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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2007 - 8:18 AM ET #26

    Yea, I know Adam Vinatieri's sister she lives here in south dakota. she told everone to bet SD ML b/c her brother was going to fix the game by missing the winning FG. Man it's great to know when the fix is in...
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    Yea, I know Adam Vinatieri's sister she lives here in south dakota. she told everone to bet SD ML b/c her brother was going to fix the game by missing the winning FG. Man it's great to know when the fix is in...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2007 - 11:41 AM ET #28

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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2007 - 4:01 PM ET #29

    Lets start by quantifying your statements.  What is your criteria for "weird endings"? 
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    Lets start by quantifying your statements.  What is your criteria for "weird endings"? 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2007 - 4:21 PM ET #30

    we call it "wierd" here, like Germany is wierd
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2007 - 4:21 PM ET #31

    we call it "wierd" here, like Germany is wierd
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2007 - 4:36 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by chasebank0202:

    not just that game
    the pitt game
    as well as the saints game
     
    big public lines no of the teams played anything until 4th
    You may be right..... Of course it may have been that Pitt was a little flat having played Monday Night in a game they have been pointing to all year.. Short week playing a team they POUNDED on the road already this year.. Add on two Kickoff returners for basically 2 TDS..... But hey what you say makes more sense ... Of course why did I not think of the "FIX"... 
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    Quote Originally Posted by chasebank0202:

    not just that game
    the pitt game
    as well as the saints game
     
    big public lines no of the teams played anything until 4th
    You may be right..... Of course it may have been that Pitt was a little flat having played Monday Night in a game they have been pointing to all year.. Short week playing a team they POUNDED on the road already this year.. Add on two Kickoff returners for basically 2 TDS..... But hey what you say makes more sense ... Of course why did I not think of the "FIX"... 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2007 - 4:43 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather16:

    we call it "wierd" here, like Germany is wierd
    That's great, I'm very proud of you.  However, while making several grammatical mistakes of your own, you forgot to answer the question.  Please comply. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather16:

    we call it "wierd" here, like Germany is wierd
    That's great, I'm very proud of you.  However, while making several grammatical mistakes of your own, you forgot to answer the question.  Please comply. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2007 - 4:56 PM ET #34

    No way NFL is fixed.
    Too hard to mastermind such a grand scheme.  too large of an operation, for information not to leak.

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    No way NFL is fixed.
    Too hard to mastermind such a grand scheme.  too large of an operation, for information not to leak.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2007 - 4:59 PM ET #35

    the whole chargers - colts game was bizarre, don't deny it. There were some bad calls and calls that shouldn't have been made. And in the Colts-Pats game, the same thing happened. A few other games, the Pitts-Clev game, the Rams-Saints game, how do the Rams win this game? I am usually on the dogs so I am happy but I can see why guys are questioning some of this stuff.
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    the whole chargers - colts game was bizarre, don't deny it. There were some bad calls and calls that shouldn't have been made. And in the Colts-Pats game, the same thing happened. A few other games, the Pitts-Clev game, the Rams-Saints game, how do the Rams win this game? I am usually on the dogs so I am happy but I can see why guys are questioning some of this stuff.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2007 - 6:58 PM ET #36

    its a conspiracy & the smoking man picks whose in the Super Bowl
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    its a conspiracy & the smoking man picks whose in the Super Bowl
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2007 - 9:17 PM ET #37

    NFL players make too much money to be bought.  Even the mob couldn't come with enough money to make a player jeopardize that kind of earnings potential.  Now an official, (ala NBA) would be quite another story.  Every few years a college BB point shaving scandal comes to light, although I don't think anyone with a shot at the NBA would be that stupid.
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    NFL players make too much money to be bought.  Even the mob couldn't come with enough money to make a player jeopardize that kind of earnings potential.  Now an official, (ala NBA) would be quite another story.  Every few years a college BB point shaving scandal comes to light, although I don't think anyone with a shot at the NBA would be that stupid.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2007 - 9:19 PM ET #38

    Topic: Is the NFL Fixed?
     
