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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 7:19 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by bearinvegas:

    Let's go Pack has issues. You brought up the fact they only give up 19 a game. When you cap a game, you have to dive a little deeper.

    You probably think the Pack's D is better than the 85 Bears. Such a homer!

     

    Why??

    You said GB couldnt stop anybody.  I simply stated at home they allow 19 ppg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearinvegas:

    Let's go Pack has issues. You brought up the fact they only give up 19 a game. When you cap a game, you have to dive a little deeper.

    You probably think the Pack's D is better than the 85 Bears. Such a homer!

     

    Why??

    You said GB couldnt stop anybody.  I simply stated at home they allow 19 ppg.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 8:36 AM ET #27

    Packers will win big.  No team can score with them and some of the points they give up come late in games because they are up by so much.  The line is not big enough, the GMen will look like all of the other teams the Pack beat.
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    Packers will win big.  No team can score with them and some of the points they give up come late in games because they are up by so much.  The line is not big enough, the GMen will look like all of the other teams the Pack beat.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 9:11 AM ET #28

    letsgopack

    who cares! this is a different time of year! That stat means nothing right now. This will be a tight game throughout and pack will fight for everything they get.
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    letsgopack

    who cares! this is a different time of year! That stat means nothing right now. This will be a tight game throughout and pack will fight for everything they get.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 9:14 AM ET #29

    MTBAKER

    how many guys were out on the giants or not totally healthy? Now they have a dline with all 4 that can rush the passer and thats not including canty and bernard who were active yesterday and tollefson. Pats offense was pretty dynamic and the giants tamed them in the super bowl. Its 1 game now not a whole season and this is all that matters!
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    MTBAKER

    how many guys were out on the giants or not totally healthy? Now they have a dline with all 4 that can rush the passer and thats not including canty and bernard who were active yesterday and tollefson. Pats offense was pretty dynamic and the giants tamed them in the super bowl. Its 1 game now not a whole season and this is all that matters!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 9:14 AM ET #30

    GO G-MENNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

    I WILL TAKE THE 9 POINTS ALL DAY LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

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    GO G-MENNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

    I WILL TAKE THE 9 POINTS ALL DAY LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 9:52 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:

    The Giants will win SU....................


    Thank you. The Packers it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:

    The Giants will win SU....................


    Thank you. The Packers it is.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 1:03 PM ET #32

    Not an easy game to cap. This is a Giants team playing with a lot of confidence, who have been down this road before. Leaning GB, because they are the better team. But, it wouldn't surprise me to see giants win outright. Just like when Arizona went into Carolina and won outright as a 9 point dog. Huge upset that surprised many.
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    Not an easy game to cap. This is a Giants team playing with a lot of confidence, who have been down this road before. Leaning GB, because they are the better team. But, it wouldn't surprise me to see giants win outright. Just like when Arizona went into Carolina and won outright as a 9 point dog. Huge upset that surprised many.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 1:14 PM ET #33

    Didnt the NYG have 2 secondary players hurt yesterday?

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    Didnt the NYG have 2 secondary players hurt yesterday?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 1:18 PM ET #34

    PACK , healthy team back, most turnovers, and well prepared team, Pack wanted home field for a reason....-9, jump on it while you can!
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    PACK , healthy team back, most turnovers, and well prepared team, Pack wanted home field for a reason....-9, jump on it while you can!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 1:52 PM ET #35

    The way to beat the Packers is to rattle Rodgers.. The Giants can do that without blitzing.

    The value in my opinion is on the Giants.

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    The way to beat the Packers is to rattle Rodgers.. The Giants can do that without blitzing.

