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    Is Lamar Jackson the hardest athlete ever to prepare for?

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    RXistrash
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2024 - 10:36 PM ET #1

    1 career loss to the nfc backs that up. Amazing that it was to Daniel jones.  That was one flukey game too.  

    But is he the most difficult of all time to game plan for? He embarrassed belichek many times. 

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    1 career loss to the nfc backs that up. Amazing that it was to Daniel jones.  That was one flukey game too.  

    But is he the most difficult of all time to game plan for? He embarrassed belichek many times. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2024 - 10:39 PM ET #2

    We know he makes you hard.

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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2024 - 10:42 PM ET #3

    It angers a lot of people because of how good this man is at quarterback. 

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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2024 - 10:43 PM ET #4

    Arnold Palmer an_clap

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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2024 - 10:45 PM ET #5

    Mahomesan_wink

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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2024 - 10:49 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by RXistrash:

    It angers a lot of people because of how good this man is at quarterback.

    Let me know when he wins something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RXistrash:

    It angers a lot of people because of how good this man is at quarterback.

    Let me know when he wins something.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2024 - 10:51 PM ET #7

    MVP.....LJ8 or Henry?

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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2024 - 10:52 PM ET #8

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     Let me know when you win something 

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     Let me know when you win something 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2024 - 11:02 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Rayfr:

    @smellybunty  Let me know when you win something

    Everyday cuck

    Everyday

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    @smellybunty  Let me know when you win something

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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2024 - 11:09 PM ET #10

    No........it's Messi

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     Go back to the circus 

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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2024 - 11:55 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by carloscipper:

    No........it's Messi

     

    Simeone had answers. 

     

    Andy Reid/Spag the only coaches in the world with some answers for Lamar. And I attribute that to Reid knowing how to contain Vick and passing that info to Spag. But as we know, Lamar is 5x a better pocket passer than Vick ever was. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by carloscipper:

    No........it's Messi

     

    Simeone had answers. 

     

    Andy Reid/Spag the only coaches in the world with some answers for Lamar. And I attribute that to Reid knowing how to contain Vick and passing that info to Spag. But as we know, Lamar is 5x a better pocket passer than Vick ever was. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2024 - 12:02 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by smellybunty:

    Quote Originally Posted by RXistrash: It angers a lot of people because of how good this man is at quarterback. Let me know when he wins something.

    Heisman trophy

    2nd the next year.

    NFL MVP  2 times

    # 3 Coming up...

    He is so much better this year...an_wink

    1-5 vs Mahomes his only bad number...sad

    If healthy they will win the rematch....an_shake

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    Quote Originally Posted by smellybunty:

    Quote Originally Posted by RXistrash: It angers a lot of people because of how good this man is at quarterback. Let me know when he wins something.

    Heisman trophy

    2nd the next year.

    NFL MVP  2 times

    # 3 Coming up...

    He is so much better this year...an_wink

    1-5 vs Mahomes his only bad number...sad

    If healthy they will win the rematch....an_shake

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2024 - 1:29 PM ET #14

    Word in the locker room is he is softreallyhappy

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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2024 - 1:35 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    Word in the locker room is he is soft

     

     DMX ....an_wink

    Where the Hood at....

    That's him.....Their leader...peace_5

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    Word in the locker room is he is soft

     

     DMX ....an_wink

    Where the Hood at....

    That's him.....Their leader...peace_5

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2024 - 2:16 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:

    Quote Originally Posted by smellybunty: Quote Originally Posted by RXistrash: It angers a lot of people because of how good this man is at quarterback. Let me know when he wins something. Heisman trophy 2nd the next year. NFL MVP  2 times # 3 Coming up... He is so much better this year... 1-5 vs Mahomes his only bad number... If healthy they will win the rematch....

     

    Hell get over the hump once or twice like Peyton did with Brady. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:

    Quote Originally Posted by smellybunty: Quote Originally Posted by RXistrash: It angers a lot of people because of how good this man is at quarterback. Let me know when he wins something. Heisman trophy 2nd the next year. NFL MVP  2 times # 3 Coming up... He is so much better this year... 1-5 vs Mahomes his only bad number... If healthy they will win the rematch....

     

    Hell get over the hump once or twice like Peyton did with Brady. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2024 - 6:05 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:

    Quote Originally Posted by smellybunty: Quote Originally Posted by RXistrash: It angers a lot of people because of how good this man is at quarterback. Let me know when he wins something. Heisman trophy 2nd the next year. NFL MVP  2 times # 3 Coming up... He is so much better this year... 1-5 vs Mahomes his only bad number... If healthy they will win the rematch....

     

    and I believe the only game he won was by 1 point.  He will beat KC in the playoffs this year. Thats why they had to lose the opening week to keep that perception alive when it matters most. If KC even make it to the Super Bowl this year I’ll never watch football again. Thats how confident I am that they won’t get there. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by smellybunty: Quote Originally Posted by RXistrash: It angers a lot of people because of how good this man is at quarterback. Let me know when he wins something. Heisman trophy 2nd the next year. NFL MVP  2 times # 3 Coming up... He is so much better this year... 1-5 vs Mahomes his only bad number... If healthy they will win the rematch....

