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    MNF - Ravens / Chargers...

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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2024 - 3:26 PM ET #1

    NFL Season Record -24.5 units
    MNF

    *  Ravens -2.75 (2 units)

    I am on an extended losing streak.  Just consider me a free voice on the internet - you submit a bet - your choice. I keep doing my best.

    GL all

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    NFL Season Record -24.5 units
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    *  Ravens -2.75 (2 units)

    I am on an extended losing streak.  Just consider me a free voice on the internet - you submit a bet - your choice. I keep doing my best.

    GL all

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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2024 - 3:28 PM ET #2

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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2024 - 3:38 PM ET #3

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     Same side, Vanz. Good luck. peace_5

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     Same side, Vanz. Good luck. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2024 - 3:54 PM ET #4

    Take a breather and refocus

    Don't let Covers sink your battleship

    There is no 100% cappers in the world
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    Take a breather and refocus

    Don't let Covers sink your battleship

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2024 - 3:56 PM ET #5

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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2024 - 3:57 PM ET #6

    https://clutchpoints.com/ravens-news-baltimore-dealt-crushing-roquan-smith-injury-update-chargers-clash

    Big loss against a team that runs first.

    Super interesting dynamic in this matchup when it comes to coaching as well. Greg Roman was the coordinator in Baltimore for ever, and landed there the year after they drafted Lamar. He may know his tendencies better than anyone. 

    I don't know how this game ends. It should be a banger from start to finish. The playoff seeding for both teams are huge here, as the Ravens chase the Steelers, and the Chargers try to stay in shouting distance from the Chiefs.

    Best of luck Van peace_5

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    https://clutchpoints.com/ravens-news-baltimore-dealt-crushing-roquan-smith-injury-update-chargers-clash

    Big loss against a team that runs first.

    Super interesting dynamic in this matchup when it comes to coaching as well. Greg Roman was the coordinator in Baltimore for ever, and landed there the year after they drafted Lamar. He may know his tendencies better than anyone. 

    I don't know how this game ends. It should be a banger from start to finish. The playoff seeding for both teams are huge here, as the Ravens chase the Steelers, and the Chargers try to stay in shouting distance from the Chiefs.

    Best of luck Van peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2024 - 4:13 PM ET #7

    Thanks for sharing Van the man!

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    Thanks for sharing Van the man!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2024 - 4:24 PM ET #8

    I bleed purple n black.....cool

    I wouldnt bet them without Roquan with found money.....an_nailbiter

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    I bleed purple n black.....cool

    I wouldnt bet them without Roquan with found money.....an_nailbiter

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2024 - 4:26 PM ET #9

    it’s not easy to be 30-12 up 15 units but it’s also not easy to be 12-13 games below even and have a -35 units count. Around 40% is where most bettors end up sitting around. Saw on X someone saying Vanz was bought out by the books. Interesting thoughts there considering your picks aren’t what they use to be and the crap games you pick every week. The 80+ hours to come up with the Bears, Raiders, Colts and Titians is hard to figure out, what’s stats did you really come up with in those matchups? The sack pressure rate or any numbers really favor those 4 teams in their games. I also joined 4C the exchange site, I am not seeing the no juice bet options. The best I saw was -104 but most times it was just a little cheaper than most offshore sites, I can post my own line then create my own juice but no one ever took my offering that resulted in me not having to juice.

    i like the Ravens tonight too, BOL!

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    it’s not easy to be 30-12 up 15 units but it’s also not easy to be 12-13 games below even and have a -35 units count. Around 40% is where most bettors end up sitting around. Saw on X someone saying Vanz was bought out by the books. Interesting thoughts there considering your picks aren’t what they use to be and the crap games you pick every week. The 80+ hours to come up with the Bears, Raiders, Colts and Titians is hard to figure out, what’s stats did you really come up with in those matchups? The sack pressure rate or any numbers really favor those 4 teams in their games. I also joined 4C the exchange site, I am not seeing the no juice bet options. The best I saw was -104 but most times it was just a little cheaper than most offshore sites, I can post my own line then create my own juice but no one ever took my offering that resulted in me not having to juice.

    i like the Ravens tonight too, BOL!

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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2024 - 4:40 PM ET #10

    I like it. I see La La Land going down for the second straight prime time game peace_5

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    I like it. I see La La Land going down for the second straight prime time game peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2024 - 4:43 PM ET #11

    @MRxKrazz

    Of all the stupid nonsense that you post, there's only one part of it that I'm going to respond to and it's a matter of fact...