    The value in my opinion is on the Giants.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 2:01 PM ET #36

    Rodgers has quick release---you'll be seeing alot of that this game--ball will be gone once it hits his hands, and Starks back in,,, he'll have more yards than Turner!
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    Rodgers has quick release---you'll be seeing alot of that this game--ball will be gone once it hits his hands, and Starks back in,,, he'll have more yards than Turner!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 2:19 PM ET #37

    Packers O-Line They're going to have their hands full with the that beast D-Line healthy. Great value in the Giants ML in a game where I think the Giants will control the clock with their all of a sudden found run game and Eli playing the best he ever has.
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    Packers O-Line They're going to have their hands full with the that beast D-Line healthy. Great value in the Giants ML in a game where I think the Giants will control the clock with their all of a sudden found run game and Eli playing the best he ever has.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 2:47 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    GB scores 38 ppg at home and allows 19
           

    38 +19=57  GIANTS BACKERS MUST THE OVER AT 52.5
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    GB scores 38 ppg at home and allows 19
           

    38 +19=57  GIANTS BACKERS MUST THE OVER AT 52.5
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 6:00 PM ET #39

    At this point I think the Giants will somehow pull off the upset and win straight up, or the Packers will win and cover. This game IMO is very similar to the Pats-Giants Super Bowl, although of course the Pack have a huge home field advantage which the Pats didn't. What the Giants do have is a great D-line, a QB that without question  has the ability to pull off this type of upset and a now balanced offensive attack. They will put up points against GB no doubt..I think the game will be won or lost in Giants D-line vs. Green Bay O-line. If Rodgers gets rid of the ball quickly and the Giants can't get sustained pressure, the Giants secondary will get exposed and it could be a long day. If the reverse happens though, I think the Giants have a chance to pull off the shocker.

    Anyways those are just my thoughts.
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    At this point I think the Giants will somehow pull off the upset and win straight up, or the Packers will win and cover. This game IMO is very similar to the Pats-Giants Super Bowl, although of course the Pack have a huge home field advantage which the Pats didn't. What the Giants do have is a great D-line, a QB that without question  has the ability to pull off this type of upset and a now balanced offensive attack. They will put up points against GB no doubt..I think the game will be won or lost in Giants D-line vs. Green Bay O-line. If Rodgers gets rid of the ball quickly and the Giants can't get sustained pressure, the Giants secondary will get exposed and it could be a long day. If the reverse happens though, I think the Giants have a chance to pull off the shocker.

    Anyways those are just my thoughts.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 6:25 PM ET #40

    The line is a joke 9??? Come on. dont be fooled take the Gmen. The squares will be all over GB
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    The line is a joke 9??? Come on. dont be fooled take the Gmen. The squares will be all over GB
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 6:26 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamMunny:

    The line is a joke 9??? Come on. dont be fooled take the Gmen. The squares will be all over GB

     

    I dont think that is an accurate statement.....betting the favorite doesnt mean you are square.

    Betting the obvious makes you a square, and from every thread on this site, NY seems like the obvious play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamMunny:

    The line is a joke 9??? Come on. dont be fooled take the Gmen. The squares will be all over GB

     

    I dont think that is an accurate statement.....betting the favorite doesnt mean you are square.

    Betting the obvious makes you a square, and from every thread on this site, NY seems like the obvious play.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 7:36 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    GB scores 38 ppg at home and allows 19

    meaningless stat -- after Brees the best QB they played was???

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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    GB scores 38 ppg at home and allows 19

    meaningless stat -- after Brees the best QB they played was???

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2012 - 10:04 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by Cappin4tay:

    meaningless stat -- after Brees the best QB they played was???

    5 playoff teams total, including the lions 2x.  Last time I checked he threw for over 5k yards this year.  Packers strength of schedule was pretty damn good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cappin4tay:

    meaningless stat -- after Brees the best QB they played was???

    5 playoff teams total, including the lions 2x.  Last time I checked he threw for over 5k yards this year.  Packers strength of schedule was pretty damn good.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2012 - 4:55 AM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamMunny:

    The line is a joke 9??? Come on. dont be fooled take the Gmen. The squares will be all over GB

    Ummm, 80% are on the giants so far.  All I keep hearing is how 9 is too much.  It won't be enough...
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamMunny:

    The line is a joke 9??? Come on. dont be fooled take the Gmen. The squares will be all over GB

    Ummm, 80% are on the giants so far.  All I keep hearing is how 9 is too much.  It won't be enough...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2012 - 9:03 AM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    GB scores 38 ppg at home and allows 19

    Who cares unless all 8 games where vs Giants.  You guys depend way too much on stats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    GB scores 38 ppg at home and allows 19

    Who cares unless all 8 games where vs Giants.  You guys depend way too much on stats.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2012 - 9:11 AM ET #46

    Eli is a fucking GAMER!  You guys are blind.  Your giving one of the best passing attacks in the game right now 8 points against a horrible secondary.  Sorry guys but Eli will keep these guys in this game and they will have a chance to win it.  Green Bay should take care of business and pull out a victory, but you guys sound kinda dumb going against the momentum of the healthy G-Men getting 8 points in the playoffs. 

