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    So The Man, The Myth, The LEGEND is covering up with his Crypto success? I see nothing wrong with people that defend or debate this topic, BitCoin is MONEY! For now.... get in during the Trump BUMP! The failure of his betting season is sad.... talks BIG TIME, like to pick on the weak, if you do not follow his fan club, you will be smashed! If we find the weakest capper right now, he might be doing better than this dude. Cold runs... everyone get those like a bad cold! Switching up after those HARD TALKS, only The Man, The Myth, The LEGEND can do that and still have a strong following. 

    To me the worse capper here is LuckyGuy, and he is having a much better season than you are, which is really saying something! 

    What really hurt is Process > Result then after a 1-6 week with all that talk you switched up and got burned! Not what a true capper does!

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    So The Man, The Myth, The LEGEND is covering up with his Crypto success? I see nothing wrong with people that defend or debate this topic, BitCoin is MONEY! For now.... get in during the Trump BUMP! The failure of his betting season is sad.... talks BIG TIME, like to pick on the weak, if you do not follow his fan club, you will be smashed! If we find the weakest capper right now, he might be doing better than this dude. Cold runs... everyone get those like a bad cold! Switching up after those HARD TALKS, only The Man, The Myth, The LEGEND can do that and still have a strong following. 

    To me the worse capper here is LuckyGuy, and he is having a much better season than you are, which is really saying something! 

    What really hurt is Process > Result then after a 1-6 week with all that talk you switched up and got burned! Not what a true capper does!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2024 - 5:58 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by BET2WIN4:

    So The Man, The Myth, The LEGEND is covering up with his Crypto success? I see nothing wrong with people that defend or debate this topic, BitCoin is MONEY! For now.... get in during the Trump BUMP! The failure of his betting season is sad.... talks BIG TIME, like to pick on the weak, if you do not follow his fan club, you will be smashed! If we find the weakest capper right now, he might be doing better than this dude. Cold runs... everyone get those like a bad cold! Switching up after those HARD TALKS, only The Man, The Myth, The LEGEND can do that and still have a strong following.  To me the worse capper here is LuckyGuy, and he is having a much better season than you are, which is really saying something!  What really hurt is Process > Result then after a 1-6 week with all that talk you switched up and got burned! Not what a true capper does!

    I did a detailed writeup that he is on the wrong path and needs to step back a bit but as we all know, there is no one more stubborn than a gambler on a losing streak. 

    Self-reliance is more important than artificial intelligence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BET2WIN4:

    So The Man, The Myth, The LEGEND is covering up with his Crypto success? I see nothing wrong with people that defend or debate this topic, BitCoin is MONEY! For now.... get in during the Trump BUMP! The failure of his betting season is sad.... talks BIG TIME, like to pick on the weak, if you do not follow his fan club, you will be smashed! If we find the weakest capper right now, he might be doing better than this dude. Cold runs... everyone get those like a bad cold! Switching up after those HARD TALKS, only The Man, The Myth, The LEGEND can do that and still have a strong following.  To me the worse capper here is LuckyGuy, and he is having a much better season than you are, which is really saying something!  What really hurt is Process > Result then after a 1-6 week with all that talk you switched up and got burned! Not what a true capper does!

    I did a detailed writeup that he is on the wrong path and needs to step back a bit but as we all know, there is no one more stubborn than a gambler on a losing streak. 

     
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     Hey my brother/my gambling addict, please recognize that the gambling landscape has changed dramatically since it was legalized in most states. Us old timers need to ADJUST. And please keep in mind the definition of insanity. Peace Out. I wish you good fortune going forward 

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     Hey my brother/my gambling addict, please recognize that the gambling landscape has changed dramatically since it was legalized in most states. Us old timers need to ADJUST. And please keep in mind the definition of insanity. Peace Out. I wish you good fortune going forward 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    @MRxKrazz Pretty simple answer and no need to embellish.... I have zigged when I should have zagged, and zagged when I should have zigged - and zigged or zagged when I shouldnt have done either. It is pretty obvious.  This week I moved model settings to allow more favs, because of 9 weeks of favs being shaded - and this week dogs dominate.  Zigged, when should have remained on course.  Chasing ghosts. As far as the vanzack you want...  What about what I want?  Ever think of the toll this puts on me?  Its like I wrote all of that earlier in this thread - and you dont even acknowledge that I am doing this for free and it would have to benefit me to do it - and you just ask again?  It is kind of sociopathic behavior on your part.  If you were my customer?  Sure, I get it.   So if I feel like doing stuff on here I do it.  I recently have had a 24/7 boner because of bitcoin.  Sometimes, I get boners for other reasons.  I tried to explain why giving all the ins and outs of every pick has become less fun for me - but you read right over it and simply demanded the dancing monkey to dance. Think about it.

