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Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyThree: @vanzack  Giants should have covered. A punt return td was the difference. And many inexcusable mistakes by nyg offense late, dropping a simple, wide open 3rd down pass for a massive gain in Pitt territory. special Eli.2 making mistake after mistake and then overthrowing his wr by 10 yards to Pittsburgh at the end to lose the backdoor. Prime time games get silly sometimes, but I believe your data had the right side. appreciate your picks and know that a big week is ahead Don't you factor in special teams when capping a game? It's the reason the Chiefs beat the 49ers in the Super Bowl last year.
You can factor in whos better overall, but predicting punt returns is impossible (kickoff returns are probably gonna be super rare with new rules.) Also, its not the reason KC won. Its because the Chiefs never get called for holding and Shanahan is a total fool once the 4th quarter starts in any big game.....

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Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyThree: @vanzack  Giants should have covered. A punt return td was the difference. And many inexcusable mistakes by nyg offense late, dropping a simple, wide open 3rd down pass for a massive gain in Pitt territory. special Eli.2 making mistake after mistake and then overthrowing his wr by 10 yards to Pittsburgh at the end to lose the backdoor. Prime time games get silly sometimes, but I believe your data had the right side. appreciate your picks and know that a big week is ahead Don't you factor in special teams when capping a game? It's the reason the Chiefs beat the 49ers in the Super Bowl last year.
You can factor in whos better overall, but predicting punt returns is impossible (kickoff returns are probably gonna be super rare with new rules.) Also, its not the reason KC won. Its because the Chiefs never get called for holding and Shanahan is a total fool once the 4th quarter starts in any big game.....

 
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

Quote Originally Posted by TJZags598: @vanzack  I respect the work you put in.  I lurk, i also consider your perspective. I bet we would have some conversations about football.   Basic question: Do you think all the time you put in is worth it? Great question. I think there is diminishing returns at work here.  I think 10 hours is where I get 75% done, and the other 70 hours are 25%.  But I am an obsessive person, and if I miss a line move because I wasn't paying attention it kills me. It is only 5 months a year, then for 3 months (soccer Feb - May) it is 10 hours - then summers are free. So overall - it is better than a 9-5.  And for me, I have come to accept it is all or nothing.  Character flaw.
I think you are leaving out something one cant put value on.....the entertainment/enjoyment/hobby aspect (whatever you wanna call it). If it didn't appeal to some part of your brain you wouldn't do it or spend time on it. What else would you do with those hours and would you enjoy it as much? Its easy to see a win/loss record and assume more wins = more enjoyment.....but entertainment "value" is unquantifiable .....

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Quote Originally Posted by TJZags598: @vanzack  I respect the work you put in.  I lurk, i also consider your perspective. I bet we would have some conversations about football.   Basic question: Do you think all the time you put in is worth it? Great question. I think there is diminishing returns at work here.  I think 10 hours is where I get 75% done, and the other 70 hours are 25%.  But I am an obsessive person, and if I miss a line move because I wasn't paying attention it kills me. It is only 5 months a year, then for 3 months (soccer Feb - May) it is 10 hours - then summers are free. So overall - it is better than a 9-5.  And for me, I have come to accept it is all or nothing.  Character flaw.
I think you are leaving out something one cant put value on.....the entertainment/enjoyment/hobby aspect (whatever you wanna call it). If it didn't appeal to some part of your brain you wouldn't do it or spend time on it. What else would you do with those hours and would you enjoy it as much? Its easy to see a win/loss record and assume more wins = more enjoyment.....but entertainment "value" is unquantifiable .....

 
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Posted: Oct. 30, 2024 - 7:19 AM ET #103

 

 Yah never get called for holding. Especially in slow motion. 

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 Yah never get called for holding. Especially in slow motion. 

 
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Posted: Oct. 30, 2024 - 6:20 PM ET #104

Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues - You've been very unlucky. In other words, you should never lose. Wow.[/Quote:

I'm really looking forward to your picks now, since your unluckiness is bound to change.