    Seriously are you fucking kidding me though!  8 fucking points your giving me more than a td to start.  hahahahah  Giants might even be the better team right now,  laugh all you want.

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    Eli is a fucking GAMER!  You guys are blind.  Your giving one of the best passing attacks in the game right now 8 points against a horrible secondary.  Sorry guys but Eli will keep these guys in this game and they will have a chance to win it.  Green Bay should take care of business and pull out a victory, but you guys sound kinda dumb going against the momentum of the healthy G-Men getting 8 points in the playoffs. 

    Seriously are you fucking kidding me though!  8 fucking points your giving me more than a td to start.  hahahahah  Giants might even be the better team right now,  laugh all you want.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2012 - 10:43 AM ET #47

    First off, I'm a Packer fan so let's just throw that out there. Secondly, I'm not a homer even though I've never bet against GB, but I always tell my gambling friends when to bet against GB (KC and NYG were prime examples). I'm not blind to bad lines when GB is favored by too much.

    In this case, I think it is slightly too low and by the end of the week you will see it down to 7.5 (I doubt Vegas will give up the hook, but we will see).

    Why I like GB:
    1. Healthiest GB has been all year. 21 of their preferred 22 starters will be on the field (Nick Collins being the lone injury - which is a big loss).

    2. GB's O-line will be at full strength with Clifton back (although he is still a bit rusty). On a slower track at Lambeau, I think GB will be able to slow down the pass rush enough to expose the Giants weak secondary (Giants will get a few sacks, but the pressure won't be relentless). To me, this is the Giants only shot at slowing (and beating) GB. With no crowd noise on offense, GB will have no issues making audibles at the line and getting off the ball better. See first game. NYG had a decent rush, but not overwhelming. GB puts up 38. Osi is back, but so is Sitton (GB's best O-lineman) and Clifton. Neither played in the first game. 

    3. GB's secondary - Yes it gives up yards, but it also led the league in INT's by a wide margin. Giants will make some plays, but I think this secondary will too. G

    4. Motivation - Everyone is picking the Giants because of their "momentum". Well, the disrespect card has been a year long thing. Despite being 15-1, the media has been picking at GB's faults a lot and many are picking GB to lose now (Rodgers even admitted he uses the media for motivation) . Throw in the 100% guarantee by JPP and a couple of recent events too (passing of LG TJ Lang's father and Joe Philbin's son - which admittedly may not mean much but then again this is a very tight nit team).

    5. GB is 19-1 at home in their last 20. The lone loss was against Miami in OT last year when GB had 6 starters out (including Matthews and Finley). The odds of the Giants winning straight up are probably slim. Throw in that GB is 7-1 against the spread at home this year (which is the more important stat) and to me the bet favors GB.

    I told my friends before the wild card round that I hoped the Giants would crush Atlanta because the public (and Vegas would overreact). The line probably would have been double digits just a few weeks ago, but the Giants have beat up a few inconsistent teams so it is dropping close to the line back when they first played (which was a game to me that was a clear bet on the Giants). 

    In the NFC championship 4 years ago, I told as many people as I could in GB that the line was way over inflated at 7 points and of course we know what happened. There is no 36 year old QB this time, but a Green Bay QB at 28 playing at the peak of his game. Big difference. 

    One stat to think about favoring the Giants (they are 5-2 ATS as a dog). They are also confident and have a QB playing his best football. I just see GB coming out on fire in this game. A strong hunch on my part, but all is quiet in GB. There is no talk coming from them. I like that. They will be ready.

    I'm going to let this line drop to 7.5 and then lay a nice bet on GB. 