    No, but you should be.
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    No, but you should be.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2007 - 11:36 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather16:

    the whole chargers - colts game was bizarre, don't deny it. There were some bad calls and calls that shouldn't have been made. And in the Colts-Pats game, the same thing happened. A few other games, the Pitts-Clev game, the Rams-Saints game, how do the Rams win this game? I am usually on the dogs so I am happy but I can see why guys are questioning some of this stuff.

     

      I don't understand why people would be questioning it.   Like the saying goes, theoretically, any team should be able to beat any other team on any given Sunday.  We tend to forget about that as some teams dominate week after week.  But at the end of the day, you have 11 men lining up against 11 men.   No matter how much they're paid, people are going to make mistakes.  No matter how good they are.  Things happen.  It doesn't take much for a simple play to go drastically wrong.  Or for an official to make a bad call on a bang bang play.  I mean, what'd they do before instant replay?   I'd say we get fairer games now than we ever have.

     I'd be more worried about fixing or cheating at the college level.  Not the NFL.   Do people actually think Manning or Brady could be paid off to throw a game?  Brady's got so much money he's giving up money so they can sign better players.  So does Manning.  It sure as hell isn't about the money anymore for these guys.   Even the officials make a decent salary to the point where I would think none of them would risk their careers or the integrity of the game to get mixed up in the bs. 

      Then, even if there was a corrupt official or two, it still wouldn't gurantee you anything on any given game.  The games that turn into blows, the officials can't do a thing about it.  And you never know for sure which game will be the blow out.  I'm just getting tired of the argument. 

      NO WAY IS IT FIXED.  It's just not feasible no matter how many ways you look at it.   Too many variables involved, even if they wanted to try to fix a game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather16:

    the whole chargers - colts game was bizarre, don't deny it. There were some bad calls and calls that shouldn't have been made. And in the Colts-Pats game, the same thing happened. A few other games, the Pitts-Clev game, the Rams-Saints game, how do the Rams win this game? I am usually on the dogs so I am happy but I can see why guys are questioning some of this stuff.

     

      I don't understand why people would be questioning it.   Like the saying goes, theoretically, any team should be able to beat any other team on any given Sunday.  We tend to forget about that as some teams dominate week after week.  But at the end of the day, you have 11 men lining up against 11 men.   No matter how much they're paid, people are going to make mistakes.  No matter how good they are.  Things happen.  It doesn't take much for a simple play to go drastically wrong.  Or for an official to make a bad call on a bang bang play.  I mean, what'd they do before instant replay?   I'd say we get fairer games now than we ever have.

     I'd be more worried about fixing or cheating at the college level.  Not the NFL.   Do people actually think Manning or Brady could be paid off to throw a game?  Brady's got so much money he's giving up money so they can sign better players.  So does Manning.  It sure as hell isn't about the money anymore for these guys.   Even the officials make a decent salary to the point where I would think none of them would risk their careers or the integrity of the game to get mixed up in the bs. 

      Then, even if there was a corrupt official or two, it still wouldn't gurantee you anything on any given game.  The games that turn into blows, the officials can't do a thing about it.  And you never know for sure which game will be the blow out.  I'm just getting tired of the argument. 

      NO WAY IS IT FIXED.  It's just not feasible no matter how many ways you look at it.   Too many variables involved, even if they wanted to try to fix a game.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2007 - 11:44 PM ET #40

    you are right about the players making the money, but there may be some rogue refs like the NBA. There are a lot of refs in the NFL and many of them are bad, do the math.
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    you are right about the players making the money, but there may be some rogue refs like the NBA. There are a lot of refs in the NFL and many of them are bad, do the math.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2007 - 11:45 PM ET #41

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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2007 - 12:41 AM ET #43

