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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 9:25 AM ET #26

    Frankthetank had some interesting trends:
     

    Chicago is 65-8-2 ATS when they win outright in last 75 contests.
    Chicago is 17-5 ATS at Soldier Field against AFC teams.
    Kansas City is 4-13-1 ATS away playing an NFC teams

    Oak is 8-2 ATS in September playing on the road off a home game
    Denver
    is 1-11 ATS in a home game where the total is between 35.5 and 42 points over the last

    Philly is 15-5 ATS in home games against conference opponents over the last three seasons.


    DET is 12-4 ATS at home after scoring 28 or more points
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    Frankthetank had some interesting trends:
     

    Chicago is 65-8-2 ATS when they win outright in last 75 contests.
    Chicago is 17-5 ATS at Soldier Field against AFC teams.
    Kansas City is 4-13-1 ATS away playing an NFC teams

    Oak is 8-2 ATS in September playing on the road off a home game
    Denver
    is 1-11 ATS in a home game where the total is between 35.5 and 42 points over the last

    Philly is 15-5 ATS in home games against conference opponents over the last three seasons.


    DET is 12-4 ATS at home after scoring 28 or more points
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 9:36 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by CrewMember:

     

    you know if any of these will be sure plays Roberto?

     

    buddy u need to relax.... what are u doing a $5 card that needs to be in wednesday am....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrewMember:

     

    you know if any of these will be sure plays Roberto?

     

    buddy u need to relax.... what are u doing a $5 card that needs to be in wednesday am....

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 10:39 AM ET #28

    -MIA are 8-22 ATS in their last 30 home games.
    -Cowboys are 5-0 ATS in their last 5 games after allowing more than 30 points in their previous game.
    -Cowboys are 5-2 ATS in their last 7 games as a favorite of 3.5-10.0.
    -Dolphins are 1-4 ATS in their last 5 games as a home underdog.
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    -MIA are 8-22 ATS in their last 30 home games.
    -Cowboys are 5-0 ATS in their last 5 games after allowing more than 30 points in their previous game.
    -Cowboys are 5-2 ATS in their last 7 games as a favorite of 3.5-10.0.
    -Dolphins are 1-4 ATS in their last 5 games as a home underdog.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 10:45 AM ET #29

    Bills are 0-5 ATS against Steelers head-to-head
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    Bills are 0-5 ATS against Steelers head-to-head
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 11:35 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by vegaslover:

    Bills are 0-5 ATS against Steelers head-to-head

     

    ATS Head to Head makes no sense ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegaslover:

    Bills are 0-5 ATS against Steelers head-to-head

     

    ATS Head to Head makes no sense ...

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 12:42 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by DMDsharp:

     

    ATS Head to Head makes no sense ...



    yes it does. last 5 times that Bills played Steelers, Bills lost all 5 against the spread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMDsharp:

     

    ATS Head to Head makes no sense ...



    yes it does. last 5 times that Bills played Steelers, Bills lost all 5 against the spread.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 12:43 PM ET #32

    roberto, nice work last week.

    GL this week


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    roberto, nice work last week.

    GL this week


     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 1:08 PM ET #33

    A stat involving team A  against team B ...also involves team B against team A...
    It is redundant to add " head to head "
    no need...
     
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    A stat involving team A  against team B ...also involves team B against team A...
    It is redundant to add " head to head "
    no need...
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 1:20 PM ET #34

    From two minute warning >>>>
     
     
    Trends

    Week Two

    With only one game played, teams are in two groups: 1-0 and 0-1 records. With these two groups you have four permutations for the potential matchups. The following table shows how teams have done against the spread since 1992.

    Week Two Matchups
    Home Team
    Record
    Away Team
    Record
    Home W-L
    vs the Spread
    Home
    Spread %
    0-1
    0-1
    15-35
    30%
    0-1
    1-0
    31-31
    50%
    1-0
    0-1
    34-25
    58%
    1-0
    1-0
    24-22
    52%

    Analysis: The only thing to note in this table is that in a meeting of teams with 0-1 records the away team (presumably the dog in most cases) has covered at a high rate. Not that this constitutes a great deal of meaningful data, but based on this table, a few teams might be worth closer scrutiny here in 2007. Of the qualifying situational teams, we'll go with the Chiefs.