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Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues - You've been very unlucky. In other words, you should never lose. Wow.[/Quote:

I'm really looking forward to your picks now, since your unluckiness is bound to change.

 
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Another Primetime bites the dust...others game better.

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Quote Originally Posted by jpot34: @ActionMagnet  Any crypto will never have the staying power of physical gold and silver in your hands. It is not a digit on a computer. You do not need electricity to keep it. Any computer crime and your crypto disappears. Gold and silver hidden in the great outdoors is almost impossible to steal. With all the hacking going on, electric grid going down in various segments of the USA, I wish you luck over the next 5 years. I disagree. Can you carry 5 million dollars worth of gold in your luggage? how are you trading gold? I can send anyone in the world 5M worth of Bitcoin in 5 seconds. The future is digitial once the boomers have passed.

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Quote Originally Posted by jpot34: @ActionMagnet  Any crypto will never have the staying power of physical gold and silver in your hands. It is not a digit on a computer. You do not need electricity to keep it. Any computer crime and your crypto disappears. Gold and silver hidden in the great outdoors is almost impossible to steal. With all the hacking going on, electric grid going down in various segments of the USA, I wish you luck over the next 5 years. I disagree. Can you carry 5 million dollars worth of gold in your luggage? how are you trading gold? I can send anyone in the world 5M worth of Bitcoin in 5 seconds. The future is digitial once the boomers have passed.

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NO BET ON JETS / TEXANS

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NO BET ON JETS / TEXANS

GL to all

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@vanzack

 This year these lines seem absurd to me.

 

The Texans look to be a TD better than the hapless Jets at this point. I am tired of waiting on Aaron, he is almost 40 and running the whole show. 

 

I think we are expecting the 34 year-old version of old number 12?

 

I may hate myself in the morning as I normally would take the Jets on the absurdity of this line but give me the kid and the better team.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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 This year these lines seem absurd to me.

 

The Texans look to be a TD better than the hapless Jets at this point. I am tired of waiting on Aaron, he is almost 40 and running the whole show. 

 

I think we are expecting the 34 year-old version of old number 12?

 

I may hate myself in the morning as I normally would take the Jets on the absurdity of this line but give me the kid and the better team.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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@Crusher13 It is totally characteristic for me.  There isnt a possibility I would be on the Steelers tonight.  This is exactly who I am - no fortune tellers involved. TJ Watt is on a defense that is 25th in the NFL in pressure rate.  Why do you think that is?  Because he can be doubled and the rest of the Steelers front cant get to the QB.  So while Daniel Jones is no prize - and you are always taking risks by backing him - with a clean pocket he can produce.  And the Giants should be able to moderately run the ball tonight. What would be uncharacteristic for me would be to lay 6 points in the NFL based on one player.
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@Crusher13 It is totally characteristic for me.  There isnt a possibility I would be on the Steelers tonight.  This is exactly who I am - no fortune tellers involved. TJ Watt is on a defense that is 25th in the NFL in pressure rate.  Why do you think that is?  Because he can be doubled and the rest of the Steelers front cant get to the QB.  So while Daniel Jones is no prize - and you are always taking risks by backing him - with a clean pocket he can produce.  And the Giants should be able to moderately run the ball tonight. What would be uncharacteristic for me would be to lay 6 points in the NFL based on one player.
TELL me u dnt watch FOOLSBALL without tellin me! an_roll_laugh

 
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Quote Originally Posted by TJZags598: @vanzack  I respect the work you put in.  I lurk, i also consider your perspective. I bet we would have some conversations about football.   Basic question: Do you think all the time you put in is worth it? Great question. I think there is diminishing returns at work here.  I think 10 hours is where I get 75% done, and the other 70 hours are 25%.  But I am an obsessive person, and if I miss a line move because I wasn't paying attention it kills me. It is only 5 months a year, then for 3 months (soccer Feb - May) it is 10 hours - then summers are free. So overall - it is better than a 9-5.  And for me, I have come to accept it is all or nothing.  Character flaw.
80 hrs of wrk bt u dnt wana tk bt it? 80hrz of wrk 4 u 2 tlk abt stff u dnt folow urslf ?

