I said I would lay off on Chargers games, due to inherent bias, so tread lightly.
The market will point to Houston’s lopsided win in the previous meeting, but that result overstates the current gap between these teams. Even with Rashawn Slater and Joe Alt active in that game, Justin Herbert was operating with a materially weaker skill-position group than he has now, which I believe is a key variable that meaningfully shifts the projection for this matchup.
This is not a fade of Houston’s defense. By both traditional metrics and advanced models, the Texans still profile as the best defense in the NFL. Both teams allow the lowest passer rating in the league, and DVOA supports the idea that Houston suppresses opponent efficiency at an elite level. As a result, this game projects as a compressed, low-variance game, which is precisely the type where EPA trends and situational DVOA splits become more predictive than raw yardage or headline stats.
Viewed through that lens, the matchup subtly favors Los Angeles, imo.
From an offensive standpoint, the Chargers’ recent EPA per play has trended upward, particularly on early downs, while their offensive DVOA has stabilized into league-average or better territory after early-season volatility. That improvement aligns directly with personnel changes. Keenan Allen’s return raises success rate and 3d down DVOA, Quentin Johnston’s improved hands reduce negative EPA plays, Tre Harris provides vertical stress, and Oronde Gadsden Jr. gives Herbert a reliable middle-of-the-field option, which is something this offense has lacked since Hunter Henry left after Herbert’s rookie season.
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I said I would lay off on Chargers games, due to inherent bias, so tread lightly.
The market will point to Houston’s lopsided win in the previous meeting, but that result overstates the current gap between these teams. Even with Rashawn Slater and Joe Alt active in that game, Justin Herbert was operating with a materially weaker skill-position group than he has now, which I believe is a key variable that meaningfully shifts the projection for this matchup.
This is not a fade of Houston’s defense. By both traditional metrics and advanced models, the Texans still profile as the best defense in the NFL. Both teams allow the lowest passer rating in the league, and DVOA supports the idea that Houston suppresses opponent efficiency at an elite level. As a result, this game projects as a compressed, low-variance game, which is precisely the type where EPA trends and situational DVOA splits become more predictive than raw yardage or headline stats.
Viewed through that lens, the matchup subtly favors Los Angeles, imo.
From an offensive standpoint, the Chargers’ recent EPA per play has trended upward, particularly on early downs, while their offensive DVOA has stabilized into league-average or better territory after early-season volatility. That improvement aligns directly with personnel changes. Keenan Allen’s return raises success rate and 3d down DVOA, Quentin Johnston’s improved hands reduce negative EPA plays, Tre Harris provides vertical stress, and Oronde Gadsden Jr. gives Herbert a reliable middle-of-the-field option, which is something this offense has lacked since Hunter Henry left after Herbert’s rookie season.
Houston’s defensive DVOA remains elite, but its greatest strength is limiting explosive plays. Los Angeles is no longer dependent on explosiveness to generate offense. Instead, the Chargers are producing positive EPA through drive sustainability, which aligns well with DVOA’s success-based framework. That matters in a game where long fields and red-zone execution decide outcomes.
The run game reinforces that profile. The Chargers’ offensive DVOA improves meaningfully when using heavy and jumbo personnel, a trend that coincides with Trevor Penning’s role as a pseudo tight end and extra blocker. With Hampton and Vidal providing balance and Omarion beginning to regain his groove, Los Angeles has improved its run success rate, a key driver of both EPA and DVOA. Staying ahead of the chains reduces variance and keeps Herbert in favorable down-and-distance situations.
Herbert himself adds another layer. He ranks second among NFL quarterbacks in rushing yards, and that escapability directly boosts both EPA and DVOA by turning broken pass plays into positive outcomes. From a defensive perspective, Houston must now account for scramble value, which strains rush-lane discipline and lowers defensive efficiency even when coverage holds.
Defensively, the Chargers’ metrics also point upward. Jesse Minter’s Oweh–Tuli–Mack package has increased pressure rate without a corresponding spike in explosive plays allowed: a combination that improves defensive EPA while keeping defensive DVOA competitive. The addition of Donte Jackson has stabilized the secondary, allowing Los Angeles to be more aggressive structurally without sacrificing success rate.
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Houston’s defensive DVOA remains elite, but its greatest strength is limiting explosive plays. Los Angeles is no longer dependent on explosiveness to generate offense. Instead, the Chargers are producing positive EPA through drive sustainability, which aligns well with DVOA’s success-based framework. That matters in a game where long fields and red-zone execution decide outcomes.
