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    GAME FIXING - PEOPLE - A SINCERE DIGRESSION

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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2014 - 2:28 PM ET #1

    This is a ranting message to anyone that thinks games are fixed...

    I'm not sure whether these people actually believe games are fixed or they are just bitter that they can't pick any winners. First of all,
    virtually all of this "fixed game" nonsense is posted by people that are claiming the game they just bet was fixed. They then move on to their next bet... Try to follow that logic.

    Some people who believe games are fixed continue to bet games. Why? Some people continue to bet because they have a problem, for which those people I feel bad for. Some continue betting using paradoxical logic for which I will never understand and simply complain when they lose, these are the most childish and annoying. I've even heard people saying that they know games are fixed but continue to bet because they think they can pick the correct "fixed" side, that is just arrogance.

    People that believe this are a joke... Go ahead and keep betting "fixed games" if you wish. Just don't cry that games are fixed when you lose, because in reality you are just terrible handicappers. 

     The fact is, they're just degenerate gamblers that needs to bet regardless of what they think they know. If you're getting that emotional to claim games are fixed, you clearly don't have the money to be betting. 

    I'm all for adding insight and perspective but crying "fix" is amateurish... Let the adults bet for now and come back when you can handle what you're getting into. 

    I would seriously recommend picking games without actually betting them and see how you do. You may find it more enjoyable or just come to the realization that you are not good at this. 

    There are lots of things I can't do, like skateboard, draw pictures, speak other languages, or match clothes very well. But I'm aware of that, so I don't do those things. Maybe betting sports is something that you can't do. You're good at complaining, so you have that going for you.

    For all of you claiming that games are fixed, I sincerely hope you take this advice and I wish you good luck in your soul searching experience. 

    For me, I must get back to doing grown up things.

    Sincerely,
    GordoPockets
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    This is a ranting message to anyone that thinks games are fixed...

    I'm not sure whether these people actually believe games are fixed or they are just bitter that they can't pick any winners. First of all,
    virtually all of this "fixed game" nonsense is posted by people that are claiming the game they just bet was fixed. They then move on to their next bet... Try to follow that logic.

    Some people who believe games are fixed continue to bet games. Why? Some people continue to bet because they have a problem, for which those people I feel bad for. Some continue betting using paradoxical logic for which I will never understand and simply complain when they lose, these are the most childish and annoying. I've even heard people saying that they know games are fixed but continue to bet because they think they can pick the correct "fixed" side, that is just arrogance.

    People that believe this are a joke... Go ahead and keep betting "fixed games" if you wish. Just don't cry that games are fixed when you lose, because in reality you are just terrible handicappers. 

     The fact is, they're just degenerate gamblers that needs to bet regardless of what they think they know. If you're getting that emotional to claim games are fixed, you clearly don't have the money to be betting. 

    I'm all for adding insight and perspective but crying "fix" is amateurish... Let the adults bet for now and come back when you can handle what you're getting into. 

    I would seriously recommend picking games without actually betting them and see how you do. You may find it more enjoyable or just come to the realization that you are not good at this. 

    There are lots of things I can't do, like skateboard, draw pictures, speak other languages, or match clothes very well. But I'm aware of that, so I don't do those things. Maybe betting sports is something that you can't do. You're good at complaining, so you have that going for you.

    For all of you claiming that games are fixed, I sincerely hope you take this advice and I wish you good luck in your soul searching experience. 

    For me, I must get back to doing grown up things.

    Sincerely,
    GordoPockets
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2014 - 8:10 PM ET #5

    Lol
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2014 - 11:11 PM ET #6

    Can't think of many sports that haven't been fixed.

    baseball scandal with the black sox's. Boxing, yeah, never anything shady there. Horse racing, never ever happened. NBA , Boston college basketball.  Soccer, . You say its not fixed, prove to me its on the straight and narrow.  So what you're saying is every game thats ever been played in the NFL has never been rigged or manipulated .  
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    Can't think of many sports that haven't been fixed.

    baseball scandal with the black sox's. Boxing, yeah, never anything shady there. Horse racing, never ever happened. NBA , Boston college basketball.  Soccer, . You say its not fixed, prove to me its on the straight and narrow.  So what you're saying is every game thats ever been played in the NFL has never been rigged or manipulated .  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2014 - 1:08 AM ET #7

