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    Black Quarterbacks trying to be known as Winning Quarterbacks

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    KingScorpio
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2013 - 11:35 PM ET #1

    You always hear that "You can't win with a black quarterback"

    Well, what does the truth say ????

    Through 12 weeks of the NFL season their record stands at 32-36. With 6 favorable matchups this week,they very well can be called winning quarterbacks.Win-loss record is graded as an outright win by a team with a starting black quarterback.Pushes are when two black quarterbacks face each other.

    Week (1) 2-2 with 2 pushes

    Week (2) 1-5 with 1 push

    Week (3) 2-5 with 1 push

    Week (4) 3-3

    Week (5) 2-4

    Week (6) 3-4

    Week (7) 6-1

    Week (8) 4-3

    Week (9) 5-2

    Week (10) 1-3 with 1 push

    Week (11) 2-3 with 1 push

    Week (12) 1-1 with 1 push

    Week (13) chances

    CAR

    NYJ

    BUF

    S.F.

    WSH

    SEA

    I'm not going to play games and try to figure out which quarterback is 100% black here.If the cops would shoot you on the street,then you are black enough to count.

    I'm posting this because many maybe surprised as i was,at how well black quarterbacks are really doing this season.

    There is no 100% cappers in the world
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    You always hear that "You can't win with a black quarterback"

    Well, what does the truth say ????

    Through 12 weeks of the NFL season their record stands at 32-36. With 6 favorable matchups this week,they very well can be called winning quarterbacks.Win-loss record is graded as an outright win by a team with a starting black quarterback.Pushes are when two black quarterbacks face each other.

    Week (1) 2-2 with 2 pushes

    Week (2) 1-5 with 1 push

    Week (3) 2-5 with 1 push

    Week (4) 3-3

    Week (5) 2-4

    Week (6) 3-4

    Week (7) 6-1

    Week (8) 4-3

    Week (9) 5-2

    Week (10) 1-3 with 1 push

    Week (11) 2-3 with 1 push

    Week (12) 1-1 with 1 push

    Week (13) chances

    CAR

    NYJ

    BUF

    S.F.

    WSH

    SEA

    I'm not going to play games and try to figure out which quarterback is 100% black here.If the cops would shoot you on the street,then you are black enough to count.

    I'm posting this because many maybe surprised as i was,at how well black quarterbacks are really doing this season.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2013 - 11:39 PM ET #2

    okay....but would be more curious what this looks like ATS instead of just SU wins...

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    okay....but would be more curious what this looks like ATS instead of just SU wins...

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2013 - 11:40 PM ET #3

    You have too much time on your hands
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 12:03 AM ET #4

    KingScorpio.....What part of the group do you belong to moron...
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 12:12 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by da_Vinc1:

    okay....but would be more curious what this looks like ATS instead of just SU wins...

    ATS

    Week (1) 3-1

    Week (2) 3-2

    Week (3) 3-3-1

    Week (4) 4-2

    Week (5) 4-2

    Week (6) 3-4

    Week (7) 6-1

    Week (8) 4-3

    Week (9) 4-3

    Week (10) 2-2

    Week (11) 3-2

    Week (12) 0-2

    SU 32-35

    ATS 39-27-1 

    There is no 100% cappers in the world
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    Quote Originally Posted by da_Vinc1:

    okay....but would be more curious what this looks like ATS instead of just SU wins...

    ATS

    Week (1) 3-1

    Week (2) 3-2

    Week (3) 3-3-1

    Week (4) 4-2

    Week (5) 4-2

    Week (6) 3-4

    Week (7) 6-1

    Week (8) 4-3

    Week (9) 4-3

    Week (10) 2-2

    Week (11) 3-2

    Week (12) 0-2

    SU 32-35

    ATS 39-27-1 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 12:20 AM ET #6

    scorpio is just a pathetic human being forgive him
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 1:02 AM ET #7

    It is just racist . I don't care white or black QB as long as I make money
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    It is just racist . I don't care white or black QB as long as I make money
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 1:08 AM ET #8

    And they ban people for posting too many winners???
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 1:13 AM ET #9

    And ONLY 1 has won the SB.
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 1:25 AM ET #11

    Jameis Winston...going to be the face of the NFL in 3 yrs...will be the best NFL qb possibly all time
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 1:37 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by saigonbynight:

    It is just racist . I don't care white or black QB as long as I make money


    Nah...not racist, although there is racism in all races. Just work in a multi cultural setting and see what happens no matter what your race is...(by the way) white people suffer from racism too. 

    This particular stating of the facts by the original poster is an attempt to overcome the myth that Blacks cannot play quarterback because it is too much of a cerebral position for them to handle.

    This belief (myth) is still harbored by some people... Doug Williams put that myth to rest in the superbowl for the Redskins against Elway and Denver Broncos many years ago. He had an awesome game on center stage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saigonbynight:

    It is just racist . I don't care white or black QB as long as I make money


    Nah...not racist, although there is racism in all races. Just work in a multi cultural setting and see what happens no matter what your race is...(by the way) white people suffer from racism too. 