    38-27 GB
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    First off, I'm a Packer fan so let's just throw that out there. Secondly, I'm not a homer even though I've never bet against GB, but I always tell my gambling friends when to bet against GB (KC and NYG were prime examples). I'm not blind to bad lines when GB is favored by too much.

    In this case, I think it is slightly too low and by the end of the week you will see it down to 7.5 (I doubt Vegas will give up the hook, but we will see).

    Why I like GB:
    1. Healthiest GB has been all year. 21 of their preferred 22 starters will be on the field (Nick Collins being the lone injury - which is a big loss).

    2. GB's O-line will be at full strength with Clifton back (although he is still a bit rusty). On a slower track at Lambeau, I think GB will be able to slow down the pass rush enough to expose the Giants weak secondary (Giants will get a few sacks, but the pressure won't be relentless). To me, this is the Giants only shot at slowing (and beating) GB. With no crowd noise on offense, GB will have no issues making audibles at the line and getting off the ball better. See first game. NYG had a decent rush, but not overwhelming. GB puts up 38. Osi is back, but so is Sitton (GB's best O-lineman) and Clifton. Neither played in the first game. 

    3. GB's secondary - Yes it gives up yards, but it also led the league in INT's by a wide margin. Giants will make some plays, but I think this secondary will too. G

    4. Motivation - Everyone is picking the Giants because of their "momentum". Well, the disrespect card has been a year long thing. Despite being 15-1, the media has been picking at GB's faults a lot and many are picking GB to lose now (Rodgers even admitted he uses the media for motivation) . Throw in the 100% guarantee by JPP and a couple of recent events too (passing of LG TJ Lang's father and Joe Philbin's son - which admittedly may not mean much but then again this is a very tight nit team).

    5. GB is 19-1 at home in their last 20. The lone loss was against Miami in OT last year when GB had 6 starters out (including Matthews and Finley). The odds of the Giants winning straight up are probably slim. Throw in that GB is 7-1 against the spread at home this year (which is the more important stat) and to me the bet favors GB.

    I told my friends before the wild card round that I hoped the Giants would crush Atlanta because the public (and Vegas would overreact). The line probably would have been double digits just a few weeks ago, but the Giants have beat up a few inconsistent teams so it is dropping close to the line back when they first played (which was a game to me that was a clear bet on the Giants). 

    In the NFC championship 4 years ago, I told as many people as I could in GB that the line was way over inflated at 7 points and of course we know what happened. There is no 36 year old QB this time, but a Green Bay QB at 28 playing at the peak of his game. Big difference. 

    One stat to think about favoring the Giants (they are 5-2 ATS as a dog). They are also confident and have a QB playing his best football. I just see GB coming out on fire in this game. A strong hunch on my part, but all is quiet in GB. There is no talk coming from them. I like that. They will be ready.

    I'm going to let this line drop to 7.5 and then lay a nice bet on GB. 

    38-27 GB
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrewCrew82:

    First off, I'm a Packer fan so let's just throw that out there. Secondly, I'm not a homer even though I've never bet against GB, but I always tell my gambling friends when to bet against GB (KC and NYG were prime examples). I'm not blind to bad lines when GB is favored by too much.

    In this case, I think it is slightly too low and by the end of the week you will see it down to 7.5 (I doubt Vegas will give up the hook, but we will see).

    Why I like GB:
    1. Healthiest GB has been all year. 21 of their preferred 22 starters will be on the field (Nick Collins being the lone injury - which is a big loss).

    2. GB's O-line will be at full strength with Clifton back (although he is still a bit rusty). On a slower track at Lambeau, I think GB will be able to slow down the pass rush enough to expose the Giants weak secondary (Giants will get a few sacks, but the pressure won't be relentless). To me, this is the Giants only shot at slowing (and beating) GB. With no crowd noise on offense, GB will have no issues making audibles at the line and getting off the ball better. See first game. NYG had a decent rush, but not overwhelming. GB puts up 38. Osi is back, but so is Sitton (GB's best O-lineman) and Clifton. Neither played in the first game. 