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Quote Originally Posted by TJZags598: @vanzack  I respect the work you put in.  I lurk, i also consider your perspective. I bet we would have some conversations about football.   Basic question: Do you think all the time you put in is worth it? Great question. I think there is diminishing returns at work here.  I think 10 hours is where I get 75% done, and the other 70 hours are 25%.  But I am an obsessive person, and if I miss a line move because I wasn't paying attention it kills me. It is only 5 months a year, then for 3 months (soccer Feb - May) it is 10 hours - then summers are free. So overall - it is better than a 9-5.  And for me, I have come to accept it is all or nothing.  Character flaw.
80 hrs of wrk bt u dnt wana tk bt it? 80hrz of wrk 4 u 2 tlk abt stff u dnt folow urslf ?

 
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So far this season, I have been very unlucky.  I dont say that as like "I am so unlucky" - some thought that comes to my head or a feeling - truly statistically unlucky. And games aren't playing out the way they have historically.  When big favs are winning at historical rates - I am always going to be in trouble. The key is how much to adjust, not to overreact - unless necessary - which is a very tough thing to do. I put 80 hours a week in to this during the football season.  I assure you - when someone inevitably posts "did you consider the weather" or "how about TJ Watt" - I have considered it.  The game last night is a great example of "unluck", my backtest shows that not only should the Giants have covered - but there were several key plays that if they didn't happen...  Punt return, many 3rd and longs that were converted - untimely turnovers by the Giants etc.... But that happens.  It is all part of it.  If I was getting my chips in on bad situations it would mean changes should be made.  But so far, I havent for the most part.  So I am reluctant to change course. Being down 12ish units is not that big of a deal.  It should be about 12% of bankroll.  Considering I have averaged about 60 units a season in the green for 7 seasons - would you be quick to change your process after 8 weeks down 12?

 

UNLUCKY? hw cn u evn com up wit dat? all u do iz tak BAD TMZ!!!! if u cn explz ur pikz mayb bt u choz nt 2 cuz u cnt!

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So far this season, I have been very unlucky.  I dont say that as like "I am so unlucky" - some thought that comes to my head or a feeling - truly statistically unlucky. And games aren't playing out the way they have historically.  When big favs are winning at historical rates - I am always going to be in trouble. The key is how much to adjust, not to overreact - unless necessary - which is a very tough thing to do. I put 80 hours a week in to this during the football season.  I assure you - when someone inevitably posts "did you consider the weather" or "how about TJ Watt" - I have considered it.  The game last night is a great example of "unluck", my backtest shows that not only should the Giants have covered - but there were several key plays that if they didn't happen...  Punt return, many 3rd and longs that were converted - untimely turnovers by the Giants etc.... But that happens.  It is all part of it.  If I was getting my chips in on bad situations it would mean changes should be made.  But so far, I havent for the most part.  So I am reluctant to change course. Being down 12ish units is not that big of a deal.  It should be about 12% of bankroll.  Considering I have averaged about 60 units a season in the green for 7 seasons - would you be quick to change your process after 8 weeks down 12?

 

UNLUCKY? hw cn u evn com up wit dat? all u do iz tak BAD TMZ!!!! if u cn explz ur pikz mayb bt u choz nt 2 cuz u cnt!

 
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 Who took the jam out your donut? You really just go back to old treads to bitch? Damn bro, put the bottle down, brush your teeth, take a shower, and get a life. .....

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 Who took the jam out your donut? You really just go back to old treads to bitch? Damn bro, put the bottle down, brush your teeth, take a shower, and get a life. .....

 
 
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