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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2016 - 6:08 PM ET #76

    Tom Brady president maker? How about that if and when Tom Brady endorses Trump for President might be the edge to put Trump over the finish line . Tom Brady will be able to be the next Secretary of Health Education and Corporate Welfare under a Trump presidency. Ya know Big Goofy is a card carrying member of the 1%. We can only hope and pray because finally SOMEONE else gets a chance to play quarterback for the NE Patriots beyond 4 games. Keep up telling it like it is Mysticrich these Big Goofy yahoo's got it coming for a long long time.
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    Tom Brady president maker? How about that if and when Tom Brady endorses Trump for President might be the edge to put Trump over the finish line . Tom Brady will be able to be the next Secretary of Health Education and Corporate Welfare under a Trump presidency. Ya know Big Goofy is a card carrying member of the 1%. We can only hope and pray because finally SOMEONE else gets a chance to play quarterback for the NE Patriots beyond 4 games. Keep up telling it like it is Mysticrich these Big Goofy yahoo's got it coming for a long long time.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2016 - 12:20 PM ET #77

    put manning or car. qb on clev wash ten etc. how good would they be.brady has had the biggest turnover of players each year.when manning was at indy wasn't his off. the same for over 10yrs.
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    put manning or car. qb on clev wash ten etc. how good would they be.brady has had the biggest turnover of players each year.when manning was at indy wasn't his off. the same for over 10yrs.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2016 - 6:35 PM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by usarmy69-71:

    put manning or car. qb on clev wash ten etc. how good would they be.brady has had the biggest turnover of players each year.when manning was at indy wasn't his off. the same for over 10yrs.


    Listen the guy throws the ball 0-10 yards there is nothing he does on a talent level  that any QB from high school to college can't do  watch the games 

    If the Patriots go 4-0 to start the season that would put the Patriots record at 15-5 without Big Goofy Brady 

    15-5 with two first time starting QB'S who wouldn't win a game playing anywhere else .

    Will that finally end the discussion that this is the easiest team to be a QB on ?  
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    Quote Originally Posted by usarmy69-71:

    put manning or car. qb on clev wash ten etc. how good would they be.brady has had the biggest turnover of players each year.when manning was at indy wasn't his off. the same for over 10yrs.


    Listen the guy throws the ball 0-10 yards there is nothing he does on a talent level  that any QB from high school to college can't do  watch the games 

    If the Patriots go 4-0 to start the season that would put the Patriots record at 15-5 without Big Goofy Brady 

    15-5 with two first time starting QB'S who wouldn't win a game playing anywhere else .

    Will that finally end the discussion that this is the easiest team to be a QB on ?  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2016 - 7:14 PM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by MYSTICRICH:

    Quote Originally Posted by usarmy69-71:

    put manning or car. qb on clev wash ten etc. how good would they be.brady has had the biggest turnover of players each year.when manning was at indy wasn't his off. the same for over 10yrs.
    Listen the guy throws the ball 0-10 yards there is nothing he does on a talent level  that any QB from high school to college can't do  watch the games If the Patriots go 4-0 to start the season that would put the Patriots record at 15-5 without Big Goofy Brady 15-5 with two first time starting QB'S who wouldn't win a game playing anywhere else .Will that finally end the discussion that this is the easiest team to be a QB on ?

    Blame Belichick for the dink and dunk system that Tom Brady has flourished under. Brady follows game plan by BILL . Ya cant have it both ways Mysticrich. As you have said before if Brady played on the NY Jets he would be long gone from football but Brady plays for NE Patriots under Bill Belichick. As I said before much of your Brady criticism is displaced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usarmy69-71:

    put manning or car. qb on clev wash ten etc. how good would they be.brady has had the biggest turnover of players each year.when manning was at indy wasn't his off. the same for over 10yrs.
    Listen the guy throws the ball 0-10 yards there is nothing he does on a talent level  that any QB from high school to college can't do  watch the games If the Patriots go 4-0 to start the season that would put the Patriots record at 15-5 without Big Goofy Brady 15-5 with two first time starting QB'S who wouldn't win a game playing anywhere else .Will that finally end the discussion that this is the easiest team to be a QB on ?