     

    and I believe the only game he won was by 1 point.  He will beat KC in the playoffs this year. Thats why they had to lose the opening week to keep that perception alive when it matters most. If KC even make it to the Super Bowl this year I’ll never watch football again. Thats how confident I am that they won’t get there. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2024 - 6:30 PM ET #18

    Well in the NFL  please let me know when he has Reggie White, Tom Brady, Jerry Rice, Troy Aikman, Jim Brown etc skills. As of now in todays NFL he is good but not Mahomes good. In regards to other sports Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlin, Wayne the Great, Sandy Koufax, Willie Mays, Bob Gibson, Pedro Martinez, Ali, Tyson, and I could go on and on. These were premier players. Lamar is just not there although he may end up being an all time great or not. Only time will tell. Oh and Randell threw for 29,979 yards. Lamar is over 12,000 yards behind. A good conversation to revisit 5-10 years from now.

    Good thread.

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    Well in the NFL  please let me know when he has Reggie White, Tom Brady, Jerry Rice, Troy Aikman, Jim Brown etc skills. As of now in todays NFL he is good but not Mahomes good. In regards to other sports Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlin, Wayne the Great, Sandy Koufax, Willie Mays, Bob Gibson, Pedro Martinez, Ali, Tyson, and I could go on and on. These were premier players. Lamar is just not there although he may end up being an all time great or not. Only time will tell. Oh and Randell threw for 29,979 yards. Lamar is over 12,000 yards behind. A good conversation to revisit 5-10 years from now.

    Good thread.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2024 - 6:32 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by NONEED4LUCK:

    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84: Quote Originally Posted by smellybunty: Quote Originally Posted by RXistrash: It angers a lot of people because of how good this man is at quarterback. Let me know when he wins something. Heisman trophy 2nd the next year. NFL MVP  2 times # 3 Coming up... He is so much better this year... 1-5 vs Mahomes his only bad number... If healthy they will win the rematch....   Hell get over the hump once or twice like Peyton did with Brady.

     

    Exactly and people act like Peyton Manning didn’t have the same playoff record to start his career.  Lamar has a better playoff record actually at this point. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigred84: Quote Originally Posted by smellybunty: Quote Originally Posted by RXistrash: It angers a lot of people because of how good this man is at quarterback. Let me know when he wins something. Heisman trophy 2nd the next year. NFL MVP  2 times # 3 Coming up... He is so much better this year... 1-5 vs Mahomes his only bad number... If healthy they will win the rematch....   Hell get over the hump once or twice like Peyton did with Brady.

     

    Exactly and people act like Peyton Manning didn’t have the same playoff record to start his career.  Lamar has a better playoff record actually at this point. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by RXistrash:

    1 career loss to the nfc backs that up. Amazing that it was to Daniel jones.  That was one flukey game too.   But is he the most difficult of all time to game plan for? He embarrassed belichek many times.

    If he's so hard to plan for how come he hasn't been anywhere near a super bowl win?

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    1 career loss to the nfc backs that up. Amazing that it was to Daniel jones.  That was one flukey game too.   But is he the most difficult of all time to game plan for? He embarrassed belichek many times.

    If he's so hard to plan for how come he hasn't been anywhere near a super bowl win?

     
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    "Lamar has a better playoff record actually at this point."

    They both went 2-4 in their first six playoff starts. 

    Self-reliance is more important than artificial intelligence.
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    "Lamar has a better playoff record actually at this point."

    They both went 2-4 in their first six playoff starts. 

     
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    He's Mr. October... When the brights are the lightest he fades away... Without question the top qbs of this era are no where near what they were even in the 80's, 90's or 2000's. Other than Mahomes, who's "elite"? Josh Allen. (until the playoffs start and he has to make accurate passes). No more Brady, Manning, Brees, Big Ben, Rodgers (in his prime), Favre, and many others. The position has been downgraded. It's anyones guess as to why. The sport has changed to a more running, evasive style qb, so it's now a rb/qb position - just like Lamar. To date, other than Mahomes who only runs when he has to, he has no designed runs during regular season, if he sees an opening he has the option to take it but not a called play.

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    He's Mr. October... When the brights are the lightest he fades away... Without question the top qbs of this era are no where near what they were even in the 80's, 90's or 2000's. Other than Mahomes, who's "elite"? Josh Allen. (until the playoffs start and he has to make accurate passes). No more Brady, Manning, Brees, Big Ben, Rodgers (in his prime), Favre, and many others. The position has been downgraded. It's anyones guess as to why. The sport has changed to a more running, evasive style qb, so it's now a rb/qb position - just like Lamar. To date, other than Mahomes who only runs when he has to, he has no designed runs during regular season, if he sees an opening he has the option to take it but not a called play.

     
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     Most of what you said....you pose a good argument.  But this young man is about to reach his prime. Peace Out

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     Most of what you said....you pose a good argument.  But this young man is about to reach his prime. Peace Out

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2024 - 7:12 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues:

    Quote Originally Posted by RXistrash: 1 career loss to the nfc backs that up. Amazing that it was to Daniel jones.  That was one flukey game too.   But is he the most difficult of all time to game plan for? He embarrassed belichek many times. If he's so hard to plan for how come he hasn't been anywhere near a super bowl win?

    Ever heard of Mahomes...confused

    Might go down as one of the best ever....an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues:

    Quote Originally Posted by RXistrash: 1 career loss to the nfc backs that up. Amazing that it was to Daniel jones.  That was one flukey game too.   But is he the most difficult of all time to game plan for? He embarrassed belichek many times. If he's so hard to plan for how come he hasn't been anywhere near a super bowl win?

    Ever heard of Mahomes...confused

    Might go down as one of the best ever....an_light

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2024 - 7:22 PM ET #25

    Lamar is trash! Ask the Raiders what they did to prepare for him! Lol bigsmile

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    Lamar is trash! Ask the Raiders what they did to prepare for him! Lol bigsmile

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