     

    PROCESS > RESULT an_lightliean_lightliean_light

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    @MRxKrazz Pretty simple answer and no need to embellish.... I have zigged when I should have zagged, and zagged when I should have zigged - and zigged or zagged when I shouldnt have done either. It is pretty obvious.  This week I moved model settings to allow more favs, because of 9 weeks of favs being shaded - and this week dogs dominate.  Zigged, when should have remained on course.  Chasing ghosts. As far as the vanzack you want...  What about what I want?  Ever think of the toll this puts on me?  Its like I wrote all of that earlier in this thread - and you dont even acknowledge that I am doing this for free and it would have to benefit me to do it - and you just ask again?  It is kind of sociopathic behavior on your part.  If you were my customer?  Sure, I get it.   So if I feel like doing stuff on here I do it.  I recently have had a 24/7 boner because of bitcoin.  Sometimes, I get boners for other reasons.  I tried to explain why giving all the ins and outs of every pick has become less fun for me - but you read right over it and simply demanded the dancing monkey to dance. Think about it.

     

    PROCESS > RESULT an_lightliean_lightliean_light

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    @MRxKrazz Well written post. Gotta give you credit where credit is due. I'm going to be straight with you because I feel like you put time into that and are being straight with me.... I've been doing this at covers in one way or another for about 25 years. Before the last 5 years or so, there were lots of things we take for granted now that were arguments on covers. We used to debate things like key numbers, is juice important, martingale systems, just elementary shit. And now the sports gambling population has a certain base education that it didn't have before.  I mentioned that because it's an example of the evolution, or the learning, that has greatly benefited me personally and one of the reasons I still post here. I have learned so much from being on covers. It's almost sad to me what the site has become, because it wasn't ever like this. It wasn't a pick or handicapping based site, there was a lot of theory and sometimes stupid discussions about everything having to do with sports betting. At some point covers decided to take a turn and dedicate itself towards more handicapping. So today's version of covers really doesn't fit what I can do a good job of providing. I think I'd be a great teacher of gambling studies, but it's hard to make a write-up that is true and not just a narrative of 100 plus plays a year in the NFL. It's just not what I do well, partly because I don't believe there is value in it... Because if my model says the ram should be a four-point favorite over the dolphins and therefore a 2 and 1/2 point spread means a three-unit play, reduced by a half unit because of my current form, That's not typically what people want to hear around here.  But that's the truth. The Rams in my model were 4 Tonight, The dolphins have a lot of negative indicators in this game mainly on the defensive side, and therefore it's a two and a half point play.  I have about 60,000 posts here over the years, and I would say 55,000 of them were before 3 or 4 years ago. I don't get the enjoyment I used to get in debating the intricacies of the week to week NFL, because most people here bet differently than I do. There have been a very select few that have engaged me on the things that I have brought up that I do. Things like modeling, statistics, traction reports, adjusted stats, things like that. That's boring stuff.  So yeah, the old vanzack would write up long narratives supporting my position, but it became a situation where the more talented debater would win those discussions rather than the content of what was written. I don't like that, and I don't think it's productive, and I think write-ups often detract from better results because they are so enticing.
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    @MRxKrazz Well written post. Gotta give you credit where credit is due. I'm going to be straight with you because I feel like you put time into that and are being straight with me.... I've been doing this at covers in one way or another for about 25 years. Before the last 5 years or so, there were lots of things we take for granted now that were arguments on covers. We used to debate things like key numbers, is juice important, martingale systems, just elementary shit. And now the sports gambling population has a certain base education that it didn't have before.  I mentioned that because it's an example of the evolution, or the learning, that has greatly benefited me personally and one of the reasons I still post here. I have learned so much from being on covers. It's almost sad to me what the site has become, because it wasn't ever like this. It wasn't a pick or handicapping based site, there was a lot of theory and sometimes stupid discussions about everything having to do with sports betting. At some point covers decided to take a turn and dedicate itself towards more handicapping. So today's version of covers really doesn't fit what I can do a good job of providing. I think I'd be a great teacher of gambling studies, but it's hard to make a write-up that is true and not just a narrative of 100 plus plays a year in the NFL. It's just not what I do well, partly because I don't believe there is value in it... Because if my model says the ram should be a four-point favorite over the dolphins and therefore a 2 and 1/2 point spread means a three-unit play, reduced by a half unit because of my current form, That's not typically what people want to hear around here.  But that's the truth. The Rams in my model were 4 Tonight, The dolphins have a lot of negative indicators in this game mainly on the defensive side, and therefore it's a two and a half point play.  I have about 60,000 posts here over the years, and I would say 55,000 of them were before 3 or 4 years ago. I don't get the enjoyment I used to get in debating the intricacies of the week to week NFL, because most people here bet differently than I do. There have been a very select few that have engaged me on the things that I have brought up that I do. Things like modeling, statistics, traction reports, adjusted stats, things like that. That's boring stuff.  So yeah, the old vanzack would write up long narratives supporting my position, but it became a situation where the more talented debater would win those discussions rather than the content of what was written. I don't like that, and I don't think it's productive, and I think write-ups often detract from better results because they are so enticing.
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