    Blame Belichick for the dink and dunk system that Tom Brady has flourished under. Brady follows game plan by BILL . Ya cant have it both ways Mysticrich. As you have said before if Brady played on the NY Jets he would be long gone from football but Brady plays for NE Patriots under Bill Belichick. As I said before much of your Brady criticism is displaced.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2016 - 12:26 AM ET #80

      Really Beast   are you have a complete mental breakdown 


    Blame Belichick   for what ?     for figuring out how to win games with minimal talent at the QB position ?  What are we blaming hm for Beast 

    The Big Goofy criticism is displaced    like how 


    If the Patriots go 4-0 they will be 15-5 without big Goofy Brady aka (Hoziontal Tom )

    That's 15-5 with two first year starting QB's who never even played in a division 1 college football game 

    And  both wouldn't be a starting QB on any other team in the NFL 

    And this validates everthing i've been telling everyone on this site for 10 years that Brady's the biggest fraud in the history of sports .

    Anyone short of a paraplegic can win games as a QB for the New England Patriots 

    The media and the public are a bunch of Bozo's when it comes to evaluating individual talent in a team sport like football 


    You know Beast sometimes Silence is Golden when you have nothing to say that makes any sense , 
    Try it sometime    
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      Really Beast   are you have a complete mental breakdown 


    Blame Belichick   for what ?     for figuring out how to win games with minimal talent at the QB position ?  What are we blaming hm for Beast 

    The Big Goofy criticism is displaced    like how 


    If the Patriots go 4-0 they will be 15-5 without big Goofy Brady aka (Hoziontal Tom )

    That's 15-5 with two first year starting QB's who never even played in a division 1 college football game 

    And  both wouldn't be a starting QB on any other team in the NFL 

    And this validates everthing i've been telling everyone on this site for 10 years that Brady's the biggest fraud in the history of sports .

    Anyone short of a paraplegic can win games as a QB for the New England Patriots 

    The media and the public are a bunch of Bozo's when it comes to evaluating individual talent in a team sport like football 


    You know Beast sometimes Silence is Golden when you have nothing to say that makes any sense , 
    Try it sometime    
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2016 - 1:40 AM ET #81

    Arizona by 7

    O-line: Arizona
    QB: Arizona
    WRs: Arizona
    TE: NE
    RBs: Arizona
    Offensive playcalling: Arizona because NE has to change their playcalling without Brady
    Special teams: NE
    D-line: Arizona
    Linebackers: NE
    Secondary: Even
    Defensive playcalling: Arizona
    Home field and travel advantage: Arizona

    Like somebody else said, Arians loves to run it up if possible. In Week 1, he will definitely try to do that. Furthermore, expect them to try to confuse Jimmy G. with mixed secondary coverages (safeties/CBs/LBs) switching roles.

    BTW, Cooper is a bust, and the Zona line is far better than Suuma gave them credit for.

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    Arizona by 7

    O-line: Arizona
    QB: Arizona
    WRs: Arizona
    TE: NE
    RBs: Arizona
    Offensive playcalling: Arizona because NE has to change their playcalling without Brady
    Special teams: NE
    D-line: Arizona
    Linebackers: NE
    Secondary: Even
    Defensive playcalling: Arizona
    Home field and travel advantage: Arizona

    Like somebody else said, Arians loves to run it up if possible. In Week 1, he will definitely try to do that. Furthermore, expect them to try to confuse Jimmy G. with mixed secondary coverages (safeties/CBs/LBs) switching roles.

    BTW, Cooper is a bust, and the Zona line is far better than Suuma gave them credit for.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2016 - 2:01 PM ET #82

    OK, OK Mysticrich I get your point and your correct about any QB with minimal talent would be successful under a Belichik system. My point is also in agreement but where we differ is Brady "lucked out" by winning the Patriot QB lottery just by being backup to Bledsoe. Brady only claim to good fortune is being in the right place at the right time. Im not one of these CLOSE MINDED individuals who shout Brady from the rooftops all I was saying is Brady is the luckiest average QB in the NFL and ya cant fault him for that Mysticrich.
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    OK, OK Mysticrich I get your point and your correct about any QB with minimal talent would be successful under a Belichik system. My point is also in agreement but where we differ is Brady "lucked out" by winning the Patriot QB lottery just by being backup to Bledsoe. Brady only claim to good fortune is being in the right place at the right time. Im not one of these CLOSE MINDED individuals who shout Brady from the rooftops all I was saying is Brady is the luckiest average QB in the NFL and ya cant fault him for that Mysticrich.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2016 - 3:38 PM ET #83

    Here we go again with blaming and faulting Beast who's doing that ? i'm telling you what he's is

    He's not an average QB on any other team that don't allow him to stand in a shotgun and throw quick little passes 0-10 yards .