    4C has one cent spreads on almost every NFL game. Sometimes it's .1. 

    There is Shadow money, big institutional money, that is lurking behind the scenes. I can tell you that it is the only place right now that you can get 100k down on any NFL side at close to zero juice. 

    If you're too dopey to figure that out, it's not my job to show you how to do it. All I can tell you is every major serious better is there, and every major serious sports book is there. All looking for liquidity, laying off one-sided action, All at extremely tight spreads. 

    If that's not what you experienced, I suggest you wait and learn. Maybe your $20 offer that is five cents off current numbers isn't attractive enough to get picked up, but I can assure you that there is no better liquidity and no better visibility than what you have there.

    It is just so dopey to say you couldn't get filled at -104. Maybe the real line was -115? Or maybe the real line was -110, but the point is the other side is + 103 so over the long run when you are betting into one cent spreads some are going to be -104 and some are going to be plus 103 but you're only laying on average very close to no juuce.

    Not hard to understand for every professional Gambler out there. Very hard to understand for you, which doesn't surprise me in the least. 

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    @MRxKrazz

    Of all the stupid nonsense that you post, there's only one part of it that I'm going to respond to and it's a matter of fact...

    4C has one cent spreads on almost every NFL game. Sometimes it's .1. 

    There is Shadow money, big institutional money, that is lurking behind the scenes. I can tell you that it is the only place right now that you can get 100k down on any NFL side at close to zero juice. 

    If you're too dopey to figure that out, it's not my job to show you how to do it. All I can tell you is every major serious better is there, and every major serious sports book is there. All looking for liquidity, laying off one-sided action, All at extremely tight spreads. 

    If that's not what you experienced, I suggest you wait and learn. Maybe your $20 offer that is five cents off current numbers isn't attractive enough to get picked up, but I can assure you that there is no better liquidity and no better visibility than what you have there.

    It is just so dopey to say you couldn't get filled at -104. Maybe the real line was -115? Or maybe the real line was -110, but the point is the other side is + 103 so over the long run when you are betting into one cent spreads some are going to be -104 and some are going to be plus 103 but you're only laying on average very close to no juuce.

    Not hard to understand for every professional Gambler out there. Very hard to understand for you, which doesn't surprise me in the least. 

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2024 - 4:44 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by KingScorpio:

    Take a breather and refocus Don't let Covers sink your battleship

    Never!

    I have a fleet of battleships. All bought and paid for. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingScorpio:

    Take a breather and refocus Don't let Covers sink your battleship

    Never!

    I have a fleet of battleships. All bought and paid for. 

    GL

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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2024 - 4:47 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:

    I bleed purple n black..... I wouldnt bet them without Roquan with found money.....

    Do NOT waver my Baltimore Brother. La La Land takes another hit tonight 

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:

    I bleed purple n black..... I wouldnt bet them without Roquan with found money.....

    Do NOT waver my Baltimore Brother. La La Land takes another hit tonight 

     
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    And I'm sure your little mind can't even wrap around the idea of how easy it is to trade and be profitable when the market has .1 cent spreads. 

    If all you did was trade, but never ended up with a side, it doesn't take much talent to make money with zero risk with this kind of tool. I realize this will go way over your head, but believe me there's a lot of people doing it.

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    And I'm sure your little mind can't even wrap around the idea of how easy it is to trade and be profitable when the market has .1 cent spreads. 

    If all you did was trade, but never ended up with a side, it doesn't take much talent to make money with zero risk with this kind of tool. I realize this will go way over your head, but believe me there's a lot of people doing it.

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2024 - 5:01 PM ET #15

    VZ peaceclover

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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2024 - 5:54 PM ET #16

    Now it’s stupid? Like I said CLEARLY I am on 4C, their line is no better than most sports book, is it cheaper? Yes! But not by much, the no juice stuff isn’t there! Just admit it, anyone can join and I’m looking at the board as I type right now!

    you can clown $20 the suppose bet you put me on, you are excellent with words. How about the 200k you bet? Or do you even bet?

    maybe you should start a thread about trading! You have been hiding behind every question I have for you! Good job on picking and choosing! Everything you have said you do not hold up on, Process > results, did you not admit to me you switched up without telling your following? 

    I normally do not shit on a bad streak, but in the past few weeks you have answered enough of your own BS! You don’t have time and won’t type up what made you legendary here but have time to type up everything else? 

    here it is for all you guys out there, everything have a price, this dude sold out, his picks do have a high following, books want to control this type of stuff. The main reason behind his downfall is because he is that good! 80+ hours a week and he bets on teams like the Raiders, Colts, Tatians, Bears without a reason! Guess why? He have time to type up all these BTC stuff but not the games? For someone as good and for someone that use to speak football like it was his life, doesn’t take much to figure out what’s going on! 