    Favor: Kansas City +12

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    From two minute warning >>>>
     
     
    Trends

    Week Two

    With only one game played, teams are in two groups: 1-0 and 0-1 records. With these two groups you have four permutations for the potential matchups. The following table shows how teams have done against the spread since 1992.

    Week Two Matchups
    Home Team
    Record
    Away Team
    Record
    Home W-L
    vs the Spread
    Home
    Spread %
    0-1
    0-1
    15-35
    30%
    0-1
    1-0
    31-31
    50%
    1-0
    0-1
    34-25
    58%
    1-0
    1-0
    24-22
    52%

    Analysis: The only thing to note in this table is that in a meeting of teams with 0-1 records the away team (presumably the dog in most cases) has covered at a high rate. Not that this constitutes a great deal of meaningful data, but based on this table, a few teams might be worth closer scrutiny here in 2007. Of the qualifying situational teams, we'll go with the Chiefs.

    Favor: Kansas City +12

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 1:25 PM ET #35

    Gone for the rest of day .....
     
    Anyone that wants to contribute ....
    Look for meaningful trends that favor the following teams :
     
    Tampa Bay
    Cleveland
    Miami
    Arizona
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    Gone for the rest of day .....
     
    Anyone that wants to contribute ....
    Look for meaningful trends that favor the following teams :
     
    Tampa Bay
    Cleveland
    Miami
    Arizona
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 1:58 PM ET #36

    Crewmember, give Roberto a break.  He works hard and is trying to make his pick for the upcoming week.  Stop rushing him and everyone else.  The game is not until Sunday, its only Wednesday buddy.  Just sit back and let all the cappers do what they gotta do! 
     
     
    BOL This week Roberto, love your stats each week.
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    Crewmember, give Roberto a break.  He works hard and is trying to make his pick for the upcoming week.  Stop rushing him and everyone else.  The game is not until Sunday, its only Wednesday buddy.  Just sit back and let all the cappers do what they gotta do! 
     
     
    BOL This week Roberto, love your stats each week.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 2:52 PM ET #37

    Roberto,
     
    The Atlanta Falcons + 10
    fall into the 0-1 vs. 0-1 system &
    NFC vs. AFC early season trend.
     
  • Jaguars are 1-4 ATS in their last 5 games as a favorite.
  • Jaguars are 4-22 ATS in their last 26 games after allowing more than 150 yards rushing in their previous game.
  • Jaguars are 0-4 ATS in their last 4 games on Grass.
  • Jaguars are 0-4 ATS in their last 4 games overall.
  • Atlanta 6-1 last 6 on grass...
  • Harrington will have a good game or 2 throughout the year. What do you think about this for a spot? Any other trends on this game besides the fact that Atlanta is 4-1 ats last 5 head 2 head & 2-0 in Jax? I know it's a different offense without Vick, but Jags gave up about 250 on the ground last week vs. Tennessee & Atlanta is a stronger running team than passing.
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    Roberto,
     
    The Atlanta Falcons + 10
    fall into the 0-1 vs. 0-1 system &
    NFC vs. AFC early season trend.
     
  • Jaguars are 1-4 ATS in their last 5 games as a favorite.
  • Jaguars are 4-22 ATS in their last 26 games after allowing more than 150 yards rushing in their previous game.
  • Jaguars are 0-4 ATS in their last 4 games on Grass.
  • Jaguars are 0-4 ATS in their last 4 games overall.
  • Atlanta 6-1 last 6 on grass...
  • Harrington will have a good game or 2 throughout the year. What do you think about this for a spot? Any other trends on this game besides the fact that Atlanta is 4-1 ats last 5 head 2 head & 2-0 in Jax? I know it's a different offense without Vick, but Jags gave up about 250 on the ground last week vs. Tennessee & Atlanta is a stronger running team than passing.
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 3:00 PM ET #38

    HI Roberto
    Aprreciate your hard work, been reading since last season and done well off your trends and picks, so time for me to pay back
     
    I run a spread pool at work. The numbers might not be exact to the final lines because I sometimes have to guess a line as I issue them on Tuesday's. Also last year I took away the push by having every spread end in .5
    Anyway here are the stats
    Still a positvie result for the afc overall, with signinficant improvements in the 2nd half of the season again
     