    This particular stating of the facts by the original poster is an attempt to overcome the myth that Blacks cannot play quarterback because it is too much of a cerebral position for them to handle.

    This belief (myth) is still harbored by some people... Doug Williams put that myth to rest in the superbowl for the Redskins against Elway and Denver Broncos many years ago. He had an awesome game on center stage.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 1:53 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by CalBear:

    Jameis Winston...going to be the face of the NFL in 3 yrs...will be the best NFL qb possibly all time
    Be tough to beat Jamarcus Russell for that title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CalBear:

    Jameis Winston...going to be the face of the NFL in 3 yrs...will be the best NFL qb possibly all time
    Be tough to beat Jamarcus Russell for that title.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 2:35 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by CalBear:

    Jameis Winston...going to be the face of the NFL in 3 yrs...will be the best NFL qb possibly all time

    Steve McNair 15 years later.......

    As much as I liked McNair personally, at the end of the day, he goes down as just a mediocre NFL quarterback....fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CalBear:

    Jameis Winston...going to be the face of the NFL in 3 yrs...will be the best NFL qb possibly all time

    Steve McNair 15 years later.......

    As much as I liked McNair personally, at the end of the day, he goes down as just a mediocre NFL quarterback....fact.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 3:00 AM ET #16

    Black QB, white QB.... Have you ever see yellow QB? .....
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 3:07 AM ET #17

    Kinda funny this site is always talking about black qbs when most are white are many of them suck. Yet nobody brings up race about them. Hardly any white WR's and RB's, so do whites suck at those positions.
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    Kinda funny this site is always talking about black qbs when most are white are many of them suck. Yet nobody brings up race about them. Hardly any white WR's and RB's, so do whites suck at those positions.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler:

    Kinda funny this site is always talking about black qbs when most are white are many of them suck. Yet nobody brings up race about them. Hardly any white WR's and RB's, so do whites suck at those positions.

    Good point
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler:

    Kinda funny this site is always talking about black qbs when most are white are many of them suck. Yet nobody brings up race about them. Hardly any white WR's and RB's, so do whites suck at those positions.

    Good point
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2013 - 4:15 AM ET #19

    Why do nfl say not enough black coaches, but you dont hear white guy saying theirs not enough white players, or black comedians make white jokes, but minute guys says joke, here comes al sharpton and others trying end their careers, just needs be fair both sides
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    Why do nfl say not enough black coaches, but you dont hear white guy saying theirs not enough white players, or black comedians make white jokes, but minute guys says joke, here comes al sharpton and others trying end their careers, just needs be fair both sides
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2013 - 2:01 PM ET #20

    Updated thru week 13 - Starting Black Quarterbacks

    35-38 Straight up

    42-30-1 ATS

    Week 14 chances

    WSH

    CLV

    NYJ

    CAR

    BUF

     

    There is no 100% cappers in the world
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    Updated thru week 13 - Starting Black Quarterbacks

    35-38 Straight up

    42-30-1 ATS

    Week 14 chances

    WSH

    CLV

    NYJ

    CAR

    BUF

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2013 - 2:06 PM ET #21

    My money is on Car, and WSH this week so 'black is beautiful' for me.
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    My money is on Car, and WSH this week so 'black is beautiful' for me.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2013 - 5:30 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrstreaks:

    Why do nfl say not enough black coaches, but you dont hear white guy saying theirs not enough white players, or black comedians make white jokes, but minute guys says joke, here comes al sharpton and others trying end their careers, just needs be fair both sides

    Different,but fair point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrstreaks:

    Why do nfl say not enough black coaches, but you dont hear white guy saying theirs not enough white players, or black comedians make white jokes, but minute guys says joke, here comes al sharpton and others trying end their careers, just needs be fair both sides

    Different,but fair point.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2013 - 9:11 PM ET #24

    As a white guy I can admit that white people are not as athletic.  But you are not allowed to say that black qbs are not as smart as white quarterbacks.  Don't bother giving out stats on how good they are doing during the regular season.  There are more and more black qbs in the nfl now and still no superbowl rings other than way back when doug williams.  Obviously I would take kap or wilson over matt shaub or christian ponder but if i have to select a qb that has to make the big throws on the biggest stages they are all the pure pocket passers.  Manning, brees, big ben, eli  rodgers, etc.  Betting is betting and making money is making money no matter what the race.  But don't sit there and say that there isn't some truth to it.
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    As a white guy I can admit that white people are not as athletic.  But you are not allowed to say that black qbs are not as smart as white quarterbacks.  Don't bother giving out stats on how good they are doing during the regular season.  There are more and more black qbs in the nfl now and still no superbowl rings other than way back when doug williams.  Obviously I would take kap or wilson over matt shaub or christian ponder but if i have to select a qb that has to make the big throws on the biggest stages they are all the pure pocket passers.  Manning, brees, big ben, eli  rodgers, etc.  Betting is betting and making money is making money no matter what the race.  But don't sit there and say that there isn't some truth to it.
     
     
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