    Just because a team wins that you didn't expect to win, it doesn't mean the game was fixed
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2007 - 1:26 AM ET #44

    no bling it's not the expectations, just like in the Colts game there was things that you don't see very often, and a pass interfernece call that totally should have been called and wasn't, and then now there is evidence that Vinateri actually made this kick, it went over the upright, it should have been good, there was an official that claimed that, anyway I don't like the Colts, I bet the Chargers on the +3.5 line, just looked very suspicious. And last week many of the road teams won and covered, other than the Pats dogs have been doing well which is good for me but bad for the public. 2 years ago the Public won big, in 2005, as the chalk was winning, so the bookies let the public win for awhile then they really clean up the next 2 years, I guess it's just the big master plan. In 2001 dogs killed, 2002 was about mixed, 2003, mixed, 2004 dogs were ok but then there were some streaks for the faves, 2005 faves killed the books, 2006 and 2007 dogs have killed the public. The books will let the public win some money. In BK over the long season they will make good money, so in Football it looks like they will tank a year every once in awhile.
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    no bling it's not the expectations, just like in the Colts game there was things that you don't see very often, and a pass interfernece call that totally should have been called and wasn't, and then now there is evidence that Vinateri actually made this kick, it went over the upright, it should have been good, there was an official that claimed that, anyway I don't like the Colts, I bet the Chargers on the +3.5 line, just looked very suspicious. And last week many of the road teams won and covered, other than the Pats dogs have been doing well which is good for me but bad for the public. 2 years ago the Public won big, in 2005, as the chalk was winning, so the bookies let the public win for awhile then they really clean up the next 2 years, I guess it's just the big master plan. In 2001 dogs killed, 2002 was about mixed, 2003, mixed, 2004 dogs were ok but then there were some streaks for the faves, 2005 faves killed the books, 2006 and 2007 dogs have killed the public. The books will let the public win some money. In BK over the long season they will make good money, so in Football it looks like they will tank a year every once in awhile.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2007 - 2:02 AM ET #45

    Do not know whether or not the NFL is fixed but the refs were definitely on the take for some of those games...oh BTW, please don't tell me those refs just made bad calls because they are human.  Refs control the game with their yellow hankies.  They can support change the outcome of a game by throwing flag on crucial plays.  If the plays went the way they wanted it to, then they just picked up the flags with a no foul or made up some BS calls and declined the penalties


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    Do not know whether or not the NFL is fixed but the refs were definitely on the take for some of those games...oh BTW, please don't tell me those refs just made bad calls because they are human.  Refs control the game with their yellow hankies.  They can support change the outcome of a game by throwing flag on crucial plays.  If the plays went the way they wanted it to, then they just picked up the flags with a no foul or made up some BS calls and declined the penalties


     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2007 - 2:06 AM ET #46

    exactly. ever wonder why these assholes call a holding , the run just happens to be a TD run, then on the replay, the "hold" is on the opposite side of the field, has nothing to do with the running play, doesn't look like a hold, or is more common to every play type of "hold".
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    exactly. ever wonder why these assholes call a holding , the run just happens to be a TD run, then on the replay, the "hold" is on the opposite side of the field, has nothing to do with the running play, doesn't look like a hold, or is more common to every play type of "hold".
     
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    exactly. ever wonder why these assholes call a holding , the run just happens to be a TD run, then on the replay, the "hold" is on the opposite side of the field, has nothing to do with the running play, doesn't look like a hold, or is more common to every play type of "hold".
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    exactly. ever wonder why these assholes call a holding , the run just happens to be a TD run, then on the replay, the "hold" is on the opposite side of the field, has nothing to do with the running play, doesn't look like a hold, or is more common to every play type of "hold".
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2007 - 2:34 AM ET #48

     will Buckeyes beat the Wolverines?
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    yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant:

    Thought number one:
     
    You're a moron.

    If you don't believe in games fixing, you're either a newbie or a complete naive idiot. 

    Reminds me what happened why some Italian soccer leagues got demoted or their points deducted a year ago?

    Reminds me again why this NBA ref Donaghy got caught sometime 4 months ago?

    I cannot tell if IND/SD game was fixed but I cannot totally rule it out either.  The only thing I know is by calling someone moron on this topic is completely stupid and naive.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant:

    Thought number one:
     
    You're a moron.

    If you don't believe in games fixing, you're either a newbie or a complete naive idiot. 

    Reminds me what happened why some Italian soccer leagues got demoted or their points deducted a year ago?

    Reminds me again why this NBA ref Donaghy got caught sometime 4 months ago?

    I cannot tell if IND/SD game was fixed but I cannot totally rule it out either.  The only thing I know is by calling someone moron on this topic is completely stupid and naive.  

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