    AFC/NFC FROM 2005/2006 AND 2004/2005
     
              05/06  04/05
    WK 1  1/1      -
    WK 2  2/2      1/3
    WK 3  5/1      2/1
    WK 4  1/2      1/0/1
    WK 5  4/2      1/1
    WK 6  2/2      3/1
    WK 7  2/4      3/3
    WK 8  2/2      2/1
    WK 9  1/1      5/3
    WK10  0/1     2/2
    WK11  2/1     5/0/1
    WK12  5/3     4/2
    WK13  ---      --
    WK14  1/1    3/1
    WK15  5/1    3/1
    WK16  1/1    1/1
    WK17  0/3    2/1/1
     
    TOTAL 34/28 FOR 54.8% for 2005/06
    TOTAL 38/21/3 FOR 61.3% FOR 2004/05
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    HI Roberto
    Aprreciate your hard work, been reading since last season and done well off your trends and picks, so time for me to pay back
     
    I run a spread pool at work. The numbers might not be exact to the final lines because I sometimes have to guess a line as I issue them on Tuesday's. Also last year I took away the push by having every spread end in .5
    Anyway here are the stats
    Still a positvie result for the afc overall, with signinficant improvements in the 2nd half of the season again
     
    AFC/NFC FROM 2005/2006 AND 2004/2005
     
              05/06  04/05
    WK 1  1/1      -
    WK 2  2/2      1/3
    WK 3  5/1      2/1
    WK 4  1/2      1/0/1
    WK 5  4/2      1/1
    WK 6  2/2      3/1
    WK 7  2/4      3/3
    WK 8  2/2      2/1
    WK 9  1/1      5/3
    WK10  0/1     2/2
    WK11  2/1     5/0/1
    WK12  5/3     4/2
    WK13  ---      --
    WK14  1/1    3/1
    WK15  5/1    3/1
    WK16  1/1    1/1
    WK17  0/3    2/1/1
     
    TOTAL 34/28 FOR 54.8% for 2005/06
    TOTAL 38/21/3 FOR 61.3% FOR 2004/05
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 3:06 PM ET #39

    RF
    I know you are gone for the day but look at this when you have a chance.

    Det won outright at dog last week and now set up as favorite -3 versus
    Min.   Wasn't there a trend of fading teams who won as dog the  previous week and post as favorite next week?

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    RF
    I know you are gone for the day but look at this when you have a chance.

    Det won outright at dog last week and now set up as favorite -3 versus
    Min.   Wasn't there a trend of fading teams who won as dog the  previous week and post as favorite next week?

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 7:47 PM ET #40

    Dont know if this has been posted in here but...

    Miami is 20-4 in September home games since 1994.
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    Dont know if this has been posted in here but...

    Miami is 20-4 in September home games since 1994.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 8:20 PM ET #41

      Roberto....get some rest bro!
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      Roberto....get some rest bro!
     
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    Hello all. I don't post/comment often (simply due to lack of time in front of a computer), but I have been a "covers forum voyeur" over the past couple of years and found the game information/stats/write-ups to be invaluable.

     

    I have massive respect for all the awesome cappers in here, the incredible knowledge flying around and the sharing of fabulous insight and information.

     

    I must admit that some of my favorite reads are the incredibly humorous nut jobs that rear their head on occasion (i.e. "Mr. Bator, please post your picks ASAP. I need you to do all the work for me and give me some free picks since I can't even pick my underwear out of my ass without your help"........."C-mon, RF, it is Wednesday morning already and you have given me nothing to put my lunch money on..", etc.---absolutely hilarious). Some of the funniest shit ever resides in the covers forums.

     

    Okay, enough of that, I popped in here for a reason. While capping some of the games this weekend (I don't like this weekend's card much at all, by the way) I found myself thinking that I cannot remember very many situations with multiple double-digit spreads in the same day/weekend. Many weeks there are none and occasionally a couple.....but double-digit spreads in basically 1/3 of the games (five games) this Sunday just really jumped out at me. So, it prompted me to go a little deeper and I figured RF's AWESOME Trends & Things thread would be the most appropriate place to share my findings.

     

    Over the past 24 games in which the HOME team is favored by 10 or more, ONLY FIVE have covered the spread (with 6 of the huge dogs taking the moneyline). That is an 18-5-1 clip in favor of the road dogs getting double-digits.