    For those that been brain washed by him, when he first started posting here, he was a clown! A real legend don’t need to self promote! 

    I might get a lot of hate for this, but you guys think it thru, 80+ hours a week, the four teams he took on Sunday have what trend, stats, major injury to sound the alarm? and he been doing this all season long! Taking non division rivals matchups makes no sense, the week he took the Panthers in Denver he spoke of pass rush and sack rates! Why panthers then?

    last …. If trading is the money maker! Please teach and enlighten us instead of these horrible picks all season! Or just man up that you throwing out losers on purpose because you signed that deal! I’ll give you a high five and tell you boy you did it!! Every man’s dream!!

    cool 

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    Now it’s stupid? Like I said CLEARLY I am on 4C, their line is no better than most sports book, is it cheaper? Yes! But not by much, the no juice stuff isn’t there! Just admit it, anyone can join and I’m looking at the board as I type right now!

    you can clown $20 the suppose bet you put me on, you are excellent with words. How about the 200k you bet? Or do you even bet?

    maybe you should start a thread about trading! You have been hiding behind every question I have for you! Good job on picking and choosing! Everything you have said you do not hold up on, Process > results, did you not admit to me you switched up without telling your following? 

    I normally do not shit on a bad streak, but in the past few weeks you have answered enough of your own BS! You don’t have time and won’t type up what made you legendary here but have time to type up everything else? 

    here it is for all you guys out there, everything have a price, this dude sold out, his picks do have a high following, books want to control this type of stuff. The main reason behind his downfall is because he is that good! 80+ hours a week and he bets on teams like the Raiders, Colts, Tatians, Bears without a reason! Guess why? He have time to type up all these BTC stuff but not the games? For someone as good and for someone that use to speak football like it was his life, doesn’t take much to figure out what’s going on! 

    For those that been brain washed by him, when he first started posting here, he was a clown! A real legend don’t need to self promote! 

    I might get a lot of hate for this, but you guys think it thru, 80+ hours a week, the four teams he took on Sunday have what trend, stats, major injury to sound the alarm? and he been doing this all season long! Taking non division rivals matchups makes no sense, the week he took the Panthers in Denver he spoke of pass rush and sack rates! Why panthers then?

    last …. If trading is the money maker! Please teach and enlighten us instead of these horrible picks all season! Or just man up that you throwing out losers on purpose because you signed that deal! I’ll give you a high five and tell you boy you did it!! Every man’s dream!!

    cool 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2024 - 6:01 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by KingScorpio:

    Take a breather and refocus Don't let Covers sink your battleship
    Do you really think this can possibly sink Mansack's Battleship? Comon!!! All this is just another stat at the end of a season for him. Good years, bad years...Nature of the beast..Keep firing SackMan!!! peace_5 reallyhappy

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingScorpio:

    Take a breather and refocus Don't let Covers sink your battleship
    Do you really think this can possibly sink Mansack's Battleship? Comon!!! All this is just another stat at the end of a season for him. Good years, bad years...Nature of the beast..Keep firing SackMan!!! peace_5 reallyhappy

     
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    Only a losing skid in the NFL, but not in life bruthapeace_5

     

    The NFL has been a bit tricky this year so stay the course.....peace_5

     

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    Only a losing skid in the NFL, but not in life bruthapeace_5

     

    The NFL has been a bit tricky this year so stay the course.....peace_5

     

    It'll turn for ya and don't mind these naysaying rodents up in yo threads, they cheese be bad an_light

     
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    Again, you seem to have all the answers except when it comes to posting winners. You should really consider taking a weekend off because it is just not happening for you right now. 

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    Again, you seem to have all the answers except when it comes to posting winners. You should really consider taking a weekend off because it is just not happening for you right now. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues:

    Again, you seem to have all the answers except when it comes to posting winners. You should really consider taking a weekend off because it is just not happening for you right now.
    I am a curious type of bloke by nature ...  So part of me asks this question are you fading Van.. ?.....  Van gl tonight I have no helpful advice to contribute... On side note love the Ravens in this spot.. GL...peace_5

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues:

    Again, you seem to have all the answers except when it comes to posting winners. You should really consider taking a weekend off because it is just not happening for you right now.
    I am a curious type of bloke by nature ...  So part of me asks this question are you fading Van.. ?.....  Van gl tonight I have no helpful advice to contribute... On side note love the Ravens in this spot.. GL...peace_5