    Hey Gordo, prime example of a fixed game tonight was San Diego St and Navy. Points at a premium State up by 2 with the line being 3/3.5. Nine minutes left State at Navy's 12 yard line and its 4th and 5 and they go for. Yeah. Serves them right for losing outright. A 37 yard FG misses for San Diego with less than 20 seconds left and the coach smiles. Yeah, nothing strange there
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    Hey Gordo, prime example of a fixed game tonight was San Diego St and Navy. Points at a premium State up by 2 with the line being 3/3.5. Nine minutes left State at Navy's 12 yard line and its 4th and 5 and they go for. Yeah. Serves them right for losing outright. A 37 yard FG misses for San Diego with less than 20 seconds left and the coach smiles. Yeah, nothing strange there
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by able:

    Hey Gordo, prime example of a fixed game tonight was San Diego St and Navy. Points at a premium State up by 2 with the line being 3/3.5. Nine minutes left State at Navy's 12 yard line and its 4th and 5 and they go for. Yeah. Serves them right for losing outright. A 37 yard FG misses for San Diego with less than 20 seconds left and the coach smiles. Yeah, nothing strange there


    Amen.. fixed.. college..
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    Quote Originally Posted by able:

    Hey Gordo, prime example of a fixed game tonight was San Diego St and Navy. Points at a premium State up by 2 with the line being 3/3.5. Nine minutes left State at Navy's 12 yard line and its 4th and 5 and they go for. Yeah. Serves them right for losing outright. A 37 yard FG misses for San Diego with less than 20 seconds left and the coach smiles. Yeah, nothing strange there


    Amen.. fixed.. college..
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2014 - 1:16 AM ET #9

    Anyone remembered San Diego at Pittsburgh years back. When Polamalu scooped a fumble for a TD in the last seconds and it didn't count..
    that was for the cover.. he didn't get touched or anything and the ball stayed dead at the spot.. and even Norv Turner was furious and practically force the refs to say it didn't count. He had $$ on the cover too.. why would the coach complain so much when the game is practically done...

    Explain this.. anyone who saw this game..
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    Anyone remembered San Diego at Pittsburgh years back. When Polamalu scooped a fumble for a TD in the last seconds and it didn't count..
    that was for the cover.. he didn't get touched or anything and the ball stayed dead at the spot.. and even Norv Turner was furious and practically force the refs to say it didn't count. He had $$ on the cover too.. why would the coach complain so much when the game is practically done...

    Explain this.. anyone who saw this game..
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2014 - 2:06 AM ET #10

    Yeah newmarket, best part was when the camera was on Ben, he seemed pissed that his team was scoring a TD then when he realized the camera was on him he was all smiles.
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    Yeah newmarket, best part was when the camera was on Ben, he seemed pissed that his team was scoring a TD then when he realized the camera was on him he was all smiles.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2014 - 6:11 AM ET #11

    Gordo, I have a used car Id like to sell you, 14000 original miles 1997 Acura Legend, interested in buying it for 35K?
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    Gordo, I have a used car Id like to sell you, 14000 original miles 1997 Acura Legend, interested in buying it for 35K?
     
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    And you missed one of the groups of people who still continue to bet knowing games are fixed, and we are called the ones who think like the book.

    Not that you or someone like you will ever comprehend this as you are cleary an in the box thinker but I will never apologize to what i consider an idiot who thinks its all on the up and up, people like you are called sheep.
    the other night the books clearly gave you a fixed game with the lakers playing OKC
    OKC is an 8 point favorite who was up by 2 at the half
    everyone who understands point spreads knows that the 2nd half line should have been OKC -4.5 IN THE LEAST usually 5 or 5,5 the books set it at -3
    All the Idiots who do not believe in the fix pounded OKC
    they all lost as OKC wins by 1
    the Philly line -7 opened at 8.5 
    dropped dropped without one bet on Washington and WASH wins the game outright.

    Please Gordo, sound crazy some place else
    Were all stocked up here.
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    And you missed one of the groups of people who still continue to bet knowing games are fixed, and we are called the ones who think like the book.

    Not that you or someone like you will ever comprehend this as you are cleary an in the box thinker but I will never apologize to what i consider an idiot who thinks its all on the up and up, people like you are called sheep.
    the other night the books clearly gave you a fixed game with the lakers playing OKC
    OKC is an 8 point favorite who was up by 2 at the half
    everyone who understands point spreads knows that the 2nd half line should have been OKC -4.5 IN THE LEAST usually 5 or 5,5 the books set it at -3
    All the Idiots who do not believe in the fix pounded OKC
    they all lost as OKC wins by 1
    the Philly line -7 opened at 8.5 
    dropped dropped without one bet on Washington and WASH wins the game outright.

