- received the swine flu vaccine before the program was halted in December after 10 weeks. More than 500 people are thought to have developed Guillain-Barre syndrome after receiving the vaccine; thousands filed lawsuits against the federal government and won a great deal of money... 25 or 32 died depending on who you believe. 

    From 1980 onwards, vaccine makers can no longer be sued in court and this was the last time that a vaccine was fast tracked by the government til now. 

    Deaths and side effects from the covid vaccines far exceed those swine flu vaccine numbers... I am in agreement with 'thin the herd' and expect a lot of naive, easily conned, and low info voters to be given the kill shot soon. Don't forget your boosters...

     
     
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     Zero ?? 

    C'mon brother...I don't even want to truly  comment on that one ..

    As mentioned I've already lost 4 people ...

    Some of the people around those 4  tested positive as well ...My uncle for instance was very sick , it got worse 4 or 5 days in ..His wife tested positive and had mild symptoms for 3 days...Their 2 sons had just had post nasal drip for a week , while one of their GF'S tested positive but had no symptoms..

    One of my favorite  former coworkers,  whole family tested positive( wife and 4 kids ages 12-23) . He passed after 3 weeks in the hospital,  his wife had no symptoms,  .The oldest kid had mild symptoms , but lost his sense of smell and taste  for over 3 months ..Youngest was sick for 3 days and then fine ..The other 2 tested positive but had very little symptoms other than extremely tired ..

    Covid crushed the minority community here,  many younger people thought they were in prime shape and had nothing to worry about ..One of the best ever Rugby players at BUFFALO STATE ( graduated 5 years ago) , got covid last april , but had no symptoms , went on to knowingly spread it like wildfire to his family , people at his job and church  ...He speaks at 3 services a week now at  church about how foolish he was , begging for forgiveness... He holds himself personally responsible for at least 7 deaths within the people he came in contact with...

     

    I pray that you or anyone you care about it gets sick from Covid,  it seems to be not be real to those who havent been impacted yet 

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     Zero ?? 

    C'mon brother...I don't even want to truly  comment on that one ..

    As mentioned I've already lost 4 people ...

    Some of the people around those 4  tested positive as well ...My uncle for instance was very sick , it got worse 4 or 5 days in ..His wife tested positive and had mild symptoms for 3 days...Their 2 sons had just had post nasal drip for a week , while one of their GF'S tested positive but had no symptoms..

    One of my favorite  former coworkers,  whole family tested positive( wife and 4 kids ages 12-23) . He passed after 3 weeks in the hospital,  his wife had no symptoms,  .The oldest kid had mild symptoms , but lost his sense of smell and taste  for over 3 months ..Youngest was sick for 3 days and then fine ..The other 2 tested positive but had very little symptoms other than extremely tired ..

    Covid crushed the minority community here,  many younger people thought they were in prime shape and had nothing to worry about ..One of the best ever Rugby players at BUFFALO STATE ( graduated 5 years ago) , got covid last april , but had no symptoms , went on to knowingly spread it like wildfire to his family , people at his job and church  ...He speaks at 3 services a week now at  church about how foolish he was , begging for forgiveness... He holds himself personally responsible for at least 7 deaths within the people he came in contact with...

     

    I pray that you or anyone you care about it gets sick from Covid,  it seems to be not be real to those who havent been impacted yet 

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