     

    In addition, I could only find 1 week (since 2001) in which there were more than 3 games that apply and all home fav's covered. In other words, besides that one week (wk 13 of the 2005 season---3 games applied and all 3 home teams SMASHED their opponent), EVERY TIME that this situation existed in more than 2 games, at least one road dog pulled out the ATS win. That totaled out to 13 weekends of >3 double-digit home fav's. 13 weekends and only 1 time no doggies covered. Basically, that tells me that on any weekend of at least 3 double-digit home fav's, at least one dog will always be barking and very likely win on the moneyline.  

     

    Going back just a bit further........double-digit road dogs have covered 46 of the past 71 such games.........double-digit road dogs have covered 82 of the past 130 such games.

     

    What does all of this mean? Hell, I don't know, I just found it very interesting. Again, I don't like this card very much, but if one was leaning towards one/some/all of these 5 double-digit dogs, this should hopefully make you feel even more comfortable locking it in.

     

    Based on the above stats, I would honestly not be surprised at all to see at least 3 of them cover, with at least 1 winning the game outright. The degenerate in me is almost tempted to make a small (1/2 unit maybe) play on all the dog moneylines.

     

    My leans would be in this order, with most appealing at the top:

     

    BILLS +10 @ Steelers: (since I bleed Black & Gold, I very rarely play any side involving my Steelers but I know them VERY well and would never even consider laying 10 with them against anybody. While it was bizarre to not see the Cowher Scower on the sideline, it is obvious this team already has massive respect for Tomlin and he is a great fit for my team and has a similar defensive mind to tricky Dick and the scheme the Steelers have had effectiveness with in years past. They looked decent against the Browns, but who wouldn't. They typically do not run up the score---especially in games outside of their division----and play a smash mouth game and just want to run it down your throat when they are ahead, which they should be. Add that to the great trends for Buff in week 2's and the horrible trends for Pitt in week 2's and possibly a little extra motivation and "win this one for K.Everett" and I don't see a blowout here......maybe a 24-17 type game. As in any spread over 7, the back door cover is always a fear)

     

     

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    Hello all. I don't post/comment often (simply due to lack of time in front of a computer), but I have been a "covers forum voyeur" over the past couple of years and found the game information/stats/write-ups to be invaluable.

     

    I have massive respect for all the awesome cappers in here, the incredible knowledge flying around and the sharing of fabulous insight and information.

     

    I must admit that some of my favorite reads are the incredibly humorous nut jobs that rear their head on occasion (i.e. "Mr. Bator, please post your picks ASAP. I need you to do all the work for me and give me some free picks since I can't even pick my underwear out of my ass without your help"........."C-mon, RF, it is Wednesday morning already and you have given me nothing to put my lunch money on..", etc.---absolutely hilarious). Some of the funniest shit ever resides in the covers forums.

     

    Okay, enough of that, I popped in here for a reason. While capping some of the games this weekend (I don't like this weekend's card much at all, by the way) I found myself thinking that I cannot remember very many situations with multiple double-digit spreads in the same day/weekend. Many weeks there are none and occasionally a couple.....but double-digit spreads in basically 1/3 of the games (five games) this Sunday just really jumped out at me. So, it prompted me to go a little deeper and I figured RF's AWESOME Trends & Things thread would be the most appropriate place to share my findings.

     

    Over the past 24 games in which the HOME team is favored by 10 or more, ONLY FIVE have covered the spread (with 6 of the huge dogs taking the moneyline). That is an 18-5-1 clip in favor of the road dogs getting double-digits.

     

    In addition, I could only find 1 week (since 2001) in which there were more than 3 games that apply and all home fav's covered. In other words, besides that one week (wk 13 of the 2005 season---3 games applied and all 3 home teams SMASHED their opponent), EVERY TIME that this situation existed in more than 2 games, at least one road dog pulled out the ATS win. That totaled out to 13 weekends of >3 double-digit home fav's. 13 weekends and only 1 time no doggies covered. Basically, that tells me that on any weekend of at least 3 double-digit home fav's, at least one dog will always be barking and very likely win on the moneyline.  