    Please Gordo, sound crazy some place else
    Were all stocked up here.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2014 - 6:47 AM ET #13

    shhhhh man.... We don't want all the squares to learn are secret... they'll put Vegas outta business and we wont be able to keep on profiting
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    shhhhh man.... We don't want all the squares to learn are secret... they'll put Vegas outta business and we wont be able to keep on profiting
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2014 - 6:48 AM ET #14

    OUR secret***

    Covers needs like a 2-minute edit window or something.
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    OUR secret***

    Covers needs like a 2-minute edit window or something.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2014 - 6:58 AM ET #15

    My bad Fuzzrod, LOL You know they are gonna ignore everything I said anyway, so secret is still safe.
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    My bad Fuzzrod, LOL You know they are gonna ignore everything I said anyway, so secret is still safe.
     
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    hahaha yeah no doubt. Someone taught me how it was all rigged a couple years ago and since I started incorporating that into my capping it's made a world of difference.

    People who handicap games based on which team has "the most talent" are going to be heartbroken with their wagering endeavors.

    It's obvious to intelligent people like you and I, and it makes me wanna scream it off a mountain top... But it's better I don't... If the secret goes mainstream, I can't profit from the squares.

    Hahaha
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    hahaha yeah no doubt. Someone taught me how it was all rigged a couple years ago and since I started incorporating that into my capping it's made a world of difference.

    People who handicap games based on which team has "the most talent" are going to be heartbroken with their wagering endeavors.

    It's obvious to intelligent people like you and I, and it makes me wanna scream it off a mountain top... But it's better I don't... If the secret goes mainstream, I can't profit from the squares.

    Hahaha
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2014 - 8:12 AM ET #17

    Like someone said, It's a helluva scam...

    Just be happy that you're going to make money from knowing that
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    Like someone said, It's a helluva scam...

    Just be happy that you're going to make money from knowing that
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzrod:

    hahaha yeah no doubt. Someone taught me how it was all rigged a couple years ago and since I started incorporating that into my capping it's made a world of difference.

    People who handicap games based on which team has "the most talent" are going to be heartbroken with their wagering endeavors.

    It's obvious to intelligent people like you and I, and it makes me wanna scream it off a mountain top... But it's better I don't... If the secret goes mainstream, I can't profit from the squares.

    Hahaha


    So says the expert with 4.5 black stars..............................
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzrod:

    hahaha yeah no doubt. Someone taught me how it was all rigged a couple years ago and since I started incorporating that into my capping it's made a world of difference.

    People who handicap games based on which team has "the most talent" are going to be heartbroken with their wagering endeavors.

    It's obvious to intelligent people like you and I, and it makes me wanna scream it off a mountain top... But it's better I don't... If the secret goes mainstream, I can't profit from the squares.

    Hahaha


    So says the expert with 4.5 black stars..............................
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2014 - 9:52 AM ET #19

    i usually only do the contest picks on a drunken whim... Doesn't mean a thing brother
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    i usually only do the contest picks on a drunken whim... Doesn't mean a thing brother
     
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    The majority of the picks came when I was a losing better, betting on which team I thought "had the most talent" Hahahahah

    I'm sure glad I snapped outta that phase.
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    The majority of the picks came when I was a losing better, betting on which team I thought "had the most talent" Hahahahah

    I'm sure glad I snapped outta that phase.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2014 - 11:57 AM ET #21

    Ahh, one of my favorite subjects.  For those of you haters who want an early Xmas present, here you are, unload on this:

    In the olden days I was as square as a cube.  Six-sided square.  I put my hard-earned money to work in the gambling industry, on the action side of the tables.  My first time playing blackjack I was such a novice I didn't know I could split Aces.  Needless to say, I quickly lost my hard-earned money.  But I knew that some games could be beat and others couldn't.  So I learned basic strategy and when I was accomplished at that, learned at least a dozen card-counting schemes, finally settling on one that was easy but powerful.  I also learned to play poker and, for poker, learned how to identify the suckers.

    All the while I dabbled in sports betting.  Mostly football and then basketball, when the seasons changed, or overlapped.  What I knew about playing at the tables was, 'know where you gain your advantage and bet accordingly.'  It took me a while to learn that with sports.  To be honest, I'm still learning it with sports.

    But the old adage is still true: If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.  You all know what I'm talking about - that line that just begs you to bet it.  And it is always the wrong side.  But why is it the wrong side?

    In my opinion, yes, absolutely, some games are fixed.  But not all games and not all games you think are fixed are fixed. 

    The oddsmakers are very good at what they do.  They hang lines they know the squares will devour.  Monday night's game between Denver and Cincinnati is an excellent example (for the record I was on Cincy, points and moneyline). I won't go into why I think that line was for the squares, it is only important to me that I was on the right side.  But, in my opinion, that game was not "fixed."

    My brother, and I love him dearly, has the nickname "Action."  He will bet on anything.  And he loves the square lines.  I have tried to educate him on why a line is square, but then he quotes back to me all the crap he hears on ESPN and all the stats that he has heard and has swimming around in his head.  Then he loses his money betting on "the best team."