The run game reinforces that profile. The Chargers’ offensive DVOA improves meaningfully when using heavy and jumbo personnel, a trend that coincides with Trevor Penning’s role as a pseudo tight end and extra blocker. With Hampton and Vidal providing balance and Omarion beginning to regain his groove, Los Angeles has improved its run success rate, a key driver of both EPA and DVOA. Staying ahead of the chains reduces variance and keeps Herbert in favorable down-and-distance situations.
Herbert himself adds another layer. He ranks second among NFL quarterbacks in rushing yards, and that escapability directly boosts both EPA and DVOA by turning broken pass plays into positive outcomes. From a defensive perspective, Houston must now account for scramble value, which strains rush-lane discipline and lowers defensive efficiency even when coverage holds.
Defensively, the Chargers’ metrics also point upward. Jesse Minter’s Oweh–Tuli–Mack package has increased pressure rate without a corresponding spike in explosive plays allowed: a combination that improves defensive EPA while keeping defensive DVOA competitive. The addition of Donte Jackson has stabilized the secondary, allowing Los Angeles to be more aggressive structurally without sacrificing success rate.
Houston’s offense, meanwhile, faces a measurable efficiency concern. Trent Brown is already ruled out, further weakening an offensive line that has graded inconsistently in protection metrics. Offensive line instability tends to show up quickly in both EPA and DVOA through sacks, penalties, and failed early-down plays--especially against defenses capable of generating pressure without heavy blitzing.
The Chargers are well equipped to capitalize on that type of inefficiency. They’ve grown accustomed to playing behind suboptimal offensive line conditions themselves, which has forced schematic adaptation rather than reliance on protection. Expect Los Angeles to continue leaning into what has worked — jumbo packages, condensed formations, extra blockers, and quicker timing concepts--an approach that stabilizes offensive DVOA while limiting negative EPA swings.
Greg Roman’s adjustments since the Philadelphia game are particularly relevant here. Emphasizing quicker releases, defined reads, and rhythm throws has coincided with improved offensive efficiency and a winning streak. This is the type of schematic correction that DVOA captures better than box-score production.
Taken together, this projects as a one-score game where explosiveness is muted/neutralized and efficiency determines the outcome. Houston’s defense remains elite by DVOA, but the Chargers bring a more stable EPA profile, better situational DVOA trends, and a quarterback who adds value outside structure.
Both teams are still playing for "something." The Texans still need to clinch a playoff spot. The Chargers are playing for the division win and possibly the 1st overall seed, if everything falls into place.
As such, I'm playing the following:
Chargers ML -120 (LARGE) Justin Herbert o23.5 rushing yards -125
Herbert has been averaging 30.7 rushing yards a game and 5.12 rushing attempts per game. He's going to need to use his feet to extend drives against the stout Texans defense. I do expect the Texans to account for Herbert exploiting the A & B gaps though. Ryans has said as much. But I don't think that's enough to stop Herbert from taking his bites.
I'm not great at taking totals but I'm also on the under 40.5. I expect plenty of field goals here.
Chargers-Texans u40.5 -110
GL. And if you tail, just know what you're getting into here. I would love to hear the perspective from a Texans fan.
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Houston’s offense, meanwhile, faces a measurable efficiency concern. Trent Brown is already ruled out, further weakening an offensive line that has graded inconsistently in protection metrics. Offensive line instability tends to show up quickly in both EPA and DVOA through sacks, penalties, and failed early-down plays--especially against defenses capable of generating pressure without heavy blitzing.
The Chargers are well equipped to capitalize on that type of inefficiency. They’ve grown accustomed to playing behind suboptimal offensive line conditions themselves, which has forced schematic adaptation rather than reliance on protection. Expect Los Angeles to continue leaning into what has worked — jumbo packages, condensed formations, extra blockers, and quicker timing concepts--an approach that stabilizes offensive DVOA while limiting negative EPA swings.
Greg Roman’s adjustments since the Philadelphia game are particularly relevant here. Emphasizing quicker releases, defined reads, and rhythm throws has coincided with improved offensive efficiency and a winning streak. This is the type of schematic correction that DVOA captures better than box-score production.