    Brady's a below average QB  if he's asked to throw a football downfield ,The 0-13-1 int on balls 15 yards or over in  two SB's vs the Giants exemplifies this.

     Like i said before he's the only QB in the NFL who's coach doesn't ask him to throw a ball over 15 yards even down DD in 3rd or 4th , what QB in this league has that luxury ?



    How many more Beast ? How many more



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    Here we go again with blaming and faulting Beast who's doing that ? i'm telling you what he's is

    He's not an average QB on any other team that don't allow him to stand in a shotgun and throw quick little passes 0-10 yards .

    Brady's a below average QB  if he's asked to throw a football downfield ,The 0-13-1 int on balls 15 yards or over in  two SB's vs the Giants exemplifies this.

     Like i said before he's the only QB in the NFL who's coach doesn't ask him to throw a ball over 15 yards even down DD in 3rd or 4th , what QB in this league has that luxury ?



    How many more Beast ? How many more



     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2016 - 4:10 PM ET #84

    The only one i'm blaming Beast is the media and the public for not being able to see threw all this BS .

    They have no ability to judge individual talent in a team sport

    And don't really understand what a crappy league this is ,

    A league with unbalanced divisions and a very weak AFC conference which basically has set the Patriots up every year to only having to win 1 competitive game to go to the Super bowl every year for the last 14 .

    Good sport to bet but  a real crappy product

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    The only one i'm blaming Beast is the media and the public for not being able to see threw all this BS .

    They have no ability to judge individual talent in a team sport

    And don't really understand what a crappy league this is ,

    A league with unbalanced divisions and a very weak AFC conference which basically has set the Patriots up every year to only having to win 1 competitive game to go to the Super bowl every year for the last 14 .

    Good sport to bet but  a real crappy product

     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2016 - 5:31 PM ET #85

    Bob Kraft proved his keen insightful football knowledge by sending 2 draft picks to the Jets in order to sign Bill Belichik which proves that Bob Kraft knows how to sign expert chefs who can buy the groceries and create a gourmet meal for 15 years. Not bad if I do say so myself. Thankyou Mr. ROBERT KRAFT! !!
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    Bob Kraft proved his keen insightful football knowledge by sending 2 draft picks to the Jets in order to sign Bill Belichik which proves that Bob Kraft knows how to sign expert chefs who can buy the groceries and create a gourmet meal for 15 years. Not bad if I do say so myself. Thankyou Mr. ROBERT KRAFT! !!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2016 - 2:47 AM ET #86

    FAT HEAD BOB KRAFT  that's it Beast

    The guy who could never give up opportunity to make a buck even when it came to marketing his dying wife Mira by selling shirts with her name on them , and all the time screwing around with a young chick

    FAT HEAD BOB needs to just thank his lucky stars he's in the stinky AFC East that's the real Trump Card

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    FAT HEAD BOB KRAFT  that's it Beast

    The guy who could never give up opportunity to make a buck even when it came to marketing his dying wife Mira by selling shirts with her name on them , and all the time screwing around with a young chick

    FAT HEAD BOB needs to just thank his lucky stars he's in the stinky AFC East that's the real Trump Card

     
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    You guys need a hobby in the off season. Complete boredom
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    You guys need a hobby in the off season. Complete boredom
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by spottie2935:

    You guys need a hobby in the off season. Complete boredom



    Talking about the structure of the NFL and how one team and QB have benefited  in a non competitive league you won't get this from the media

    You don't like it ?

    Then  tune into the NFL channel or ESPN you can hear people singing Happy Birthday to Big Goofy Tommy Brady and they also talk Fantasy Football


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    Quote Originally Posted by spottie2935:

    You guys need a hobby in the off season. Complete boredom



    Talking about the structure of the NFL and how one team and QB have benefited  in a non competitive league you won't get this from the media

    You don't like it ?

    Then  tune into the NFL channel or ESPN you can hear people singing Happy Birthday to Big Goofy Tommy Brady and they also talk Fantasy Football


     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2016 - 12:28 PM ET #89

    My point exactly Mysticrich, these lemmings could care less about the quality of the NFL, its over their heads and attention span. Dont waste your breath trying to change simple minds.
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    My point exactly Mysticrich, these lemmings could care less about the quality of the NFL, its over their heads and attention span. Dont waste your breath trying to change simple minds.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEBEAST387:

    No , Mysticrich its the Fearsome Arizona Cardinals who need some bum calls from the officials if they are ever going to beat the NE Patriots.
    So how did the Cardinals beat the Patriots in New England in 2012 with a backup QB named Kevin Kolb?
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    No , Mysticrich its the Fearsome Arizona Cardinals who need some bum calls from the officials if they are ever going to beat the NE Patriots.
    So how did the Cardinals beat the Patriots in New England in 2012 with a backup QB named Kevin Kolb?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWD1984:

    So how did the Cardinals beat the Patriots in New England in 2012 with a backup QB named Kevin Kolb?