    3. GB's secondary - Yes it gives up yards, but it also led the league in INT's by a wide margin. Giants will make some plays, but I think this secondary will too. G

    4. Motivation - Everyone is picking the Giants because of their "momentum". Well, the disrespect card has been a year long thing. Despite being 15-1, the media has been picking at GB's faults a lot and many are picking GB to lose now (Rodgers even admitted he uses the media for motivation) . Throw in the 100% guarantee by JPP and a couple of recent events too (passing of LG TJ Lang's father and Joe Philbin's son - which admittedly may not mean much but then again this is a very tight nit team).

    5. GB is 19-1 at home in their last 20. The lone loss was against Miami in OT last year when GB had 6 starters out (including Matthews and Finley). The odds of the Giants winning straight up are probably slim. Throw in that GB is 7-1 against the spread at home this year (which is the more important stat) and to me the bet favors GB.

    I told my friends before the wild card round that I hoped the Giants would crush Atlanta because the public (and Vegas would overreact). The line probably would have been double digits just a few weeks ago, but the Giants have beat up a few inconsistent teams so it is dropping close to the line back when they first played (which was a game to me that was a clear bet on the Giants). 

    In the NFC championship 4 years ago, I told as many people as I could in GB that the line was way over inflated at 7 points and of course we know what happened. There is no 36 year old QB this time, but a Green Bay QB at 28 playing at the peak of his game. Big difference. 

    One stat to think about favoring the Giants (they are 5-2 ATS as a dog). They are also confident and have a QB playing his best football. I just see GB coming out on fire in this game. A strong hunch on my part, but all is quiet in GB. There is no talk coming from them. I like that. They will be ready.

    I'm going to let this line drop to 7.5 and then lay a nice bet on GB. 

    38-27 GB

    Welcome aboard, BC 82!

    What do you see the big difference between that NFC Championship game and this Saturday's matchup? Eli Manning is pretty capable of going to Lambeau and beat Packs again, he proved it 4 years ago by beating Favre. Thanks!

    And good luck to Packers as well as Brewers this season, will you guys keep Prince Fielder?  

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrewCrew82:

    First off, I'm a Packer fan so let's just throw that out there. Secondly, I'm not a homer even though I've never bet against GB, but I always tell my gambling friends when to bet against GB (KC and NYG were prime examples). I'm not blind to bad lines when GB is favored by too much.

    In this case, I think it is slightly too low and by the end of the week you will see it down to 7.5 (I doubt Vegas will give up the hook, but we will see).

    Why I like GB:
    1. Healthiest GB has been all year. 21 of their preferred 22 starters will be on the field (Nick Collins being the lone injury - which is a big loss).

    2. GB's O-line will be at full strength with Clifton back (although he is still a bit rusty). On a slower track at Lambeau, I think GB will be able to slow down the pass rush enough to expose the Giants weak secondary (Giants will get a few sacks, but the pressure won't be relentless). To me, this is the Giants only shot at slowing (and beating) GB. With no crowd noise on offense, GB will have no issues making audibles at the line and getting off the ball better. See first game. NYG had a decent rush, but not overwhelming. GB puts up 38. Osi is back, but so is Sitton (GB's best O-lineman) and Clifton. Neither played in the first game. 

    3. GB's secondary - Yes it gives up yards, but it also led the league in INT's by a wide margin. Giants will make some plays, but I think this secondary will too. G

    4. Motivation - Everyone is picking the Giants because of their "momentum". Well, the disrespect card has been a year long thing. Despite being 15-1, the media has been picking at GB's faults a lot and many are picking GB to lose now (Rodgers even admitted he uses the media for motivation) . Throw in the 100% guarantee by JPP and a couple of recent events too (passing of LG TJ Lang's father and Joe Philbin's son - which admittedly may not mean much but then again this is a very tight nit team).

    5. GB is 19-1 at home in their last 20. The lone loss was against Miami in OT last year when GB had 6 starters out (including Matthews and Finley). The odds of the Giants winning straight up are probably slim. Throw in that GB is 7-1 against the spread at home this year (which is the more important stat) and to me the bet favors GB.