Taken together, this projects as a one-score game where explosiveness is muted/neutralized and efficiency determines the outcome. Houston’s defense remains elite by DVOA, but the Chargers bring a more stable EPA profile, better situational DVOA trends, and a quarterback who adds value outside structure.
Both teams are still playing for "something." The Texans still need to clinch a playoff spot. The Chargers are playing for the division win and possibly the 1st overall seed, if everything falls into place.
As such, I'm playing the following:
Chargers ML -120 (LARGE) Justin Herbert o23.5 rushing yards -125
Herbert has been averaging 30.7 rushing yards a game and 5.12 rushing attempts per game. He's going to need to use his feet to extend drives against the stout Texans defense. I do expect the Texans to account for Herbert exploiting the A & B gaps though. Ryans has said as much. But I don't think that's enough to stop Herbert from taking his bites.
I'm not great at taking totals but I'm also on the under 40.5. I expect plenty of field goals here.
Chargers-Texans u40.5 -110
GL. And if you tail, just know what you're getting into here. I would love to hear the perspective from a Texans fan.
Yes, recent data (late 2025) suggests C.J. Stroud has shown struggles against zone coverage, with lower completion rates, more interceptions (six) and fewer touchdowns compared to his exceptional performance against man coverage.
Great write-up man. Chargers play a ton of zone
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Yes, recent data (late 2025) suggests C.J. Stroud has shown struggles against zone coverage, with lower completion rates, more interceptions (six) and fewer touchdowns compared to his exceptional performance against man coverage.
Yes, recent data (late 2025) suggests C.J. Stroud has shown struggles against zone coverage, with lower completion rates, more interceptions (six) and fewer touchdowns compared to his exceptional performance against man coverage. Great write-up man. Chargers play a ton of zone
Thank you for adding that, and you are correct about the Chargers D playing mostly in zone coverage. Stroud seems to have regressed this year, but I've attributed most of that to his atrocious O-line. (Something a Charger fan can relate to.)
Even with Trent Brown playing for most of the game, the Texans played poorly against the 2nd worst team in the NFL. Brown got hurt late into the 4th quarter, but now the Texans will have to account for an even weaker offensive line without Brown's presence. Jesse Minter doesn't dial up a lot of blitzes, but I think a 3 man rush can rattle Stroud with the line in front of him. Adding Oweh to create a Nascar package has added a new wrinkle to Minter's D.
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Quote Originally Posted by mchriste619:
Yes, recent data (late 2025) suggests C.J. Stroud has shown struggles against zone coverage, with lower completion rates, more interceptions (six) and fewer touchdowns compared to his exceptional performance against man coverage. Great write-up man. Chargers play a ton of zone
Thank you for adding that, and you are correct about the Chargers D playing mostly in zone coverage. Stroud seems to have regressed this year, but I've attributed most of that to his atrocious O-line. (Something a Charger fan can relate to.)
Even with Trent Brown playing for most of the game, the Texans played poorly against the 2nd worst team in the NFL. Brown got hurt late into the 4th quarter, but now the Texans will have to account for an even weaker offensive line without Brown's presence. Jesse Minter doesn't dial up a lot of blitzes, but I think a 3 man rush can rattle Stroud with the line in front of him. Adding Oweh to create a Nascar package has added a new wrinkle to Minter's D.
Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: You da man Icon Leaning Bolts or a play on total. Thank you, sir. I posted my plays after your reply. Not sure if that helps sway your decision a bit. GL on whatever you do.
Didn't realize but already on U. BOL on LARGE, ya talking more than 3 times regular play?
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Quote Originally Posted by iConsciousness:
Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: You da man Icon Leaning Bolts or a play on total. Thank you, sir. I posted my plays after your reply. Not sure if that helps sway your decision a bit. GL on whatever you do.
Didn't realize but already on U. BOL on LARGE, ya talking more than 3 times regular play?
Quote Originally Posted by iConsciousness: Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: You da man Icon Leaning Bolts or a play on total. Thank you, sir. I posted my plays after your reply. Not sure if that helps sway your decision a bit. GL on whatever you do. Didn't realize but already on U. BOL on LARGE, ya talking more than 3 times regular play?
No, I would say two units (or twice the normal play).
Sometimes I'm addressing all the angles I see playing out prior to the game, and it simply doesn't pan out that way for one reason or the other. With the Chargers, you can add the likeliness of injury to just hamper any kind of gameplan they would've gone into the game with, making any kind of pre game analysis null and void.
