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#51
didn't philip rivers fumble a snap for a knee down once haha
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#53
Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
Sir -
Since NOBODY has fumbled a kneel down in NFL history, the current odds of that happening are ZERO.
If he fumbles the snap - Seattle has the ball on their own 20 yard line needing 80 yards in 40 seconds.
Come on.
yea but let's face it, the odds of smith fumbling a snap are never going to be zero. my point was what was least likely to occur. a fumbled snap or two onside recoveries sandwiched by a td. i'm just surprised you're calling to the 'right' thing to do. i was on the niners so a loss is a loss, but harbaugh being a cowboy and doing the unconventional thing and taking the ball instead of the 2 possession lead just wasn't the best thing he could've done.
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Posted:
#55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWGCeMNmyV0
I'm not sure if that fuck-up actually influenced the outcome of the game. Were the Chargers killing the clock anyway? If they were around midfield, probably it just didn't matter (since obviously the game went to OT)
But yes, it actually is possible to drop a pass like this, so the math is probably a little different than what I thought 30 minutes ago...
I'm not sure if that fuck-up actually influenced the outcome of the game. Were the Chargers killing the clock anyway? If they were around midfield, probably it just didn't matter (since obviously the game went to OT)
But yes, it actually is possible to drop a pass like this, so the math is probably a little different than what I thought 30 minutes ago...
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Posted:
#56
Quote Originally Posted by llyod23:
yea but let's face it, the odds of smith fumbling a snap are never going to be zero. my point was what was least likely to occur. a fumbled snap or two onside recoveries sandwiched by a td. i'm just surprised you're calling to the 'right' thing to do. i was on the niners so a loss is a loss, but harbaugh being a cowboy and doing the unconventional thing and taking the ball instead of the 2 possession lead just wasn't the best thing he could've done.
We are probably splitting hairs here, because both options are almost sure wins and the difference in negligible.
I can tell you that I would have done what he did, and it crossed my mind even before it was announced to decline. I kept thinking "was it a first down"?
If he took the safety, I dont think it would have been the "wrong" decision either - just think this was a little more right.
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#58
Quote Originally Posted by MuggsyBogues:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWGCeMNmyV0
I'm not sure if that fuck-up actually influenced the outcome of the game. Were the Chargers killing the clock anyway? If they were around midfield, probably it just didn't matter (since obviously the game went to OT)
But yes, it actually is possible to drop a pass like this, so the math is probably a little different than what I thought 30 minutes ago...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWGCeMNmyV0
I'm not sure if that fuck-up actually influenced the outcome of the game. Were the Chargers killing the clock anyway? If they were around midfield, probably it just didn't matter (since obviously the game went to OT)
But yes, it actually is possible to drop a pass like this, so the math is probably a little different than what I thought 30 minutes ago...
From that video - THAT WAS NOT A KNEEL DOWN.
He was going to hand it off.
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#59
Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
This rings a bell. But did the other team recover?
Yes, KC recovered and then won the game. Technically it wasn't a kneel down though as they were running a play so your NEVER IN HISTORY could be right, but I doubt it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWGCeMNmyV0
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Posted:
#61
Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
We are probably splitting hairs here, because both options are almost sure wins and the difference in negligible.
I can tell you that I would have done what he did, and it crossed my mind even before it was announced to decline. I kept thinking "was it a first down"?
If he took the safety, I dont think it would have been the "wrong" decision either - just think this was a little more right.
yea. well it is what it is. van, you need to start posting some EPL plays. i love betting soccer but don't really know how to cap it, only to fade arsenal...
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Posted:
#62
Quote Originally Posted by Flutiemaniac341:
That wasn't a kneel down
They were trying to run plays and get a closer fg.
Not even close besides being a national game and a fumbled snap at the end of the game!
This was a victory formation!
Did we not go over this with the Tampa coach?
The players don't even try!
That wasn't a kneel down
They were trying to run plays and get a closer fg.
Not even close besides being a national game and a fumbled snap at the end of the game!
This was a victory formation!
Did we not go over this with the Tampa coach?
The players don't even try!
Thanks.
I didnt even look at the score. It was tied. That was not a kneel down.
I go back to my oriignal statement - THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A FUMBLE ON A KNEELDOWN IN NFL HISTORY.
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Posted:
#63
Quote Originally Posted by llyod23:
yea. well it is what it is. van, you need to start posting some EPL plays. i love betting soccer but don't really know how to cap it, only to fade arsenal...
I have been KILLING it in EPL.
I am afraid to post plays. I know I will jinx it. Havent had a losing week this season.
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Posted:
#66
Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
vanzack....unless you just started watching NFL this year.......Philip Rivers fumbled a snap last year vs the Chiefs trying to center it for his placekicker for a game winning FG. Virtually the same thing IMHO.
Sir -
Since NOBODY has fumbled a kneel down in NFL history, the current odds of that happening are ZERO.
If he fumbles the snap - Seattle has the ball on their own 20 yard line needing 80 yards in 40 seconds.
Come on.
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Posted:
#67
Quote Originally Posted by jacksup44:
vanzack....unless you just started watching NFL this year.......Philip Rivers fumbled a snap last year vs the Chiefs trying to center it for his placekicker for a game winning FG. Virtually the same thing IMHO.
vanzack....unless you just started watching NFL this year.......Philip Rivers fumbled a snap last year vs the Chiefs trying to center it for his placekicker for a game winning FG. Virtually the same thing IMHO.
It was not a kneel down.
What is wrong with you? Read what I wrote. Read the thread.
He wasnt centering it - he was going to hand off.
Maybe you just started middle school last year.
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#70
I read what you wrote..... you tube the game and look at the situation and listen to Gruden commentating the play before the snap. It s hard to tell exactly what Rivers was trying to do but we ll never know because butterfingers fumbled the snap. Tie game on the 15 yard line on the right hashKC had no timeouts left one minute left.. you center the ball.
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Posted:
#73
Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
I have been KILLING it in EPL.
I am afraid to post plays. I know I will jinx it. Havent had a losing week this season.
Talk is cheap. No one cares unless your picks are documented.
And a big LOL that a self proclaimed 'professional gambler' believes in jinxes.
Keep living in your make believe world.
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