     

    Going back just a bit further........double-digit road dogs have covered 46 of the past 71 such games.........double-digit road dogs have covered 82 of the past 130 such games.

     

    What does all of this mean? Hell, I don't know, I just found it very interesting. Again, I don't like this card very much, but if one was leaning towards one/some/all of these 5 double-digit dogs, this should hopefully make you feel even more comfortable locking it in.

     

    Based on the above stats, I would honestly not be surprised at all to see at least 3 of them cover, with at least 1 winning the game outright. The degenerate in me is almost tempted to make a small (1/2 unit maybe) play on all the dog moneylines.

     

    My leans would be in this order, with most appealing at the top:

     

    BILLS +10 @ Steelers: (since I bleed Black & Gold, I very rarely play any side involving my Steelers but I know them VERY well and would never even consider laying 10 with them against anybody. While it was bizarre to not see the Cowher Scower on the sideline, it is obvious this team already has massive respect for Tomlin and he is a great fit for my team and has a similar defensive mind to tricky Dick and the scheme the Steelers have had effectiveness with in years past. They looked decent against the Browns, but who wouldn't. They typically do not run up the score---especially in games outside of their division----and play a smash mouth game and just want to run it down your throat when they are ahead, which they should be. Add that to the great trends for Buff in week 2's and the horrible trends for Pitt in week 2's and possibly a little extra motivation and "win this one for K.Everett" and I don't see a blowout here......maybe a 24-17 type game. As in any spread over 7, the back door cover is always a fear)

     

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 9:02 PM ET #43

    I think I just talked myself into playing the Raiders and Jets...we shall see.

     

    The only thing that I have locked in thus far is the Saints -3 (2 units). I only get in early if I fear the line will change against me during the week (which looks to be the case here as I see it at 3.5 most places. I will be surprised if it does not go to 4 or more by game time). I just cannot see opening the paper next Monday and viewing 0-2 as N.O. record. Saints were embarrassed (shredded in 2nd half) on national T.V. and they have realistic expectations of going deep into the playoffs with this crew now being together for a full year. They know the chances of that go down immensely if they fall to 0-2. Sean Payton is a great coach and is a fabulous game planner (mark my words, in 3-4 years from now we will be calling him a mastermind game planner with the ax’s and or’s based on who they are playing, schemes, etc.). They have playmakers and they have a ton of pride on that ballclub and you will see their best effort this weekend. That does not bode well for a team that flew across the country last week to get slapped around and go deaf in Seattle, then back across the country again to face a very talented team (could go toe to toe with many in the league in terms of skill positions) that is pissed off and has something to prove (to themselves as well).

     

    Other LEANS I am looking into:

     

    Raiders/Denver Under: There are a zillion trends favoring the under on both sides. Add to that what we saw from Denver's defense last week, Raiders offense last week and history between these two and I like my chances.

     

    Cowboys @ Dolphins +3.5: I like home dogs to begin with, but I think this one sets up nicely for the fish. If I play this game, I will play the moneyline as well. Boys are 6-12 as a road favorite on grass. The fish have not done great as a very small dog at home, but they are 6-3 ATS as a dog of 3 or more at home. Are the Cowboys a better team---of course they are, but Romo will face a better rush than he did last week and the timing won't be the same. Lastly, when capping a game and looking at all the angles, etc. If I am leaning to one team already and they are an AFC team vs. NFC team, that will usually seal the deal. Have not played it yet as line seems to be moving in my favor.

     

    I am also going to look closer at the Pats/Chargers under and Rams/Niners Under

     

     

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    I think I just talked myself into playing the Raiders and Jets...we shall see.

     

    The only thing that I have locked in thus far is the Saints -3 (2 units). I only get in early if I fear the line will change against me during the week (which looks to be the case here as I see it at 3.5 most places. I will be surprised if it does not go to 4 or more by game time). I just cannot see opening the paper next Monday and viewing 0-2 as N.O. record. Saints were embarrassed (shredded in 2nd half) on national T.V. and they have realistic expectations of going deep into the playoffs with this crew now being together for a full year. They know the chances of that go down immensely if they fall to 0-2. Sean Payton is a great coach and is a fabulous game planner (mark my words, in 3-4 years from now we will be calling him a mastermind game planner with the ax’s and or’s based on who they are playing, schemes, etc.). They have playmakers and they have a ton of pride on that ballclub and you will see their best effort this weekend. That does not bode well for a team that flew across the country last week to get slapped around and go deaf in Seattle, then back across the country again to face a very talented team (could go toe to toe with many in the league in terms of skill positions) that is pissed off and has something to prove (to themselves as well).

