Giants +9 against GB

I really think this line is too big. Giants play well on the road. They also played GB tough in a 3 pt loss this season.

Packers D can't stop anyone. Giants are peaking at the right time. This will be my biggest bet this weekend.

Giants +9 and if I had any balls I would bet the ML.

GB scores 38 ppg at home and allows 19

Giants

I agree

Bet on NY is a bad bet - when it seems like a gift it isn't

Take away the Minnesota and St Louis games, two of the worst teams in the league and they gave up 161 pts in 6 games. They gave up 21 to a Bears team whose QB wasn't on a roster at the beginning of the season. Their D will let them down against a very good Giants team.

The Giants will win SU....................

Now I am playing the ML. Just needed Primetime on my side.

Do you also take away the last game of the year when the 2ns team played???

Funny, you take away 2 games in which they gave up 10 points total.

As for the Bears game, you do realize they gave up 11 points in the final few minutes when they were up 28 points???

Well, if you take away the 2 highest scoring game of the Giants they score less a game.

Why take away games??

Tampa Bay had 1 more win than Minn.  So you count tampa cause they scored more???

Im confused with how you justify which games to pick??

Crazy the love for the Giants after beating the Jets, Cowboys and Atlanta all AT HOME

Gmen are a different team healthy....I think this game will be very close and they will have a chance to win it. They are hitting on all cylinders right now.

Fanboy do you ever comment about another team or do you only wager on the pack and subsequently rattle off stats to back your pre-determined pick?

The last 3 weeks the Giants have had gift lines and the public has gobbled it up so I really don't think that argument is legitimate here.

However, this week there are football reasons as to why the Giants are going to have a rough time next week.  They finally play a good team, finally.  Not the fiddly-toes Matt Ryan and "zero confidence in his defense" Mike Smith, not Mark Blowchez and a "individual stat padding team" and not the wimpy Cowboys and a gunshy "Garrett."

They go up against the Pack.  While the Pack are 1st, I'm not hearing a lot of love for the Pack.  I'm hearing all the love in the world for the Saints and for the Giants and how it's gonna be like 2007 all over again.

The Packers are taking this personally.  The Giants have no secondary to contain Rodgers and he's good at getting the ball out early to avoid the pass rush and he's played the Giants once already so he'll be more prepared.

On D everyone is dumping on the Packers.  They will be out to prove something and while they give up a lot of yards, they get timely turnovers.  The Giants can't expose the Pack main weakness in run D IMO (they had trouble running in the first 2.5 quarters when the Falcons D hadn't given up).  I think Eli will be in a scoring race with Rodgers and Woodson or Tramon will make some key turnovers similar to the Lions-Saints game to cover the spread.

A 9-point spread to Rodgers is like a 6 point spread to other teams.  Also the Pack were -6 in NY, and now they're -9 not -12.  Sounds like value.

These are some early thoughts without thinking too much about the game.

I try to only give insight on teams I know well.  Isnt that what this site is for??

Should I start threads about teams I am not a fan of

I have a pretty good lean on the BCS game tomorrow night, that doesnt involve the Pack.  Take a look

No they won't

Northern Illinois is still a bit of a homer pick

 

Who does NIU play...Bama or LSU

My bad. I dont see any value tomorrow though.

I dont think you can go wrong with NFL dogs next week

I agree Bear....Giants have turned it on....I'm seeing a huge let down here for the Cheesers

Let's go Pack has issues. You brought up the fact they only give up 19 a game. When you cap a game, you have to dive a little deeper.

You probably think the Pack's D is better than the 85 Bears. Such a homer!

The Pack D has issues.  Why? Who knows, but they're a thousand times worse than last year's.  The offense is amazing of course, but I think they're still missing Greg Jennings. And NYG has a terrific pass rush. 

i doubt it, looks like all hands on deck for the packers. eli won't out score rodgers. giants 'might' cover.

I hope you guys know that linebackers Bishop and Hawk and linemen Bulaga and Clifton were out of that game where the Packers won by 3 earlier year against the Giants.

I had the Giants +6 that day and they needed a backdoor to cover at home.  Now they go on the road

I implore you to reconsider.  What happened the last time the Giants needed a win in Lambeau?

45-17 

Rodgers will have had 2 weeks to prepare.  Giants will get smoked.

All 4 home teams won and covered pretty easily.  Now everyone likes the road team?

It is kind of scary to bet against the giants right now. The theory being tossed around is that they are healthy now and "clicking on all cylinders", "peaking" now.

I don't know.

The giants have been in every game this year except the two against the redskins and they were not blown out there. Yet until today THEY have not showed any real dominance. So to figure out this game I would think you have to go into the theory and see if it makes sense. Who was hurt that is now playing? What are the defensive trends? Was there some type of change that explains how they held DAL and ATL to 14? total offensive points the last 8 quarters?

I would need some solid evidence before backing the giants. Not saying the evidence is there but I don't see it yet. Greenbay has been downright dominant. Its like they have been toying with teams at times. Its scary to think they have not been in a must win game all year. And when they have been in key games, games that threaten their rep, the defense has played at a high level. They went into det and shut that offense down on thanksgiving day on what is supposed to be detroits rebirth year. The fact is GB has the players on defense, the have the ability and I think the giants top out at 20 points which is not enough to cover. Maybe they average 17.

Right now I think the line should be 13 to be right. I just don't think its a given that the giants can put up the points to keep up. If GB is held to just 30 that will be an accomplishment for the giants D, and 30 or 31 is going to cover 9.5 a majority of the time.