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    it’s not easy to be 30-12 up 15 units but it’s also not easy to be 12-13 games below even and have a -35 units count. Around 40% is where most bettors end up sitting around. Saw on X someone saying Vanz was bought out by the books. Interesting thoughts there considering your picks aren’t what they use to be and the crap games you pick every week. The 80+ hours to come up with the Bears, Raiders, Colts and Titians is hard to figure out, what’s stats did you really come up with in those matchups? The sack pressure rate or any numbers really favor those 4 teams in their games. I also joined 4C the exchange site, I am not seeing the no juice bet options. The best I saw was -104 but most times it was just a little cheaper than most offshore sites, I can post my own line then create my own juice but no one ever took my offering that resulted in me not having to juice. i like the Ravens tonight too, BOL!
     

    The Bears and Titans covered, Titans won outright and the Raiders had the ball on the Bronco one yard line for the back door cover and Desmond Ridder in for the injured Minshew manages to get sacked with less than 20 seconds left and time ran out, should have been 3-1 on the day and yes I had the Raiders too and the Bears. Going against the Lions well, we all make bad picks, it happens to the best of us.

    I'm on the Ravens also, -2.5, we got this Van.peace_5

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    it’s not easy to be 30-12 up 15 units but it’s also not easy to be 12-13 games below even and have a -35 units count. Around 40% is where most bettors end up sitting around. Saw on X someone saying Vanz was bought out by the books. Interesting thoughts there considering your picks aren’t what they use to be and the crap games you pick every week. The 80+ hours to come up with the Bears, Raiders, Colts and Titians is hard to figure out, what’s stats did you really come up with in those matchups? The sack pressure rate or any numbers really favor those 4 teams in their games. I also joined 4C the exchange site, I am not seeing the no juice bet options. The best I saw was -104 but most times it was just a little cheaper than most offshore sites, I can post my own line then create my own juice but no one ever took my offering that resulted in me not having to juice. i like the Ravens tonight too, BOL!
     

    The Bears and Titans covered, Titans won outright and the Raiders had the ball on the Bronco one yard line for the back door cover and Desmond Ridder in for the injured Minshew manages to get sacked with less than 20 seconds left and time ran out, should have been 3-1 on the day and yes I had the Raiders too and the Bears. Going against the Lions well, we all make bad picks, it happens to the best of us.

    I'm on the Ravens also, -2.5, we got this Van.peace_5

     
     
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    @Vanzack,

    Have you considered your results are now resulting in "high variance" instead of "variance"?   Your results are no longer landing in the "mean" which should be within the meat of a standard bell curve.  Your bell curve is more or less, shallow now ... not like a pretty bell, but like a mound ... if you know what I mean (no pun intended).  If I were you, my 2024 NFL betting objective is no longer to make a profit, instead it would be to determine if the selection process still works (1).  The second objective would be to maximize your risk management (2).  Kill two birds with one stone.  Continue your process (1) but lower your units (2) substantially.  Do quarter units with maybe 1 unit being a big bet (4 units was it?).  The remaining weeks in the regular schedule and the playoffs should give you enough data points to determine if your process is broken (high variance) or if it's simply variance.  In the meantime, you've managed your downside risk.  You can go into the 2025 NFL season with a clear game plan once you get a better idea of what you're dealing with minimal risk.  I'm rooting for you, but I'm seeing something with your results I haven't seen before ... something is clearly off brutha.  Good luck to you.  May the force come back to you!!!

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    Have you considered your results are now resulting in "high variance" instead of "variance"?   Your results are no longer landing in the "mean" which should be within the meat of a standard bell curve.  Your bell curve is more or less, shallow now ... not like a pretty bell, but like a mound ... if you know what I mean (no pun intended).  If I were you, my 2024 NFL betting objective is no longer to make a profit, instead it would be to determine if the selection process still works (1).  The second objective would be to maximize your risk management (2).  Kill two birds with one stone.  Continue your process (1) but lower your units (2) substantially.  Do quarter units with maybe 1 unit being a big bet (4 units was it?).  The remaining weeks in the regular schedule and the playoffs should give you enough data points to determine if your process is broken (high variance) or if it's simply variance.  In the meantime, you've managed your downside risk.  You can go into the 2025 NFL season with a clear game plan once you get a better idea of what you're dealing with minimal risk.  I'm rooting for you, but I'm seeing something with your results I haven't seen before ... something is clearly off brutha.  Good luck to you.  May the force come back to you!!!

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