NFL Sunday Week 2 Sept 17....

Probably best if everyone just ignores and doesn't respond to this user, maybe he'll eventually go way if he doesn't get any attention.  Mods, would be super cool if individual users had the ability to mute other users so their posts don't show up in a user's view. 

Gotta love threads. Keep at it VAN 

@vanzack

 Week #3 my brother, down but far from being out

shit-happens, to the best of everyone, all capers experience hitting the 'wall' Billy Waters included!

recover, and move forward  "get that house money"

lot of creeps hanging' in this thread, who have absolutely no fuckin' idea who, or what they're dealing with!

later Van

@vanzack

 BOL going forward, looking towards week 3 

Got my teeth kicked in as well.  Had Denver too as my only afternoon game and that collapse was brutal.  No chasing, keep bets on small side early.  We will crawl back over next few weeks.

@vanzack

 No doubt you'll bounce back, look forward to your week 3 plays. 

Zack, this week hurt u on the GOLD CONTEST that bites. Go 5-0 this week n 

Hubby is off to 8-1 start got very lucky in the Rams 

Thanks all.  If you gamble long enough, this stuff happens.  Right back at em tonight.

@finsterbaby

Thats awesome!  Congrats on the great start.  I am going to have to string together a few great weeks to be competitive.  I came in 9th a few years ago - and the key was that I never had an 0-5 or a 1-4.  

GL the rest of the way.

@Tiltmachine23

 Nah I just find it funny how KARMA got him back for him not being honest with his “accurate record”. If he included juice in his total I wouldn’t be calling him out or even laughing  and now he is at -11 units to start the year WITH his average -103 vig

his sister won it last year, it runs in his family, hes likin saints tonite

You made your point bro 

Let's just concentrate in getting some winners vs. just putting up stuff that does not contribute in any way.   

Trust me, Van will be back strong even with all the trolls and clowns on here 

@DW7

 This does contribute though, I post an actual HONEST record for him so everyone can see what their actual total is if they tail him.

As you can see, karma bit him in the ass yesterday after I called him out and he still lists a fake record 

Just FYI....

Yesterday...  My final numbers for vig on the four games I posted at the lines I posted...

Lions -4 -103.65
Bears +2.5 -100.25
Broncos -3.5 -101.70
Giants -4 +102.625
Chargers -2.5 -102

Those are actual, but not all inclusive.  I typically end up with several lines for a given side at kickoff.  I buy and sell all week.  So the lines you see above are just for those lines posted, not for any alternative lines that I end up with during the week.

Line shopping and juice reduction strategies are a huge part of what I do.  It allows me to go 0-5 and survive.  I am a grinder.  I look for repeatable processes that I can do in volume.  That eliminates short term variance.

I always say that handicapping is probably one of the least important things you can do if you want to make money sports gambling.  Yes, in the end you need something that is going to break 50%, but like a lot of life - it is a lot easier to save a dollar than to make a dollar - and most sports gamblers spend a ton of time handicapping and no time value shopping or using juice reduction strategies.

This is my small real estate in the sports gambling market.  I dont expect to go 60%+ every season.  But I do expect to be profitable - and have been for many years without fail.

Happy to discuss.

@spicycurry

 This forum was designed to help each other, share information about the games. Some people have more insight, some less time, so it's a great opportunity to hopefully find or offer something that may be an advantage in a particular game. That's it, like DW said, you made your point, past time to move on. Let's focus on offering something, anything that might help someone out there win a couple bucks. I looked at your posts, didn't see one thing this football season that fits that, they're pretty much all aimed at Van, and there's alot of them. Let it go, tell us who and why one team will win tonight, or maybe a sharp prop play that's out there. Something to help someone better determine the outcome. That's what the forum is for, to share, to help. Let's stick to that. Best of luck to you and post a play for God's sake, I'll be looking forward to it!

@spicycurry

 No. You really are not helping at all. Doing this makes you feel special. Do you notice no one comes to your defense? So his "vig" may be off? I could care effing less. We all get different lines and vigs for plays

Give it a rest. 

@vanzack

 Appreciate this post, but tell me how does that help everyone else who gets the common juice of -105 to -110? Might as well just not post a record without vig then. I’m tracking based on the average vig -103 you told me so that’s easier for everyone else that follows to keep track of closer to their betting

@mrusso

 This is fair, but why can’t we discuss AND also keep an honest accurate record with vig? It’s not like one can discuss and just post fake records

Im glad you asked...

Because I am not doing anything proprietary or special.  Thats how it helps.  When you see these websites that help people save money on their daily shopping, or even retirement planning - do you say the same thing?

It is a world that is very regularly ignored, but very important.

Also - just curious - when people here post a "8-6" type of record, are you also policing them to post "8-6.6"?  If not, why just me?  Look - there are a lot of quotes out there about fans and stalkers.  I like Deions "if you aint poppin, you got no haters" or "whether you love me or hate me, if you post about me - you are still a fan".

I can go on like this forever.  You arent bothering me as long as you follow the rules.  When you start cluttering my threads, you will be no more.  I hold the scissors that cut the thin thread you are hanging on.  And I use them whenever I want.  Dont forget that.

@nmgolf57

 I’m not even hating on him, just want him to post an honest accurate record with vig. Most people get -110 vig but we are being generous with his stated -103 vig which is better than his fake record with no juice 

Also - just curious - when people here post a "8-6" type of record, are you also policing them to post "8-6.6"?  If not, why just me?

@vanzack

 When people post their 8-6 record, thats not technically lying because people can account vig themselves. So why don’t you do that? Like I just don’t get the point of you posting a record with no vig, might as well just not post the record at all to keep everything honest?

I mean I’ve seen you get on people for lying about inflated lines or getting the hook. I just don’t see how a record without vig is any different

appreciate your response by the way

 #89 & #90 

@spicycurry

 Exactly as Van says, why are you not in every single thread correcting the vig? 

@vanzack

 Because that’s technically not lying, that’s their number of picks correct and number of picks wrong. Why don’t you do that then instead of misleading with your “accurate record”? I’m really not calling you out for no reason, besides the record without vig, really got no problems with ya. And yes 0-5 happens and I’m sure you’ll bounce back! Not even getting on you for that