    Cause Brady sucked in that game 28 -46  1 TD 1 INT   a rare regular season competitive game at foxboro  

    After that game Arizona won the next 2 games then lost 11 out of 12 SU 
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    So how did the Cardinals beat the Patriots in New England in 2012 with a backup QB named Kevin Kolb?

    Cause Brady sucked in that game 28 -46  1 TD 1 INT   a rare regular season competitive game at foxboro  

    After that game Arizona won the next 2 games then lost 11 out of 12 SU 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    Arizona by 7

    O-line: Arizona
    QB: Arizona
    WRs: Arizona
    TE: NE
    RBs: Arizona
    Offensive playcalling: Arizona because NE has to change their playcalling without Brady
    Special teams: NE
    D-line: Arizona
    Linebackers: NE
    Secondary: Even
    Defensive playcalling: Arizona
    Home field and travel advantage: Arizona

    Like somebody else said, Arians loves to run it up if possible. In Week 1, he will definitely try to do that. Furthermore, expect them to try to confuse Jimmy G. with mixed secondary coverages (safeties/CBs/LBs) switching roles.

    BTW, Cooper is a bust, and the Zona line is far better than Suuma gave them credit for.


    I just can't see this game going any other way. I think the Cardinals win by DD. This is this kid's first NFL start, and it's going to be tough sledding. You are NEVER going to get another opportunity like this, and there are still people taking the points. Makes me wonder sometimes. They may very well get a backdoor cover, but I really don't see much of a possibility there. Lopsided games can go South real quick. 
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    Arizona by 7

    O-line: Arizona
    QB: Arizona
    WRs: Arizona
    TE: NE
    RBs: Arizona
    Offensive playcalling: Arizona because NE has to change their playcalling without Brady
    Special teams: NE
    D-line: Arizona
    Linebackers: NE
    Secondary: Even
    Defensive playcalling: Arizona
    Home field and travel advantage: Arizona

    Like somebody else said, Arians loves to run it up if possible. In Week 1, he will definitely try to do that. Furthermore, expect them to try to confuse Jimmy G. with mixed secondary coverages (safeties/CBs/LBs) switching roles.

    BTW, Cooper is a bust, and the Zona line is far better than Suuma gave them credit for.


    I just can't see this game going any other way. I think the Cardinals win by DD. This is this kid's first NFL start, and it's going to be tough sledding. You are NEVER going to get another opportunity like this, and there are still people taking the points. Makes me wonder sometimes. They may very well get a backdoor cover, but I really don't see much of a possibility there. Lopsided games can go South real quick. 
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by porcelainfist:


    I just can't see this game going any other way. I think the Cardinals win by DD. This is this kid's first NFL start, and it's going to be tough sledding. You are NEVER going to get another opportunity like this, and there are still people taking the points. Makes me wonder sometimes. They may very well get a backdoor cover, but I really don't see much of a possibility there. Lopsided games can go South real quick. 


    This is the kids first NFL game ?  it's not 20 years ago you can either play 1st year out of college from the get go in the NFL or you can't .

    Your missing it  , anyone short of a paraplegic can win as the Patriot QB , the question in this game will be the Patriots defense , if they are good the Patriots can win the game SU  , don't worry about the offense or the QB they will move the ball with an up tempo they always do , there is zero drop off from Garoppolo to Brady , if anything it's a plus 
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    I just can't see this game going any other way. I think the Cardinals win by DD. This is this kid's first NFL start, and it's going to be tough sledding. You are NEVER going to get another opportunity like this, and there are still people taking the points. Makes me wonder sometimes. They may very well get a backdoor cover, but I really don't see much of a possibility there. Lopsided games can go South real quick. 


    This is the kids first NFL game ?  it's not 20 years ago you can either play 1st year out of college from the get go in the NFL or you can't .

    Your missing it  , anyone short of a paraplegic can win as the Patriot QB , the question in this game will be the Patriots defense , if they are good the Patriots can win the game SU  , don't worry about the offense or the QB they will move the ball with an up tempo they always do , there is zero drop off from Garoppolo to Brady , if anything it's a plus 
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