    I told my friends before the wild card round that I hoped the Giants would crush Atlanta because the public (and Vegas would overreact). The line probably would have been double digits just a few weeks ago, but the Giants have beat up a few inconsistent teams so it is dropping close to the line back when they first played (which was a game to me that was a clear bet on the Giants). 

    In the NFC championship 4 years ago, I told as many people as I could in GB that the line was way over inflated at 7 points and of course we know what happened. There is no 36 year old QB this time, but a Green Bay QB at 28 playing at the peak of his game. Big difference. 

    One stat to think about favoring the Giants (they are 5-2 ATS as a dog). They are also confident and have a QB playing his best football. I just see GB coming out on fire in this game. A strong hunch on my part, but all is quiet in GB. There is no talk coming from them. I like that. They will be ready.

    I'm going to let this line drop to 7.5 and then lay a nice bet on GB. 

    38-27 GB

    Welcome aboard, BC 82!

    What do you see the big difference between that NFC Championship game and this Saturday's matchup? Eli Manning is pretty capable of going to Lambeau and beat Packs again, he proved it 4 years ago by beating Favre. Thanks!

    And good luck to Packers as well as Brewers this season, will you guys keep Prince Fielder?  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbaker:

    The last 3 weeks the Giants have had gift lines and the public has gobbled it up so I really don't think that argument is legitimate here.

    However, this week there are football reasons as to why the Giants are going to have a rough time next week.  They finally play a good team, finally.  Not the fiddly-toes Matt Ryan and "zero confidence in his defense" Mike Smith, not Mark Blowchez and a "individual stat padding team" and not the wimpy Cowboys and a gunshy "Garrett."

    They go up against the Pack.  While the Pack are 1st, I'm not hearing a lot of love for the Pack.  I'm hearing all the love in the world for the Saints and for the Giants and how it's gonna be like 2007 all over again.

    The Packers are taking this personally.  The Giants have no secondary to contain Rodgers and he's good at getting the ball out early to avoid the pass rush and he's played the Giants once already so he'll be more prepared.

    On D everyone is dumping on the Packers.  They will be out to prove something and while they give up a lot of yards, they get timely turnovers.  The Giants can't expose the Pack main weakness in run D IMO (they had trouble running in the first 2.5 quarters when the Falcons D hadn't given up).  I think Eli will be in a scoring race with Rodgers and Woodson or Tramon will make some key turnovers similar to the Lions-Saints game to cover the spread.

    A 9-point spread to Rodgers is like a 6 point spread to other teams.  Also the Pack were -6 in NY, and now they're -9 not -12.  Sounds like value.

    These are some early thoughts without thinking too much about the game.

    That is the most ridiculous statement I have ever read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbaker:

    The last 3 weeks the Giants have had gift lines and the public has gobbled it up so I really don't think that argument is legitimate here.

    However, this week there are football reasons as to why the Giants are going to have a rough time next week.  They finally play a good team, finally.  Not the fiddly-toes Matt Ryan and "zero confidence in his defense" Mike Smith, not Mark Blowchez and a "individual stat padding team" and not the wimpy Cowboys and a gunshy "Garrett."

    They go up against the Pack.  While the Pack are 1st, I'm not hearing a lot of love for the Pack.  I'm hearing all the love in the world for the Saints and for the Giants and how it's gonna be like 2007 all over again.

    The Packers are taking this personally.  The Giants have no secondary to contain Rodgers and he's good at getting the ball out early to avoid the pass rush and he's played the Giants once already so he'll be more prepared.

    On D everyone is dumping on the Packers.  They will be out to prove something and while they give up a lot of yards, they get timely turnovers.  The Giants can't expose the Pack main weakness in run D IMO (they had trouble running in the first 2.5 quarters when the Falcons D hadn't given up).  I think Eli will be in a scoring race with Rodgers and Woodson or Tramon will make some key turnovers similar to the Lions-Saints game to cover the spread.

    A 9-point spread to Rodgers is like a 6 point spread to other teams.  Also the Pack were -6 in NY, and now they're -9 not -12.  Sounds like value.

    These are some early thoughts without thinking too much about the game.

    That is the most ridiculous statement I have ever read.

     
     
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