     

    Other LEANS I am looking into:

     

    Raiders/Denver Under: There are a zillion trends favoring the under on both sides. Add to that what we saw from Denver's defense last week, Raiders offense last week and history between these two and I like my chances.

     

    Cowboys @ Dolphins +3.5: I like home dogs to begin with, but I think this one sets up nicely for the fish. If I play this game, I will play the moneyline as well. Boys are 6-12 as a road favorite on grass. The fish have not done great as a very small dog at home, but they are 6-3 ATS as a dog of 3 or more at home. Are the Cowboys a better team---of course they are, but Romo will face a better rush than he did last week and the timing won't be the same. Lastly, when capping a game and looking at all the angles, etc. If I am leaning to one team already and they are an AFC team vs. NFC team, that will usually seal the deal. Have not played it yet as line seems to be moving in my favor.

     

    I am also going to look closer at the Pats/Chargers under and Rams/Niners Under

     

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 9:37 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoFiory:

    Northern California here
     

    Whereabouts, Roberto?  San Francisco here
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    Northern California here
     

    Whereabouts, Roberto?  San Francisco here
     
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    ....wow, I just noticed that the middle of my writeup (was too long, so had to go into 3 posts) didn't get copied pasted, not sure what happened there. It is saved at work so I will put it in here tomorrow because it covers the other 4 double-digit spread games.
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    ....wow, I just noticed that the middle of my writeup (was too long, so had to go into 3 posts) didn't get copied pasted, not sure what happened there. It is saved at work so I will put it in here tomorrow because it covers the other 4 double-digit spread games.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 10:43 PM ET #46

    yeah, where in the Bay Area Roberto and Wildsnake4? The Creek here...Walnut Creek, that is.
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    yeah, where in the Bay Area Roberto and Wildsnake4? The Creek here...Walnut Creek, that is.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2007 - 1:03 AM ET #47

    Roberto, great job last week, very insightful information.
     
    does anybody know the trends for MNF winners?  does anybody have any good trends to follow there?
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    Roberto, great job last week, very insightful information.
     
    does anybody know the trends for MNF winners?  does anybody have any good trends to follow there?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2007 - 1:07 AM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoFiory:

    Gone for the rest of day .....
     
    Anyone that wants to contribute ....
    Look for meaningful trends that favor the following teams :
     
    Tampa Bay
    Cleveland
    Miami
    Arizona

    are you forgetting tennessee? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertoFiory:

    Gone for the rest of day .....
     
    Anyone that wants to contribute ....
    Look for meaningful trends that favor the following teams :
     
    Tampa Bay
    Cleveland
    Miami
    Arizona

    are you forgetting tennessee? 

     
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    Thanks for all the 411, I have no requests of you and lots of praise
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    Thanks for all the 411, I have no requests of you and lots of praise
     
     
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    Favor: Kansas City +12

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    I know you've been doing very well, but I think you should re-consider the KC +12 because the only way they cover is if they get +24

    Although KC and CHI are both 0-1 and the chart basically says you should take the away team in this case...but you must look at who they played the previous week.  KC got blown out by houston (a potential 8-8 team) and chi barley lost to a potential superbowl team.  Anyway, since this is a trend post, last season CHI always came back after a loss to smash their next opponent.  I really believe if this line stays under 13 CHI is the play for sure.

    the chart is going to read 16-35 after this game

     

    anyway goodluck roberto

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    Favor: Kansas City +12

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    I know you've been doing very well, but I think you should re-consider the KC +12 because the only way they cover is if they get +24

    Although KC and CHI are both 0-1 and the chart basically says you should take the away team in this case...but you must look at who they played the previous week.  KC got blown out by houston (a potential 8-8 team) and chi barley lost to a potential superbowl team.  Anyway, since this is a trend post, last season CHI always came back after a loss to smash their next opponent.  I really believe if this line stays under 13 CHI is the play for sure.

    the chart is going to read 16-35 after this game

     

    anyway goodluck roberto

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