    Sports betting, especially professional sports, has more to do with the enticement and inducement of squares, where the real money is, than it has to do with the "fix being in."  BUT, one or two "bad" calls by the refs will swing the momentum and the game to the other side.  This stuff happens.  It does not happen all the time, but when it does, you can bet that the momentum swing takes the money out of the square's pockets and deposits it in the book's accounts.

    Professional sports, especially, are more entertainment than they are sporting contests.  Most people tune in to be entertained for a few hours.  Those of us who put our hard earned money on one side or the other prefer to see a sporting contest break out.  But, you can bet, when the oddsmakers need a game to be "delivered" it will be.

    Happy Solstice and Merry Christmas to all.  Haters, have at it...

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    Ahh, one of my favorite subjects.  For those of you haters who want an early Xmas present, here you are, unload on this:

    In the olden days I was as square as a cube.  Six-sided square.  I put my hard-earned money to work in the gambling industry, on the action side of the tables.  My first time playing blackjack I was such a novice I didn't know I could split Aces.  Needless to say, I quickly lost my hard-earned money.  But I knew that some games could be beat and others couldn't.  So I learned basic strategy and when I was accomplished at that, learned at least a dozen card-counting schemes, finally settling on one that was easy but powerful.  I also learned to play poker and, for poker, learned how to identify the suckers.

    All the while I dabbled in sports betting.  Mostly football and then basketball, when the seasons changed, or overlapped.  What I knew about playing at the tables was, 'know where you gain your advantage and bet accordingly.'  It took me a while to learn that with sports.  To be honest, I'm still learning it with sports.

    But the old adage is still true: If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.  You all know what I'm talking about - that line that just begs you to bet it.  And it is always the wrong side.  But why is it the wrong side?

    In my opinion, yes, absolutely, some games are fixed.  But not all games and not all games you think are fixed are fixed. 

    The oddsmakers are very good at what they do.  They hang lines they know the squares will devour.  Monday night's game between Denver and Cincinnati is an excellent example (for the record I was on Cincy, points and moneyline). I won't go into why I think that line was for the squares, it is only important to me that I was on the right side.  But, in my opinion, that game was not "fixed."

    My brother, and I love him dearly, has the nickname "Action."  He will bet on anything.  And he loves the square lines.  I have tried to educate him on why a line is square, but then he quotes back to me all the crap he hears on ESPN and all the stats that he has heard and has swimming around in his head.  Then he loses his money betting on "the best team."

    Sports betting, especially professional sports, has more to do with the enticement and inducement of squares, where the real money is, than it has to do with the "fix being in."  BUT, one or two "bad" calls by the refs will swing the momentum and the game to the other side.  This stuff happens.  It does not happen all the time, but when it does, you can bet that the momentum swing takes the money out of the square's pockets and deposits it in the book's accounts.

    Professional sports, especially, are more entertainment than they are sporting contests.  Most people tune in to be entertained for a few hours.  Those of us who put our hard earned money on one side or the other prefer to see a sporting contest break out.  But, you can bet, when the oddsmakers need a game to be "delivered" it will be.

    Happy Solstice and Merry Christmas to all.  Haters, have at it...

     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2014 - 12:31 PM ET #22

    Great post Rico, and it will fall on SHEEP EARS.
    Cant fix stupid and that is what anyone who thinks all these games are on the up and up is.
    So merry Christmas to all of you smart bettors and merry christmas to all you sheep.
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    Great post Rico, and it will fall on SHEEP EARS.
    Cant fix stupid and that is what anyone who thinks all these games are on the up and up is.
    So merry Christmas to all of you smart bettors and merry christmas to all you sheep.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2014 - 3:07 PM ET #23

    great post gordo. so many idiots on here
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    great post gordo. so many idiots on here
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2014 - 3:54 PM ET #24

    This argument reminds me of the back in the day when a small group of people claimed online poker was rigged in the sense there were people cheating.  Through multi accounting and super users.  They were laughed at for years and pegged as bad players who were just complaining.  Funny when the truth finally became uncovered for all to see.  

    It's pretty simple, whenever a lot of money is involved, don't think for a second the man isn't making damn sure he is getting his.  
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    This argument reminds me of the back in the day when a small group of people claimed online poker was rigged in the sense there were people cheating.  Through multi accounting and super users.  They were laughed at for years and pegged as bad players who were just complaining.  Funny when the truth finally became uncovered for all to see.  

    It's pretty simple, whenever a lot of money is involved, don't think for a second the man isn't making damn sure he is getting his.  
     
     
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