Any injury to the Chargers' O-line though probably doesn't change the outcome much. Herbert has already learned to adjust without much time to throw in the pocket. My concern is for the defense. Donte Jackson was questionable for half the week and is now good to go.
I feel good about this bet, and if I weren't a Charger fan, I'd probably bet more. But no need to compound a possible loss with a bigger hit to the wallet, making it doubly painful.
I expect a good home field advantage for the Chargers for this game. I regret that I won't be there at the game, but having the game on Saturday instead of Sunday squashed that plan.
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Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:
Quote Originally Posted by iConsciousness: Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: You da man Icon Leaning Bolts or a play on total. Thank you, sir. I posted my plays after your reply. Not sure if that helps sway your decision a bit. GL on whatever you do. Didn't realize but already on U. BOL on LARGE, ya talking more than 3 times regular play?
No, I would say two units (or twice the normal play).
Sometimes I'm addressing all the angles I see playing out prior to the game, and it simply doesn't pan out that way for one reason or the other. With the Chargers, you can add the likeliness of injury to just hamper any kind of gameplan they would've gone into the game with, making any kind of pre game analysis null and void.
Any injury to the Chargers' O-line though probably doesn't change the outcome much. Herbert has already learned to adjust without much time to throw in the pocket. My concern is for the defense. Donte Jackson was questionable for half the week and is now good to go.
I feel good about this bet, and if I weren't a Charger fan, I'd probably bet more. But no need to compound a possible loss with a bigger hit to the wallet, making it doubly painful.
I expect a good home field advantage for the Chargers for this game. I regret that I won't be there at the game, but having the game on Saturday instead of Sunday squashed that plan.
The line has already moved a half point towards the over in my book. Could be foretelling, but we'll see. This game has all the hallmarks of an under that sometimes you think "it can't be that obvious, can it?" If you truly believe the game goes under then getting it at 41 points is even better.
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The line has already moved a half point towards the over in my book. Could be foretelling, but we'll see. This game has all the hallmarks of an under that sometimes you think "it can't be that obvious, can it?" If you truly believe the game goes under then getting it at 41 points is even better.
My strange angle that I found here is teams that win by 2pts previous games are 2-6-1 ats the next game with 8-1 over/under.
Lac & over for me.
Last time I posted about teams that losing by 2pts previous game are 0-8 ats. Someone call me out for stupid thing, and looked what happened Ind got blown out by Sf to make it 0-9 ats.... Las is on deck next against Nyg tomorrow.
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My strange angle that I found here is teams that win by 2pts previous games are 2-6-1 ats the next game with 8-1 over/under.
Lac & over for me.
Last time I posted about teams that losing by 2pts previous game are 0-8 ats. Someone call me out for stupid thing, and looked what happened Ind got blown out by Sf to make it 0-9 ats.... Las is on deck next against Nyg tomorrow.
Hopefully those who tailed the large play tailed the others.
I still came up, but I mentioned things one simply cannot cap factoring in to an outcome. And that was the case today.
The most accurate kicker in NFL history missing an easy FG and a PAT left 4 points off the board. That alone was weird. Those were easy kicks and I can't recall when he last missed a PAT.
The sure-handed Oronde Gadsden tipping the ball on the 1 yard line and enabling that INT when the Chargers were knocking on the door for 7 points.
A couple of extremely ticky tack calls going against the Chargers, allowing the Texans to extend their drives when they could've gone 3 and our.
But that is the nature of the game, and my hats off to the Texans for gutting out that win. They had key players miss a few series and still pulled it out.
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Chargers ML -120 (LARGE)
Justin Herbert o23.5 rushing yards -125
Chargers-Texans u40.5 -110
Chargers 2H -4
Hopefully those who tailed the large play tailed the others.
I still came up, but I mentioned things one simply cannot cap factoring in to an outcome. And that was the case today.
The most accurate kicker in NFL history missing an easy FG and a PAT left 4 points off the board. That alone was weird. Those were easy kicks and I can't recall when he last missed a PAT.
The sure-handed Oronde Gadsden tipping the ball on the 1 yard line and enabling that INT when the Chargers were knocking on the door for 7 points.
A couple of extremely ticky tack calls going against the Chargers, allowing the Texans to extend their drives when they could've gone 3 and our.
But that is the nature of the game, and my hats off to the Texans for gutting out that win. They had key players miss a few series and still pulled it out.
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